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Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 21/10/2003 13:15:04
In your question of the week forum, there is some information regarding goosebumps.I have a curious [seemingly useless] ability to produce goosebumps at will, regardless of external stimuli [ie temperature, fear, excitement etc] and it has always intrigued me. I have been led to believe that goosebumps are produced by an area of the brain that is reponsible for our instinctual/reflex behavior [the primative brain stem or medulla found at the base of the skull] and therefore should not be able to be controlled at will. I also have noticed that I am able to increase my pulse rate at will [without any change in physical exertion] which, I have observed, islinked to the my ability to produce goosebumps. Is this common/useful?
any ideas? I would be happy to discuss this further.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Quantumcat on 21/10/2003 13:25:30
That's freaky, if you're telling the truth.

I can squeeze a muscle inside my ear if that's interesting lol, useful for plane rides.

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Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 21/10/2003 13:58:35
Yes, telling the truth, this remarkable- [irony]- skill is real, just not sure how or why. Just thought it may interest someone from a research point of veiw.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tweener on 21/10/2003 15:51:06
I care.  It sounds very interesting.

When I was in college I was very much into meditation, and I could control all sorts of autonomic nervous system activities.  I never tried goose bumps except to stop them when I was cold (I could prevent shivering(sp?) also).

I've since lost the knack but would like to get back into it.

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Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 23/10/2003 10:28:14
Hi guys, still trying to get the hang of this forum thing,
I have been doing a little more research on controlling the autonomic system and have found that some poker players repress aspects of this system to avoid being read by other players,[poker-face] no-one describes how they do it exactly but I thought it may be related.
I have a further querie relating to this that I hope someone can offer some ideas. To increase my heart rate, as described in my opening question, I think I must be increasing the amount of adrenaline to my heart, if this is in fact what's happening, would it then theoretically be possible to control other glands at will, eg sweat?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: chris on 23/10/2003 10:54:49
In a nutshell, yes.

The sympathetic nervous system tunes everything up for action. It raises heart rate, dilates the pupils and the airways in your lungs, shuts down blood flow to the guts, diverts blood away from non-essential vascular beds and activates sweating.

The chemical messengers producing all of these effects are the catecholamines noradrenaline, and its derivative adrenaline. There are 2 sources of these transmitters. Sympathetic nerves secrete noradrenaline onto their target tissues (heart, lungs, blood vessel walls, eyes) except for sweat glands - the nerves supplying those use an alternative transmitter acetyl choline. The other source of catecholamines is the adrenal gland which makes adrenaline and nor adrenaline.

The thing is that the autonomic nervous system is known as-such because it is automatic. It normally lies beyond conscious control. That is not to say that with practice some people can reproduce some of the effects in an indirect sort of way. For instance I can make my heart rate go up and down by thinking about things that panic or excite me, or calming things to relax me. Embarassment makes us go red. These are indirect manifestations of mood. But you can't, for instance, voluntarily control the sizes of your pupils !

Now how you are managing to make patches of goose pimples I have no idea ! It is possible that there may be a mis-conection in your nervous system linking 2 things that shouldn't be linked and enabling you to do this, but it sounds rather unusual ?!

Tell us a bit more about it. How big is the path, how long does the effect last, does it resemble normal goose pimples ? Do you get goose pimples normally (i.e. when cold )?

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 23/10/2003 11:44:08
G'day Chris,
It is definitely a phsical process and requires no mental trigger. For example I can clearly distinguish this process from say creating saliva by thinking of food, it is definately not that. Whilst it sounds like a trivial party trick [and may well be] I am curious as to any wider implications it may uncover. It is a process I learned and practiced from a young age [god only knows why] and is physically related to two other processes that are harder to define as they have no physical manifestation like goosebumps. To answer your questions, yes I do experience goosebumps through normal external stimuli and as far as I can assertain they are in no way different to the ones I produce "manually" [for want of a better word]. Whist increasing my heart rate requires a similar physical process to producing the goosebumps, I can choose whether to switch them on or not. I am aware I may be begining to come across as a complete crackpot, but I assure you what I am describing is real and would love to understand it more.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: chris on 23/10/2003 12:08:25
Are they in a discrete patch, or generalised over the whole body ?

C

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 23/10/2003 12:43:28
All over the body, most visable on the arms as I have very fine hair there. There is no difference in appearance or quantity in them then if they were produced as a result of an external stimuli, cold, emotion etc.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 23/10/2003 12:52:02
.....also the effect lasts for as long as I want, although the intensity may waver and requires a high level of concentration.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: chris on 23/10/2003 14:15:01
Amazing - can you get some photographs ?

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 23/10/2003 15:34:34
Possibly, would that help make it clearer?  Ultimately it would just be a pic of an arm before and after goosebumps.
Just to clarify, from a scienticic point of view controling your sympathetic nervous system [except indirectly] should not be possible?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: chris on 23/10/2003 15:58:40
Not really. The autonomic nervous system takes care of 'housekeeping' processes that do not require conscious intervention - otherwise your circulation would collapse when you fell asleep !

That's not to say that you cannot learn to control some aspects of your autonomic function, indirectly, as you say.

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 23/10/2003 16:25:07
Mmmmmm. It seems I am no closer to understanding. Whist I am not a scientist this "goosebump effect" does not seem to be the result of an indirect stimuli ie. thinking cold thoughts etc, It is a physical act that seems to eminate from the area at the base of my skull. If I learn anything else about it I will let you know.

