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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Yahya A.Sharif on 05/04/2022 20:21:46
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Light occurs when electric current moves through a wire causing electrons to move from a higher position to its normal position in the atom emitting energy. So science believes this energy released is a photon but this not true an electron can not move at a sudden motion to give a quantum or photon this violates Einstein theory of relativity that nothing exceeds the speed of light " moving at a sudden is just an infinite speed". The electron moves from the higher position to its normal position at a fraction of the speed c making it impossible to emit a quantum.
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We already knew that quantum jumps weren't instant: https://www.quantamagazine.org/quantum-leaps-long-assumed-to-be-instantaneous-take-time-20190605/
By the way, I'm still waiting for your answer in your other thread.
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Light occurs when electric current moves through a wire causing electrons to move from a higher position to its normal position in the atom emitting energy. So science believes this energy released is a photon but this not true an electron can not move at a sudden motion to give a quantum or photon this violates Einstein theory of relativity that nothing exceeds the speed of light " moving at a sudden is just an infinite speed". The electron moves from the higher position to its normal position at a fraction of the speed c making it impossible to emit a quantum.
Nonsense.
The time taken for the electron to travel is about the same time as once cycle of the light produced.
Nobody ever said it was infinitely fast.
You made up that idea.
Kryptid and I are still waiting for you to answer questions in your earlier thread.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=84458.msg673775#msg673775
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We can detect photons, so they exist: https://spie.org/publications/fg08_p34_photon_detectors?SSO=1#:~:text=Photon%20detectors%20count%20photons%20of,Cu2O%2C%20etc.)
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We can detect photons, so they exist: https://spie.org/publications/fg08_p34_photon_detectors?SSO=1#:~:text=Photon%20detectors%20count%20photons%20of,Cu2O%2C%20etc.)
What I say do not necessarily to violate energy coming out of a light bulb electrons fall in the lower orbit in a graduate matter emitting energy waves not a single photon
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By the way, I'm still waiting for your answer in your other thread.
I tried to return to the thread but I can't remember the question.
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emitting energy waves
Those are called photons.
I tried to return to the thread but I can't remember the question.
Who wins in a pushing contest, a weak person or a strong person?
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The time taken for the electron to travel is about the same time as once cycle of the light produced.
How light is produced in quantum? if the energy released gradually " not at a sudden" the photon will not wait for gradual energy release to become a quantum.
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the photon will not wait for gradual energy release to become a quantum.
Says who?
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the photon will not wait for gradual energy release to become a quantum.
Says who?
I and I am right.
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I and I am right.
Actual experimental results say otherwise. I already showed you a photon detector. We have the technology to detect individual photons. I trust experimental results over what someone on the Internet says.
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I trust experimental results over what someone on the Internet says.
Then you do not want to hear what I say.
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Then you do not want to hear what I say.
Not if it is denialism, no.
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emitting energy waves
Those are called photons.
No.This is my own concept reply #4 how scientists call it photons?
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No.This is my own concept
If you claim that photons do not exist (which is what the title of this thread says), then that is denialism.
how scientists call it photons?
"Photo-" means light, so photons are the quanta of light.
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By the way, I'm still waiting for your answer in your other thread.
I tried to return to the thread but I can't remember the question.
I posted a link for you.
Here it is again.
Kryptid and I are still waiting for you to answer questions in your earlier thread.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=84458.msg673775#msg673775
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I am right.
You have been wrong about everything so far.
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We can detect photons, so they exist: https://spie.org/publications/fg08_p34_photon_detectors?SSO=1#:~:text=Photon%20detectors%20count%20photons%20of,Cu2O%2C%20etc.)
How scientists explain the results?
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We can detect photons, so they exist: https://spie.org/publications/fg08_p34_photon_detectors?SSO=1#:~:text=Photon%20detectors%20count%20photons%20of,Cu2O%2C%20etc.)
How scientists explain the results?
Scientists explain the results by accepting that photons exist.
They are real.
We have proof of them.
The question is why don't you believe that?
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You can see how photons are emitted is very wrong
No, I don't see it.
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Maxwell thought of space as an ether with substance where electromagnetic waves propagated. The current consensus is that all particles and forces interact through fields. Whether a photon interacts through a field, or is simply energy passing through the medium, the medium (or field) does not actually move substantially (follow) with the energy. Either way, it is most useful to think of the photon as as a thing moving with a speed, an idea that encompasses a model of energy in motion even though the photon may not be a thing.
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Whether a photon interacts through a field, or is simply energy passing through the medium, the medium (or field) does not actually move substantially (follow) with the energy.
A photon is not energy, a photon carries energy.
Either way, it is most useful to think of the photon as as a thing moving with a speed, an idea that encompasses a model of energy in motion even though the photon may not be a thing.
The photon isn't a thing?
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Whether a photon interacts through a field, or is simply energy passing through the medium, the medium (or field) does not actually move substantially (follow) with the energy.
A photon is not energy, a photon carries energy.
Either way, it is most useful to think of the photon as as a thing moving with a speed, an idea that encompasses a model of energy in motion even though the photon may not be a thing.
The photon isn't a thing?
Semantics...you could also say a wave in the ocean is not energy, but carries energy.
What ever term you want to use, we use it because it is useful.
It is useful to say a photon is energy and moves through space.
The actual structure of the photon would be the proper debate here.
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Semantics...you could also say a wave in the ocean is not energy, but carries energy.
And you would be correct.
But it would be very odd to say that someone is surfing on energy, wouldn't it?