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Title: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 11/11/2023 09:10:47
The genetic code of the universe encodes life and intelligence (compare the anthropic principle). The explanation for the emergence of intelligence can be achieved by going back to the origins of the cosmos. Our cosmos likely exists within a network of cosmoses, a model of which could be the microgrid of my TOE (Newest Quantum Gravity and Theory of Everything, TOE - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86332.0). Because subquark particles correspond to the structure of galaxy and the cosmos (the smallest ones) - (Structure of electrons, quarks and gluons; preon, preons - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86090.0), what lies deeper beneath them may correspond to a supercosmic structure. And there is a network there. It's possible it's a network of tunnels emerging from certain black holes. I should add that there are not an infinite number of cosmoses, but probably as many as there are galaxies in the cosmos, i.e., approximately 400 billion. Thus, the cosmoses form a network of interconnections, but they are not parallel cosmoses. Given these assumptions, we should go back to the beginnings of the first cosmos, from which the others began to form. According to my concept of ideomaterialism (The main philosophical opposition Idealism - Materialism, how to solve ? - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=87214.0), consciousness occupies half of reality, so some form of consciousness and intelligence may have participated in the formation of the first cosmos. This would explain the genetic code of the universe.

Gregory Podgorniak, Poland, year 2024
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: alancalverd on 11/11/2023 14:23:45
An infinite number of monkeys will eventually type out the complete works of Shakespeare. Or indeed any other literature that you consider significant.

An infinite universe will eventually produce a monkey, and you presumably consider monkeys like yourself to be significant.

No need for an external creator - it's an inevitable and transient excresence of lots of physics and chemistry happening for a long time.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/11/2023 15:49:46
probably initiated by a very highly developed
Probably not.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: paul cotter on 11/11/2023 17:33:49
Almost certainly not.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 11/11/2023 19:47:45
An infinite universe will eventually produce a monkey

What if the supercosmos is not infinite ?
As the analysis of my models of subquark matter and microgrid (see Structure of electrons, quarks and gluons; preon, preons - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86090.0 and Newest Quantum Gravity and Theory of Everything, TOE - https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=86332.0) indicates, the number of cosmoses can be estimated at about 400 billion, which is as many as there are galaxies in universe. If the number of universes were infinite, for example gravitons, would have to be infinitesimal and they certainly are not. I estimated their sizes logically, and based on these estimates, the number of universes should match the number of galaxies.

Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: Kryptid on 11/11/2023 21:04:11
This would explain the genetic code of the universe.

When was the Universe observed to have a genetic code?
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 11/11/2023 22:23:51
When was the Universe observed to have a genetic code?

This is just a metaphorical approach to certain problem.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: paul cotter on 12/11/2023 09:53:21
Then it is not science.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 13/11/2023 10:39:01
There is a network.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: Origin on 13/11/2023 12:28:56
The hypothesis I have presented may contain certain weakness.
I think the main weakness is that it is a wild assed guess that has no evidence to back it up and it is untestable. 
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: alancalverd on 13/11/2023 16:52:23
What if the supercosmos is not infinite ?
Then you would have to state what is outside it. For any number N < infinity you can determine the characteristics of  N + 1.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 14/11/2023 15:36:07
Then you would have to state what is outside it

Nothingness
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: alancalverd on 15/11/2023 20:03:31
Which makes expansion inevitable. If stuff inside has nonzero kinetic energy, stuff at the edges is more likely to move outwards (where there's more room and nothing to collide with) rather than inwards.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: set fair on 19/11/2023 20:53:29
If you think there is mystery in or to the anthropic principle, then you have misunderstood it. The anthropic principle removes the mystery of why creatures which can observe the universe exist. It doesn't imply that there is no creator, nor does it deny that something is behind inteligent life, it asserts that neither of these are nescessary and without them or anything similar it is not suprising that we are here and can observe and understand so much of the universe.

The idea that intelligent life from outside our universe created our universe is not new. It may well even predate our species.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: Bogie_smiles on 20/11/2023 00:53:20
The genetic code of the universe encodes life and intelligence (compare the anthropic principle). The explanation for the emergence of intelligence can be achieved by going back to the origins of the cosmos. Our cosmos was probably initiated by a very highly developed planetary culture from another cosmos. This would explain the genetic code of the universe.

Gregory Podgorniak, Poland, year 2023
That scenario about our cosmos being initiated by a source from a different and highly developed cosmos raises a question related to infinite regression, i.e. how did the first cosmos begin and how did it get any genetic codes?
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 20/11/2023 09:58:49
If you think there is mystery in or to the anthropic principle, then you have misunderstood it.

No, I understand it.




Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: Origin on 20/11/2023 13:43:32
I would even propose creating a new religion of Nothingness.
Is nothing sacred? ;D
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 20/11/2023 16:48:41
Is nothing sacred?

Yes it is.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: paul cotter on 20/11/2023 22:03:49
Nothing more need be said then.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 30/11/2023 09:00:10
If we were looking for an answer to the mystery of the anthropic principle, the first answer that comes to mind is a some form of intelligence.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 30/07/2025 20:09:54
Some cultures in cosmos can see other cosmoses.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: paul cotter on 30/07/2025 20:42:28
A "co-creator" cannot by definition be a sole creator. So if "Nothingness" is just a co-creator, then who or what are the other co-creator(s)?
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 03/08/2025 05:47:36
who or what are the other co-creator(s)?

Other cosmoses in network.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 03/09/2025 16:24:09
Thus, the basis for other cosmoses would be the first cosmos.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: paul cotter on 03/09/2025 18:49:05
I notice a lot of very late editing by the OP which renders comments by myself and others largely irrelevant. Not a good way to conduct any discussion.
Title: Re: Explanation of the mystery of the anthropic principle, universe, civilization
Post by: cpu68 on 03/09/2025 20:12:30
I notice a lot of very late editing by the OP which renders comments by myself and others largely irrelevant. Not a good way to conduct any discussion.

I very apologize for that, but I changed the concept in the first post and was forced to edit some of the later posts.