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Title: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 22/08/2019 11:05:23: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: Bored chemist on 22/08/2019 18:58:58: Do you mean through skin?
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 22/08/2019 23:32:40: Quote from: Bored chemist on 22/08/2019 18:58:58
Do you mean through skin?

No, without jeopardizing the integrity of skin.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: Bored chemist on 23/08/2019 13:11:35: Well, I can put on a pair of gloves, go into the lab and weigh out 5 grams of glucose.

What question are you trying to ask?
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 00:00:43: I don't understand what you are saying and why you don't understand what I am asking.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 01:06:22: Quote from: scientizscht on 22/08/2019 11:05:23
measuring glucose over skin?
Does not make sense.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 10:57:51: Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 01:06:22
Quote from: scientizscht on 22/08/2019 11:05:23
measuring glucose over skin?
Does not make sense.

Minimally invasive glucose monitoring?
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 11:40:32: Well, you can use urine testing.
That has nothing to do with skin and is therefore not an answer to the question you originally asked.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 13:22:51: Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 11:40:32
Well, you can use urine testing.
That has nothing to do with skin and is therefore not an answer to the question you originally asked.

Glucose in urine is not representative of glucose in he body.
You like games.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 13:43:23: Quote from: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 13:22:51
You like games.
Not really.
I just like it when people ask sensible questions.

Quote from: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 13:22:51
Glucose in urine is not representative of glucose in he body.
Well, if that was true, why would they measure it?
It's not a great indicator of blood glucose but it's non invasive.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 18:44:56: Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 13:43:23
Quote from: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 13:22:51
Glucose in urine is not representative of glucose in he body.
Well, if that was true, why would they measure it?
It's not a great indicator of blood glucose but it's non invasive.

They measure it for different reasons, to diagnose renal disease for example.
I am looking for non or minimally invasive ways to measure glucose that resembles the blood glucose.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 21:21:02: Quote from: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 18:44:56
I am looking for non or minimally invasive ways to measure glucose that resembles the blood glucose.
Then why didn't you say that on Thursday?

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how realistic it is to try to measure the glucose in blood without having a sensor in the blood.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 21:47:42: Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/08/2019 21:21:02
Quote from: scientizscht on 24/08/2019 18:44:56
I am looking for non or minimally invasive ways to measure glucose that resembles the blood glucose.
Then why didn't you say that on Thursday?

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how realistic it is to try to measure the glucose in blood without having a sensor in the blood.

Well there are numerous charlatans who have designed luxurious devices in photos and claim they do that. However I have not seen anything yet in my GP's office.

I wanted to know what is the latest state of the art.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: alancalverd on 24/08/2019 22:29:18: There is no truly noninvasive device considered suitable for clinical use at present.

There are various subcutaneous and percutaneous implants designed for continuous monitoring but they all have a limited functional life and require calibrating against a fingerprick, generally once per day or more often.

The problem is that even if we had a reliable noninvasive monitor, we don't have a reliable oral insulin, so you end up making at least one hole in the skin anyway.
Title: Re: What are the available methods of measuring glucose over skin?
Post by: scientizscht on 25/08/2019 11:39:59: Thanks but what has been tried and what are the obstacles?