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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: aetzbar on 03/10/2017 03:14:35

Title: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: aetzbar on 03/10/2017 03:14:35: We will give the name Cuby, to an iron cube of 5 * 5 * 5 cm
Cuby's passive energy Ep will be marked with 1
If Cuby moves, its kinetic energy Ek will be greater than 1

Physical formulas without the concept of Mass

Ek = Ep * (1 + v ^ 2)

There is no need for the concept of mass, enough to use energy
Kobe's passive energy on the moon will be 0.166
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: Kryptid on 03/10/2017 05:06:43: The cube will weigh less on the Moon than on Earth, but it will not have less mass. Weight and mass are not the same thing. Combine "Cuby" with an antimatter cube of iron of the same dimensions and you'll get about the same amount of energy release on the Moon as you would on Earth.
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: aetzbar on 03/10/2017 18:50:12: There is no need for literary concepts weight and mass,
These are not physical concepts, because they are not measured.
In physics there are two concepts that are measured, .... energy and time.
Of all the forms of energy, the special is passive energy.
We decided in agreement that Cuby's passive energy will be marked with 1
Therefore, the passive energy of an iron ball of 1000 cc is 8
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: Kryptid on 03/10/2017 21:46:05: Quote from: aetzbar on 03/10/2017 18:50:12
There is no need for literary concepts weight and mass,
These are not physical concepts, because they are not measured.
In physics there are two concepts that are measured, .... energy and time.
Of all the forms of energy, the special is passive energy.
We decided in agreement that Cuby's passive energy will be marked with 1
Therefore, the passive energy of an iron ball of 1000 cc is 8

Things don't magically become true because you repeat them a lot.
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: Bored chemist on 03/10/2017 21:48:08: Quote from: aetzbar on 03/10/2017 18:50:12
These are not physical concepts, because they are not measured.

Stop pretending that mass is not measured.
It just makes you look silly.
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 00:30:07: Can you provide guidelines for creating a matter meter?
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: Kryptid on 04/10/2017 01:37:26: Quote from: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 00:30:07
Can you provide guidelines for creating a matter meter?

An electron microscope. You can count the number of atoms you see.
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 07:20:09: I know it sounds strange, but a Matter Meter does not exist.
The matter is not quantified, and the person is not able to detect the amount of matter.

You will know how to choose the apple that has the largest amount of volume.
You will know to choose the apple, which has the greatest amount of passive energy.
(Very simple, according to the bent of the branch, on which the apple grew)
But, you will not know to choose, the apple that has the largest amount of matter..

Matter and mass do not belong to physics.
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: Bored chemist on 04/10/2017 07:51:53: Quote from: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 07:20:09
I know it sounds strange, but a Matter Meter does not exist.
It doesn't sound "strange", it sounds dishonest.
Because you have already been told that it does exist.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=71524.msg524329#msg524329

So, is it that you don't understand how to measure matter, or are you calling me a liar?
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 09:22:59: There are only 5 quantitative things that are measured.
Length, area, volume, time and energy.
The length meter is a simple ruler, and you know it
Space and volume is not necessary to measure, but can be measured.
Time can be measured with a watch, and you know it
Passive energy can be measured with a simple spring, and you know it too.

You claim that there is something more quantitative and measurable (the sixth thing)
Please describe him and his measuring instrument
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: Kryptid on 04/10/2017 16:39:32: Quote from: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 07:20:09
I know it sounds strange, but a Matter Meter does not exist.
The matter is not quantified, and the person is not able to detect the amount of matter.

You will know how to choose the apple that has the largest amount of volume.
You will know to choose the apple, which has the greatest amount of passive energy.
(Very simple, according to the bent of the branch, on which the apple grew)
But, you will not know to choose, the apple that has the largest amount of matter..

Matter and mass do not belong to physics.

I already told you how to tell. The apple with more atoms in it has more matter. Do you deny the existence of atoms?
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: Bored chemist on 04/10/2017 20:16:44: Quote from: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 09:22:59
There are only 5 quantitative things that are measured.
Why do you keep telling that lie?
Title: Re: Physical formulas without the concept of Mass
Post by: aetzbar on 04/10/2017 22:12:19: In science, the practical experiment determines truth or falsehood
There is a device for measuring length, there is a device for measuring time, and there is a device for measuring passive energy.
Passive energy and time are "two quantitative physical things"
Can you introduce a device that measures "a third quantitative physical thing?
The name of the third thing is not important - the measuring device is important.
You hear a revolution in physics, and it's not easy to accept.