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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: afksf1944 on 20/03/2019 21:17:13
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A black hole is formed as a result of constructive interference of existing strong magnetic waves/fields at a certain point in space. This results in a very strong magnetic field which can attract any thing and every thing in the vicinity.
Magnetic fields are very well known for playing an important part in energy transformation from one kind to another. When they are extremely strong, they play part in the transformation of energy to mass.
Therefore, a black hole is a factory for converting energy to mass and eventually producing new planets/galaxies/universe/creatures..etc.
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I'm going to have to say that this isn't even close to what a black hole is. I would highly recommend Kip S. Thorne's book "Black Holes & Time Warps", which gives both a historical and theoretical overview of black holes.
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A black hole is formed as a result of constructive interference of existing strong magnetic waves/fields at a certain point in space. This results in a very strong magnetic field which can attract any thing and every thing in the vicinity.
Magnetic fields are very well known for playing an important part in energy transformation from one kind to another. When they are extremely strong, they play part in the transformation of energy to mass.
Therefore, a black hole is a factory for converting energy to mass and eventually producing new planets/galaxies/universe/creatures..etc.
There are praps 8 kinds of blackholes. Kip Thorne's Einsteinian blackhole is one, it is in the category of faux blackholes (these exist in the mind). But i wont go into thems 8 here.
Electric & magnetic & charge fields (photaenos) might propagate at 5c in the nearfield, in which case they might be emitted by smaller blackholes. But i doubt that photaenos form blackholes or affect gravity.
But u are correct that blackholes are a factory for recycling energy & matter. BHs are one part of the creation process, they are the annihilation part, they annihilate free photons & photaenos, & they annihilate confined photons (ordinary matter). Conrad Ranzan explains in his Dynamic Steady State Universe pages.
Hencely BHs do not convert energy to mass, they convert mass to energy -- except that they dont, they convert mass to nothing -- its called nothing from something -- whereas creation (which happens not in BHs) is called something from nothing.
Forget about conservation of energy, & conservation of mass, these are concepts designed to amuse skoolkids, & work ok for skoolkid physics (eg marbles), but they dont work in the adult world of serious physics.
I dont know exactly when Kip lost his marbles.
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Is it possible for both, mass to energy and energy to mass conversion processes to be executed in a black hole depending on certain conditions and the main process is energy to mass conversion?.
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s it possible for both, mass to energy and energy to mass conversion processes to be executed in a black hole depending on certain conditions and the main process is energy to mass conversion?.
I think i was talking about mass to nothing & nothing to mass.
Energy to mass & mass to energy sounds like an E=mcc thing. But i think that Einsteinians are split on this.
Me myself i think that there is some kind of relationship tween a loss of mass giving some energy, & a gain of mass giving some loss of energy. And i rather think that this is more of an E=mcc/2 thing, or more correctly a (delta E)=(delta m)cc/2.
But i dont think that increasing an objects speed increases the object's mass (or vice versa). Einsteinians are split on this.
So whether some kind of creation of mass or delta mass happens in a black hole, ie in conjunction with a more powerfull annihilation of mass & delta mass, by virtue of a loss or gain of energy, praps so.
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Is it possible for both, mass to energy and energy to mass conversion processes to be executed in a black hole depending on certain conditions and the main process is energy to mass conversion?.
One could view Hawking radiation as exactly that: conversion of a black hole's mass into the energy of radiation. When two orbiting black holes merge, a significant amount of their mass is converted into the energy of gravitational waves.
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Electric & magnetic & charge fields (photaenos) might propagate at 5c in the nearfield
Now now.
You should know that you need to warn people that you are making this up as you go along, and it's not science.
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Electric & magnetic & charge fields (photaenos) might propagate at 5c in the nearfield
Now now. You should know that you need to warn people that you are making this up as you go along, and it's not science.
I did warn people. This was about 3 Nobels ago for me.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=75611.0
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This was about 3 Nobels ago for me.
With Thebox having come back, I have to admit that I would love to see a no holds-barred debate between him and mad aetherist as to which of them have the better ideas about reality. Both of them seem to think they are scientific geniuses despite how strongly they deny actual science.
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This was about 3 Nobels ago for me.
With Thebox having come back, I have to admit that I would love to see a no holds-barred debate between him and mad aetherist as to which of them have the better ideas about reality. Both of them seem to think they are scientific geniuses despite how strongly they deny actual science.
