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General Science => General Science => Topic started by: chris on 19/11/2005 12:07:01

Title: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: chris on 19/11/2005 12:07:01
The other day I was asked about the water softening devices that are often seen advertised in gadget magazines.

The item the person described is about 15 centimetres long, vaguely cylindrical, and about 3 centimetres in diameter. The accompanying instructions suggest that when clamped around the water main they will prevent pipes throughout the house from furring up due to limescale.

To my knowledge they contain no power source, but are supposed to operate "magnetically".

I'm very dubious about this, so I'm wondering if anyone else has one and can tell me what evidence the manufacturers claim for the effectiveness of this device, and the mechanism by which it is alleged to reduce water hardness ?

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 19/11/2005 12:31:39
Sounds like a Scam-o-matic to me
Title: Re: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: daveshorts on 19/11/2005 12:41:51
There is a whole 'magnetic' industry, apparently they will improve the fuel consumption of your car and various other exciting things, I would tend to agree with doc-beaver's interpretation however.
Title: Re: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: A Big Mug on 19/11/2005 17:29:16
Here in the States there was a company selling a magnetic device to help "prop you up" down south.  Supposed to be an alternative to Viagra.  The problem was that when you were floating in your pool you always tended to orient yourself to the north.
Title: Re: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: another_someone on 20/11/2005 11:54:24
Yep, tried one.

Subsequently bought salt based ion-exchange water softener for almost £1k.  I don't spend almost £1k if the other solution works.  I leave it to your imagination as to whether the magnetic system worked.
Title: Re: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: Simmer on 20/11/2005 22:16:15
quote:
Originally posted by another_someone

Yep, tried one.


and did it "prop you up down South"?
Title: Re: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: A Big Mug on 21/11/2005 15:19:44
quote:
Originally posted by Simmer

quote:
Originally posted by another_someone

Yep, tried one.


and did it "prop you up down South"?

I think so.  Once I get myself off the robot I will know for sure.
Title: Re: Magnetic Water Softeners
Post by: gsmollin on 26/11/2005 13:34:03
They make many claims, and magnetized water does have different properties than un-magnetized water, but, water has no remanent magnetic field, so those properties are forgotten after the water leaves the field. I don't believe that disolution of calcium or magnesium is affected by such a small magnetic field.

"F = ma, E = mc^2, and you can't push a string."