Thanks for your time Chris, love the site.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tweener on 23/10/2003 19:36:07
Yes, thanks Chris!  I'm enjoying this thread and others that you are contributing to!

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Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: bezoar on 23/10/2003 21:22:03
I'll bet you could produce goosebumps by hypnotic suggestion too.  Would this be an autonomic response or a (sub)conscious intervention?

Bezoar
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ylide on 25/10/2003 08:58:54
Many practitioners of arts like yoga or qi gong can do wacky things like slow their heart rates to abnormally low levels, pass things through their bodies that shouldnt pass, or generate heat in localized areas.  

I'm still pretty low on the rungs of my studies in biochemistry and physiology,  (that's for grad school, my nearly-completed undergrad degree is in plain ol' chemistry)  so I don't have a vast understanding of the mechanisms of these skills.  But I can tell you that I spent some time in years past studying qi gong and reiki, and I've seen people do some pretty amazing things to themselves and others.  I don't proclaim any of these things to be supernatural, but I do think that one can mess with biological functions of the body that are supposed to be "automatic."  

Some real research on the validity of holistic healing modalities would make for some kickass graduate thesis work.  If anyone's done any kind of studies that provide evidence either for or against various types of alternative medicine, I'd love to hear about it.



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Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: chris on 25/10/2003 12:22:39
So Jolyon,

what do you actually DO to make yourself have goos pimples ? Talk us through it.

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 25/10/2003 14:32:02
It is quite a subtle process so it is difficult to explain but I will attempt to. I have actually been trying to teach a friend to do it to understand it better [kinky??],  so far unsuccessfully.  What it feels like I am doing is tensing the muscles located about an inch below the base of my skull, but very very subtly as if I had a pea between my fingers and was pressing it carefully without squashing it. If the tensing is done in a particular way [which I am really at a loss to describe], it triggers waves of an electrical sensation which is generally a precursor to the goose bumps. These “waves” are quite specific in their movement and direction. They begin at the base of the skull just above the “muscle tensing “area then radiate outwards to my upper back and shoulders, then to my arms and finally my legs [most strongly at the front of my thighs]. It also moves around my head in a wave, like I was putting on a tracksuit hood [but no goose bumps manifest there as far as I can tell except on my neck]. I can increase the intensity of these waves, and therefore the goose bumps, by “pulsing” the neck area I described above but it requires concentration and the “electrical” feeling is not necessarily pleasant. A side effect of this process is an increased heart rate and an adrenaline feeling like I had just been frightened or shocked. I can also create this “adrenaline” feeling independently of the goose bumps but again trying to describe how is tricky and beyond my understanding. Like CANNABINOID I also don’t believe it is a “supernatural” process, it is definitely physiological. I don’t practice yoga or meditate and have a healthy scepticism for many [not all] spiritual practices, but I am pretty in tune with my body and surroundings.  I hope this makes some sort of sense, there are so many other things I want ask which may be cleared up by this, for example I suffer from sleep apnia but do not have the general profile of someone who would normally suffer from this condition and wonder somewhere if my sympathetic nervous system [which I presume should control my breathing whilst asleep], is in some way getting mixed messages from my  conscious nervous system. [maybe I’m just a control freak!]
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tweener on 25/10/2003 16:23:41
quote:
Originally posted by cannabinoid

Many practitioners of arts like yoga or qi gong can do wacky things like slow their heart rates to abnormally low levels, pass things through their bodies that shouldnt pass, or generate heat in localized areas.  

I'm still pretty low on the rungs of my studies in biochemistry and physiology,  (that's for grad school, my nearly-completed undergrad degree is in plain ol' chemistry)  so I don't have a vast understanding of the mechanisms of these skills.  But I can tell you that I spent some time in years past studying qi gong and reiki, and I've seen people do some pretty amazing things to themselves and others.  I don't proclaim any of these things to be supernatural, but I do think that one can mess with biological functions of the body that are supposed to be "automatic."  

Some real research on the validity of holistic healing modalities would make for some kickass graduate thesis work.  If anyone's done any kind of studies that provide evidence either for or against various types of alternative medicine, I'd love to hear about it.



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I too believe in the ability to do many "strange" things that should not be controllable.  I don't believe they are supenatural, but I can't figure out how anyone is going to apply any "scientific" rigor to the study.  Many of these type of things are reproducible by an individual, but not by someone else.  Also, there is often no way to objectively measure the result.  Heartrate would be a notable exception.  

CannI hope you can devise some good studies for your upcoming graduate work.  Good luck!

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Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ians Daddy on 25/10/2003 19:03:38
quote:
Originally posted by Jolyon

If the tensing is done in a particular way [which I am really at a loss to describe], it triggers waves of an electrical sensation which is generally a precursor to the goose bumps. These “waves” are quite specific in their movement and direction. They begin at the base of the skull just above the “muscle tensing “area then radiate outwards to my upper back and shoulders, then to my arms and finally my legs [most strongly at the front of my thighs]. It also moves around my head in a wave, like I was putting on a tracksuit hood [but no goose bumps manifest there as far as I can tell except on my neck]. I can increase the intensity of these waves,]



Wow, That's almost erotic. It was good for me. Think I'll have a smoke.

