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Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?

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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #60 on: 08/01/2022 13:15:51 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 08/01/2022 13:08:26
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/01/2022 12:06:06
My invitation remains open. Bring me a device that actually produces more energy than it consumes and I will find engineers and investors to commercialise it. Absolute secrecy and 10% of the profits guaranteed.

Here it is. Upgrade for dynamo machine. Rotorless generator.
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The circumference of a generator longer than the circumference of the motor.
That looks like Alan's offer of a contract was made and accepted (possibly without checking the small print but that's the OP's choice).
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #61 on: 08/01/2022 15:16:44 »
Yes, I did.

There are some small features how to make it more powerful, but the concept I believe understood.
« Last Edit: 08/01/2022 15:22:43 by vdblnkr34 »
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #62 on: 08/01/2022 23:04:49 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/01/2022 13:15:51
That looks like Alan's offer of a contract was made and accepted (possibly without checking the small print but that's the OP's choice).
By small print I assume you mean this bit “Bring me a device that actually produces more energy than it consumes”  ???
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #63 on: 08/01/2022 23:10:22 »
Nice to do business with you.

The "rotorless generator" you drew, involves two rotors, so isn't rotorless at all. It would make a neat coaxial electromechanical voltage converter that we used to use in aircraft but these have all been superseded by electronic inverters. The electronic ones are much more efficient than the motor-dynamo but sadly, still only produce about 90 - 95% of what they consume, so no development deal.

Please send my £75 consultancy fee (I'm very cheap) + 20% VAT. Details by private message. 
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #64 on: 08/01/2022 23:16:57 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 08/01/2022 23:04:49
By small print I assume you mean this bit “Bring me a device that actually produces more energy than it consumes” 
No, I review any plans or prototypes at a very reasonable hourly rate (£150) with a minimum charge of £75 + VAT.

If a client produces an actual working device I'll take on the development project at risk as stated: I'll assemble an equity consortium of investors and engineers and pay the inventor 10% of any and all profits we make from the sale of whatever energy or energetic product it produces.
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #65 on: 08/01/2022 23:41:24 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/01/2022 12:06:06
My invitation remains open. Bring me a device that actually produces more energy than it consumes and I will find engineers and investors to commercialise it. Absolute secrecy and 10% of the profits guaranteed.
Sadly I don't think the will be much profit from "calvert heat pumps". If we install a heat pump in the nevada desert (as helpfully heat pumps work most efficiently at higher temperatures and transfer the energy to a turbine that may work.
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #66 on: 08/01/2022 23:48:03 »
A heat pump can only transfer heat from one place to another. It can't generate energy, any more than a truck  can generate its cargo, and like a truck, it consumes energy to do the moving. 
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #67 on: 09/01/2022 12:37:48 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/01/2022 23:10:22
The "rotorless generator" you drew, involves two rotors, so isn't rotorless at all. It would make a neat coaxial electromechanical voltage converter that we used to use in aircraft
Takes me back. In my misspent youth I used an airforce surplus one to drive a portable transmitter from a battery. I say portable, transportable would be a better description.
The converter generated a lot of interference so I built a diode capacitor voltage pump instead.

There is one feature of the design you've been shown that I like:
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 08/01/2022 13:08:26
The circumference of a generator longer than the circumference of the motor.
Makes it easier to roll to the dump  8)

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Thanks.Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #68 on: 10/01/2022 19:58:50 »
Thanks, I try my best.
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #69 on: 12/01/2022 09:44:35 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/01/2022 23:48:03
A heat pump can only transfer heat from one place to another. It can't generate energy,
That is all generation is Alan, in science there is a rule called the conservation of energy. One cannot just "create energy", its considered a no-no.

https://www.britannica.com/science/conservation-of-energy

It's not the best article, but it's a good one to start yourself on.



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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #70 on: 02/02/2022 11:49:54 »
However, we could also change it into something we could be able to use. The possibility exists to reduce or offset the carbon dioxide produced by burning the fuels that resulted or even have a chance later on that we can transform the process into a carbon-neutral one. It is imperative to take action now, but we have time to tackle the CO2 levels. However, plastic pollution is possible to be killing us all now. The only way to put our bodies moving to clean it up is to see it being valued a lot more than just rubbish. It's easy to complain about how humans are a scumbag later and If this is what we need to be motivated to take action, I'll go for it. I'll take any thing in this moment, and we're no longer in the luxury of waiting for perfection any longer.
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #71 on: 02/02/2022 18:46:15 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/01/2022 23:48:03
A heat pump can only transfer heat from one place to another. It can't generate energy, any more than a truck  can generate its cargo, and like a truck, it consumes energy to do the moving.

I found a good use for your heat pump idea. High pressure hot steam. Is it enough to run this heat pump?
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #72 on: 08/02/2022 12:07:21 »
Hey, here is an alternative way to recycle carbon dioxide.
Setting out separate containers for glass, metal, and paper isn't nearly as complicated as recycling carbon dioxide. Many scientists, however, feel that it is not just worthwhile, but also critical. They say that the threat of climate change to the earth is now so enormous that any effort to solve it must incorporate so-called "carbon negative" technology. This entails extracting the greenhouse gas out of the atmosphere and using it for something useful. If hazardous climate change is to be avoided, humanity must stop emitting CO2 from fossil fuel use. However, for critical mobility applications, liquid carbon-based energy carriers are sometimes the only viable option. The use of renewable energy to recycling atmospheric CO2 into synthetic fuels provides an energy concept with no net CO2 emissions.
Scientists can convert CO2 into short molecules like carbon monoxide and methane using energy, water, and a variety of catalysts, which they can then combine to make more complex hydrocarbon fuels like butane.
The concept is based on artificial photosynthesis: where nature can take light, CO2, and water and turn it into food, we're looking for methods to construct systems that can take CO2, renewable energy, and water and turn it into more valuable items. It's similar to a reverse fuel cell. Water is divided into protons and oxygen gas at the anode, while CO2 is electrochemically converted to various value-added compounds such carbon monoxide, methane, and ethylene at the cathode. So you're electrochemically decreasing CO2 by feeding it protons and electrons [from the water and electricity].
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Re: Is this a feasible system for recycling CO2?
« Reply #73 on: 08/02/2022 15:45:23 »
Quote from: Iannguyen on 08/02/2022 12:07:21
Scientists can convert CO2 into short molecules like carbon monoxide and methane using energy, water, and a variety of catalysts, which they can then combine to make more complex hydrocarbon fuels like butane.
Which we then burn to make CO2.

Fact is that our standard of living is utterly dependent on burning carbon compounds, either to keep ourselves alive (as food) or to make stuff and go places.
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