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Tantalus, I don´t understand well. Do you get better or not with dessensibilization? Do you have a good improve? A cure? Compare how you are now with how you was before the threatment. I'm too curious because I was believing a lot in the dessensibilization...
Hi, FiDALGO Sorry you had to wait, but you see I am bussy here to answer everybody as sincerely possible. Questions are complex /pois is complex. I learnt to mistrust answers given in a few sentences depending pois. Pois is not yes or no. Quote from: fidalgo on 26/06/2012 16:24:20Tantalus, I don´t understand well. Do you get better or not with dessensibilization? Do you have a good improve? A cure? Compare how you are now with how you was before the threatment. I'm too curious because I was believing a lot in the dessensibilization...Depends on the definition of the word 'better'I am Dutch, it would mean here 'totaly cured'In english could mean better as before?I am not cured. Yes, I have less sick days. No I feel not always better as before. ....you frown with your eyebrows? Well here is no click clack answer to this question, Lesser days sick does not mean you feel lesser sick the day that left over to have still pois. I suffer verry much from this 1 or 2 days or 3 days. This is what I ment with that the cure effect is waving. Most time i am sick the 2th day and 3th day. An other time the first day and the 2th. This wave effect makes my social live difficult to plan. Also I suffer in this days 100% pois. The other side of the story is , I had before 5 til 12 days. So benefit is there sure!How we, me you, 'mesure', this benefit is strongly psychological and personal. Also the treatment is every generation patients different. I have been treated very slowly. Now the tendency is to do it much faster. We have to invent the wheel...the patients together with the doctors. Which desensitization frequency, dure and dilution at the time works best for the average! patient, before 'we' can adapt to the exeptions. But DO the treatment it might become even THE cure for you. Benefit you wil have in any case from this treatment I guess in any case minimal 60% Wish you luck!
Quote from: kurtosis on 28/06/2012 20:42:21Looks promising. I'm not sure I'd have any success in getting prescribed Cabergoline but if you can find a doctor who'll prescribe it then let us know how you get on. I've been seeing an open-minded endocrinologist for metabolic syndrome that I developed while taking antipsychotics, he has prescribed me testosterone gel before on speculation it might help my PIOS. He's one of the few docs who has given me the benefit of the doubt. I have a well documented medical history, and it might make him feel secure enough to go with the cabergoline. I will get an appointment soon!
Looks promising. I'm not sure I'd have any success in getting prescribed Cabergoline but if you can find a doctor who'll prescribe it then let us know how you get on.
Quote from: Nightingale on 29/06/2012 17:09:02Quote from: kurtosis on 28/06/2012 20:42:21Looks promising. I'm not sure I'd have any success in getting prescribed Cabergoline but if you can find a doctor who'll prescribe it then let us know how you get on. I've been seeing an open-minded endocrinologist for metabolic syndrome that I developed while taking antipsychotics, he has prescribed me testosterone gel before on speculation it might help my PIOS. He's one of the few docs who has given me the benefit of the doubt. I have a well documented medical history, and it might make him feel secure enough to go with the cabergoline. I will get an appointment soon!cabergoline has the exact opposite effect as antipsychotics. Antipsychotics block dopamine receptors in the brain. IF you gave cabergoline to a bipolar patient, it would cause them to go in the wildest manic phase imaginable. on rare occasions dopamine agonists like cabergoline can cause sex and gambling addictions in otherwise normal and reserved people.
Quote from: Porke on 11/03/2010 17:47:482nd post relating to Parlodel (Bromocriptine)Had a try at it again this weekend. This time it did nothing for me, i felt 'hungover' for atleast 3-4 days this time. My first attempt with this drug was very promising, I def thought I had some results there.. Not quite ready to give up on it completely, I will try it for a few more times and post feedback...I took cabergoline. It has some risks associated with it that bromocriptine doesn't, and if you consider taking it, consult with a physician. I don't think it's a good option for more than say, 4 months. HOWEVER, I think for many people cabergoline is a much better drug for these types of tests than bromocriptine. It has an extremely long half-life. Taking one 0.5 mg tablet of cabergoline is like taking a significant daily dose of bromocriptine for a week. You only need to take 1 pill a week. And generally I think there are fewer side effects.Also, when you experiment with these types of drugs, I don't think you can expect an immediate cure. Sometimes the neurotransmitters need to build up for months, before, for instance, your physiological response to orgasm is significantly altered. For example, someone is not going to cure himself of serious depression by trying a couple SSRI pills now and then. It needs a dedicated trial.So I don't know how valuable it is doing 3 or 4 isolated experiments.
2nd post relating to Parlodel (Bromocriptine)Had a try at it again this weekend. This time it did nothing for me, i felt 'hungover' for atleast 3-4 days this time. My first attempt with this drug was very promising, I def thought I had some results there.. Not quite ready to give up on it completely, I will try it for a few more times and post feedback...
