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Title: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Curious Cat on 23/08/2021 14:52:28
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Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 23/08/2021 18:14:30
Why? E/specially up in the air.
Did Cordite really burn that much hotter? Or,
Did they make the barrel light/er, to reduce the weight and increase the ROF?
I shot off a full military box of 250 rounds 303 British loaded with cordite the load is a solid core and burns very dirty I noticed that a smoke trail followed the projectile for a couple of hundred meters. I'm not sure but I suspect that the cordite is corrosive to the barrel smokeless powder has replaced black powder and cordite with good reason.
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 23/08/2021 20:36:01
Thank U, JT.
Actually, Cordite was also a "smoke'less" propellant and it was the primer which was corrosive.
Smokeless does not mean smoke free but just less smoky, than BP.
Cordite was really hot, burning, which would wear the rifling, away, and produce a big muzzle flash.
Maybe that's why the SM/LEs had a full length stock, top and bottom.
Yes, I had a lee Enfield about 35 years ago it was an M.K. 3 made at Lithgow and I got the box of machine gun ammo from a friend I swapped him for a motorcycle helmet the ammo was on a canvas belt I think it was 250 rounds or maybe 300 that was the only experience I hade with cordite. The Enfield jungle carbine had a flash resister but the shorter barrel will produce a larger flash. The full wood on the rifles as for the function? I personally have fallen for the very versatile 308 win just like used in the SLR rifle 308 nato.
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 23/08/2021 21:28:23
I had a No.4. Did Ur LE's bolt keep popping open at the slightest excuse, too?
Mine was pretty tight it springs open if you lift the bolt when cocked. I like the Mouser action I have one now a Ruger hawkeye in 308 but I prefer my handgun shooting most especially metallic silhouette over 200 meters I use 357 and 44 mag.
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 23/08/2021 21:52:52
Er/r, surely U use the rifle for anything over 20m!?
The 308 is good for medium game out to 250 meters keeping it in point blank range 3 inch rise and drop. The handguns are just for fun.
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 27/08/2021 17:56:33
YES, (simply) because they used Cordite, which burns hot/ter!
Is that why.
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 27/08/2021 18:38:14
Hey, G'duy JT! Yes I'm pretty sure.
I'm not sure what you mean as I was referring to the 308 win that is modern powder.
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 27/08/2021 18:56:18
Oh I was referring to the .303.
I know that .308 and 7.62 NATO used IMR and probably ball powder now.
Out, for today. I better go to bed/sleep. It's like 04:00 over/down here!
Me to take care CC.
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 30/08/2021 20:23:03
I better go to bed/sleep. It's like 04:00 over/down here!
Howdy CC I forgot to ask you regarding your question does the Browning MG rest on an open breach. So do you mean on the last round does the bolt stay open?
Title: Re: Did the British WW2 .303 Browning MG really rest on an open breech?
Post by: Just thinking on 30/08/2021 23:59:27
But what I really don't understand is how long would an M1 let alone an M2 Carbine continue to work,
before U had to clean the gas system,
I see now what you're saying regarding the gas operated cycle system it is very important to only fire jacketed rounds as lead rounds will block up the port and fowl the operation it is a very difficult and a slow process to clear a blockage of lead from the gas port and chamber.