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General Discussion & Feedback => Just Chat! => Topic started by: smart on 21/10/2017 13:32:49
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Hi,
I'm a bit bored theses days and lacking inspiration in my readings and research. I would like to get your input on anything you feel I should be aware of but is missing from my knowledge. How do you find my posts on this forum so far? I'm open to fair criticism and balanced perspectives.
Regards,
tk
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Can you list all of the conspiracy theories you believe in? No, I'm not going to turn this into a debate thread about conspiracies, I'm just curious.
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Can you list all of the conspiracy theories you believe in? No, I'm not going to turn this into a debate thread about conspiracies, I'm just curious.
Ok. Now I start to understand what you mean with the "conspiracy theory" mnemonic. ;)
You can see a listing of all the "conspiracy theories" I believe in here: http://www.isotoperesearch.ca/wiki/index.php?title=User:Etienne_Robillard/Research
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What do you think is meant by the word "evidence"?
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What do you think is meant by the word "evidence"?
another mnemonic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic
Cheap trick.
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What do you think is meant by the word "evidence"?
another mnemonic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic
Cheap trick.
Aha!
I see.
We can ask a question, but there's no reason to expect that you will provide an answer.
Perhaps you should have made that clear at the start.
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Aha!
I see.
We can ask a question, but there's no reason to expect that you will provide an answer.
Perhaps you should have made that clear at the start.
I was expecting people like you and @Kryptid to bring your usual circular logic into this thread.
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Aha!
I see.
We can ask a question, but there's no reason to expect that you will provide an answer.
Perhaps you should have made that clear at the start.
I was expecting people like you and @Kryptid to bring your usual circular logic into this thread.
Regardless of what you expected, could you just answer the question?
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Regardless of what you expected, could you just answer the question?
An "evidence" is an experimental observation of a phenomenon.
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Regardless of what you expected, could you just answer the question?
An "evidence" is an experimental observation of a phenomenon.
That's a good start.
Now, do you accept that science should be based on evidence?
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Regardless of what you expected, could you just answer the question?
An "evidence" is an experimental observation of a phenomenon.
That's a good start.
Now, do you accept that science should be based on evidence?
No. Science is not based on a mnemonic.
Science is based on experimentation and careful observations.
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Regardless of what you expected, could you just answer the question?
An "evidence" is an experimental observation of a phenomenon.
That's a good start.
Now, do you accept that science should be based on evidence?
No. Science is not based on a mnemonic.
Science is based on experimentation and careful observations.
Nobody but you was talking about mnemonics; they have nothing to do with evidence. It's perfectly possible to produce a mnemonic for stuff that's not "real".
https://thecompartments.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/shakespeare-mnemonics/
You introduced them more or less at random. Please don't reintroduce irrelevant stuff, just answer the question.
Do you think that science should be based on evidence?
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I was expecting people like you and @Kryptid to bring your usual circular logic into this thread.
How is asking a question circular reasoning?
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I was expecting people like you and @Kryptid to bring your usual circular logic into this thread.
How is asking a question circular reasoning?
Everything you and I do is wrong.
We asked questions.
Circular reasoning is wrong.
Therefore asking questions is circular reasoning.
:-)
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Nobody but you was talking about mnemonics; they have nothing to do with evidence. It's perfectly possible to produce a mnemonic for stuff that's not "real".
https://thecompartments.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/shakespeare-mnemonics/
You introduced them more or less at random. Please don't reintroduce irrelevant stuff, just answer the question.
Do you think that science should be based on evidence?
Yes.
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I was expecting people like you and @Kryptid to bring your usual circular logic into this thread.
How is asking a question circular reasoning?
Well?
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I was expecting people like you and @Kryptid to bring your usual circular logic into this thread.
How is asking a question circular reasoning?
Well?
You expect me to reason like a bot. In reality, the "conspiracy theory" label is a logical fallacy since its purpose is to manipulate your narratives in mnemonic circles.
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..... its purpose is to manipulate your narratives in mnemonic circles.
Ok, I’ll ask you your definition of mnemonic and mnemonic circles. You don’t appear to be using mnemonic in the same way as most people ie memory aid, in fact you seem to be using it in the same way you have suggested others are using the phrase ‘conspiracy theory’.
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Ok, I’ll ask you your definition of mnemonic and mnemonic circles. You don’t appear to be using mnemonic in the same way as most people ie memory aid, in fact you seem to be using it in the same way you have suggested others are using the phrase ‘conspiracy theory’.