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I've had some success lately by taking Wellbutrin for 2 days on, 2 days off. The initial effects of the drug add some type of stimulant to my body which overrides a lot of my pois. I then take 2 days off to let it clear from my system so I can repeat the 2 good days. I've done this successfully for about 2 weeks now, so way too early to recommend and say for sure. I also haven't discussed this yet with my doctor, who likely won't be very pleased. I'm not recommending anyone try this, but if anyone already has, or has taken wellbutrin on and off, please PM me because I'm curious about it.
Quote from: B_Daniel on 01/07/2012 08:30:34I've had some success lately by taking Wellbutrin for 2 days on, 2 days off. The initial effects of the drug add some type of stimulant to my body which overrides a lot of my pois. I then take 2 days off to let it clear from my system so I can repeat the 2 good days. I've done this successfully for about 2 weeks now, so way too early to recommend and say for sure. I also haven't discussed this yet with my doctor, who likely won't be very pleased. I'm not recommending anyone try this, but if anyone already has, or has taken wellbutrin on and off, please PM me because I'm curious about it.Wellbutrin is sometimes called Bupropion, just in case anybody is wondering what it is and how it works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion
As a new member, I am relieved to know I'm not the only person inflicted by this disorder. I ama 20 year old Irish lad, currently afflicted by POIS, and its disrupting my work life and causing me to avoid masturbation and sex.This started when I was 14, when I masturbated for the first time. I was scared stiff at what was happening at first, and I couldnt sleep for that night. Over the next few weeks, I felt nauseous, unwilling to eat, a strange sensation in my testicles which caused them to harden which freaked me out immensely, and a fever.I was constantly unfocused and unable to sleep.Since then, I masturbate regularly and have occasional sex. Now its happened again and I feel downright awful. This time around though, I'm suffering from constipation, leading to the inability to urinate properly and vomiting, as well as dizzy spells and lack of sleep. I have avoided masturbation and sexual intercourse until the symptoms subside completely because I'm scared it may happen again. I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone, or go to a doctor about it, so I came here seeking guidance and a possible remedy to this problem.Can anyone help me out?
cabergoline has the exact opposite effect as antipsychotics. Antipsychotics block dopamine receptors in the brain. IF you gave cabergoline to a bipolar patient, it would cause them to go in the wildest manic phase imaginable. on rare occasions dopamine agonists like cabergoline can cause sex and gambling addictions in otherwise normal and reserved people.
I decided to give kurtosis' vitamin regimen a try: krill oil, magnesium, and zincResults: short-live but significant improvement!I had a bad attempt at a niacin treatment last night for a planned "O". I have been having trouble getting the full effect even with 4 hours of fasting. Really frustrating. So I went to my local health foods store and got the vitamins/supplements. After 1 hour, I got excited! I was having very poor concentration and I couldn't put together a coherent sentence, but that improved by 80%. I didn't have as many physical problems, but they improved too.This only lasted about 2-3 hours, though. I am almost all the way back to the way I felt this morning before taking the supplements. I took them again just 15 minutes ago, lets see what happens.Exact doses:Brand (for all 3): Nature's Way Krill oil - 1 gram amount of astaxanthin in it - 1.25 mgMagnesium (as citrate/oxide)- 500 mgZinc (as amino acid chelate) - 30 mgKrill oil is sooo expensive...
Quote from: Nightingale on 03/07/2012 22:05:35I decided to give kurtosis' vitamin regimen a try: krill oil, magnesium, and zincResults: short-live but significant improvement!I had a bad attempt at a niacin treatment last night for a planned "O". I have been having trouble getting the full effect even with 4 hours of fasting. Really frustrating. So I went to my local health foods store and got the vitamins/supplements. After 1 hour, I got excited! I was having very poor concentration and I couldn't put together a coherent sentence, but that improved by 80%. I didn't have as many physical problems, but they improved too.This only lasted about 2-3 hours, though. I am almost all the way back to the way I felt this morning before taking the supplements. I took them again just 15 minutes ago, lets see what happens.Exact doses:Brand (for all 3): Nature's Way Krill oil - 1 gram amount of astaxanthin in it - 1.25 mgMagnesium (as citrate/oxide)- 500 mgZinc (as amino acid chelate) - 30 mgKrill oil is sooo expensive...2nd time not nearly so effective, maybe 30%. Still, this is quite interesting. This really helped me feel better in a pinchUPDATE: I went to the store about 1 1/2 hours after my dose. I was looking around for some items and I noticed my ability to pay attention to details had dramatically improved. Almost like something you'd expect an ADHD medication to do. I was able to see each sign located above the products and scan around them much more easily. Otherwise, it was back to feeling "in a fog"