Naked Science Forum
General Science => General Science => Topic started by: chris on 19/11/2016 09:39:32
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This week details emerged of a 14 year old girl who, before she died of cancer, won a landmark case to have herself cryogenically preserved indefinitely in the US, with the aim of being resuscitated and cured at a later date.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/18/cancer-girl-14-is-cryogenically-frozen-after-telling-judge-she-w/
So how does everyone here plan their exit, and does anyone else have similar plans?
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holy sh1t i didnt know this is even possible. Is this article true? If yes i want to be frozen too :D Its probably very expensive though.
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It's certainly possible to be frozen (as long as you have the £30,000 to spare), but successfully defrosting people is currently a stumbling block...
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Depends on the day before!
If I am working on an interesting problem that is likely to be solved within, say, a year or two of my resurrection, I'd like to buy a bucketful of enterprise shares, have a rest, and come back to enjoy the fruits of my investment.
However the thought of returning in say 50 or 100 years with no home, no clothes and no money, to a world that has either done quite well without me or been blown to hell by latter-day Trumpists, does not appeal at all.
Safe bet: leave my body to Chris's patients and students. High mileage but salvageable parts compatible with most vintage males. Lovely thought: the "other brain" could go on having sex for another 50 years!
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It's certainly possible to be frozen (as long as you have the £30,000 to spare), but successfully defrosting people is currently a stumbling block...
Well that is fine because in future it probably will be possible. But this is really crazy, i didnt know its actually possible, i thought its more of a work in progress.
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So how does everyone here plan their exit,
I doubt that "planning" ones exit usually turns out as planned. I am, of course, referring to the exit here and not what comes afterward. Now about what comes afterwards: As for the possibility that we will someday be technologically adapt enough to bring the dead back to life, I think it is highly unlikely. For the present, I'm wagering against it.
and does anyone else have similar plans?
Not me, I need a good sleep.................................
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I think it may well be in a hundred years time that these frozen bodies are used as a source of organ transplants or even just pet food
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... cryogenically preserved indefinitely in the US, with the aim of being resuscitated and cured at a later date.
If it becomes popular they'll need to add cryogenic-storage on comparison-shopping websites: otherwise the deep-frozen deceased will be a hostage-cicle :-
"Pay $$$$$ or granny gets defrosted".
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....High mileage but salvageable parts compatible with most vintage males. Lovely thought: the "other brain" could go on having sex for another 50 years!
I thought you might try to wear it out before you go! Lots of mileage left.
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Apparently you don't get your own freezer : Telegraph says 4 per tank (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/18/cancer-girl-14-is-cryogenically-frozen-after-telling-judge-she-w/) , Daily mail says 6 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3953068/The-frozen-tomb-Britain-s-frozen-teenager-Pictured-time-196C-cryo-tank-14-year-old-cancer-girl-laid-rest-alongside-FIVE-patients.html).
So moving granny to a new (cheaper) cryo-facility could be problematic.
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What inventive do future humans have to work out how to defrost the old worn out ones?
It's easier to make fresh new ones.
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It's certainly possible to be frozen (as long as you have the £30,000 to spare), but successfully defrosting people is currently a stumbling block...
It's not a proven science AFAIK, so you may well end up missing an eye or a leg by the time someone "defrosts" you.
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Whole body no, but sufficient parts to get DNA and stem cells.
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Whole body no, but sufficient parts to get DNA and stem cells.
But what would be point of that? Stem cells and DNA are entities that we have plenty of already, and the ready ability to make more. Therefore you would probably be a poor source specimen...
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I am an atheist and don't care what happens to my physical body after death, as far as I can see/care no matter how long one is frozen (not to mention our inability to unfreeze living tissue at this time) even if I were to be thawed out the "I" would not be there. Death is final, there is no coming back. The you (or me) is a product of your experiences (and DNA) and will not be saved.
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I am an atheist and don't care what happens to my physical body after death, as far as I can see/care no matter how long one is frozen (not to mention our inability to unfreeze living tissue at this time) even if I were to be thawed out the "I" would not be there. Death is final, there is no coming back. The you (or me) is a product of your experiences (and DNA) and will not be saved.
Your experiences are encoded in the connectivity (and possibly other characteristics) of the cells in your brain, so if the cryopreservation and subsequent recovery process retained every physiological detail, it would subjectively feel like waking up from anaesthetic. The chances that this could be achieved in practice seem remote, and would only be worth doing if the brain was healthy at preservation time.
I wouldn't do it in order to live in the future until it's been demonstrated to work successfully in humans - but otherwise I'd be happy to allow my body to be cryopreserved at death for research purposes - as long as that didn't involve trying to reanimate my brain; even if they got it going again, the chances it would function properly seem remote, and I wouldn't want to risk it.