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Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 21/04/2007 23:19:16
Time for a joke.
Actually a very short tale about experience in the medical profession.
You cannot find everything in textbooks, personal experience helps.


CASE 1
An anxious mother of a 4yr old boy phones
his young, recently specialized pediatrician:

"I'm worried for my son, doctor. He seems all
right but his pee is actually bright green!"

The young doctor reassures the lady, saying
that a urine analysis could be indicated if
this little problem persists in the next few
days.  Then he starts searching any possible
cause in handbooks and pathology texts getting
more and more confused between all the various
pigments and green substances...

CASE2
Same question to an old white-haired pediatrician.

He smiles on the phone, going on writing a recipe
for the little patient he just examined:
"There is no reason to worry, madam, your
kid had probably ...  "   [???]


Possible answers are welcome!   [;D]


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Title: Green urine
Post by: Seany on 21/04/2007 23:22:06
I don't seem to get it.. Are we meant to carry off from the dot dot dots?
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 21/04/2007 23:24:32
Hi SpeedySeany,

You simply have to report the solution of the green pee problem!

ikod  [^]
Title: Green urine
Post by: Seany on 21/04/2007 23:30:52
Oh bum.. That's hard!

OK. Case 2.

"There is no reason to worry, madam, probably your kid had just drunk some lime juice."
Title: Green urine
Post by: Seany on 21/04/2007 23:31:53
OR.. Case 2.

"There is no reason to worry, madam, probably your kid had just eaten some asparagus"
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 21/04/2007 23:35:03
Oh bum.. That's hard!

OK. Case 2.
"There is no reason to worry, madam, probably your kid had just drunk some lime juice."

OR.. Case 2.

"There is no reason to worry, madam, probably your kid had just eaten some asparagus"

No good. Neither lime juice or asparagus should be enough to turn your pee reeaaally green.

iko   [;D]
Title: Green urine
Post by: neilep on 21/04/2007 23:47:02
What about artificial food colorings  or certain medications ?

Hmmmmmmm..I luff the smell of asparagus wee !!...I actually thought asparagus could turn it green !!...perhaps if consumed in large quantities ?
Title: Green urine
Post by: lyner on 21/04/2007 23:47:49
You know it's not fair to take the piss from young children - it scars them for life.
Title: Green urine
Post by: neilep on 21/04/2007 23:48:53
You know it's not fair to take the piss from young children - it scars them for life.

LOL !!
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 21/04/2007 23:54:05

What about artificial food colorings  or certain medications ?


No medications or food colorings, at least in the story I had been told.

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(Good night)
Title: Green urine
Post by: Seany on 22/04/2007 00:04:09
You know it's not fair to take the piss from young children - it scars them for life.

What do you mean? Don't you just make them wee and take the sample?
Title: Green urine
Post by: elegantlywasted on 22/04/2007 13:49:01
Seany, to take the piss is to make fun of someone :)
Title: Green urine
Post by: neilep on 22/04/2007 14:00:35
Me so luffs Iko's Hypno thing !!
Title: Green urine
Post by: paul.fr on 22/04/2007 16:36:20
had he been eating green pea soup?

edit: oops i mean, she
Title: Green urine
Post by: neilep on 22/04/2007 17:08:30
Kryptonite radiation ?
Title: Green urine
Post by: neilep on 22/04/2007 17:09:02
Was the father The Jolly Green Giant ?
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 22/04/2007 18:10:40
Poor things! Me gonna help you.
Nothing related to cod liver oil!!!   [;D]

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ikoded few minutes ago  [^]
157posts in leuk.topic.
Far too many...
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 27/04/2007 23:29:39
Any more suggestion?

Come on, urine is yellow, we now know it:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=7484.0

so...if it turns green... [:o]

ikodit!
Title: Green urine
Post by: paul.fr on 27/04/2007 23:35:18
a sedative overdose?
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 27/04/2007 23:53:51
Why a sedative overdose?
A sedated child should start peeing green?
The answer might come from another topic in Med.

It is very important to know the basics of these simple things:
it is easy anatomy and shouldn't be restricted to nurses and docs.
You may simply save a life knowing how it works and what should be done.
Little kids swallow grapes or round objects frequently,
even little toys, and may choke to death in minutes.
You will have to ACT, quick.
Somebody else will call 911.
Little Big Seany IS fast.


...remember he was a 4 year old child.

ikomon' is not so difficult!
Title: Green urine
Post by: paul.fr on 28/04/2007 00:03:56
Why a sedative overdose?
A sedated child should start peeing green?


Dr Carole Foot, an intensive care specialist at Queensland's Prince Charles Hospital. Foot says urine can provide information about whether patients are taking certain medications or are being over-administered.

