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Non Life Sciences => Physics, Astronomy & Cosmology => Topic started by: ron123456 on 29/12/2020 22:07:27

Title: How does the release of energy increase mass in some circumstances?
Post by: ron123456 on 29/12/2020 22:07:27

"By emitting an electrically charged W boson, the weak force changes the flavor of a quark, which causes a proton to change into a neutron, or vice versa"...."The mass of a neutron is slightly greater than the mass of a proton"....."Bosons carry energy." ....Then how does the release of this energy form more mass in this particular circumstance?....thx.....

Title: Re: How does the release of energy increase mass in some circumstances?
Post by: Kryptid on 30/12/2020 00:06:56

Protons can't transform into neutrons spontaneously. You'd have to have some source of extra mass (or energy) in order to allow such a change to take place. One such source could be an election, as in electron capture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture

Title: Re: How does the release of energy increase mass in some circumstances?
Post by: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 20:03:09

"Quantum mechanics states that among all the possible energy levels an electron can sit in the presence of a nucleus, there is one, which has THE MINIMAL energy. This energy level is called the ground state. So, even if atoms are in a very very called environment, QM prohibits electrons from falling to the nucleus."
I don't agree......They can temporarily from one upper level to the lower within the levels!..... Prohibition is like saying an electron can be simultaneously in two energy levels! ….I don't agree with statistical mechanics!.....But, that said, which again I'm more than most likely wrong, as usual!....I don't want to get sidetracked here ......My question here, is electron capture actually introduced?....

Title: Re: How does the release of energy increase mass in some circumstances?
Post by: Kryptid on 30/12/2020 20:56:07

Quote from: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 20:03:09

I don't agree

With what?

Quote from: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 20:03:09

.They can temporarily from one upper level to the lower within the levels!

I don't understand this sentence.

Quote from: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 20:03:09

Prohibition is like saying an electron can be simultaneously in two energy levels!

I don't see how that follows.

Quote from: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 20:03:09

I don't agree with statistical mechanics!

And what does that have to do with anything discussed here?

Quote from: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 20:03:09

My question here, is electron capture actually introduced?....

Introduced to what? It seems as though English isn't your first language, and that is making it difficult for me to understand you.

Title: Re: How does the release of energy increase mass in some circumstances?
Post by: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 21:35:23

"I don't agree"....I don't agree with an electron being in two energy levels simultaneously upon transition (stat mech, quant mech)….I personally believe that an electron can spiral down in-between levels like an antenna on a temporarily basis....Again, is electron capture actually introduced by physicists?....I don't know?

Title: Re: How does the release of energy increase mass in some circumstances?
Post by: Kryptid on 30/12/2020 21:46:43

Quote from: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 21:35:23

"I don't agree"....I don't agree with an electron being in two energy levels simultaneously upon transition (stat mech, quant mech)….I personally believe that an electron can spiral down in-between levels like an antenna on a temporarily basis....

Well that's too bad, because quantum mechanics is the model currently supported by the evidence.

Quote from: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 21:35:23

Again, is electron capture actually introduced by physicists?

Yes.

Title: Re: How does the release of energy increase mass in some circumstances?
Post by: ron123456 on 30/12/2020 21:52:19

Yeah...…..once again, I'm way off.....Thx again