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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: dentstudent on 20/01/2009 10:16:43

Title: Which "bong" is the actual "hour bong"?
Post by: dentstudent on 20/01/2009 10:16:43
I'm sure that I knew this, but have since forgotten. In my new pad, I can hear the village clock chiming away slices of the night every quarter of an hour [:(!], and so I've been able to lie awake and ponder this once more. So for the hour chime, which chime is the actual hour changing on? Is there international agreement about this, and so all clocks chime the hour on the same chime? For simplicity, it should be the first "bong", but it could also be the last.

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Title: Which "bong" is the actual "hour bong"?
Post by: syhprum on 20/01/2009 10:40:44
The "bong" is a rather ill defined time check but I have always found that the start of the first "bong" from 'Big Ben' most closely coinsides with the correct time whereas the start of the last 'Greenwich pip' is the correct time (nearly)
Title: Which "bong" is the actual "hour bong"?
Post by: dentstudent on 20/01/2009 11:09:57
Thanks Syphrum. Yes, it is ill-defined, but there must be a general concensus, wouldn't you think? Also, your Greenwich pips (post Gladys Knight, I assume) would be deviant through their broadcasting via radio. The 3rd pip was also the "stroke" used by the speaking clock.
Title: Which "bong" is the actual "hour bong"?
Post by: Don_1 on 20/01/2009 12:39:16
The first strike of Big Ben itself marks the time as you rightly say syhprum, not the preceeding Westminster chime, but on the 1/4 and 1/2 hour mark I'm not so sure.

It's enough to give you the pip!
Title: Which "bong" is the actual "hour bong"?
Post by: yor_on on 23/01/2009 16:06:46
Hmm, interesting question that one.
Dedending on what 'bong' you refer too, time could even be perceived as being displaced.
Perhaps?
Title: Which "bong" is the actual "hour bong"?
Post by: techmind on 19/02/2009 00:24:22
Also, your Greenwich pips would be deviant through their broadcasting via radio.

I believe the 'Greenwich' pips are actually generated by an equipment rack somewhere at the BBC (but synchronised to atomic clocks). In the days of analog radio any delays would have been quite neglible, but in these days of digital processing - and certainly for digital broadcasts (DAB) and/or satellite broadcasts delays of a substantial fraction of a second are inevitable.