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Psychotropic drugs (which are necessary to change neurotransmitter levels in the brain - assuming that's part of this condition) are powerful. They alter the brain, they are hard to get off of (withdrawal misery), and they have had some very nasty, unexpected side effects, such as dampening or inflaming libido, causing addictions and even changes in sexual orientation (dopamine agonists), and severe depression (the ones that were promised to "cure" addiction, for example). Viagra, on the other hand, is associated with sudden blindness and heart disease/strokes.
Quote from: reuniting on 12/06/2008 18:06:51Psychotropic drugs (which are necessary to change neurotransmitter levels in the brain - assuming that's part of this condition) are powerful. They alter the brain, they are hard to get off of (withdrawal misery), and they have had some very nasty, unexpected side effects, such as dampening or inflaming libido, causing addictions and even changes in sexual orientation (dopamine agonists), and severe depression (the ones that were promised to "cure" addiction, for example). Viagra, on the other hand, is associated with sudden blindness and heart disease/strokes. I disagree. I have a tendency to avoid medication when I can -- as I think most people do -- but SSRIs, for instance, have really helped people with serious depression. Many have taken them regularly for over 10 years, and the net effect has definitely been positive. I think these drugs have done a lot more good than harm. And I'm in a professional situation where I frequently have contact with extremely intelligent research physicians. The general consensus amongst them is the same: SSRIs have done a world of good for a lot of people, where pretty much anything else would have been far less effective.As far as POIS goes, I would be absolutely thankful for anything that would alleviate the POIS symptoms; I'd easily trade POIS for erectile dysfunction. I -- and I'm sure most others -- are in a state of desperation. I don't have the luxury to think "Oh, these drugs have a somewhat unknown effect". I just want something that works.But I don't really want to turn this into a debate about whether various drugs are good or bad; I'll take what helps. No-one would deny L-dopa to someone with Parkinson's.
It would be great if everything had a natural solution. Unfortunately, that's not the real world.
Quote from: demografx on 13/06/2008 00:04:01It would be great if everything had a natural solution. Unfortunately, that's not the real world.Exactly. For instance, it would be transparently foolish to recommend only 'natural' solutions to someone with a condition like Parkinson's disease, or diabetes.
Quote from: Counterpoints on 13/06/2008 03:07:23Quote from: demografx on 13/06/2008 00:04:01It would be great if everything had a natural solution. Unfortunately, that's not the real world.Exactly. For instance, it would be transparently foolish to recommend only 'natural' solutions to someone with a condition like Parkinson's disease, or diabetes. Thanks for your welcome B Jim and DemografxI understand your point Counterpoints and the idea behind. But it's not a very good example for L-Dopa and insulin which can almost be considered natural substances, however not found without prescription at the local natural food/herbal store i admit ! About SSRI i'm sure it has unknown bad effects and i have big hesitation since a long time to take this medication. If it's good for PE perhaps it's good to reduce wet dreams. I have to push myself to try this. It seems i have a kind of gradual POIS : i'm a lot better after pois day 4 but I really start to be mentally well (self confidence) just the day before a wet dream , approx pois day 15-21.
Demografx: It would take pretty much zero time and resources for them to give us some web-space, and technical support isn't necessary. But anyways, if they don't want to help, I will make sure this happens some other way: I know of some people who could easily help, but for the sake of anonymity, I was going to wait on asking. Thanks for looking into this.
Because there is, as of yet, no clear definitive understanding of the CAUSE of POIS, my attitude is a wait-and-see one. I want to know what I am treating before I commit to treating it.
We are now getting into the semantics of what it means to be 'natural', and I think this is besides the point.