Do these "waves" go anywhere else? If so, I'd never leave the house.[:p]

I know people who practice Tantric Yoga describe "waves". I wonder if these are related somehow.

Ouch, my neck is sore and I'm dizzy from trying this.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 26/10/2003 00:35:23
Hhehehehehehehehehehheheheheheheheheeh!!!!!! Now I understand why you are described as an ADVANCED MEMBER! Unfortunately, mine is merely a JUNIOR so I can't really help you out on the old tantric front. [sorry more dick jokes]. [:D]
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ians Daddy on 26/10/2003 03:22:08
Advanced, schmadvanced.....I'm just a "member". Don't let the "advanced" fool ya. I've disappointed more than a few. I married my wife because she couldn't read a ruler. We divorced when someone showed her what six inches realy was. [:)]
D!ck jokes are as contagious as yawns.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jolyon on 27/10/2003 19:06:49
Chris, [or anyone for that matter]
Any thoughts on the sleep apnia idea I raised earlier?  Or am I stabbing wildly in the dark without a knife?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: chris on 27/10/2003 22:39:58
Whilst breathing is an automatic process, upon which we can superimpose voluntary control, the pathways that control breathing are not part of the traditional 'autonomic nervous system' and originate from a respiratory centre in the brainstem. This centre integrates inputs from various sources including chemical receptors which continuously 'taste' the blood to tell how acidic it is and how much oxygen the blood is carrying, sensory receptors from the lungs that tell how inflated they are, sensory signals originating from your limbs that stimulate breathing when you exercise, autonomic inputs which boost the respiratory rate when you are frightened, and voluntary inputs that enable you to take big breaths when asked to do so by the doctor.

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Donnah on 27/10/2003 23:03:26
Jolyon, I think it's great that you can control goose bumps.  Bet if you practiced you could have some interesting extra-sensory experiences, or have you already?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: the_kizmet_zephyr on 17/11/2003 22:46:29
I came across this topic searching for others who are also able to control parts of their sympathetic nervous system.  I too am able to control my goosebumps...making them appear on a certain arm or leg or all of my limbs.  I can also make them go away at will.  I also can control my heart rate when I want to.  It is definitely a conscious effort.  I spoke with a college anat/phys professor at one time and she told me that only a handful of people are able to do this.  Apparently we are in the company of Yogis (sp) and such who can slow their heart rate and even change its rhythm.  With practice we are supposedly able to control our temperature and some other bodily functions which are normally not within our control.  This college prof. also suggested I be studied at a university because she thinks people like us may have the skill of telekinesis (moving objects with only your mind) Go figure...  It's kind of bizarre, who knows.  Basically I think we are just very in tune to ourselves, our thoughts, our feelings, especially our physical feelings.  My theory is that we are able to record a physical feeling, interpret it, and then sort of "replay it" at will.  It is a reminder of just how much control we truly have over our bodies and minds!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Mens Militis on 22/11/2003 11:05:50
I, like Cannabinoid, have studied the art of meditation, although I have never really gone deep enough to do much. The closest I could get is to increase my heart rate, but could never slow it down. However, I have known people who could which was proven by another counting their pulse. I believe that there are many things that we can do with our minds that have been repressed by the fears of religious superstition, and I would be greatly interested in studying this further.

In the case of the goosebumps, if, as Chris says, they can be triggered by thinking cold thoughts or such, which is a mental trick without actual stimuli, why couldn't they be brought on by mental concentration without the false stimuli?

I  can't explain the "waves" that Jolyon describes, but I too feel what I imagine is the same thing in one form of meditation that I do. It is very simple but helps to calm myself down before going to sleep. I will briefly explain the process so that you all can try it, and perhaps feel these waves yourself. The waves, however are controlled, in this form they do not voluntarily shoot across the body as with the goosebumps.

It is preferred that there be no noise in the room, but I use new age or relaxation music to help my concentration. You lay flat on your back on a bed or comfortable surface with legs straight and arms flat by your side. Let your head lay softly on a comfortable pillow (sometimes I use three pilows to support the sides of my head), but try to keep your body as flat as possible without using any muscles. Close your eyes and relax as completely as possible. Once your are comfortable, begin with one toe on a foot and concentrate on it, focus on relaxing it until you feel it tingle a little. Once it tingles, do all five toes, then up the foot, then continue slowly up the leg. Move from one area to the next only when the previous tingles always focus on relaxing that part (sometimes I even repeat "Relax" in my head as if commanding that body part). Once the one leg is done, move to the next and repeat the process. After the legs, move up the torso and chest, then do the arms up to the shoulder starting with fingers as with the legs and toes. Finally focus on your upper shoulders, then neck, then finally head and face. Usually by here, I am getting close to falling asleep. As you move from part to part, you can feel the tingling spread to each part as its being focused on. After completed, you can feel your whole body tingle, which feels very similar to me like the tingle you get before goosebumps.

This may take a little while to get right because it can take a lot of concentration. Any time a thought enters your head, just return to the body part and focus on it.

I get some really serious tension head aches to where I can actually feel the back of my neck spasm, and with this relaxation technique, I have learned how to control them, and even stop them at times.

Any how, just thought I would share this technique and perhaps allow you to demonstrate for yourselves how we believe that bodily functions can be controlled via concentration.

