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Title: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Zichichi on 26/09/2003 21:00:43
It can assert that many students are able to construct a flying disc; it's enough to know and to be able to use the rule: F = i l X B. In fact making to pass the current electrical to a magnetic field it would develop a force; it is able to raise and to travel a flying disc. Easy!, practically the momentum of electrons is transferred to the small boat. Moreover the disc can remain firm in a point and can turn around to itself calmly remaining in the same place. It's enough therefore a little: a system for the generation of the current, etc...........[:D]


still before feeling in TV that the Russians had sighted a UFO I already "had constructed" it.  [xx(]



Zichichi [;)]


nothing is created and nothing is destroyed
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Quantumcat on 27/09/2003 08:55:41
I have no idea what on earth you're going on about

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Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Zichichi on 28/09/2003 10:37:59
It's a sure system (all alive) in order to go on.



Zichichi

nothing is created and nothing is destroyed
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Exodus on 28/09/2003 14:13:34
did you put your italian through a computer translator? Man! i'm lost!

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Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Zichichi on 28/09/2003 22:35:02
You don't like my translator?
I have not found better.


Zichichi



nothing is created and nothing is destroyed
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Ians Daddy on 28/09/2003 23:55:53
Try this one.....

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/

Welcome to the forum.
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Post by: bezoar on 29/09/2003 06:33:57
Ronnie --
What a cool site.  Had no idea it existed.  I can have fun with this one.  Thanks.

Bezoar
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Post by: Ians Daddy on 29/09/2003 06:47:25
Most of my sub-contractors / installers are Mexican and some speak very little English. That website allows me to translate all of their labor and driving instructions into Spanish. I love it. It's very accurate and can be very fun.
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Zichichi on 29/09/2003 10:13:58
quote:
Originally posted by Ians Daddy

Try this one.....

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/

Welcome to the forum.



thanks I will try it


Zichichi

nothing is created and nothing is destroyed
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: genegenie on 06/10/2003 09:51:08
What a great site Ians Daddy! Shame it doesn't have Indonesian - I'm going there in a few weeks and I'm madly trying to learn as much as I can.
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Zichichi on 17/10/2003 22:44:51
quote:
Originally posted by Zichichi

It can assert that many students are able to construct a flying disc; it's enough to know and to be able to use the rule: F = i l X B. In fact making to pass the current electrical to a magnetic field it would develop a force; it is able to raise and to travel a flying disc. Easy!, practically the momentum of electrons is transferred to the small boat. Moreover the disc can remain firm in a point and can turn around to itself calmly remaining in the same place. It's enough therefore a little: a system for the generation of the current, etc...........[:D]


still before feeling in TV that the Russians had sighted a UFO I already "had constructed" it.  [xx(]




I add:
i=10A
B=1T also permanent magnets
l=1000m
F=10000N
F is a force that succeeds to raise also 1000 Kg.

Good bye!

Zichichi

nothing is created and nothing is destroyed
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: chris on 17/10/2003 22:57:49
Thanks for clearing that up Zichichi, I'll sleep easy from now on.

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: tweener on 21/10/2003 03:47:23
I wish I could follow this formula better. It sounds fascinating.  I hope "Good bye!" doesn't mean forever!

A while back I bought a book for my son called "Build your own Laser, Phaser, Ion Ray Gun and other space age projects"  I'm dying to try out some of the projects.  It has all sorts of "levitation" devices and really powerful lasers.  There's even one that is supposed to be able to melt metals from several hundred meters.

It's another hobby that I don't have time for, but it sure sounds fun to do stuff like that.

John

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Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: Ians Daddy on 21/10/2003 03:57:08
OOOH! I want a laser! I'm going to get that book. That does sound fun.
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Post by: tweener on 21/10/2003 15:44:18
It sounds fun, but the power supplies look like a real challenge.  And collimating the laser is quite intimidating.  Maybe someday...

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Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: chris on 21/10/2003 19:41:24
I bet the publishers of that book have taken out some hefty insurance indemnity. There'll be people taking more than just their eyes out if they get their DIY lasers working !

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: GlacierBlue on 26/11/2003 23:10:02
I bet the average DIY laser would consume a very small amount of power, but the amount on power required to melt metals in a relitivly short period of time would be enormous. I seem to remember that the USAF proposed a series of Star Wars satelites that would have been able to incinerate a warhead. The problem was that the satelite would have to spend months recharging before it could supply enough power to do it again.

If the multi-verse is a real construct then in some universe Im your God.
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Post by: tweener on 30/11/2003 01:26:44
The key to melting metal with a laser is to collimate the beam to a very small area.  That way it doesn't have to consume huge amounts of power, it just puts all it's power in a small area.  It really isn't hard to build high power electronics, you just have to be careful.

The "Star Wars" lasers (and other stuff) were truly high power, because they were aimed at melting quite a lot of metal in a relatively short time from a great distance away.  The real problem was more in the tracking and aiming than in the power generation.  Fascinating stuff.


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John
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Post by: GlacierBlue on 30/11/2003 20:21:51
Truely.... I thought that the power consumption and regeneration was a problem. Do we have any idea how much power a photovoltaic pannel can generate? I found an interesting web-page <a href="http://www.ecoworld.org/Home/articles2.cfm?TID=248">here</a> that explains why we don't see a lot of PV power generation on the market today. I would think that any satelite at GeoSyc orbit would have full time light at a much higher density. Another thing to ponder of course, is the use of super conductors for the wiring in the areas not directly in the sunlight. Interesting.

If the multi-verse is a real construct then in some universe Im your God.
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: tweener on 30/11/2003 23:53:28
I believe most of the big lasers in SDI were to be ground based.  The space based weapons were interceptor rockets.  PV energy would not be enough to run a laser that could damage a distant missile, and is hardly enough to run the comm gear and computers.  Nuclear energy is an option, but I don't know how seriously that was considered.  Mostly, the environmentalists won't allow it, but with classified military stuff, I guess they don't know about it. [:)]


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John
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Post by: GlacierBlue on 12/12/2003 22:53:44
It’s not only the environmentalists that wouldn't allow it. What would happen if a "dirty" satellite crashed into your backyard? Imagine what would happen if for some reason it was still actively producing power when it crashed? I think that it’s a pretty good idea to keep nuclear reactors out of space unless there is no chance they could ever fall back to earth.




If the multi-verse is a real construct then in some universe Im your God.
Title: Re: UFO?.......is a boy...
Post by: tweener on 14/12/2003 00:45:22
Actually, the biggest risk is on launch, and it is technically feasible to build a reactor such that reentry and a crash will not rupture the containment.  Once it is out in space, it is possible to guide the satellite to a good landing spot in most cases.  If not, the crash still won't rupture the containment vessel of the reactor.

No, I don't want it crashing in my back yard, but in some cases the risk is worth the return.


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John