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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: paul.fr on 22/11/2007 15:01:16

Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: paul.fr on 22/11/2007 15:01:16
should this be in chat, or somewhere else? please move if you want.

I have heard that certain drugs have such an effect on you that you can sometimes think you are being chased by pink elephants. If these drugs were around before we discovered elephants (of any colour) what would the people taking them have been chased by.
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: stana on 22/11/2007 15:56:48
Pink monsters?

I bet youve never imagined a certain animal, and if you seen that animal under the influence of drugs what would you describe it as?
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: SquarishTriangle on 23/11/2007 05:00:54
You mean these aren't REAL pink elephants???
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Post by: neilep on 23/11/2007 06:22:04
Try staying awake for a few days !!...you'll see more than pink elephants !
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: paul.fr on 23/11/2007 08:08:17
You mean these aren't REAL pink elephants???

not even in Oz.
although the Uk has plenty of white elephants, this for example

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Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: neilep on 23/11/2007 13:59:55
I think I'm the only person who really loves the dome !!
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Post by: Karen W. on 23/11/2007 14:23:13
I do not know what it is but it is pretty. The iridescent colors are really cool. It looks like something kind of futuristic!..
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: SquarishTriangle on 23/11/2007 14:42:09
Yeah what is that? and is it related to this?:
Exhibit 1 (http://www.nudibranch.com.au/pages/0520c.htm)
or this?:
Exhibit 2 (http://www.nudibranch.com.au/pages/4438a.htm)
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: paul.fr on 23/11/2007 23:54:25
Yeah what is that? and is it related to this?:
Exhibit 1 (http://www.nudibranch.com.au/pages/0520c.htm)
or this?:
Exhibit 2 (http://www.nudibranch.com.au/pages/4438a.htm)

Its the millenium dome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: JimBob on 24/11/2007 00:06:54
Until recently - last 300 years or so -  most drug use, except for alcohol, was as an adjunct or prelude to ritualistic and religious activity. In south America, Jaguars, snakes and other animals, In North America bears, eagles - all sorts of totems.

Other culture and those in the Americas have all sorts of monsters that are reported in the experiences of persons using hallucinogens in religious and shamanic ceremonies.
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: Alandriel on 26/11/2007 21:44:14
But not Pink elephants aye?  (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jubailforums.com%2Fvb35%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Feyebrow.gif&hash=a2d4fdbfdada29d961e02a106fb02861)

Funky stuff that must be, producing pink elephants...

Definitely too much 'Lucy in the sky with diamonds'






Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: Karen W. on 26/11/2007 21:56:16
I was under the impression seeing pink elephants was always in reference to alcohol and not drugs.. My daughter is a bartender and the pink elephant things are always available to buy in reference to drinking to much alcohol! Like this stuff:

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&va=pink+elephants&sz=all&ei=UTF-8&ni=20&fr=ytff1-&b=181

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb73%2Fkarenw44%2Falbum%2520two%2Fpink-elephant.jpg&hash=1f50341da1323f506d568a017d5c3a86)

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb73%2Fkarenw44%2Falbum%2520two%2FShaker_elephant_pink_1_small.jpg&hash=7c934a5cc5c9539d33bac86b335eb89b)

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb73%2Fkarenw44%2Falbum%2520two%2F3135884600.jpg&hash=6edf0cfbdc5b74559fda0f06a817f0c8)
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Post by: ukmicky on 26/11/2007 22:09:39
Ive been very close to viewing both the dome and pink elephants in the past but alas ive never taken them final steps :)
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Post by: Karen W. on 26/11/2007 22:11:44
 Well I bet you are glad about that!  I have never even come close, but I know me dad visited regularly!