Mens Militis

"I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details" - Einstein
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Rick on 26/01/2005 04:23:12
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Jolyon,

I can also produce goosebumps at will.  I was curious about this "ability" so conducted an internet search on the topic.  This website was the first site that came up on the search results.  Unlike you, I can't control my pulse rate.  In order for me to produce the goosebumps, I have to close my eyes and concentrate slightly.  Each time that I do this, it creates a wave starting at my temples and flows to my legs.  It seems that the goosebumps only show up on my legs.  Please let me know if your experience is similar.
 
 
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Rick on 26/01/2005 04:33:32
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Jolyon,

I can also produce goosebumps at will.  I was interested in this "ability", so I conducted an internet search on the topic. However, I can't seem to control my pulse rate.  In order to produce the goosebumps, I have to close my eyes and concentrate slightly. Each time I do this, I can create waves at will that start at my temples and flow to my legs. The goosebumps normally only show up on my upper thigh. Please let me know if your experience is similar.

Thanks
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: superken on 20/06/2007 03:16:23
Is nice that you can control yourself anytime to have goosebumps, I can do the samething too. It was an old man teaching me from the way of breathing, so is more like a breathing skill, when I was teach by the old man, he said some can be already do it without teaching, some can be teach to have that effect, and which is, thats the first part of the breathing skill, you can probably get some history articles in chinese website, thats call 氣功. In a higher state of the breathing skill, you can control your body temputure, blood flow go faster, and heal yourself, and able to heal others with the skill. This is my msn,  superken2000@hotmail.com if you wanna know more about this.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: superken on 20/06/2007 03:20:01
And, you can do it by breathing, and not by breathing, also, you can do it with concentrate and not concentrate which is control your will at a normal state of your mind. Which is you can do it while you driving the car, or walking. Also my old man told man, if you were the kind that can control it, you have the will to do many different things which normal person cant do, in other words, this is a special type of genes in human body, or you can say is a 3rd generation of human.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: lanem on 06/08/2007 23:04:30
After searching the internet about this topic, this is the first time I've found something about it.  I have been able to produce goosebumps for as long as I can remember, since I was a child.  I can do it at will, standing outside in the Southern U.S. humid heat, without having to control breathing or tightening muscles.  Like Jolyon, they spread down in waves over my entire body, I even feel them on my face.       
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Kinesis on 21/08/2007 06:08:23
I too can control the flow of energy from the Medulla Oblongata to any part of my body I concentrate on. When I was a child, these waves of goosebump-causing electricity would occur spontaneously whenever I had mystical thoughts.

At first, they happened when I would watch a movie with mystical scenes or listen to certain choral music. Then they would happen when I would hear a raven or see an Irish landscape, etc. All things ancient and mystical could cause them. These spontaneous occurrences started when I was very young.

In time, I learned to produce them at will, and can now send them to any part of my body in intense degree if necessary. It is an ability that can be greatly developed with practice. Concentration is necessary, and I used to notice an increase in breath rate just afterward--but have now reached a point where I can do it without affecting breathing. I can do it with or without closing my eyes... indeed I am doing it while I type this.

These exercises do not have any adrenaline-like effect on me, though they do have an effect on my skin. Not only do I notice goosebumps in areas I'm sending energy to, but the skin becomes softer, more healthy in time. I am experimenting in healing sunburn with this technique.

Here's an interesting bit I just recently learned... my now-deceased paternal grandmother apparently could do it too. My aunt was telling me stories about her and said her mother used to judge a person's spiritual level by the 'goosebump affect' they had on her. So perhaps there's a hereditary element to this ability??? When she was on her death bed (multiple strokes, she was in her mid-nineties), I noticed how young and soft her skin was, but didn't make the connection at the time.

My sister and father don't have the ability. Nor do his siblings as far as I know (I've asked my father--and his sister, my aunt, would've mentioned it when she told the story I think).

I have a gut feeling that this ability, if developed and used wisely, can be used to heal. I can use it to will myself energy when I'm fatigued, though I haven't experienced long-lasting energy. I will keep developing this ability and will report back if any new developments occur. Meanwhile, if you wish to contact me about this, my email is tarmacfish@yahoo.com

-Steve

 
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Serious on 22/08/2007 15:09:34
I too can control goosebumps, and the feeling that occurs when they are created is exactly as Jolyn explained with the wave description. I have also noticed a unusual knack for controlling blood flow. I have not really tried to strengthen these abilities although I would love to have some suggestions on how to as well as what else I may be capable of doing.

Eagerly awaiting your responses

PS (Just to sound like a complete madman,although I promise what I say is the truth, I also have a tendency to pick up surface thoughts from people, those who also get goosebumps might like to give it a try, start out trying to pick a single digit number from someone, it takes  lack of concentration, you want to try to do it, but not think what the number is otherwise conscious suggestion takes over, just let anything wonder into your head it comes across as a fleeting suggestion)

also how many of those who display these abilities were born late feb early march?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Kinesis on 22/08/2007 18:12:01
I know when someone is thinking about me (no matter the distance). They just pop into my thoughts and I pick up the phone... and they invariably say, "I was just thinking about you!". This happens with people I haven't talked to in years as well as those I'm in frequent contact with. The only caveat is that I must have a real connection with them. In other words, I have to care about them and relate to them on some deeper level. I haven't yet developed the ability to pick up their individual thoughts, but that would be fun... maybe I'll try that next.

