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Non Life Sciences => Technology => Topic started by: MartinTheK on 27/05/2009 06:35:39

Title: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: MartinTheK on 27/05/2009 06:35:39
I bought my kindle 2 because my hand is weak following my stroke.

Now I can carry 40 books - many free from Project Gutenberg - in my man bag (gotta have one if yer a gimp)

Now I can turn the page without putting down the book.

I once saw a complete collection of Scott's work in an antique store. People didn't buy them to read Rob Roy and Old Mortality. They were bought by disgusting people to decorate their bookshelves in the den. God forgive the benighted yuppie wretches.

Resistance is futile. You will all be assimilated.

Mark my words. The day will come when a book is something you jack into the port which has been surgically implanted in your mastoid process.

Books will be something for interior decorators.
Title: Re: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: Karsten on 28/05/2009 21:21:19
Mark my words. The day will come when a book is something you jack into the port which has been surgically implanted in your mastoid process.

Books will be something for interior decorators.

Unless our "civilization" collapses.
And hopefully some smart people will continue to make books of the material that is worth keeping accessible for a really long time.
Title: Re: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: Karsten on 30/05/2009 17:03:32
Oh no, my book's batteries died!
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Post by: Chemistry4me on 31/05/2009 01:14:40
I thought it was solar powered! [;D]
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Post by: Karsten on 31/05/2009 13:32:10
Now my book fell of the table and I seem to not be able to "open" it any longer.
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Post by: lyner on 01/06/2009 16:32:08
Don't be so clumsy then, you old Luddite!
It won't be long before they have plastic, bendy screens (even roll up ones). Then you'll have to shut up! But you'll be screaming cos you dropped 40 printed books on your foot.
I wouldn't mind betting that some people said reading and writing wouldn't catch on because they knew, off by heart, all the stories they would ever want to tell.
Do we really need to read, in any case? It may be just a passing fad.
Title: Re: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: MartinTheK on 05/06/2009 17:19:46
Could the naked scientist be made available in transcript form on my kindle ?
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Post by: JnA on 06/06/2009 02:37:47
Once upon a time they siad that computers would take over the world and we would be able to have paperless offices. The first part is almost correct.. but I am yet to see a true paperless office.

So it seems that even with the ebook readers available books won't be going anywhere soon.

Title: Re: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: Karsten on 06/06/2009 14:03:42
I will wait and see. If I look at many of the modern communication devices and how they are used I wonder how useful they really are. Too many seem to be a curse rather than a blessing when it comes to becoming distracted or distracting others. And at times this includes even this website. I have heard impressive reports from relatives regarding e-readers. The books I am interested in though are not popular enough to be available in this form or are too old.

Do we really need to read, in any case? It may be just a passing fad.

Indeed, if the spelling and writing abilities of our younger generations deteriorate much further, reading may become rather unpopular because it is so difficult to understand what is written.

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Post by: chris on 07/06/2009 10:15:11
Could the naked scientist be made available in transcript form on my kindle ?

That's a great idea, Martin, but what format would the material need to be in? How do you upload material to your kindle?

Chris

Chris
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Post by: RD on 07/06/2009 14:50:30
Q. Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing ?

A. Have you ever tried swatting a wasp with a laptop ?   [:)]
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Post by: Karsten on 07/06/2009 18:18:15
Q. Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing ?

A. Have you ever tried swatting a wasp with a laptop ?   [:)]

Or tried to make/fuel a fire with one?
Title: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: lyner on 08/06/2009 15:17:31
If you swap a wasp with a paperback you will break BOTH their spines.
(And I realise that a wasp is an invertebrated but inaccuracy is necessary for the purposes of the joke).

About 25 (at least( years ago I saw a demo of a 'tablet' style of ruggedised computer which the man threw on the floor and it still worked. Wasps watch out.
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Post by: Bored chemist on 08/06/2009 18:36:49
25 years ago it probably had less processing power than the wasp.
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Post by: lyner on 09/06/2009 11:41:25
I think modern PCs are similar in that respect.

