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Title: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
Post by: melaniejs on 03/03/2020 11:53:39
Dan asks:

If my family and I are vaccinated, are we still at risk of getting the disease because of the anti-vaccine movement?

What do you think?
Title: Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
Post by: alancalverd on 03/03/2020 13:53:43
No. They might prosecute you for vaccinating your children, or lynch you for defying the Will of God, but they can't infect you with whatever you were vaccinated against.

The anti-vaccine movement is probably self-limiting, but why anyone would wish to have deformed grandchildren is beyond my comprehension.   
Title: Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
Post by: chris on 03/03/2020 17:30:29
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/03/2020 13:53:43
they can't infect you with whatever you were vaccinated against.

Regrettably, they potentially can. Not all vaccines work in everybody, or produce a long-term effect. In our laboratory, we are now regularly seeing mumps cases in previously-vaccinated individuals who presumably did not respond with a protective immune response to their MMR.

This is why herd immunity (whereby 95% of the population are vaccinated) is so important, because it suppresses circulation and provides umbrella protection for unvaccinated individuals (including kids under 1 who've not been vaccinated yet), and people like those I'm referring to with vaccine failure.

So by eschewing vaccination, these people are putting many more than just the unvaccinated at risk...
Title: Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
Post by: Bored chemist on 03/03/2020 21:33:32
In addition to that direct risk, the antivaxers are spreading the idea that evidence isn't important in decision making.
That may be a bigger risk to you than the infections.
Title: Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
Post by: chris on 03/03/2020 22:33:16
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/03/2020 21:33:32
In addition to that direct risk, the antivaxers are spreading the idea that evidence isn't important in decision making.
That may be a bigger risk to you than the infections.

Yes, well said.
Title: Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
Post by: alancalverd on 03/03/2020 22:50:09
Too late. That infection has already taken over the White House, apparently by popular acclaim.
Title: Re: If I am vaccinated, are anti-vaxers still putting me at risk?
Post by: profound on 05/04/2020 17:15:39
Quote from: chris on 03/03/2020 17:30:29
Quote from: alancalverd on 03/03/2020 13:53:43
they can't infect you with whatever you were vaccinated against.

Regrettably, they potentially can. Not all vaccines work in everybody, or produce a long-term effect. In our laboratory, we are now regularly seeing mumps cases in previously-vaccinated individuals who presumably did not respond with a protective immune response to their MMR.



Something wrong here. Everyone knows vaccines make you invincible.
So why should non-vaccinated people effect you? What are you scared of?

Are you the smoker who feels more secure if other people smoke too and forever offering cigarettes?