I don't have any experience with controlling my pulse, but I can tell you that the key to sending the 'goosebumps' to a specific region is concentration. Say you want to send the energy to your right big toe. You might practice curling the toe; flexing the toe muscles at the highest possible level; or focusing your attention acutely on the sensations coming from the toe (temperature, air flowing past the skin, etc).

This increases your capacity to really focus your will and consciousness upon that location. You will then realize that sending the 'goosebump' energy to that location is effortless. In the beginning, it may originate at the base of the skull and move in a wave down the body to that location... but it *will* make it to the location you desire and remain as long as you hold it there. Later, it will arrive almost instantly at the point you desire...

I haven't yet been able to send the energy into another person's body, but I'm working on it...

-Steve
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Prem on 31/08/2007 01:09:48
OK guys I'm new to this but I too can clear goose bumps but haven't progressed into "creating" them as of yet and any advise would be appreciated. But I also have some Ideas to what this is.
Firstly has any one here heard of nuero feedback, cause this is what I thought I was doing. Sure nuero feedback involves being aware of the brain's activity but what if that is what is happening and to quote one of you guys we are just "replaying" what our brain has done by it's self. I don't claim to be any kind of expert but any help would be great. Also for those of you who can "create" goose bumps could you help me with this.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Templer65 on 08/09/2007 17:54:37
Interesting to note that I am not the only one who can do this. Yes it seems a parlor trick. Its not a genetic thing thats for sure. I have been able to do this for as long as I can remember also, but neither my parents, brother or children are able to. I am also able to slow and raise my heart rate somewhat, but have limited practice at this (seems kind of scary to do it to long); and can "pop" my ears at will.  [:) Glad to see I am not the only one.

The goose bumps, for me, seem to be generated by a tensing method around the temples of my head, from there the goosebumps generated in waves down my shoulders to the arms, with prolonged effort(1-2 minutes) they progress to my legs (definitely the front of them) eventually my chest and back also.

Heat does not seem to be a variable as I can create them when I am cold or warm, even stop them. Walking home from work takes about 20 minutes and I can hold off goosebumps or even sweating for the duration with conscious thought. But if I am interrupted the sweating and natural cooling takes over and I have a harder time stopping it again. When I get home I stop trying to control it and let my body have its natural reactions, its over faster this way. And my shirts don't cling to me...lol.

Never tried to direct it to one part of my body but sure it works.

Clearing goosebumps to me is halting the tensing action. Try pushing/stimulating - usually begin with a positive/exciting emotional  thought.

Questions: When you go to sleep, do you go to sleep fast? and does your body react with the first dream. i.e I dream of stepping off a curb and my leg jerks waking me back up. (My spouse is then mad at me for falling asleep just seconds after our last conversation). Is there a connection?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Andrew K Fletcher on 20/09/2007 20:45:41
I just managed to get some shivers down my spine and my hair follicles are definitely on overdrive, got a chill all over my body and possibly an understanding of the process.

Occasionally we get scared, well not scared exactly but aware of something that we can’t see or touch, yet it is more than capable of sending shivers down the spine and inducing goose bumps. For example, my garden shed in the dark, we draw straws to see who is going to get the dogs tripe out of the freezer in the shed. Many times we can go in but on occasions you get the distinct feeling that someone or something is about to breath down your neck, you can almost feel the cold breath on the back of your neck and sense something unnatural standing behind you.

Now, doing what you suggested at the back of your neck sounds a little like what our imagination does to us when we are about to run like hell for no apparent reason other than something is breathing down our neck and about to whisper something we definitely don’t want to hear.

So it is possible to send a chill down the spine that could induce goose bumps and  equally possible to learn how to induce this sensation at will, which brings me to an interesting observation some 3 years ago while in a supermarket. My family have a fear of touching metal objects because we tend to discharge electricity that often causes a fairly audible cracking noise as the sparks leap from our fingertips. Not much fun for the girl at the check out till in the supermarket who receives an unpleasant jolt as the spark leaps to her fingers.  We put this down to static build up from the shopping trolley, but quickly realised it did not always relate to the supermarket.

While my son and I were happily discharging our unwanted volts to each other, I managed to zap him a good one. By all accounts this should have completely discharged me. I was not holding on to a trolley immediately after zapping him so did not expect to have any charge in my body. However, I felt a really weird sensation go up my spine and into the nape of my neck, like that cold chill we talked about earlier but this one made what little hair I have on my head stand to attention. Out of curiosity and possibly science, or sheer devilment more like, I lifted my finger up towards Jason’s ear, who incidentally didn’t flinch because he was confident that I could not have charged within 1 minute of zapping him previously. How wrong he was when a huge spark zapped from my fingers to his ear causing him to yell out. I have no doubt that this spark was sufficient to ignite a flammable liquid or gas.

Does this fit with your own experiences?

Andrew
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Michaelmoon on 28/09/2007 09:09:29
Nice to know we are not alone! Does anyone know of the yogi connection with this and other control of 'reflex'? I hope you all can let go of the control and let things happen when you want them to,
Cheers
Michael
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Seldin on 21/02/2008 01:54:15

I see it has been quite some time since someone last responded to this however I too share the covenet ability to control goosebumps at will. I discovered that certain thoughts would cause it sometime in the eighth grade although I didn't give it much thought. I didn't think about it further until the tenth grade when I realized that I could control the impulse without any other stimuli.