A skeptic of course denies bad science, by pointing out where it is wrong, & by pointing out better ideas.
Thebox might be better than me at pointing out wrongs, & i might be better re novel ideas re reality.
Anyhow its nice to have a partner that i can tag when groggy or when bored chemist lands a lucky punch.
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Electric & magnetic & charge fields (photaenos) might propagate at 5c in the nearfield
Now now. You should know that you need to warn people that you are making this up as you go along, and it's not science.
I did warn people. This was about 3 Nobels ago for me.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=75611.0
So, that's 3 entirely imaginary nobels then...
Well, nobody's disputing that you have a vivid imagination.
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when bored chemist lands a lucky punch.
It's not luck.
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With Thebox having come back, I have to admit that I would love to see a no holds-barred debate between him and mad aetherist as to which of them have the better ideas about reality. Both of them seem to think they are scientific geniuses despite how strongly they deny actual science.
That would be a great idea- on a creative writing site, rather than a science one.
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That would be a great idea- on a creative writing site, rather than a science one.
I have to admit that I'm easily entertained.
But back to the original topic, I'd also like to point out that light is not attracted to magnetic fields and as such a magnetic object like the one mentioned would not be black for that reason.
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That would be a great idea- on a creative writing site, rather than a science one.
I have to admit that I'm easily entertained. But back to the original topic, I'd also like to point out that light is not attracted to magnetic fields and as such a magnetic object like the one mentioned would not be black for that reason.
Light is a photon. A magnetic field is due to the photaeno outer half of a photon.
Photons annihilate aether & hencely have mass (or quasi mass if u like)(there possibly being a difference tween the action of mass propagating at c kmps versus static mass). Here i am talking about the inner half of the photon.
Likewise photaenos (the outer half of a photon) probly annihilate mass, in which case they too have mass (in which case the photon has a combined mass, but this might be moreso a combination of two different classes of mass if the photaeno annihilation is peculiar, which it probly is).
Anything with mass must attract everything else having mass, hencely photons attract photons, & em radiation attracts photons. But this is a silly useless law, because every quantum thing has mass.
I agree that a magnetic field is itself invisible to the eye. But i dont agree that a magnetic field doesnt attract light.
And i dont follow the logic then leading to the statement that a magnetic object would not be black. This probly follows from the idea that magnetism cant of itself create a black hole. But as i have here pointed out, magnetism has mass, & if it were possible to bottle magnetism up into a small enough & massive enough blob then it could give us a black hole. But that kind of thinking aint needed, because magnetism needs matter (eg electrons quarks etc), ie if u have lots of magnetism then u must have lots of matter.
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A magnetic field is due to the photaeno outer half of a photon.
That's just nonsense you made up.
Why post it on a science site?
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A magnetic field is due to the photaeno outer half of a photon.
That's just nonsense you made up. Why post it on a science site?
Of course i made it up. Thats what we do. I didnt find it.
I posted it because its the best theory that i have seen. I will be happy to adopt any better theory.
I am glad i joined naked scientists, i have learnt a lot from myself.
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I will be happy to adopt any better theory.
The current theory is better- it's based on actual science.
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Can I explain this better?.
Due to the very strong magnetic waves / fields in the black hole region some molecules / atoms get excited and by returning to normal state they emit photons which under the influence of magnetic forces get ‘’pumped’’ to the centre of the black hole and compressed as new borne mass. This process of excitation and pumping keeps repeating and increasing the black hole density and mass.
However, some molecules / atoms get stripped of their electrons and due to the magnetic effect split into alpha, beta and gamma radiation, thus forming other types of atoms / molecules which get ‘’pumped’’ to the centre of the black hole increasing the black hole density and mass.
The black hole gets denser and heavier and eventually produces new planets / galaxies / universe /plants and creatures …….etc.
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A black hole is formed as a result of constructive interference of existing strong magnetic waves/fields at a certain point in space. This results in a very strong magnetic field which can attract any thing and every thing in the vicinity.
Magnetic fields are very well known for playing an important part in energy transformation from one kind to another. When they are extremely strong, they play part in the transformation of energy to mass.
Therefore, a black hole is a factory for converting energy to mass and eventually producing new planets/galaxies/universe/creatures..etc.
BH = (a+b)Eⁿ / V = 4/3 pi r^3 / t
That simple ….