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Title: a - e, aren't they the "same"?
Post by: Eddie Mars on 30/06/2025 10:37:17
Hi,

a / e (letters, with their variants)  -  [~a] / [~e] (sounds, with their variants)


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A word changes somehow in whatever language
/plural (?), stress (?), grammatical case (?), ...

or

"goes into" a different language

and

so does

a / e (letters, with the variants)  -  [~a] / [~e] (sounds, with the variants).

And this is often.


Aryan
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Aryan

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A native speaker does not pay attention to that at all. IT IS SO NATURAL.

The problems come when that "SO NATURAL"-speaker
tries
to learn or study another languages.

Then ALL BECOMES SO ILLOGICAL.


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Gianni Rodari
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianni_Rodari

Il romanzo di Cipollino ("The Adventures of Cipollino, the Little Onion", 1951)

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Gelsomino nel paese dei bugiardi ("Gelsomino in the Country of Liars", 1958)

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Favole al telefono ("Telephone Tales", 1962)

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...

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the end
Title: Re: a - e, aren't they the "same"?
Post by: cpu68 on 30/06/2025 11:41:20
They are not the same, I am saying that though my english competences aren't very big, I am from Poland.
Title: Re: a - e, aren't they the "same"?
Post by: Eddie Mars on 30/06/2025 12:10:50
. . .

apple - jabłko (Polish) - яблоко [jabloko] (Russian)
 
/different languages

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/inside a language

German, especially Slavic languages, ...
/a - a with 2 dots above/, ...
Title: Re: a - e, aren't they the "same"?
Post by: Eddie Mars on 02/07/2025 07:03:28
When people speak (use) their language, they don't rationalise - they feel.

In other words, they don't think.

Of course, they convey rational thoughts "on a level above".

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A few remain rational through (all) the "layers".



Smooth operator

Someone talented at using verbal communication to get what they want from a situation, such as persuading someone.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Smooth%20operator


Sade - Smooth Operator - Official - 1984


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Leaving alone phonetics and orthography, English, in its logic and syntax, is a piece of cake.

/and leaving some mistakes aside
/like gerund (-ing) and present (active) participle (-ing)
/and
/the "adverbial" participle (-ing) - the second of two actions going together

/three -ing altogether

/Leaving (2)..., English is (1) a piece of cake.
/two actions go together (2) -second; (1) - first, main action

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gerund (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/gerund

... a verbal noun

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It is so simplified!
/that one sometimes feels uncomfortable

-ing(1)

-ing(2)

...
The vowel weakened in late Old English and the spelling with -g began 13c.-14c. among Anglo-Norman scribes who naturally confused it with -ing (1).
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=-ing

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Participles are active or passive, but that is swept under the carpet in English.

And

the past passive participle after have is the name (thing) of the state or action.

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Conditionals are the simplest. One doesn't even need "were" anymore.



The same is about conjunctive/subjunctive.

conjunctive (adj.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=conjunctive


subjunctive (n.)
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=subjunctive



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Ismo: A$$ Is The Most Complicated Word In The English Language

Title: Re: a - e, aren't they the "same"?
Post by: Bored chemist on 02/07/2025 16:40:11
Dear Addia Mers,
No.
Kind regards
Everybody.
Title: Re: a - e, aren't they the "same"?
Post by: Eddie Mars on 03/07/2025 10:50:00

Thank you kindly, Everybody.

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https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=87309.0#msg746316
...
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off
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/off


off (adverb)
direction (in most general terms)

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off (preposition)
place (in most general terms)

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out ...

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The thing is that in English
"directions" and "places" (, and ...) are worded, spelling and pronunciation,
in the same manner.

This is simplification.

For a native - it is alright;
for a foreigner - it is another story.

Foreigners, in general, are bad at developing feelings.
They are almost always rational.
 
But their kids become native.
/they develop feelings

assimilate (v.)
https://www.etymonline.com/word/assimilate


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pronounce - pronunciation

"a - e"    -   "ou - u"

Similar?! - Nooo!

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Title: Re: a - e, aren't they the "same"?
Post by: Eddie Mars on 03/07/2025 12:33:42

One lives in different environments (societies):

- close family: mother, father, siblings, ...;

- preschool;

- school from the 1st to the 4th grade - mixed;

- school from the 5th to the 8th or 10th separated;

 - university - mixed.

/guys give some time in service to society (army, hospitals, hospices, ... )
/before
/entering colleges/universities

That gives them some difference in age.


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