I started learning during the cold months where I would sit in the halls before class, shivering. Usually I waited before first period for about 20 minutes. First period was always the coldest; between that hallway and the classroom I was shaking. Perhaps seventy minutes a day of shivering is what led to my discovery for It was these long hours of shivering that I slowly gained a grip on the ability.

at present I'm 25, and I can consciously summon goosebumps at will. There seems to be no time that prevents me from doing it although some moments require more concentration than others. I can direct the sensation to any point that I desire however my ability to increase sensation in one area over another doesn't seem to have any visible appearance as of yet. Controlling the speed or intensity of the sensation is easy and can be demonstraited.

For me, the calling card is a subtle contraction of something inside my nasal cavity in an area just above my nose and between my eyebrows. The sensation occurs as if I am breathing in and contracting at the same time although I can do it whether breathing in or out it seems to be somewhat stronger on the inward breath. After I regulate my breathing I can even it out.

Before it happens I can feel a pull all over my body, I can generate this pull in the same manner as the goosebumps, this seems to be the predecessor of the stronger sensation before it is released. When the goosebumps finally turn on I feel a tingle or surge that flows from my back in a diamond pattern from where my neck meets my shoulders. The same thing occurs around my head and face, before reaching other areas. I can switch it on at a specific location, or one side of my body first and then the other.

The sensation can last for as long as I keep it up or until I experience a period of fatigue where I just can't call it anymore. I give the signal but it just wont go. This usually only happens if I surge intensely for a minute or two and burn myself out. After a moment of powering down I can turn it on again. If I steady the flow I can keep it going for a couple of hours so long as I don't lose concentration. The process is not usually painful or uncomfortable. I actually find it enjoyable, however, if I do it long enough or hard enough it does become uncomfortable and fatigued like a muscle burning sensation after a long workout.

Just for the record I can feel it everywhere, eyes, tongue, ears - even my gums and teeth feel tingly when I do this. This makes me wonder if something else is going on behind the scenes. Because things that don't have gooebumps still tingle.

I did make a video of myself controlling it so if anyone would like to view it I may post it.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Paramedic on 05/03/2008 15:29:44
I have the same thing. I have been able to do this all my life. I can cause a "fuzzy feeling" at the base of my skull/top of my neck that causes chills to radiate down my limbs and torso in waves. Within seconds it will cause goosebumps to stand out on my arm legs and chest. I can do this at will, regardless of temperature. I showed my wife once, and she thought it was a pretty stupid "ability", but humored me. She asked why I couldn't do something useful, like predict lotto numbers. Sigh. I once asked a MD about this, and they told me it was a form of self biofeedback.

Oddly, I have also been able to slow my pulse since I was about 15. I used to do it a doctor's offices to alarm the nurse taking my vitals. Especially if one came in after another and took the same vitals. I' drop my pulse from 85 to about 60 to mess with them. I know, cheap thrill.

I never put the two together. The goosebumps and the pulse. Being a paramedic, I've studied the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. I am familiar with ACH and norepinephrine production in the body. I guess this may be a way of either increasing the nor-epi production OR blocking the acetylcholine (ACH) release through semi-conscious effort. I have no other explanation.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: techmind on 08/03/2008 22:56:54
I remember seeing a documentary on TV a year or two ago about freedivers (people who dive to depths of up to 70m without any breathing apparatus). The world record is something like a 6-7minute dive I think, so they have to hold their breath that long. This is only possible by slowing their heart rate. They do this under conscious control, and on the program they had a freediver lying on a bed hooked up to a hospital heart rate monitor -I think he took it down to 15bpm or something daft. I think the machine was beeping like crazy!
The freediving is very risky - the people are right on the verge of blacking out.


On a slighly related topic when I was 18-ish I suddenly discovered how I could raise one eyebrow independently of the other. My mum thought it was cool! But a year or so later I "forgot" how to do it, and I certainly can't do it now. Weird.


I can relax my eye-focussing and let things go blurry at will (I don't think this ability is that common). This is something I learned while messing around with "autostereogram" 3D pictures when they were all the rage in the mid 1990's.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Seldin on 09/03/2008 04:50:33
Well, your eyes are in focus because of the focusing muscles around the eye. So if you were to relax those muscles your eyes would go out of focus. I can do this as well. I'm sure everyone can do it. Then again, if learned everyone could do the goosebump thing too. So just because everyone can do it doesn't mean its not an ability :)

The eyebrow trick is pretty cool, some people can move their ears. I do it naturally when I hear something just off to my side but I don't know how to do it conciously.

I once saw on Riply's Believe it or not, an 80 year old shaolin monk who could do a one handed pushup, upside down, on one finger. Not bad eh? of course he couldn't balance on his own but he sure could push.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: weisseraffe on 04/05/2008 06:03:29

Hi there!

Awesome that I found this because I can do these too (well, not so much the goosebumps).

As for my pulse rate, I can increase it by 75% - 85% seemingly spontaneously (from say, 14-15 beats in 15 seconds to about 27 beats in the next 15 seconds and then back down to 15 beats in the next 15 <and so on>).  I can slow my pulse too, but I have to focus more and it's less dramatic (about a 15-20 beats per minute decrease).