Ink on paper can only be a passing fashion, I'm sure. It's had a good few milennia and it's about time for a change.
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Post by: Madidus_Scientia on 09/06/2009 18:23:40
A screen that seems just like a page of paper that you can just fold up and put in your pocket is what I look forward to :)
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Post by: chris on 13/06/2009 15:34:31
Here's a question.

Would you be as happy with an autograph signed by your hero that was on an e-ink platform, or would you value more the handwritten equivalent on a piece of paper?

Chris
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Post by: lyner on 14/06/2009 10:07:31

Chris

I have a CD full of the above.

I keep it under my pillow.
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Post by: MartinTheK on 19/06/2009 17:23:54
Chris asked about what format would be used to upload the naked scientist to be made available on my kindle.

Amazon lets you upload files in several common text formats and for $0.10 they will convert it to Kindle speak and return it to your reader by wi-fi as if you had purchased it from the store. They also have newspapers and magazines available, but I haven'yt bought any.

I uploaded a big selection of Stephen Leacock books frrom Project Gutenberg, but amazon would not convert them because they were being prissy about the possible copyright of the illuustrations - even tthough Gutenberg had no problem.

Illustrations can be a problem. I just finished "The Steel Wave" by Jeff Shaara. You need better eyes than mine to appreciate the map of the Falaise pocket (for instance) in case they haen't made clear enough in the text that Montgomery was a ninny.

I am thinking of uploading some salacious texts to kindle and see what they would do if I tried to make it an e- dirty book reader
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Post by: chris on 19/06/2009 18:07:35
...then that would be a "dirt-e-book" reader surely?
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Post by: Make it Lady on 20/06/2009 00:18:05
I have bought an e-book reader. I have books cluttering up my house and taking up room that I really don't have. When I go on holiday I buy several books as I get though a fare few and I also start reading some and decide that they are not for me after the first chapter. This means I have to take a big suitcase. Sometime I still run out of reading material. I bought my e-reader because I thought this will be the answer. I do like it. It is lighter to hold up in bed, the screen has that book quality, I can store a whole library of books in it, the pages are easy to turn and I don't need a book mark. Sadly there is one down side. A real book doesn't run out of charge at the most exciting part. I'm not very good at remembering to plug the bloody thing in so this is the one area that ruins it for me. Blow the smell of a real book, the touch and the front cover. I just want a page turner that doesn't blank out.
Title: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: MartinTheK on 25/06/2009 20:11:56
How very true Madam!

I, myself, have longed for a tall, nasty redhead to turn my pages for many years, but this damned culture has ruined so many of life's innocent pleasures (sigh)

On a brighter note, I see that Sony is coming out with a household robot helpmate. While it may not have red hair and silk gauze pantaloons (yet)- perhaps it can be trained to keep the ebook reader topped up and ready. Perhaps it could even recite "The Lady of the Lake..

"Caledonia stern and wild! Meet nurse for a poetic child..
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Post by: Make it Lady on 25/06/2009 20:31:55
My cat is quite good at turning pages but sadly she eats them afterwards.
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Post by: MartinTheK on 26/06/2009 01:50:03
I wonder if your cat would enjoy "Space time for Springers" by the late Fritz Leiber?

You may find it here...

i carry your heart with me
by E. E. Cummings

i carry your heart with me(i carry it in
my heart)i am never without it(anywhere
i go you go,my dear; and whatever is done
by only me is your doing,my darling)
i fear
no fate(for you are my fate,my sweet)i want
no world(for beautiful you are my world,my true)
and it's you are whatever a moon has always meant
and whatever a sun will always sing is you

here is the deepest secret nobody knows
(here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
and the sky of the sky of a tree called life;which grows
higher than the soul can hope or mind can hide)
and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart

i carry your heart(i carry it in my heart)

Whoops! I had some e.e. cummings loaded on my clipboard. Rather than erase it, I will leave it to edify the naked scientists

Here is the link for space time for springers...

http://faculty.uca.edu/rnovy/Leiber--SpaceTime%20for%20Springers.htm
Title: Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?
Post by: analynsarte on 26/06/2009 06:43:52
"Will ebook readers replace traditional publishing?"

not at all i guess although the need will lessen but still books are important.
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