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Title: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 07/10/2021 16:24:08
Given gas prices have more than doubled, people are now using electric cars generated from gas, have the gas and oil producers got us at their mercy?
Title: Re: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: alancalverd on 07/10/2021 16:56:05
They always have had, since Margaret Thatcher destroyed the coal industry.
Title: Re: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: Bored chemist on 07/10/2021 19:23:04
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/10/2021 16:56:05
They always have had, since Margaret Thatcher destroyed the coal industry.
She also squandered our oil.
Title: Re: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: evan_au on 07/10/2021 21:52:03
Apparently, estimates of the atmospheric life of methane (natural gas) in the atmosphere have been updated to larger numbers over recent years. (I'm not sure why?)

So natural gas also looks like it is not as good as had previously hoped, from a global warming viewpoint.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_methane

Title: Re: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: alancalverd on 08/10/2021 20:21:35
Quote from: evan_au on 07/10/2021 21:52:03
Apparently, estimates of the atmospheric life of methane (natural gas) in the atmosphere have been updated to larger numbers over recent years. (I'm not sure why?)
Because you can't make a living by saying it isn't a problem, nor by saying it is an inexorable problem and we are all doomed.

"Corrected" figures are required to look worse. 
Title: Re: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 09/10/2021 00:33:45
Quote from: evan_au on 07/10/2021 21:52:03
Apparently, estimates of the atmospheric life of methane (natural gas) in the atmosphere have been updated to larger numbers over recent years. (I'm not sure why?)

So natural gas also looks like it is not as good as had previously hoped, from a global warming viewpoint.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_methane


Yep gas does have the quality of leading to spontaneous unforseen emissions.
Title: Re: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 09/10/2021 00:39:21
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/10/2021 16:56:05
They always have had, since Margaret Thatcher destroyed the coal industry.
And brought in market forces. And privatised rail, gas, electric. And ruined the housing. Why do you think that a cheap house costs you 120, 000 quid when you can build one for 40,000. And stole milk.
Title: Re: Can we not burn coal and oil?
Post by: Bored chemist on 09/10/2021 00:55:12
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/10/2021 00:39:21
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/10/2021 16:56:05
They always have had, since Margaret Thatcher destroyed the coal industry.
And brought in market forces. And privatised rail, gas, electric. And ruined the housing. Why do you think that a cheap house costs you 120, 000 quid when you can build one for 40,000. And stole milk.
Yep, and yet there are some folk still rooting for them.
Odd, isn't it?