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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: Alan McDougall on 13/02/2014 09:41:21

Title: Please look at this amazing video and comment?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 13/02/2014 09:41:21

Hi All

Please note I am not trying to promote Christianity or any other religious faith. This video and others of those of the healer in question left me baffled. Was this a case of the powerful placebo effect or something very odd and unexplainable.

I know that the "healings" TV evangelists are amongst the most fraudulent 'low Live's" one can ever have the displeasure of coming across.

However, I believe this video and others around the activities of this particular faith healer, TB Joshua of Nigeria, are worth looking at and debating.

Please have a look at it and comment?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Aakvj-HSKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Aakvj-HSKw)

Title: Re: Please look at this amazing video and comment?
Post by: RD on 13/02/2014 11:36:24

Quote from: youtube.com v=7Aakvj-HSKw

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It is possible for skin ulcers associated with diabetes to heal without medical intervention.
[ ulcerated skin healing is not a miracle , if he grew back an amputated foot then I'd be converted to Jeezus. ] 

The flies visible in the "before" image may actually be beneficial : fly larvae (aka maggots) can debride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debridement) wounds enabling them to heal ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggot_therapy

Chubby needs to take the advice of a dietician rather than a faith-healer if he wants to prevent/postpone amputation, i.e. adopt a diet which which will cause him to lose a couple of stone and keep his blood-sugar within normal range, ( high-blood-sugar  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperglycemia)makes tissue more susceptible to ulceration).

More on leg ulcers ... http://dermnetnz.org/site-age-specific/leg-ulcers.html (http://dermnetnz.org/site-age-specific/leg-ulcers.html)

Title: Re: Please look at this amazing video and comment?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 13/02/2014 13:26:37

Here is another more remarkable, look at it it is only some 2 minutes long worth watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ)

Title: Re: Please look at this amazing video and comment?
Post by: RD on 13/02/2014 15:04:15

Quote from: Alan McDougall on 13/02/2014 13:26:37

Here is another more remarkable, look at it it is only some 2 minutes long worth watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ)

Infectious tropical diseases can cause Lymphedema where the legs swell up with lymph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymph)atic fluid ...

Quote from: wikipedia.org / Lymphedema

In tropical areas of the world, a common cause of secondary lymphedema is filariasis (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs102/en/), a parasitic infection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphedema#Causes

Quote from: who.int

When lymphatic filariasis develops into chronic conditions, it leads to lymphoedema (tissue swelling) or elephantiasis (skin/tissue thickening) of limbs and hydrocele (fluid accumulation).

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs102/en/

Statistically a tropical infectious disease would be more probable than cancer in a 25 year old African.