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Non Life Sciences => Technology => Topic started by: CZARCAR on 11/11/2010 11:31:55

Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: CZARCAR on 11/11/2010 11:31:55
woodstove is blazing uncontrolled & a roll of wet paper towels containing ~1/2 gal. water & in a sealed plastc bag is inserted into the firebox.stove has ceramic glass in door [not pyrex]
 will the stove [iron or steel] & or the glass crack & which should crack first?
 will the slow release of the water from the soaked roll avoid cracking due to the slow release of the steam?
in a current case, wet sheet of newspaper was placed into firebox twice. The first time the temp dropped & rose again so the door was reopened &  wet newspaper was again added. concern was over adding too much water initially & possibly damaging the stove. Should the water be added with the 1 wet roll or with the 2 newspapers @ 2 different times to better avoid stove damage?
thanx
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: peppercorn on 11/11/2010 13:02:42
Can't you just shut the air down?
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: CZARCAR on 11/11/2010 13:23:32
Can't you just shut the air down?
not necessarily with an EPA stove
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: peppercorn on 11/11/2010 13:42:17
EPA as in Environmental Protection Agency certified?
Who manufactures the stove?
What wood are you burning? Can you use greener wood?
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: CZARCAR on 11/11/2010 14:36:09
http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/62560/   link to actual event.......long read
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: SteveFish on 11/11/2010 15:56:45
CZARCAR:

In the actual event the guy admitted that he forgot to shut down the air intake, and the other posters mostly said that the stove didn't actually get too hot. If you have a wood stove that you can't control, it is either an antique, badly worn out, or was a "bargain." No air, no fire.

Steve
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: CZARCAR on 11/11/2010 18:22:41
CZARCAR:

In the actual event the guy admitted that he forgot to shut down the air intake, and the other posters mostly said that the stove didn't actually get too hot. If you have a wood stove that you can't control, it is either an antique, badly worn out, or was a "bargain." No air, no fire.

Steve
no air + no fire = gassified chamber just waiting to exlpode
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: SteveFish on 11/11/2010 21:11:56
No air + no fire + gassified chamber = no explosion. You could generate wood gas and mix it with the correct amount of air and get an explosion, but I have never even heard of an exploding wood heater. With my last 75K btu air-tight heater I used to shut down a roaring fire in the morning before going to work by closing the dampers, and then open them when I got home for it to start up again on its own. That was a good heater, it lasted 20 years.
Title: ?controlling an overfiring woodstove?
Post by: peppercorn on 12/11/2010 11:09:37
no air + no fire = gassified chamber just waiting to explode

If there's not enough air(O2) to make a complete burn (ie. lots of CO), where would the extra O2 for an explosion come from?
{Although I suppose with exactly the right chemistry - H, C, O, N, it might be theoretically possible}