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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: Æthelwulf on 20/03/2012 07:25:06
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***** I COPIED AND PASTED these links so they have not processed properly. I did just post the links again, but I will renew them at the end of this post as well******
This is a series of posts I have made on a closed discussion page on facebook. My attempt was to find the most compelling UFO evidence there is. Even a skeptic should think twice.
Each post will be seperated by a few dotted lines.
The posts start now:
I was reminded of a case earlier today which I was able to find on youtube. This event occurred in the Highlands, where I live in Scotland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrS48HM6-Q
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Do you like coincidences? I checked Nick Popes page there to find that his statements of the pics being destroyed have reached major headlines this week... note the documentary here is about a year old http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/proof-shredded-but-the-truth-is-out-there-insists-ufo-investigator-1-2168877
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I am not a big fan of youtube videos, I seldom use them as evidence unless they deem worthy some how.
If the Pitlochry Case is in fact evidence that this technology is ours, why then is the airforce still being scrambled to intercept these objects? Here is a fanstastic video I deem as trustworthy. It is quite dark, you will not see much in the way of what is happening, but these objects seen in the sky were obviously caught on radar... next, near the end of the video, you can hear the airforce coming in to intercept these objects cascading the sky and skimming the tree line tops http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981177070
Of course, the video is not the only whim that jets chase these objects. There have been dozens of such accounts, recorded accounts as well. We will visit one later in a documentary I will post.
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Of course what we give is evidence. It might not be absolute proof, but it is tantalizing evidence nonetheless. One case, which is undisputed in its authenticity, is the Washinton 1952 sighting of several saucer shaped craft over washington and the white house.
The White House must have a selective memory for this event, considering their most recent statement saying there was absolutely no evidence that alien civilizations have been visiting the planet - complete Hogwash - on so many levels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Wa...._UFO_incident
In short, several orb like objects moved over washington and was witnessed by many. Of course, this was a matter of security, the airforce where deployed and cutting the story short, these objects evaded interception of what was currently at the time, the best aerodynamical technology at the time. The objects showed intent and intelligent - proving these objects where not atrmospheric phenomenon, which many did not believe at first hand anyway, including members of the Military.
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The William Schaftner case is a strange case indeed... the story ends in a man sent to intercept a UFO but his encounter was all too odd. He was never found after his encounter. As usual, the MoD played down what his role was. But their explanation does not fit the bill as you will see, and I offer some scientific credibility that he actually intercepted a bona fide UFO.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=43442.0
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Little do most know, but the government took a particular interest around the Cold War period in UFO-like craft. This was a secret experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar
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And now... to perhaps the greatest and most famous of all Astronaut UFO sightings was aboard the Skylab 3. Three astronauts, one being a scientist saw a red (flashing object) outside of their ship in 1973. They observed it for 10 minutes and took four color photographs. Keep in mind, it is difficult to question the integrity of these men http://www.factfictionandconjecture.ca/files/skylab_3.html -- Whatever it was, it caught their eye. It was a most unusual event. The size of this object was calculated. It was about 800 feet in diameter. This was a collosal size, much bigger than any object we had sent into space at that time. If it had not been for the calculations made, NASA no doubt would have played down the sighting later to come, probably due to debris.
It must be noted strongly that in many STS-video's UFO's have been caught on video. Many astronauts have came forward admitting that they have seen UFO's. These are trained professionals.
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Perhaps one of the most famous mass sightings (but unusually no wiki article, along with the skylab 3 case) was this case: http://www.ufobc.ca/yukon/22index.htm - many witnesses to the one superhuge (?mothership?) UFO.
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Now, I am finally coming to an end. Do you still have doubts? Of course you do, I do to. However, there are were a few more cases I wanted to show you, such as the Shag Harbour case (a very strange incident) including a few others. It just so happens some of them are documented in this 2012 doc. on the top ten UFO sightings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sev01assDB0&feature=related If you will, take time to watch this. The accounts in this documentary are very accurate, atleast to the degree I have studied this for myself. Brilliant documentary even for the skeptic.
Even if you don't like watching documentaries, this one will not take a great amount of time out your life. This should be watched for it contains the rest of the cases I was going to talk about. This documentary most probably would have discussed these cases in much more clarity than I would have.
Enjoy
****The links
http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/proof-shredded-but-the-truth-is-out-there-insists-ufo-investigator-1-2168877
also http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/ufo-photo-united-kingdom_n_1354737.html?ref=mostpopular#s307063&title=Weather_Phenomenon
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981177070
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington_D.C._UFO_incident
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=43442.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar
http://www.factfictionandconjecture.ca/files/skylab_3.html
(My favourite) http://www.ufobc.ca/yukon/22index.htm
... and the documentary
which contained two of the last cases I was going to discuss, one more prominently names Shag Harbour. There are 10 incidents listed in this documentary as the ''greatest ever'' or ''best ever''
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http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=37696.msg346254#msg346254
BTW Æthelwulf none of the links in your post above work for me, (conspiracy to conceal the truth ? [:)] ).
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http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=37696.msg346254#msg346254
I have actually had quite a few discussions with Nick Pope.
Of course, not all UFO cases released by the MoD can be taken for granted. There is a lot of woo woo going on with some accounts, but to discredit all accounts based on this ''culture'' is folly and quite frankly, ridiculous. There are many bona fide, real sightings which defy all explanations, rational one's at least.
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http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=37696.msg346254#msg346254
BTW Æthelwulf none of the links in your post above work for me, (conspiracy to conceal the truth ?).
Hmm...
I will make a list of the links in a post soon. I will make a notice at the top of my page. Thank you.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/proof-shredded-but-the-truth-is-out-there-insists-ufo-investigator-1-2168877
also http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/ufo-photo-united-kingdom_n_1354737.html?ref=mostpopular#s307063&title=Weather_Phenomenon
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981177070
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington_D.C._UFO_incident
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=43442.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar
http://www.factfictionandconjecture.ca/files/skylab_3.html
(My favourite) http://www.ufobc.ca/yukon/22index.htm
... and the documentary
which contained two of the last cases I was going to discuss, one more prominently names Shag Harbour. There are 10 incidents listed in this documentary as the ''greatest ever'' or ''best ever''