Naked Science Forum
On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: set fair on 24/08/2022 00:59:04
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The fundamental constants and the laws of physics are just right for us. Our solar system populated with atypical planets and a moon, once said to be best explained as an observational error.
Add to that the surprising fact that we can understand the laws of nature, we who took 3.4 million years to get beyond a simple set of stone tools. Well OK, we haven't nailed the laws of nature but we have come a long way. And where did the laws of nature come from?
The anthropic principle works pretty well; there are many versions of it. I prefer one that uses the quantum-physics notion that an observer is an essential part of wave function collapse. It is more economical because then we don't need to be in a Goldylocks universe. The wave function of the big bang can only collapse to form a universe which gives rise to intelligent observers.
That deals with paragraph 1 and so far nothing new. I was watching Sabine Hossenfelder explaining, on you tube, that we discover rather than invent physics. It's what I had always assumed but it doesn't hurt to try and find an argument against. So we are here not just to be able to observe - which allowed the big bang's wave function to collapse but also to understand the laws of nature. In fact the laws and the fundamental constants came from our understanding. We don't, in fact discover physics, we invented it, we set the fundamental constants because they needed an intelligence to invent them. The wave function of the big bang had to collapse to a state where minds intelligent enough to come up with a physics which allows their own presence to evolve. The pretty thing about this is that it renders universe self contained. We created the universe which created us.
On the pessimistic side, our understanding of physics has not advanced a great deal in the last fifty years. (A sign of these times is a widening acceptance or at least willingness to entertain the many worlds hypothesis, despite it being intrinsically untestable.) Once we have something that we can call genuine artificial and conscious intelligence then our luck will run out, the coincidences which have kept us going so long will coincide no longer and the computers will finish the job.
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The wave function of the big bang can only collapse to form a universe which gives rise to intelligent observers.
No, that doesn't even make sense.
We don't, in fact discover physics, we invented it, we set the fundamental constants because they needed an intelligence to invent them.
That's absurd.
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The wave function of the big bang can only collapse to form a universe which gives rise to intelligent observers.
Can you please explain what you think a wave function is and how it describes the big bang?
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Why are we here? Because the fundamental constants have made it inevitable.
There has indeed been something of an expansion of mystical thinking among amateurs in recent years, and describing the many-worlds model as a hypothesis is, sadly, one common example, along with the notion of observers collapsing wavefunctions.
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The wave function of the big bang had to collapse to a state where minds intelligent enough to come up with a physics which allows their own presence to evolve. The pretty thing about this is that it renders universe self contained. We created the universe which created us.
This could be some explaination.
If before the big bang the universe was some Bose Einstein condensate (so some multiverse quantic universe), be able to understand with some free will (that comes form the outside of this condensate...) the insight of some part of the condensate, would make this condensate "explode" into his "parts".
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the anthropic principle...we set the fundamental constants because they needed an intelligence to invent them
It sounds like "we are the center of the universe", all over again.
I thought that started to be discarded about 400 years ago...
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I explain this in my latest book which I first published thirty years ago. The God that we know is a natural God and not a super natural God. It is the next Darwinian evolutionary step upward for higher man out of us. Our universe has a cycle time of 1088 billion years by a normalize time varying time clock. There has been infinity of universe before us. Most exist in chaos, some produce galaxies and planets, some produce simple life, some produce higher life and very, very few produce us. The Gods of man are products of man. They were produced by the universe. Thus we are a product of multi-dimensional physics..