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Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: kushami on 16/08/2015 14:00:32

Title: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: kushami on 16/08/2015 14:00:32
I was wondering whether eating food high in sugar would make you thirsty. I tried googling it but couldn't find any scientific or medical discussions either way.
Title: Re: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: Pecos_Bill on 16/08/2015 16:12:14
Google works well for some things and for others not so much.

Back in the day we used a technique called "experimentation". Or we might use "imagination".

For instance, why don't you eat a tablespoon of honey and wait 5 minutes. Will you feel thirsty or not?

NB: too much honey is liable to make you toss your cookies. A tablespoon should be safe enough, but feel free to use imagination instead.
Title: Re: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: RD on 16/08/2015 17:18:05
I was wondering whether eating food high in sugar would make you thirsty...

I think someone would have to be an untreated-diabetic, (or mainlining-lucozade :¬), to create conspicuous-thirst via sugar-intake ...

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When glucose becomes hyper-concentrated in your bloodstream, usually about 200mg/dL – though this number varies from person to person, your kidney loses the ability to reuptake (pull out) glucose from water. Under normal circumstances, almost all glucose is pulled out of urine and back into the body (as is most of the water, though this depends on how hydrated you are). Since the body can no longer pull glucose out from water in your kidneys, the osmotic pressure (the pressure that builds between a liquid with a high concentration of of solutes and a liquid with a low concentration) builds up. Eventually, it gets so high that water can no longer be absorbed back into your bloodstream, and is in fact being absorbed OUT of your bloodstream.
http://timesulin.com/theblog/excessive-thirst/ (http://timesulin.com/theblog/excessive-thirst/)
Title: Re: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: Pecos_Bill on 16/08/2015 18:07:11
Once upon a time in England there was a man named Francis Bacon.

There are those who say that he was a raving left-footer. Others say that he wrote Shakespeare's plays. Still others say that he died from a case of pneumonia that he contracted while personally studying the freezing of meat by stuffing a dead chicken with snow - when he was 66. What Voltaire said of him was that he was the father of the scientific method.

Do you think that Francis Bacon would have advised you to see for yourself or ask other men what they thought? More importantly, is medicine advanced by empirical and objective analysis or by seeking the consensus opinion of other men?

I mention this because in my callow youth informed medical opinion held that cardiovascular disease could be treated by ablating the pericardium and sprinkling talcum powder over the exposed heart muscle. [1.]

[1.] https://books.google.com/books?id=Mw6o_BgfPjQC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=cardiac+disease+treatment+talcum+powder+poudrage&source=bl&ots=Z48-MU0dz1&sig=KIePY-PSuigSzL1RVVJDWwDKdNc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCGoVChMIu_OozpmuxwIVxTuICh0Z-Axr#v=onepage&q=cardiac%20disease%20treatment%20talcum%20powder%20poudrage&f=false
Title: Re: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: alancalverd on 17/08/2015 08:30:37
You're treading on dangerous ground, Pecos! Without consensus and meta-analysis of biassed publications, there would be no profit in pharmaceuticals and the whole bogus industry of health economics and self-improvement diet books would shrivel.

Live fast, love hard, die young - the motto of the new age of medicine.
Title: Re: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: kushami on 22/08/2015 14:44:20
Without blinding, removing confounding factors, serious stats, and full body fluid intake and output monitoring, experimenting on myself would just make for an anecdotal data point of one.

Also, I don't like honey  [:)]
Title: Re: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: Pecos_Bill on 22/08/2015 19:26:52
PRIMUS

THE most important point in research is to formulate a proper question so that you don't go haring off down the wrong path wasting time and money.

The question asked was whether eating sugar makes YOU thirsty - not people in general. Therefore you have flunked just as you would have had this been the notorious exam where question # 1 says to do nothing until you have read question # 20. Question # 20 says to sign your blue book, close it and sit quietly watching the other people make fools of themselves.

SECUNDUS

How much money are you willing to spend on this research? The cure for cancer continues to elude us because people consistently prefer to buy weapons in preparation for the next war.

TERTIUS

Who really matters besides oneself when it comes to being made thirsty by a snickers bar?

FINALLY

If you won't buy into the research enough to eat a tablespoon of honey, are you cut from the same research cloth as Dr. Jesse Lazear who fatally infected himself with yellow fever in order to help prove that mosquitos were the vector so they could find a cure...someday? [1.]

[1.] http://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2009/04/mhst1-0904.html
Title: Re: Does eating food high in sugar make you thirsty?
Post by: wolfekeeper on 23/08/2015 01:22:19
It will tend to make you thirsty, but whether you actually become thirsty presumably depends on how well hydrated you are when you do it.

The maths looks like:

Amount of sugar consumed: 50g
Approximate amount of water needed to store this as glycogen in muscles/liver: ~200g

That's about one cup of water.

So if not having that cup of water free in your body makes you thirsty, then yes, eating 50g of sugar will make you thirsty.