Naked Science Forum
On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Yahya A.Sharif on 24/03/2025 05:18:17
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What created God? How? Why?
"Deliberate" and "intentional", when applied to initiating an evolving process, imply an ulterior motive beyond merely the act of initiation. So why did God create an expanding universe with microwave background radiation that consists with a purely mechanical Big Bang, when It could have gone straight to the entropic conclusion?
Lack of reliable eyewitness accounts is the reason we do forensic science: we try to recreate an action from the observable consequences.
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could have been intentionally caused by a creator, such as God
Of course, you are right.
The genetic code of the universe encodes life and intelligence (compare the anthropic principle). The explanation for the emergence of intelligence can be achieved by going back to the origins of the cosmos. Our cosmos was created by God. This would explain the genetic code of the universe.
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Genesis assumes and asserts creation and design because it is the sales pitch for the Hebrew god. In a science forum I think we demand something more rigorous like logic or demonstration.
Never mind other people's lenses and prisms, start with the observed facts and never accept "don't know" as a statement of cause - it is a statement of ignorance (in the case of science) or worse (in the case of religion and politics).
What is the supposed destination, other than the heat death of the universe?
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I see no reason to assume He would be incapable of creating a second universe in the same manner as the first
Yes, it is very likely that God will create a new universe when the old one passes away
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Why?
If your god is omniscient, it can't be out of curiosity. If It is omnipotent, then why wait for this one to die - there's plenty of infinity out there to accommodate another.
For "very likely" substitute "absurd and illogical".
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If your god is omniscient, it can't be out of curiosity. If It is omnipotent, then why wait for this one to die - there's plenty of infinity out there to accommodate another.
What if God is not omniscient, omnipotent, and infinite? God may also have limited capabilities. Moreover, why should he create another one when he has enough to work with this one?
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The structure of God, or rather Gods, is as follows: Christ - the solar system, the Father - the galaxy, the Second Father also called the Holy Ghost - the universe.
I would add also that Christ may have an incarnation on our planet, the Father an incarnation in some form in the galaxy and the second Father an incarnation in some form in cosmos.
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Jesus Christ never claimed to be anything more than a teacher. There is no evidence to the contrary. And what of the other 17 known crucified saviour-gods born of virgins?
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It doesn't matter who or what might be. What is required is a testable predictive hypothesis wholly dependent on the axiomatic existence of whatever intelligent creator you wish to invoke.
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I don't think a testable predictive hypothesis is accessible, however science can still be applied.
Oxymoron. Science is all and only about creating and testing predictive hypotheses.
And whilst I have the floor, "fine tuning" implies an a posteriori action on a resilient substrate. The world exists as it is because if any of the critical parameters were otherwise, it would be different, so this is the only way it can be.
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Yes, the universe is unique
The one we inhabit may be, but we have no way of knowing it.
And you still haven't addressed the questions of what created your god, why it created the observable universe, and what was there beforehand. So, far from resolving a question that might be answerable about stuff we can see and feel, you have just added three unanswerable questions about something whose existence has not been demonstrated..
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A god, much like a human, possesses the desire to live, to be glorified, and to create and witness his creations.
Have you actually discussed this with a god, or are you just ascribing a shameful Trumpfian vanity to something you invented?
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How could you possibly revere and worship such a loathsome scumbag? Are you a Republican?
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Meaningless drivel and unworthy of the intelligence that billions of years of evolution has given you. To say nothing of your parents, who actually created you and taught you to think.