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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: alexanderbenjamin on 28/06/2018 00:06:29
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Just a quickie, I'm late for work already lol.
On May 3rd 2018, the Kilauea volcano on Hawaii's Big Island erupted from
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theplanetstoday.com
basically back it up.
Could it be that Jupiter and mars and maybe Jupiter Gravitational pull Incited the volcano to erupt?
Cheers
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Let me see if I can calculate just how strong of a pull we could feel from Mars and Jupiter under ideal circumstances.
The modern record for Mars' closest approach to Earth is about 55,760,000 kilometers. The mass of Mars is 6.4171 x 1023 kilograms. If we want to calculate how much force this exerts on a 75 kilogram person standing on Earth's surface, we can use the following equation:
F = G((m1m2)/r2)
where F = force (in newtons)
G = the gravitational constant
m1 = the mass of Mars (in kilograms)
m2 = the mass of the person (in kilograms)
and r = the distance of the person from Mars (in meters)
F = 6.674 x 10−11 N·kg–2·m2 ((6.4171 x 1023 kg)(75 kg)/(5.567 x 1010 m)2)
F = 6.674 x 10−11 ((4.812825 x 1025)/(3.0991489 x 1021))
F = 6.674 x 10−11 (15,229.505536)
F = 0.00000103643 N (1.05687778 x 10-7 kg)
So Mars will be pulling on this person with a force of 0.000000105687778 kilograms whereas the Earth is pulling on them with a force of 75 kilograms. This means that the Earth is pulling on that person 709.6 million times stronger than Mars is. Needless to say, Mars has a negligible pull on anything here on Earth. Now for Jupiter:
F = 6.674 x 10−11 N·kg–2·m2 ((1.8982 x 1027 kg)(75 kg)/(5.888 x 1011 m)2)
F = 6.674 x 10−11 ((1.42365 x 1029)/(3.4668544 x 1023))
F = 6.674 x 10−11 (410,646.031169)
F = 0.00002740651 N (2.79469 x 10-6 kg)
Although Jupiter's pull is stronger than that of Mars on Earth, it's still very, very small. Earth pulls on anything at its surface with 26.8 million times more force than Jupiter does. I think we can safely exclude them from having triggered any volcanic eruptions. The Sun and the Moon would have significantly stronger tidal effects on the Earth than any of the other planets.
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Copy and paste a bunch numbers doesn't disprove a thing. Try again Sir.
I'm laughing at the superior intellect you possess.
Its a theory and your attacks on me are weak and fruitless. yeah i'm talking to you Kryptid
can prove nor deny the theory.
I could say I escaped off a jayflight bound for area 51... disprove it.
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ok, lets lock this thread. I PREDICT and lock it at top.
it will stop erupting as soon as we leave mars gravitational pull. Jupiter started it
that date will be around 9/2/2018 or few days after.
the new earthquake and volcano threat will occur
6/05 2019 subsiding 7/15 2019 or a few days thereafter
and even worse conditions from
starting 7/6/2020 and subsiding 8/20/2020
yea lets talk gravitational pulls and geothermal gradient..
if we are not dead if Yellowstone blows.
check your history before you go off half cocked.
May god preserve us all if I am right.
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ABN
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Copy and paste a bunch numbers doesn't disprove a thing. Try again Sir.
I'm laughing at the superior intellect you possess.
Its a theory and your attacks on me are weak and fruitless. yeah i'm talking to you Kryptid
And yet I see nothing here describing what is wrong with my calculations.
I could say I escaped off a jayflight bound for area 51... disprove it.
I don't have to. It is up to you, as the person making the claim, to back up the claim.
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"predicting" a newsworthy earthquake will occur somewhere on Earth within in a particular month is no big deal.
It would be more difficult to pick a month where one did not occur, see ...
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/fact-sheet/how_often_do_earthquakes_occur
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Copy and paste a bunch numbers doesn't disprove a thing. Try again Sir.
I'm laughing at the superior intellect you possess.
Its a theory and your attacks on me are weak and fruitless. yeah i'm talking to you Kryptid
can prove nor deny the theory.
I could say I escaped off a jayflight bound for area 51... disprove it.
The straightforward (and accurate/appropriate) calculations kindly provided by Kryptid are not an attack your theory. They are a direct answer to your question:
Could it be that Jupiter and mars and maybe Jupiter Gravitational pull Incited the volcano to erupt?
Not only is the answer to your question a clear "no," but the calculations to back it up show why this cannot be the case.
Laughing at this demonstrates both ignorance and arrogance on your part. As this is the "New Theories" subforum, I'll cut you some slack, but seriously, if you don't want to test your hypotheses (not theories, really) against generally accepted science, why bother posting on a science forum?
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it will stop erupting as soon as we leave mars gravitational pull
I have some bad news for you - you never actually leave the gravitational pull of Mars.
As Isaac Newton showed, the gravitational attraction declines rapidly with distance, but never actually reaches zero.
If we want to calculate how much force this exerts on a 75 kilogram person standing on Earth's surface, we can use the following equation: F = G((m1m2)/r2)= 0.00000103643 N
The r2 in the equation proves that.
In technical terms, this is called the "inverse square law".
This force is far less than the force of a light breeze.
Not enough to set off (or stop) a volcano.
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wow you guys have no imagination what so ever. lol perfect
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I'm laughing at the superior intellect you possess.
That only seems fair.
I'm laughing at your inferior intellect.
and even worse conditions from
starting 7/6/2020 and subsiding 8/20/2020
We can wait + see.
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If even all planets were in line, it would be so nice. Also no effect aside from that "wow" when we inspire young astronomers.