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Title: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: chris on 23/08/2003 14:46:57
I have finally found that answer to the nature of the grey film around the yolk of a boiled egg...

"[high temperature when cooking an egg] causes a chemical reaction between the yolk and the white that leaves a green film around the yolk. That film is iron sulfide, caused by iron in the yolk reacting with hydrogen sulfide in the white"

So who wants to do the experiment in which a egg is hard boiled using a high temperature versus a cooler temperature ?

Chris


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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: bezoar on 23/08/2003 20:46:25
So that would explain why immersing the eggs in cold water afterwards sometimes avoids the grey film -- it lowers the temperature.  Bravo, Chris.

Bezoar
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Quantumcat on 27/08/2003 09:01:45
Longer with higher temperature = Greyer. Glad that was finally sorted out. Thanks, Chris.

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: chris on 27/08/2003 11:44:33
So did you actually try it Quantum ? And it worked ? Nice one !

Chris

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: bezoar on 27/08/2003 14:53:39
I'll bet some chef somewhere has the formula for perfect hard boiled eggs.  Maybe we should have checked the cookbooks.

Bezoar
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: cuso4 on 27/08/2003 21:39:24
Try one of Delia Smith's cookbooks.

So...cooling rapidly with cold water cause the reactant to lose energy and therefore unable to perform the reaction.

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: bezoar on 28/08/2003 07:07:37
See?  I knew it.

Bezoar
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Pappy on 15/10/2003 21:15:34
Bezoar

Indeed, Julia Child has a recipe for "The perfect Hard Boiled Egg" It works every time! Start the eggs in cold water, when the water just starts to boil turn off the heat and let sit for 17 minutes. The immerse in ice water. The perfect egg has no grey line!!
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: bezoar on 16/10/2003 07:45:56
Julia to the rescue.  I learned to cook on one of her cookbooks.  Obviously, not the one with the hard boiled egg recipe.

Bezoar
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Donnah on 16/10/2003 16:34:18
Bezoar, I bet you're a great cook too.  I'm pathetic in that department, though I make excellent roast beef and yorkshire pudding and, lucky for me, Bruce makes delicious meals.  Maybe we could have a "Science of Cooking" section[:p].
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: bezoar on 16/10/2003 20:04:00
Love to gourmet cook, and spend the day in the kitchen cooking a fabulous meal.  However, in my older years my waistline doesn't like it, so I've gone to healthier cooking.  But you know, living in New Orleans really spoils you for getting used to good food.  Makes it hard to travel cause you can't find a restaurant that even halfway compares to what we have here.
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: chris on 17/10/2003 20:38:30
I thought they had McDonalds and Burger Kings all over the world, not just in New Orleans [;)]

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: bezoar on 18/10/2003 09:56:02
I do recall going to a Mc Donald's in London.  It was one of the best meals I had there.  You guys definitely do not know what good food is.  The second best meal was right around Windsor castle, and it was Shepherd's pie!  Oh no, y'all need to come visit here for good food.
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Donnah on 19/10/2003 03:45:03
Bezoar, I second your opinion of the food in London.  Had the most horrible (and expensive) quiche there, among other hideous dishes, and no one knew what ketchup was!
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: chris on 20/10/2003 01:32:36
The food must have been bad if you wanted to add ketchup to it !

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Ians Daddy on 20/10/2003 04:31:47
I dated a girl from England once. I had dinner with her family and it was quite interesting. I learned that alot of the quisine there is boiled. Of course everything here seams to be fried or grilled, so it wasn't too appealing. However, there was this dessert that was awesome. It was alot like flan.
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: chris on 20/10/2003 15:57:31
That's probably the cheescake then ?

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Ians Daddy on 21/10/2003 00:08:58
Nah, it was like a stiff vanilla pudding. Mmmmmm, it was good. I think it had cinnamon on it as well. It was alot like flan, but a little fluffier.
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: chris on 21/10/2003 00:47:28
Yep, sounds like cheesecake. It's called cheesecake but actually isn't made of your average cheddar ! It uses cream cheese on a biscuit base and you flavour it with lemon or, as you say, vanilla and add chocolate sprinkles, cream and fruit to the top. Delicious.

Chris

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: tweener on 21/10/2003 03:32:13
I haven't traveled to England or New Orleans (Closer to there though, being from Arkansas) so I can't comment much on the food in either place.  

But back to the boiled eggs.  How do you change the temperature while boiling the egg?  I always thought that water boils at a fixed temperature, based on the pressure (elevation), and as long as there is liquid water it will never be any hotter.

I know if you leave the eggs boiling for about twenty minutes they end up very hard to break, which is great for easter eggs.  Otherwise I'm no expert since I can't stand a soft boiled egg. And since eggs in general aren't too good for heart health, I just don't eat boiled eggs.

Otherwise, I love food of almost any description, the more spice the better.

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Ians Daddy on 21/10/2003 04:05:30
Tweener,
If you love the spice, you should do yourself a favor and jaunt down to New Orleans for a few meals. There's nothing better than "Dat dere gator tail etouffe' wit' some jambalaya". I eat Mexican quite often and cajun every chance I get.
However, if eggs are not safe for you, cajun would be very dangerous. Crawfish hollandaise sauce is all butter and egg. Roux is a clogged artery on a plate. [:)]
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: tweener on 21/10/2003 15:41:51
Ronnie,
I love eggs and don't have any adverse reaction, but I'm just trying to keep my heart in shape.

As for the "Dat dere gator tail etouffe' wit' some jambalaya", I'd love it!  I just never get that far south.

Kansas City Barbeque keeps my arteies well clogged for now.

John

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Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on 11/01/2018 08:31:29
Bezoar, I second your opinion of the food in London.  Had the most horrible (and expensive) quiche there, among other hideous dishes, and no one knew what ketchup was!
What? Do they not have soya bean? Though it does make me curious, since I don't like ketchup.
Title: Re: Why are the yolks of hard-boiled eggs grey around the outside?
Post by: wolfekeeper on 12/01/2018 16:56:11
Yep, sounds like cheesecake. It's called cheesecake but actually isn't made of your average cheddar ! It uses cream cheese on a biscuit base and you flavour it with lemon or, as you say, vanilla and add chocolate sprinkles, cream and fruit to the top. Delicious.
Actually sounded more like a custard pie to me. Which is basically cheesecake without the cheese. But they're all just a variation on egg + dairy + sugar + other thickeners in variable proportions.