Mnemonics are a concept of educational psychology. A mnemonic is simply a neuro-narrative for learning new informations. I assume a mnemonic circle is the same thing as a logical fallacy: Circular logic.
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OK, How do you think there is a link between a mnemonic like "every good boy deserves food" and evidence, such as the observation that OJ had blood on his hands when captured.
One of those is a mnemonic, the other is evidence and they are totally different.
Also, Roy G Biv isn't a narrative or evidence, but it's a mnemonic.
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I assume...
You know what they say about assuming...
Circular reasoning is when two or more premises are used to support each other. Premise A is used as support for premise B and premise B is used as support for premise A. The argument is self-contained without any actual reference to outside evidence. That's why it's a fallacy. The question I asked, "Can you list all of the conspiracy theories you believe in?" isn't circular reasoning because it isn't even an argument, let alone one that I tried to support in any way.
A conspiracy theory is just that, a theory about the existence of a conspiracy. You can consider the phrase "conspiracy theory" to be derogatory if you want to, but that doesn't make it a logical fallacy. If someone asks, "Is your child retarded?", you can be offended by the use of the word "retarded", but that doesn't make their question a logical fallacy (and it isn't).
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If someone asks, "Is your child retarded?", you can be offended by the use of the word "retarded", but that doesn't make their question a logical fallacy (and it isn't).
A mnemonic is just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over again without knowing what is the meaning
of the term. The "conspiracy theory" mnemonic (neuro-narrative) is meant to negatively influence learning just like the use of the term "retarded" is misleading.
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A mnemonic is just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over again without knowing what is the meaning
of the term. The "conspiracy theory" mnemonic (neuro-narrative) is meant to negatively influence learning just like the use of the term "retarded" is misleading.
That has nothing to do with the logical fallacy known as circular reasoning.
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A mnemonic is just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over again without knowing what is the meaning
of the term.
No, quite the opposite. Eg, you know what the meaning is of colours of the rainbow, even the details of the physical cause. A mnemonic, as pointed out by bored chemist, helps you remember what order they occur in.
One of the few circular mnemonics I know is the circle of fifths used to remember the sequence of musical key relationships.
You seem to be inventing a completely different usage which doesn’t make any logical connection to the original. Your misusagage is causing confusion.
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No, quite the opposite. Eg, you know what the meaning is of colours of the rainbow, even the details of the physical cause. A mnemonic, as pointed out by bored chemist, helps you remember what order they occur in.
One of the few circular mnemonics I know is the circle of fifths used to remember the sequence of musical key relationships.
You seem to be inventing a completely different usage which doesn’t make any logical connection to the original. Your misusagage is causing confusion.
I'm guessing that this is what he is referring to: http://omnithought.org/how-mnemonic-is-used-to-program-control-your-mind/2969 (http://omnithought.org/how-mnemonic-is-used-to-program-control-your-mind/2969)
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I'm guessing that this is what he is referring to: http://omnithought.org/how-mnemonic-is-used-to-program-control-your-mind/2969 (http://omnithought.org/how-mnemonic-is-used-to-program-control-your-mind/2969)
It is obvious that mainstream media is full of mnemonics to control our thoughts and repress freethinking. Climate change is just another one. A mnemonic does help to associate a narrative to a memory, but it directs our knowledge towards ignorance and deception.
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It is obvious that mainstream media is full of mnemonics to control our thoughts and repress freethinking
Stop misusing the word mnemonic.
It just makes you look foolish.
You may well have a point about the media, but your insistence on using the word badly will mean that nobody takes you seriously.
A mnemonic does help to associate a narrative to a memory, but it directs our knowledge towards ignorance and deception.
Plainly not true.
What ignorance and deception are we directed to by this
"Late college parties never persuade Samantha's European girls to dispense hospitality, even though you linger"?
How about "fat cows bend in angles"?
Those are real mnemonics and they don't do what you are pretending that mnemonics do.
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List of poorly understood mnemonics in mainstream media:
- "Chemtrails"
- "Conspiracy theory"
- "Climate change"
- "Global warming"
- "Terrorism"
- "Evidence"
- "Health"
- "Programming"
- "Research"
- "Theory"
- "Study"
- "Media"
- "Language"
- "Firmware"
- "School"
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Mnemonics are the intrinsic components of complex neuro-narratives used for "programming" the way we think of something. ;)
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OK, so we have established that you refuse to stop misusing the word "mnemonic".
That's not very helpful of you.