I can also make myself feel as if it were cold on the inside of my skin, which sometimes brings on goosebumps (although I don't seem to get them much for even normal reasons).  When this happens I mostly feel it in my back and inner shoulders.

I can do these without really doing any noticeable amount of tensing and without having to think about anything in particular. If I had to explain how I do this in detail, I would say... I can trigger a tingling sensation (without tensing) from right underneath my jaw where it meets my ears which spreads very quickly to inside my ears and then to my neck and chest, then shoulders and stomach.

OR! I can do it backwards starting in my chest and stomach and then on to my head and back.

It's as if I'm triggering something inside of my nervous system without it feeling like it's really there. To be abstract, I guess you could imagine having an independent lung that allows you to breath in (very lightly) through your nose and out through your mouth (lightly or not) at the same time.. You can't really do it, but it's almost as if you could imagine the sensation of doing it. Like wagging a tail that you don't have...

It seems as though I can control the intensity (not really explainable) and can also choose from a variety of related "perks" such as to either make myself feel cold, or even give myself a "phantom feeling" of my torso and/or arms and other parts.  What I mean by "phantom feeling" is that it genuinely feels as if I no longer have these parts attached and can feel nothing in those parts except for when pain is induced, and even then it's quite dull.  It's pretty much the same as how I would imagine paralysis would feel.

Directly after I stop doing this, it feels as if something cold was injected into my veins (I guess) and sometimes I'll even shiver involuntarily.

Another route I can take has almost the same effect however it numbs my thinking as well (it makes reality seem not so ..real I guess).  I can also make it feel as if I were pumping adrenaline into my own body and can use this method when I'm working out or running (or just walking around).  If I induce this adrenaline effect, I noticed I lose a large awareness of social restraint, meaning that I can stare someone in the eyes w/out having a feeling to look away (which I normally would have) and feel as if I could punch a tree and not have it hurt (but then I'd realize how stupid I was afterwards for actually punching it).  There is a downside to this, however, in that I usually have a headache in the front of my head and my body feels stressed out afterwards (although I'm not bearing down or actually flexing anything).

ALSO! I don't know if it's related or not, but I can make my ears hum loudly (for myself) and can make them.. vibrate or even pop but in a way that doesn't really hurt.. Related to this, I can make the muscles behind my eyes feel like they're being tickled? And make them shake very quickly, but only in short bursts (like a vibration) or can have them lose focus without crossing them or shifting field of vision.  Also, if it's dark enough that I can still see, I can make it so whatever I'm looking at goes even darker until it just blends into the background and then make it lighter again.  Is this normal?

More about controlling my pulse — yesterday I was bored and was doing the heart control thing while just sitting in a chair and after about 45 seconds I almost fainted (was very light headed and chilled feeling), and felt really weird throughout the rest of the day (like I was perpetually just getting over being startled). Also my heart felt like it would, say, after being engaged in an extended foot race or something of the like.  Didn't like that feeling very much so I'm not sure if I'll keep playing around with this ability : )

In a really weird but accurate description, during this time it feels as if my skin was made out of the same nerve endings as my nipples, and is very sensitive to clothing/air for a while.  It's as if I were really ticklish, although I'm usually not.  (And no I don't play with my nipples [that much]) =D

Thoughts? Comments?


b/C
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Seldin on 22/05/2008 08:15:01
I'm not entirely certain that these abilities are related, however, I too can control my pulse and or heart rate as well as Goosebumps.

It would seem that since most of us, who can control Goosebumps, are also able to control these other areas as well. Perhaps they are related in fact to one another.

The Goosebumps are controlled by the thalamus or hypothalamus I believe, which is responsible for controlling the majority of the involuntary reactions in the body, such as heart rate, pulse, body temperature, blood pressure, and more. This is sort of the primitive area of the brain, the base area which keeps us alive and functioning. It would be reasonable to assume that to have control over one function of this particular portion of the brain might lead to further control over these others functions; since the abilities are stored in the same place it maybe easier to locate the others once one is understood.

In my case, I learned how to increase speed which later lead to increasing my strength and eventually I learned how to tap into the Goosebumps but I realized I could also control my heart rate sometime after mastering the Goosebumps.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: uni on 23/11/2008 18:43:56
Wow, I can't believe other people can do this too
I thought maybe I was the only one.

For as long as I can remember, I can produce goosebumps at will. I dont really know how to explain it, but i can just make this sensation occur at the base of my skull. then i can send that pulse to anywhere in my body, and that part of the body becomes goosebumpy. I can send it to my face, arm, legs, toes, chest, or everywhere.

I can also raise my heartrate and blood pressure and can send blood into anywhere into my body, like my limbs. There is no corrolation between the sensations in these two because i have to forcefully send blood to those locations.

thats about it
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: mrdabhand on 12/01/2009 17:16:53
Hello all,

I am looking for someone who can induce goosebumps at will to be part of a film on Friday 16th January 2009. The job will of course be paid, the shoot is in London, UK. All you need to do is turn up, stick up your hairs and you'll have made a few bob. Let me know if this is something you're interested in, my email address is george_belfield@hotmail.com.

Thanks
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Wiseman1 on 09/02/2009 03:33:31
Um? This is really something, I did not think this "goosebumps" where that big of a deal. But I can do something like that, its like an electric current that I can send to any limbs and bring it back in. I know its weird but my hairs don't stand up but it feels like a goosebump, I also can make goosebumps go away.