Merry Christmas Michael!
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Post by: elegantlywasted on 26/11/2007 22:18:39
Drink enough Absinthe and you'll see the little green fairy...
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Post by: Karen W. on 26/11/2007 22:28:14
HEE HEE HEE!
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Post by: kdlynn on 27/11/2007 00:18:07
hmmm... who knew moulin rouge was factual..have you tried it meg?
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Post by: elegantlywasted on 27/11/2007 01:28:50
The real stuff is illegal in North America, I need one of my European friends to send me a bottle... *hint hint*
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Post by: kdlynn on 27/11/2007 02:37:38
ok i knew it was illegal here, but i was wondering if canada was different. you can get it in west virginia i think though... or is that everclear? can't remember
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Post by: neilep on 27/11/2007 03:18:13
hmmm... who knew moulin rouge was factual..have you tried it meg?

My favourite film....did ewe know that Kylie was the little green fairy ?
Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: kdlynn on 27/11/2007 03:29:50
no i did not.
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Post by: neilep on 27/11/2007 03:32:49
no i did not.

If you have it on DVD...watch it again !!..it's Kylie Minogue *le sigh*

.....ewe  might think that I like it cos of Nicole but I actually think Ewan McGregor is fantastic.....and he has a great singing voice !!...I luff that film !!

Title: drugs and seeing pink elephants.
Post by: Karen W. on 27/11/2007 03:57:10
I have that one it is a good film! The music is great too!
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Post by: kdlynn on 27/11/2007 04:02:29
i do have it. i'll watch it tomorrow. it's too late to start a movie now
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Post by: elegantlywasted on 27/11/2007 04:59:44
You can buy Absinthe in the US and Canada but it isn't true Absinthe. Wormwood, the active ingredient (actually Thujone the active ingredient in Wormwood), is highly regulated by most government liguor boards. The stuff available to buy in Canada is of the same strength as the stuff in the EU. But is completley illegal in the US.
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According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection literature, "The importation of Absinthe and any other liquors or liqueurs that contain Artemisia absinthium is prohibited."[57] On the other hand, FDA regulations allow Artemisia species in foods or beverages, but those that contain Artemisia species, white cedar, oak moss, tansy or Yarrow, must be thujone free.[58] Other herbs that contain thujone have no restrictions. For example, sage and sage oil (which can be almost 50% thujone[47]) are on the FDA's list of substances generally recognized as safe.[59]

The prevailing consensus of interpretation of United States law and regulations among American absinthe connoisseurs is that it is probably legal to purchase such a product for personal use in the U.S. It is prohibited to sell items meant for human consumption which contain thujone derived from Artemisia species. (This derives from a Food and Drug Administration regulation, as opposed to a DEA regulation.) Customs regulations specifically forbid the importation of 'absinthe'. Absinthe can be and occasionally is seized by United States Customs if it appears to be for human consumption and can be seized inside the U.S. with a warrant.[60][61]

A faux-absinthe liquor called Absente, made with southern wormwood (Artemisia abrotanum) instead of grande wormwood (Artemisia absinthium), is sold legally in the United States and does not contain Grande Wormwood. This was the first US approval referring to "absinthe" on the front label; the front label says "Absinthe Refined" but the US Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB) classified the product as Liqueur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe#United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe#United_States)

The real stuff is best found in the Czech Republic or in Switzerland.
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Post by: Alandriel on 27/11/2007 16:28:36
Or central London. I might be open to bribes  [;)] [;D]
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Post by: BenV on 27/11/2007 18:34:42
Getting back onto topic - I wondered if the idea of seeing pink elephants was around before the film Dumbo? Dumbo was released in 1941 and a little research told me that it indeed turned up in the 1913 novel John Barleycorn, by Jack London:

"[He] is the man whom we all know, stupid, unimaginative, whose brain is bitten numbly by numb maggots; who walks generously with wide-spread, tentative legs, falls frequently in the gutter, and who sees, in the extremity of his ecstasy, blue mice and pink elephants. He is the type that gives rise to the jokes in the funny papers."

So there you go.

In other words, I can't help.  I guess that when people who have never hallucinated think of the strange things you might see, pink elephants seem very strange!