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The Environment / Is there new observational evidence for solar-climate coupling?
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Didnt want to hijack the geomagnetic activity thread.
Yes...there is evidence from instrumental data. No...the sun is not the only determinant factor in regards to the climate system.
As a disclaimer, positive evidence for a solar effect on climate is not negative evidence for the effect of CO2 on climate. These are two separate subjects, and the validity of one is not dependent upon the invalidity of the other (except among ideologues).
yor_on...if you cannot access these through google scholar, please let me know and I will be happy to email the .pdf files to you (or anyone for that matter). I cant openly post copyrighted material without risking trouble. These are all from well respected, peer reviewed journals and are leading authors in the field of solar-climate coupling. None of these authors believes that because the sun has an effect on climate that CO2 does not, however some (not all) of the recent climate changes attributed to CO2 are now being shown to be attributable to solar variability...not because previous authors were dishonest, but because CO2 and solar activity were increasing at the same time...this is the scientific method. To dig deeper, just look up more papers by the lead authors...it will help if you have access to a scientific search engine such as Web of Science...if not, google scholar will do.
Bond, G., B. Kromer, J. Beer et al. (2001), Persistent solar influence on North Atlantic climate during the Holocene, Science, 294, 2130–2136.
Gleisner, H., and P. Thejll, (2003). Patterns of tropospheric response to solar variability. Geophys. Res. Lett., 30, 1711.
Haigh, J. D. (2003), The effects of solar variability on the Earth’s climate, Philos. Trans. R. Soc. A, 361, 95–111.
Haigh, J. D., M. Blackburn, and R. Day (2005), The response of tropospheric circulation to perturbations in lower stratospheric temperature, J. Clim., 18, 3672–3685.
Lockwood, M., C. Bell, T. Woollings, R. G. Harrison, L. J. Gray, J. D. Haigh (2010b), Top down solar modulation of climate: Evidence for centennial scale change, Environ. Res. Lett., 5, 034008.
Poore, R.Z., Quinn, T.M., and Verardo, S., (2004), Century-scale movement of the Atlantic Intertropical Convergence Zone linked to solar variability: Geophysical Research Letters, v. 31, p. L12214.
Roy, I., Haigh, J.D. (2010) Solar cycle signals in sea level pressure and sea surface temperature. Atmos. Chem. Phys. 10, 3147-3153.
van Loon, H., Meehl, G.A., Shea, D.J., (2007). Coupled air-sea response to solar forcing in the Pacific region during northern winter. J. Geophys. Res. 112.
There are literally hundreds of papers on the subject...keep digging.
Yes...there is evidence from instrumental data. No...the sun is not the only determinant factor in regards to the climate system.
As a disclaimer, positive evidence for a solar effect on climate is not negative evidence for the effect of CO2 on climate. These are two separate subjects, and the validity of one is not dependent upon the invalidity of the other (except among ideologues).
yor_on...if you cannot access these through google scholar, please let me know and I will be happy to email the .pdf files to you (or anyone for that matter). I cant openly post copyrighted material without risking trouble. These are all from well respected, peer reviewed journals and are leading authors in the field of solar-climate coupling. None of these authors believes that because the sun has an effect on climate that CO2 does not, however some (not all) of the recent climate changes attributed to CO2 are now being shown to be attributable to solar variability...not because previous authors were dishonest, but because CO2 and solar activity were increasing at the same time...this is the scientific method. To dig deeper, just look up more papers by the lead authors...it will help if you have access to a scientific search engine such as Web of Science...if not, google scholar will do.
Bond, G., B. Kromer, J. Beer et al. (2001), Persistent solar influence on North Atlantic climate during the Holocene, Science, 294, 2130–2136.
Gleisner, H., and P. Thejll, (2003). Patterns of tropospheric response to solar variability. Geophys. Res. Lett., 30, 1711.
Haigh, J. D. (2003), The effects of solar variability on the Earth’s climate, Philos. Trans. R. Soc. A, 361, 95–111.
Haigh, J. D., M. Blackburn, and R. Day (2005), The response of tropospheric circulation to perturbations in lower stratospheric temperature, J. Clim., 18, 3672–3685.
Lockwood, M., C. Bell, T. Woollings, R. G. Harrison, L. J. Gray, J. D. Haigh (2010b), Top down solar modulation of climate: Evidence for centennial scale change, Environ. Res. Lett., 5, 034008.
Poore, R.Z., Quinn, T.M., and Verardo, S., (2004), Century-scale movement of the Atlantic Intertropical Convergence Zone linked to solar variability: Geophysical Research Letters, v. 31, p. L12214.
Roy, I., Haigh, J.D. (2010) Solar cycle signals in sea level pressure and sea surface temperature. Atmos. Chem. Phys. 10, 3147-3153.
van Loon, H., Meehl, G.A., Shea, D.J., (2007). Coupled air-sea response to solar forcing in the Pacific region during northern winter. J. Geophys. Res. 112.
There are literally hundreds of papers on the subject...keep digging.