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B_Jim,That is a very interesting point about the inflammation/alleric theory. I had noted that. Are there any specific details regarding this inflammation theory? For example, what hormones/chemicals are affected?
Quote from: Ambient123 on 03/03/2009 15:52:50B_Jim,That is a very interesting point about the inflammation/alleric theory. I had noted that. Are there any specific details regarding this inflammation theory? For example, what hormones/chemicals are affected?Ambient---I am strongly leaning to Waldinger's auto-allergic cause of POIS for me. At the moment, I am looking at Histamines as a possible trigger for my POIS. As far as I can see, they are very involved in orgasm/ejaculation, and for me all my other issues of anxiety/panic and allergies seem to have very similar symptoms as POIS. I am trying to figure out how to suppress the histamines. Perhaps we POIS sufferers just produce too much histamine at orgasm, and there is a cascade of allergic type symptoms that we call POIS. And maybe it just takes "time" to leave the system. There is also a precursor to histamine, but I can't recall it right now.
Ambient---I am strongly leaning to Waldinger's auto-allergic cause of POIS for me. At the moment, I am looking at Histamines as a possible trigger for my POIS. As far as I can see, they are very involved in orgasm/ejaculation, and for me all my other issues of anxiety/panic and allergies seem to have very similar symptoms as POIS. I am trying to figure out how to suppress the histamines. Perhaps we POIS sufferers just produce too much histamine at orgasm, and there is a cascade of allergic type symptoms that we call POIS. And maybe it just takes "time" to leave the system. There is also a precursor to histamine, but I can't recall it right now.
Demografx, i have looked at the NY times article you provided in great detail.Much thanks to you An interesting point the article brought up was that SSRI's were successful in alleviating Post Orgasm depression in their patients.But hasn't the SSRI theory already been dismissed as being largely ineffective?
Do you think testosterone alone, without Levitra, can cure pois ?
Quote from: underwater on 04/03/2009 00:32:03Ambient---I am strongly leaning to Waldinger's auto-allergic cause of POIS for me. At the moment, I am looking at Histamines as a possible trigger for my POIS. As far as I can see, they are very involved in orgasm/ejaculation, and for me all my other issues of anxiety/panic and allergies seem to have very similar symptoms as POIS. I am trying to figure out how to suppress the histamines. Perhaps we POIS sufferers just produce too much histamine at orgasm, and there is a cascade of allergic type symptoms that we call POIS. And maybe it just takes "time" to leave the system. There is also a precursor to histamine, but I can't recall it right now.Underwater, perhaps you'll be interested to search for the following keywords: histadelia, histapenia. Maybe pois is attacking where we're weak and that's why you have similar symptoms, but it's interesting, I'll read more on allergies.
Short update:I am going to see a top endocrinologist next week. Who has extensive knowledge about adrenals, thyroid, testosteron and all. I am much inspired by the successes on this forum, so thank you all for sharing! For the last year and a half I had been seeing 3 Chinese doctors who blamed it on the kidney yin, qi and yang, their herbs did help but nowhere near curing. Before that, Western docs easily blamed my mind.
does anyone know how to get histamine tests?
Anyone who wants to test, read the excellent manuals by Girlwind and Michael8028 elsewhere on this forum. They have recommendations what to test and where to test without prescription.
POIS and SSRI's----------I have no experience with SSRI's and POIS, but I do have experience with Valium and POIS. Valium helped considerably for the 3 months I took it. POIS was very tolerable.But now, Valium is toxic to me. Very strange, but true.
Quote from: rock27 on 04/03/2009 18:02:52Anyone who wants to test, read the excellent manuals by Girlwind and Michael8028 elsewhere on this forum. They have recommendations what to test and where to test without prescription.I'd like to add my endocrinologist's warning that "saliva testing is very inaccurate". My endo prefers blood tests always. However, some specific tests might only be available with saliva or urine. My endo was referring to testosterone, prolactin and the like.
Quote from: Ambient123 on 04/03/2009 11:23:27Demografx, i have looked at the NY times article you provided in great detail.Much thanks to you An interesting point the article brought up was that SSRI's were successful in alleviating Post Orgasm depression in their patients.But hasn't the SSRI theory already been dismissed as being largely ineffective?Not completely. B_Jim, Counterpoints, Martin, Underwater, John21, anyone else: do you agree? I think it has been dismissed by this forum as a POIS cure-all. But just for the depressive symptoms, I still think SSRI's can help. They helped my depression overall somewhat, and it's hard for me to distingush historically between my POIS-depression and non-POIS depression.Either way, the article, written by a psychiatrist, helps in my opinion to establish credibility with medical doctors, including endocrinologists (mine liked it) who want us to "just go see a psychiatrist or psychotherapist, this (POIS) is all in your head"!This article + Waldinger's paper are very useful in my opinion - to show/convince medical personnel to take us seriously!