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Life Sciences => Plant Sciences, Zoology & Evolution => Topic started by: t4786 on 01/06/2009 12:37:07

Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: t4786 on 01/06/2009 12:37:07
After watching Extraterrestrials, I was wondering whether can a plant take in water from the top like collect it in a basin like this strange plant?

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PAGODA TREE
Distinguishing Features: Abundant carbon dioxide means the pagoda trees grow to more than half a mile tall. Cuplike crowns above the canopy collect rainwater to keep the uppermost limbs hydrated.
Closest Earth Cousin: Giant sequoias, but their growth is limited by the ability of the tree's vascular system to deliver water hundreds of feet up.

Is it possible for a plant or a tree to have a basin-like structure on the top of the plant to collect water? Won't the weight of the basin make the plant collapse? And if it's to not collapse what adaptations does it need?
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: Don_1 on 01/06/2009 13:10:31
There are many plants which do this of the order Bromeliaceae (the bromeliads).

See http://www.bsi.org/brom_info/what.html (http://www.bsi.org/brom_info/what.html)
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: t4786 on 01/06/2009 14:19:56
Hmm but they do not have trunks. like the plant in the picture
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: dentstudent on 01/06/2009 14:29:34
There may be some smaller plant species that channel water from rain etc towards their own stem and root system, but generally with the express intention of using through their roots, and where the water remains external to the plant. Since water is required for cation exchange in the soil which are then absorbed through the roots, there is little point in collecting it at the top of the tree where there is no exchange process - it just wouldn't be efficient or structurally advantageous, which may itself be the reason that there aren't any. Water is of course released from the top (in addition to other areas) as part of the transpiration cycle.
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: LeeE on 01/06/2009 15:02:24
...Abundant carbon dioxide means the pagoda trees grow to more than half a mile tall.

Half a mile tall?
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: Don_1 on 01/06/2009 15:20:50
...Abundant carbon dioxide means the pagoda trees grow to more than half a mile tall.

Half a mile tall?

This particular plant can only exist in the world of science fantasy. The real thing, the bromeliads, could not reach such dizzy heights. According to science fantasy, their nearest Earth relative would be the Sequoia.
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: dentstudent on 01/06/2009 17:02:40
According to science fantasy, their nearest Earth relative would be the Sequoia.
and that's pretty much all it is. There is absolutely nothing to link a sequoia with these SF plants, other than they are tall.
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: Don_1 on 02/06/2009 08:07:27
BTW LeeE, these plants, I think, according to science fantasy, are supposed to live in a CO2 rich atmosphere and trap lighter than air gases in their cells to help with their support. I guess they would float a bit like a helium filled balloon.

Perhaps we could try to GM the Runner Bean in this fashion. Then we could have a single bean which would be enough to feed a family of 4 for a week!
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: LeeE on 02/06/2009 22:30:08
Are there no winds on this fantasy planet?
Title: Plants that collect water on the top
Post by: Don_1 on 03/06/2009 15:43:41
Good question....... I have no idea.

Have a look at the web site http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/alien.html (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/alien.html), loads of weird things like this ugly sod.
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