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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 06/06/2020 22:16:11 »

Incorrect. there is no proof covid causes death. Remember correlation is not proof of causation

Do you understand that not everything is correlation?

Nobody is using correlation to demonstrate the link between covid and death, they are (more or less) using Koch's postulates.
But the ONLY link between Vit D and Covid Is correlation, so there is no proof there.

So, there really is a difference.

Remember that when you get covid and they intubate you with 90% death rate.

The real reason is Cambridge gets 'donations' from big pharma. A form of control.

The contract states Cambridge must not promote ,endorse, support anything that effects the bottom line of the donator.

So this is the main reason this gang of three uses sophistry to cast doubt anything like vitamin D .

If i was talking about Remdisvir they would be singing it's praises because that is a huge moneyspinner.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 06/06/2020 22:08:32 »

Remember correlation is not proof of causation that fat people die from covid.

Good, I’m glad you understand that, however, we do have direct evidence that factors accompanying obesity do cause death from covid.

You however are making accusations against Big Pharma for which you have presented no evidence. You have 24hrs to either present such evidence or retract your accusations.

my accusations of the huge criminality by BIG PHARMA  is listed here.

Let us hear you excuses now.



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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 06/06/2020 22:06:29 »

WHO banned it from test trials

Well, do you understand why?
IT DIDN:T WORK.
Is that a complicated idea somehow?
There weas no sensble basis for assuming it would work.
Someone took a punt on it.
It failed.

That's common sense, not a conspiracy.

Oh look!
Science happened.
https://www.technologynetworks.com/drug-discovery/news/hydroxychloroquine-revived-by-who-as-doubt-cast-on-lancet-nejm-studies-335713?utm_content=131021367&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&hss_channel=fbp-272776442828550&fbclid=IwAR3iqQPZWq05RFP29Ov89rDTHLk9NdLsRIE4n_uywhx99NyyiaXGjLLIYJk

that's not possible if Profoundly's conspiracies are true.
So... they aren't.

i knew all along that HCQ was being discredited by big pharma with fake studies.

$1 treatment versus $4000 for remdisver.

just proves conspiracy theories get proved right in due course.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 06/06/2020 22:04:24 »

who needs vitamins?

Big pharma needs them; they make a lot of money from them.

not as much remdisvar at $4000 per treatment...

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 05/06/2020 14:21:00 »

On a related note, what's your take on my question here?
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=79698.msg604225#msg604225

We know that obesity is a factor in covid mortality.
Fat people are more liekly to die.

Remember correlation is not proof of causation that fat people die from covid.

Great!
Now do you understand why it's also not proof of causation in the case of Vit D?

Incorrect. there is no proof covid causes death. Remember correlation is not proof of causation

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 05/06/2020 14:02:10 »

On a related note, what's your take on my question here?
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=79698.msg604225#msg604225

We know that obesity is a factor in covid mortality.
Fat people are more liekly to die.

Remember correlation is not proof of causation that fat people die from covid.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 05/06/2020 10:41:08 »

Research studies.

That's awfully broad. There have been many research studies throughout history that weren't scientific, couldn't be replicated, etc.

you are correct but remember correlation does not prove causation.

Maybe they hurt somebody's bottom line?

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 05/06/2020 10:39:18 »

The consensus

Among whom?

Research studies.

I don't recall research studies saying that vitamin D will avert a cytokine storm in Covid patients.
There's a whole lot which shows that better fed patients are healthier or something.

how conveniently convenient.

maybe you have a poor memory recall or keep yourself in ignorance or pretending .

i already gave you the studies and here you are denying them.

whats going on?

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Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology / Re: What happens to water if you flash very intense light into water?

« on: 05/06/2020 10:34:47 »

it is morally wrong to bring your mother into it.

Why?
Who is harmed?
On the other hand, it's wrong for you to falsely accuse me of dishonesty.

Water still isn't alkaline.
Water still absorbs very little visible light.
In the scenario you cited the outcome would be that the water would warm up.
The data is available if you want to look for it, but, it seems you would rather try to impugn my morality.
In another thread you said you did your own research.
Do you mean you found some page on the web that said what you wanted to hear?
Because, if you actually did research, you would know that water is transparent (that doesn't take much "research") and you would know that it can't be  alkaline.

Alkaline water has a higher pH level than regular drinking water. Because of this, some advocates of alkaline water believe it can neutralize the acid in your body. Normal drinking water generally has a neutral pH of 7. Alkaline water typically has a pH of 8 or 9.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 22:31:40 »

The consensus

Among whom?