For example, propofol, a common sedative in critical care wards, turns urine pink if given in the right dose but green if patients are getting too much.
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 28/04/2007 00:11:56
Why a sedative overdose?
A sedated child should start peeing green?


Dr Carole Foot, an intensive care specialist at Queensland's Prince Charles Hospital. Foot says urine can provide information about whether patients are taking certain medications or are being over-administered.

For example, propofol, a common sedative in critical care wards, turns urine pink if given in the right dose but green if patients are getting too much.


Ops! I didn't know this.  Me too ignorant indeed!
No drugs in my story anyway, far more common...objects.
BTW, little boy was fine at home, not in a critical care ward!  [;)]

ikod

Title: Green urine
Post by: paul.fr on 28/04/2007 00:17:31
so the kid has swollowed something! oh i am useless at these type of things. i still can't see those magic eye things that seany keeps posting.

i need to go to bed to think, do i get a prize for my earlier answer? it's not about te winning it's all about the prize you know.
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 28/04/2007 00:29:28
so the kid has swollowed something! oh i am useless at these type of things. i still can't see those magic eye things that seany keeps posting.

i need to go to bed to think, do i get a prize for my earlier answer? it's not about te winning it's all about the prize you know.

Ok, that's your prize!
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Good night!

ikod [;D]
Title: Green urine
Post by: paul.fr on 28/04/2007 00:41:11
so the kid has swollowed something! oh i am useless at these type of things. i still can't see those magic eye things that seany keeps posting.

i need to go to bed to think, do i get a prize for my earlier answer? it's not about te winning it's all about the prize you know.

Ok, that's your price!
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Good night!

ikod [;D]

you are so kind. i could do with a new pen set!
Title: Green urine
Post by: Karen W. on 28/04/2007 02:30:27
Did the child suck on a marker or eat a marker or Easter egg dye! maybe chewed the felt out of an marker.
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 28/04/2007 11:56:25
Did the child suck on a marker or eat a marker or Easter egg dye! maybe chewed the felt out of an marker.

Good show Karen!

It happened even with the common ballpens;
they contain concentrated blue ink as well.
When they start drawing, kids love doing the
strangest things with pencils and felt-tips.
While they 'think' how to create artistic stuff,
some keep their tools in the mouth for hours...
Blue nontoxic ink gets swallowed, absorbed,
filtered and eliminated by the kidneys.

Blue + yellow = GREEN!  [;D]

ikod


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Title: Green urine
Post by: Negin -(Universe) on 07/05/2007 09:08:43
the child may have an internall kidney infection?????
Title: Green urine
Post by: Negin -(Universe) on 07/05/2007 09:09:35
OR, they may have swallowed green ink from their mother's pen set?????? 'yum yum'
Title: Green urine
Post by: Negin -(Universe) on 07/05/2007 09:11:00
oopsy too late, Karen already got the answer, i forgot to scroll up the page!!!
Title: Green urine
Post by: iko on 07/05/2007 09:49:46
Did the child suck on a marker or eat a marker or Easter egg dye! maybe chewed the felt out of an marker.

Good show Karen!

It happened even with the common ballpens;
they contain concentrated blue ink as well.
When they start drawing, kids love doing the
strangest things with pencils and felt-tips.
While they 'think' how to create artistic stuff,
some keep their tools in the mouth for hours...
Blue nontoxic ink gets swallowed, absorbed,
filtered and eliminated by the kidneys.

Blue + yellow = GREEN!  [;D]

ikod


No kidney infection.
No green ink: concentrated BLUE ink.
Blue + yellow = GREEN!  [;D]

ikod
Title: Green urine
Post by: Negin -(Universe) on 07/05/2007 14:51:03
i cant see the new posts on this section???
Title: Green urine
Post by: Negin -(Universe) on 07/05/2007 14:52:13
there seems to be 2 different sections for this topic??
Title: Green urine
Post by: Negin -(Universe) on 07/05/2007 15:03:12
ohh never mind i can access it now
Title: Green urine
Post by: Karen W. on 04/10/2007 19:57:20
Did the child suck on a marker or eat a marker or Easter egg dye! maybe chewed the felt out of an marker.

Good show Karen!

It happened even with the common ballpens;
they contain concentrated blue ink as well.
When they start drawing, kids love doing the
strangest things with pencils and felt-tips.
While they 'think' how to create artistic stuff,
some keep their tools in the mouth for hours...
Blue nontoxic ink gets swallowed, absorbed,
filtered and eliminated by the kidneys.

Blue + yellow = GREEN!  [;D]

ikod


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After all that I forgot to go back and check to see what it turned out to be,,LOL Thanks IKO! I did not know I was right! LOL You gave great hints~ to Paul!! LOL