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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #160 on: 10/11/2021 19:12:52 »
Quote from: Origin on 10/11/2021 13:31:19
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/11/2021 05:28:47
As usual you do not justify the reason of your negation. Why the black hole does not have enormous gravitational potential energy?
An isolated black hole would have no potential energy, that follows from the definition of gravitational potential energy.
Maybe isolated. But what are your sources? Once again they are badass.

Here are mine:

As the gravitational field of a black hole extends to infinity, its potential energy extends similarly and contributes also to its observed mass. arXiv - The Gravitational Energy of a Black Hole

Quote from: Origin on 10/11/2021 13:31:19

However the main issue with your statement is this:
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/11/2021 05:28:47
Simply. I say that passing over a black hole would draw the curve of the Higgs field.
That is simply gibberish.

Sorry but it's because you don't understand not much about it.

But now that you know that the potential energy exists up to infinite values, and that in addition there is a mass link, then it is easy to integrate the Higgs potential into the field.

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #161 on: 10/11/2021 20:15:53 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/11/2021 19:12:52
Sorry but it's because you don't understand not much about it.
No one can understand gibberish, it's gibberish...
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/11/2021 19:12:52
But now that you know that the potential energy exists up to infinite values
  Potential energy is never infinite.  Is it to much to ask that you at least have a vague idea of physics before posting! 
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #162 on: 10/11/2021 20:30:08 »
Quote from: Origin on 10/11/2021 20:15:53
Potential energy is never infinite.  Is it to much to ask that you at least have a vague idea of physics before posting!

Potential energy is never infinite for a black hole? Origin do you at least have a vague idea of physics before posting? It is a publication of arXiv the sentence. Do you think I'm going to believe you, rather than a source of them?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #163 on: 10/11/2021 21:28:34 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/11/2021 20:30:08
Origin do you at least have a vague idea of physics before posting?
Yes, he has.
You don't.

Your diagrams also seem to be nonsense.

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #164 on: 11/11/2021 00:56:08 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/11/2021 21:28:34
Yes, he has.
You don't.

You, you don't too. How could I believe you when:

As the gravitational field of a black hole extends to infinity, its potential energy extends similarly and contributes also to its observed mass. arXiv - The Gravitational Energy of a Black Hole

or

In the center of a black hole is a gravitational singularity, a one-dimensional point which contains a huge mass in an infinitely small space, where density and gravity become infinite and space-time curves infinitely, and where the laws of physics as we know them cease to operate. https://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/topics_blackholes_singularities.html

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A black hole has an infinite density; since its volume is zero, it is compressed to the very limit. So it also has infinite gravity, and sucks anything which is near it! https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/25802/why-does-a-black-hole-have-a-finite-mass

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The black hole entropy becomes infinite in the semiclassical limit of large horizon, i.e. r S → ∞ . https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S055032132030198X

or

Gravitational singularities are mainly considered in the context of general relativity, where density apparently becomes infinite at the center of a black hole, and within astrophysics and cosmology as the earliest state of the universe during the Big Bang/White Hole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity

ect...

Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/11/2021 21:28:34
Your diagrams also seem to be nonsense.

Why use the term seemed? It seems you are not sure.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #165 on: 11/11/2021 01:36:32 »
Here is an interesting paper:

arXiv - Black holes and Higgs stability We study the effect of primordial black holes on the classical rate of nucleation of AdS regions within the standard electroweak vacuum. We find that the energy barrier for transitions to the new vacuum, which characterizes the exponential suppression of the nucleation rate, can be reduced significantly in the black-hole background. A precise analysis is required in order to determine whether the the existence of primordial black holes is compatible with the form of the Higgs potential at high temperature or density in the Standard Model or its extensions.

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #166 on: 11/11/2021 03:22:51 »
The path of the orbit on the previous diagram, indicates our current vacuum just like the following diagram and represent the Zero-Point-Energy and inertia. The junction on either side of the Higgs field through the metatasability (?) would represent the correct curve. For lack of kinetic energy the particle falls into a true vacuum, that is to say at the bottom of the singularity.


source: https://physics.aps.org/articles/v8/108


source: https://atlas.cern/updates/briefing/double-higgs-double-difficulty

The double difficulty represents matter and antimatter, namely the anti-Higgs. The symmetry breaking therefore represents the culmination of negative energy, namely the maximum background of the singularity.
The two peaks represent the two orbits (ZPE) at the edges of the singularity, our current vacuum.
Semilocal strings are vortices in the extended Abelian-Higgs model with two complex Higgs scalar fields among which a global SU(2) symmetry acts.


source: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Stabilizing-semilocal-strings-by-polarization-Eto-Nitta/4cbc62ee5cbaf871a886a2c734fb4b4ad2a257b2#paper-header


source: https://www.energy.gov/science/hep/articles/beautiful-higgs-decays
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #167 on: 16/11/2021 01:06:59 »
I have plenty of time to perfect my model and present it to universitys when the time is right.

I - Gravitational Oscillator (Hole Through the Earth Example)
II - Singularity avoidance by kinetic energy (Higgs)

You can't get any easier.

It would be disastrous for the patent and publication sector to be able to unify quantum mechanics with relativistic physics. What would colliders be used for?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #168 on: 16/11/2021 13:13:16 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 16/11/2021 01:06:59
I have plenty of time to perfect my model
Don't waste time here then.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #169 on: 16/11/2021 21:07:23 »
Hi again Kartazion.

I suppose your Model is quite ready to be shared & distributed within subject matter experts.