Research studies.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 22:31:12 »

i aint gonna wait for some stinky corrupt authority figure.

Who told you to take those pills?
Who is profiting from them.
Who has played you for a fool?

i did my research

i am profiting from it.

my brain has played me for a fool by safeguarding my health. i am so glad to be a fool.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 22:29:15 »

i take 20000 iu plus vit k  magnesium and 30 mg zinc.

also 500 mg vit c

That's not what I asked. I asked if mega-dose levels are required to stop the cytokine storm or if normal levels are enough.

The consensus from recent and previous studies indicate at least 1000 to 10000 are required. The range is wide as d3 blood levels vary with the amount of vit k2 and magnesium which helps absorption.

This i could take 10000 i.u but be low on the co-factors and my blood levels be still low and conversely I might take 1000 and have adequate levels if k2 and mg is adequate

the magic figure seems to be over 45 in the blood for virtual immunity from covid19.

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Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology / Re: What happens to water if you flash very intense light into water?

« on: 04/06/2020 22:23:41 »

Look it's really WRONG to use your mother to win arguments and morally dubious.

"Morally dubious"- says the man who accused me of lying.
She actually did  recover and  + go round the world on holiday.
And the point is that you can't say I was told that by the "Powers that be", and I can use that clinical datum, without needing to go to discuss confidentiality with an ethics committee.
It's the least morally, or otherwise  dubious datum we have.

But you don't like it so you accuse me of making stuff up.
That's pretty low, isn't it?

Alkaline water has health benefits and hence internet censors removed it under the pretext of fake news.

Everything that goes against big pharma is being removed or vilified or labelled as fake news.

Please give evidence to support this conspiracy theory.

Their is no proof that what you stated above is true

Do you even know what pH is?

i cant because empirical evidence is not accepted and trials cost many millions

You are the one not accepting it, aren't you? You don't accept the specific case of my mother.

Water can't be alkaline- by definition; it's neutral.

There is no proof people live longer as the number dying from cancer  is still over 50000 in USA alone

Why do you not see that there isn't a link there.
Everyon dies.
Too many of them die of cancer.
But what therapy does is incresase the interval between diagnosis (by some specific criterion) and death.

trials cost many millions

We aren't asking you to fund one, just look at the data from them.

it is morally wrong to bring your mother into it.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 22:19:40 »

.

the ones with high levels of D3 will escape as the cytokine storm is prevented by d3.

Do you mean normal levels or mega-dose levels?

i take 20000 iu plus vit k  magnesium and 30 mg zinc.

also 500 mg vit c


i aint gonna wait for some stinky corrupt authority figure.

I TAKE DECISIVE ACTION TO PROTECT MYSELF and my family.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 22:18:27 »

i saw the doctor for a sore throat in 2005 and never since due to my high levels of vit D3

Wait, so were you tested for COVID-19 or not?

i was.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 22:04:46 »

are vitamin D, magnesium and zinc

i saw the doctor for a sore throat in 2005 and never since due to my high levels of vit D3

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 21:50:12 »

yes they i said i had it and that i was 'lucky'.


i take 20000 iu plus vit k  magnesium and 30 mg zinc.

went to a doctor in 2005.

Perhaps you were, indeed, lucky. Some people have only mild symptoms.

the ones with high levels of D3 will escape as the cytokine storm is prevented by d3.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 21:36:48 »

i have been exposed as i felt vaguely ill/weak for a few hours and nothing happened afterwards

Then how do you know it was COVID-19 and not some other illness? Were you ever tested?

yes they i said i had it and that i was 'lucky'.


i take 20000 iu plus vit k  magnesium and 30 mg zinc.

went to a doctor in 2005.

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why has high dose Vit C and Vit D treatment been ignored for covid19?

« on: 04/06/2020 21:34:06 »

i have still not got covid19 because i take vitamin d.

Or maybe you're just lucky and haven't been exposed to it yet.

i take 20000 iu plus vit k  magnesium and 30 mg zinc.

went to a doctor in 2005.

i have been exposed as i felt vaguely ill/weak for a few hours and nothing happened afterwards

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New Theories / Re: Is I.T. E.R. the wrong shape?

« on: 04/06/2020 21:17:54 »

it's been put further back and it will never work as it is the wrong shape. how many torus shaped stars can you point to....


exactly zero..

That's like arguing that helicopters can't fly because they aren't shaped like birds.

its not a heliocopter.