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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: AnkitaA on 20/06/2019 15:23:04

Title: Where does energy come from?
Post by: AnkitaA on 20/06/2019 15:23:04
Geoff asks:

"If all energy can't be destroyed but only transformed, where does it original come from?"

What do you think?
Title: Re: Where does energy come from?
Post by: syhprum on 20/06/2019 17:29:00
I think that the energy locked up in matter equates with the negative energy of gravity so that they add up to zero.
Title: Re: Where does energy come from?
Post by: evan_au on 21/06/2019 12:23:07
According to current theories, all the energy in the universe was present at the Big Bang.
- Baryonic matter was mostly Hydrogen, with some Helium
- The energy we use today came mostly from turning hydrogen into heavier elements in stars, plus gravity
- Uranium for fission comes from the end stage of this process, when neutron stars collide

Quote from: OP
all energy can't be destroyed but only transformed
However, an equally important factor is entropy, and it can't be created, but only degraded (in a closed system).

The Big Bang provided a low-entropy start to the universe, and entropy has been inexorably increasing since then.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
Title: Re: Where does energy come from?
Post by: jeffreyH on 21/06/2019 21:01:03
Energy is the mathematical concept used to model how the universe works. It comes in a variety of forms. The fact that energy is conserved can be initially derived from  Newton's laws of motion and inertia. Add in quantum mechanics and general relativity and you have a comprehensive way of modeling the world and the whole universe.

Studying the forms of energy and potential energy is a fascinating subject with some tough concepts underpinning it. Worth the effort in my opinion.
Title: Re: Where does energy come from?
Post by: yor_on on 24/06/2019 19:22:47
If energy is a coin of exchange then it should belong to transformations as it seems to me? If you're thinking of 'pure energy' then ?? A quark gluon plasma as just after a Big Bang? Temperature?

I would guess 'light' is the closest to it, presuming something able to 'pressure' it. At least if you go by the Big Bang.
Or just 'forces' ???
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Actually I don't know. It's like asking how the universe came to be, was it 'laws' that was its origin, or 'forces'. Or are they the same?