Well Done!

You do not have to be worried much about " Patents ".

You posted your hard work in here.
These posts would bear resemblance of proof of your ownership.
Unless, someone, somewhere else already has all of this Figured Out.

So, all the best for your future endeavours.
Just take all printouts, & storm to your nearest University.
Amaze them all.

It would be a Pleasure to see your work being cited & published & receiving World wide recognition.

(Hoping you won't forget all of ours tiny micro contributions.)

Ps - Sorry H
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #170 on: 16/11/2021 21:33:26 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 16/11/2021 01:06:59
I have plenty of time to perfect my model and present it to universitys when the time is right.
Whether you send it now or in the future it will still end up in the garbage so I would suggest you don't spend a lot of time on it.

You see we have already pointed out your countless errors {that you have ignored) so any knowledgeable person will not waste their time reading your obviously wrong paper.  But I know you won't let me ruin your fantasy so have at it and dream on...
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #171 on: 17/11/2021 22:17:40 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 16/11/2021 13:13:16
Don't waste time here then.
This is just to warn you of the future vision of quantum physics vs level 101.

Quote from: Origin on 16/11/2021 21:33:26
Whether you send it now or in the future it will still end up in the garbage so I would suggest you don't spend a lot of time on it.
How to believe you. You have no credit for me.

Quote from: Origin on 16/11/2021 21:33:26
You see we have already pointed out your countless errors {that you have ignored) ...
Can you list them?

Nothing which disapproves of the proper functioning of my gravitational oscillator. Just a story of repulsive force where we didn't agree.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #172 on: 17/11/2021 23:05:11 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 17/11/2021 22:17:40
Can you list them?
We started with
Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 12:24:47
Gravity is energy
and
Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 13:36:13
I really mean that the force of gravity is energy.

And it didn't get better after that.
This thread is essentially you making errors, and us listing them for you.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #173 on: 17/11/2021 23:05:57 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 17/11/2021 22:17:40
This is just to warn you of the future vision of quantum physics vs level 101.
Does that mean you plan to post more dross?
Please don't.
In the end you will go the way of Dave Lev.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=46078
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #174 on: 17/11/2021 23:23:35 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/11/2021 23:05:11
We started with
Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 12:24:47
Gravity is energy
and
Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 13:36:13
I really mean that the force of gravity is energy.

And it didn't get better after that.
This thread is essentially you making errors, and us listing them for you.

And besides that? What else?

This thread is basically good. It starts with the gravitational oscillator. There is even a tutorial on this.. You have to be able to substitute the center of the earth for the supermassive black hole.


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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #175 on: 17/11/2021 23:33:41 »
You can't get any easier. The scariest part here is your denial of accepting that a person like me without a degree could manage to explain something super simple. To pretend not to understand my oscillator is to take me for a fool.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #176 on: 18/11/2021 03:06:57 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 17/11/2021 23:33:41
To pretend not to understand my oscillator is to take me for a fool.
Simple harmonic motion is a real thing, however your ideas are fantasy.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #177 on: 18/11/2021 05:50:07 »
Quote from: Origin on 18/11/2021 03:06:57
Simple harmonic motion is a real thing, however your ideas are fantasy.

Once again you are wrong. You talk to me about fantasy when this has already been studied. I cannot take you seriously. You don't know your subject well.


I understand that you are doing everything to discredit me. Is that I have to be right for you to act like this.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #178 on: 18/11/2021 08:42:40 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 17/11/2021 23:23:35
And besides that? What else?

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=82710.msg647680#msg647680

Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 17:08:25
You cannot reach the other pole by simply falling.

Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 22:10:52
the problem remains in antimatter.
Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 22:10:52
there would be an overlap between matter and antimatter from south to north and north to the south. I had thought that the center of the earth was the point of antimatter.
Quote from: Kartazion on 20/07/2021 01:33:55
The number of gravitons placed end to end (point to point), ie, on the direction of the vertical height, then gives the energy of gravitational potential; B
Quote from: Kartazion on 21/07/2021 04:40:40
In the gravitational oscillator that I present, there are two types of radiation. First there is the vertical radiation, called fermionic, either the oscillation of the particle from bottom to top and from top to bottom; And there is horizontal radiation, or bosonic radiation


And that's just from the first page.


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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #179 on: 21/11/2021 03:43:19 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 18/11/2021 08:42:40

Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 17:08:25
You cannot reach the other pole by simply falling.

I explained myself on this point in the message just after.

Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 22:10:52
the problem remains in antimatter.
Quote from: Kartazion on 19/07/2021 22:10:52
there would be an overlap between matter and antimatter from south to north and north to the south. I had thought that the center of the earth was the point of antimatter.

Correct.

Quote from: Kartazion on 20/07/2021 01:33:55
The number of gravitons placed end to end (point to point), ie, on the direction of the vertical height, then gives the energy of gravitational potential; B

Correct.



Quote from: Kartazion on 21/07/2021 04:40:40
In the gravitational oscillator that I present, there are two types of radiation. First there is the vertical radiation, called fermionic, either the oscillation of the particle from bottom to top and from top to bottom; And there is horizontal radiation, or bosonic radiation

Ok. I'm not sure yet. But the distinction would be made according to the direction of the vector of gravity. Indeed for an annihilation of a pair of electron / positron with a type linear collider ILC, but this one vertical. Clearly it would take a vertical collider using the gravitational force to verify my predictions. The decay scheme would be different if only by the kinetic energy, because indeed the scalar diffusion of the energy would act in the vector direction of the particle.

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