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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Jimbee on 29/01/2023 02:34:36

Title: My 'Calculator' Discovery...
Post by: Jimbee on 29/01/2023 02:34:36
Been sharing this one for a long time too. And I think it bears repeating here too. Just to be clear, I think even irrational number have simple patterns. Yes, everyone knows they have predictable patterns. But I think there may even be a shortcut to the ones we know (consider my slide rule analogy below for that).

But anyways, without any further ado, I think I may have come upon a new discovery in mathematics (do we still make "discoveries" in math?). But first some background.

Anyways, I play around a lot with calculators. And I'm not ashamed to admit it either. You know you can learn a lot that way, believe it or not. And I have even shared some of these things with others on the internet in the past.

This next one is equally as bizarre as the rest. When you take the square root of .111111.... you get .3333333... naturally, since the square root of one-ninth is one-third. But one time, just as a lark, I thought I'd square root .11 alone. Then .111 (again, only three digits), etc.. Long story short, you get the following pattern: 0.33333333331666666666624999999998. As you can see, the .33333... pattern is followed by an intrusive 1666666... pattern, and a 2499999... pattern (leading ultimately to 25, presumably).

It happens with other numbers too. Take .44444... The square root of this repeating decimal is .66666..., two-thirds, naturally. But when you do the same thing, you get 0.66666666663333333333249999999996. A "333..." pattern emerges, and then again that "25" pattern.

It doesn't just happen with these. Consider .9999... That equals one, of course. But when you do the same, you get 0.99999999994999999999874999999994. Now, you get "5" and "75" as your hidden pattern.

Also odd, is that these patterns are "put off" until infinity. Which I guess is permissible, even if they are never part of the actual number.

What is the explanation for these strange patterns? Because personally, I think I have hit upon something big and (possibly) undiscovered. I think I may have also hit upon a simpler way of finding irrational numbers. (That is, if they show unique patterns too--just think of how the slide rule uses simple addition and subtraction to find multiplication. Think about it.)

And BTW, I don't think it is just a phenomenon found in calculators alone. the square root of .1 is 0.3162277... (note the "16" already there). In short, the pattern is already there, for all to see. It's clearly not a fluke.

I look forward to your supports and criticisms of this :) .
Title: Re: My 'Calculator' Discovery...
Post by: Bored chemist on 29/01/2023 10:38:51
You have discovered that calculators do not always get the right answer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-off_error
Title: Re: My 'Calculator' Discovery...
Post by: Jimbee on 29/01/2023 16:34:29
You have discovered that calculators do not always get the right answer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-off_error

I can't speak to that, because I don't know anything about how calculators work. But just in conclusion, and I'll leave it here for now, no, there seems more to it than just that. Because as I said

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And BTW, I don't think it is just a phenomenon found in calculators alone. the square root of .1 is 0.3162277... (note the "16" already there). In short, the pattern is already there, for all to see. It's clearly not a fluke.
Title: Re: My 'Calculator' Discovery...
Post by: Origin on 29/01/2023 17:33:39
Just to be clear, I think even irrational number have simple patterns.
You make a lot of claims but never seem to back them up with evidence.
Do you have evidence to back up this claim or are you just having more idle day dreams?
It doesn't just happen with these. Consider .9999... That equals one, of course. But when you do the same, you get 0.99999999994999999999874999999994. Now, you get "5" and "75" as your hidden pattern.
There is no hidden pattern.  You arbitrarily decided that there is some special significance with '49' and '749'.
 
And BTW, I don't think it is just a phenomenon found in calculators alone. the square root of .1 is 0.3162277... (note the "16" already there). In short, the pattern is already there, for all to see. It's clearly not a fluke.
There is no pattern, you are again arbitrarily decided that '16' has some special significance.
Title: Re: My 'Calculator' Discovery...
Post by: Zer0 on 28/03/2023 20:30:29
@Jim.

You good at Pattern Recognition?

Have you ever played around with Prime Numbers?

Ever thought about giving the Riemann Hypothesis a go?