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Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: ...lets split up... on 03/05/2010 15:35:23
Hi, i've been looking on the net for mercury alloys but all i seem to find are amalgams. Is it possible to throw mercury into another molten metal (eg. iron, titanium) and let it cool into a alloy of the two? would mercury boil into a gas before they mix? And if possible what would the characteristics of the metal likely be?
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Bored chemist on 03/05/2010 17:11:09
Mercury alloys are called amalgams.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: lightarrow on 03/05/2010 19:08:03
Hi, i've been looking on the net for mercury alloys but all i seem to find are amalgams. Is it possible to throw mercury into another molten metal (eg. iron, titanium) and let it cool into a alloy of the two? would mercury boil into a gas before they mix? And if possible what would the characteristics of the metal likely be?
The fact Hg boils before it mixes with the other molten metal depends on the temperature so you don't need to try melting Hg with Cu because Cu melts at 1089°C at certainly at that temperature Hg boils off immediately. You can nontheless make an amalgam with Cu at lower temperatures.
If you want to melt the other metal you have to use lower m.p. metals, for example tin, and a big, closed container.
The properties of the amalgams, as any other alloy, depends on the composition. The one with silver (don't know the exact composition) it's used for teeths, for example and it's quite hard (or it wouldn't be of any use, of course...)
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: ...lets split up... on 17/08/2010 08:41:33
I was driving in the car the other day, and for some reason i thought of mercury alloys again. I was wondering, do you think it would work if you created something like a pressure cooker for metal? Where you could heat mercury but the pressure would keep the gas as a liquid, then you could heat it up with another metal with a higher melting point and when they are both liquid they can mix. Not sure how it would work when you cool it down.

I don't have any reason to want to make a mercury alloy, it just makes me wonder because of the difficulty in doing so, and what a titanium mercury alloy might look like.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: lightarrow on 17/08/2010 13:20:18
It is possible, but you don't really need that procedure: if mercury does form an amalgam with the metal X, then you mixes liquid mercury with a fine powder of that metal X and shake thoroughly, in case heating (in a close container!). They will make a solid alloy without melting (if mercury is in enough amount, the alloy however will be liquid); mercury here behaves as a solvent for the metal X.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Make it Lady on 24/08/2010 20:57:38
At last. Someone else fascinated by Mercury.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: lightarrow on 25/08/2010 14:26:04
Do you know how they covered with gold the churche's domes in Russia? Spreading a gold amalgam on them and letting mercury slowly vaporize. Unfortunately this was made by hand and a lot of those people who did it was poisoned.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Make it Lady on 26/08/2010 22:54:14
It is such a shame it is poisonous. It would be massively useful if it wasn't. How do you get around this?
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: lightarrow on 28/08/2010 19:55:45
It is such a shame it is poisonous. It would be massively useful if it wasn't. How do you get around this?
I've used only very little amounts and conserved the compounds formed in closed tubes.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Geezer on 29/08/2010 07:45:44
I think my dentist shoved a lot of it into my teeth.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Bored chemist on 29/08/2010 10:39:06
I think my dentist shoved a lot of it into my teeth.

Mine too.
Could explain a lot.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: lightarrow on 29/08/2010 12:53:57
I think my dentist shoved a lot of it into my teeth.

Mine too.
Could explain a lot.
For example?
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Bored chemist on 29/08/2010 15:04:36
I think my dentist shoved a lot of it into my teeth.

Mine too.
Could explain a lot.
For example?


It's a (bad) joke; mercury poisoning is associated with mental health problems.
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: lightarrow on 29/08/2010 20:58:57
I think my dentist shoved a lot of it into my teeth.

Mine too.
Could explain a lot.
For example?


It's a (bad) joke; mercury poisoning is associated with mental health problems.
HUh? [???] What did you say? 
[;D]
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Geezer on 30/08/2010 07:56:52
I think my dentist shoved a lot of it into my teeth.

Mine too.
Could explain a lot.

Fortunately, it didn't affect me in the slightest.

Merrup sqindo quiklop looby snfsheg. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Can you make a mercury alloy?
Post by: Don_1 on 03/09/2010 07:53:32
I think my dentist shoved a lot of it into my teeth.

Same here! I had so much mercury in my teeph, my head used to rise in hot weather!

I inadvertently phound a way to get rid of it all recently. Having a toophache, I dephided to remophe the ophending peg with a piephe of stwing tied to a door handle. They're right, it doephn't work, but the door rebounded and the handle smaphed me in the gob and knocked the lot out.

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