By the way does anybody here know about a possible link between the Lymphatic system and the chakras???
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Minstrel on 13/03/2009 20:15:06
Wow, so there are more people that can do this as well.  In my case its produced right on the back of my neck below the skull.  I started noticing I could control it when playing tennis in college and would start noticing giving myself goosbumps while in a match to pump my self up...In my case, I get waves starting on the neck/lower part of the skull and expanding to the chest,arm and legs.  I don't feel anything on my face.   Goosebumps take a couple of seconds to show up once I start creating those waves and I can not control whether it's one arm or leg or whatever.  The wave goes everywhere below the neck.  As far as a usefull skill...Aside from making my young daughter be amazed at her super hero dad, I do think the nervous system is pumped up in some form.  its a strange feeling, but it feels good. 

I've been wanting to look this up in google for a while and that's how I ended up in here. 

Cool!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tcdao on 22/03/2009 05:25:11
Hey my name is tony and i too can cause the tingling sensation that start from the back of the neck and it travels all the way down to my legs. What is interesting is that (weisseraffe) mention being able to control the rods and cone behind the eyes to get a fuzzy image or "fire works" if being done while looking at lights, b/c i too can do that. I think that if a person is able to do that with their eyes then they have 20/20 vision and are able to correct them, b/c when i control my rods and cone while wearing my grandma glasses which is really blurry, i am able to see with normal vision! i believe this is genetic because i asked my mother if she is able to do the voluntary self induce goosebump and she did it!!! so i really believe that it has to be genetic. There is one thing i notice that all of you that are able to do the "VIG"(Voluntary Induce Goosebump) that miss is that after self induce the goosebump, your strength increases, i found this out when i was bench pressing. I maxed out at 150lb but after doing the VIG and lift right away i was able to max out at 170lb!!! which is a big increase in a matter of second, i did a second trial 10min later w/o the self VIG and i was only able to bench 150lb then tried the VIG i again was able to bench 170lb which i think is amazing.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tcdao on 22/03/2009 05:31:12
oh i recommend those with VIG to do the strength trial so confirm this, start off with something you can left and walk with, measure that distance then do it again right after the VIG then re measure the distance. I'm pretty sure you might be shocked with the result.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tacosalad on 08/05/2009 03:41:51
dude... I have the same ability! I've recently taken the pulse ability to a new level though. Giving myself a nosebleed... I can now do that at will. I was interested if there was anyone else who could, so i looked up controlling goosebumps on google and there you were. Be careful doing goosebumps too much, if you do it for as long as I have you might get used to it. Try taking a couple weeks of not doing it, because your body may get used to it.

*addition: Its not just pulse... its the blood in your body too. If you have really good control you can do a lot.
also... I am self taught, no meditation or silly crap like that.

2nd addition: to the guy who said his strength increases. I noticed that too. weird...
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jbuddha on 12/05/2009 04:34:31
Before I found this article, I had no idea so many others could do the same trick! I am glad to find a community of goosebumpers. I wanted to ask you a few questions, trying to find correlations between other odd things about me and things about you all. Reading over all of these posts, I wanted to say yes I sometimes wake up at night from tripping on a sidewalk in my dream. I can also move my ears individually, pop them, make a loud hum in my ears by humming, I can move my eyebrows separate from eachother, and all that.

What I wanted to ask was if you all ever experienced super sensitivity to your environment? For instance, I get a funky headache when I walk by a microwave turned on. My head also hurts when I'm on a cellphone for too long. I find that a cup of coffee will keep me up for 12 hours, and that I can usually get high off of one or two puffs of the green stuff. I also find that ibuprofen dulls my reaction speed in sports and homework.

Some of these may be all in my head, because the effect is so slight, but are any one of you goosebumpers also (what my friends like to call me), hypochondriacs?

Hit me back

-Jake
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jbuddha on 12/05/2009 04:39:38
Additionally, I would like to know how you heart beat raisers measure your heart rate without being distracted from the effort. And I haven't tried the weight room yet. Make sure you do trials in different orders, because it is possible that your previous workout will give you an adrenaline boost that soups you up, or it may tire you out for the next trail. You have to find the average increase of strength by averaging the boost you get using goosebumps first in a trial and when you use it last.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: trax on 21/05/2009 05:06:49
OK weird, I can do this too and have always been able to. I don't know if I learned it somehow or if it's just natural. I would love to know why I can do it and what it means biologically.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: HubTM on 01/06/2009 20:26:49
Im able to do this too, create goosebumps with the wave sensation all these people have mentioned. I can control my heart rate too but not to the same extent. Id be really interested to find out exactly what is going on in the brain when this happens.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: sabe. on 04/06/2009 01:49:04
Wow...I just found this forum today on google while trying to figure out words that would relate to this feeling. I thought I was the only one too! I noticed I had this ability since i could remember. However, I can only make myself feel the chill from the top of my chest to the top of my abs. Also, I have to consentrate and breath in and out intensely. When I breath out, my chest shivers and then the feeling comes down from the top of my chest, or bottom of my neck, to the top of my abs, which I believe is where my diaphragm is.
 I don't know about controlling my heart rate though, can you guys enlighten me on how to do it?

Just for your guy's information, if it matters, currently I am a 15-year old vietnamese teenager.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: mike0211 on 16/06/2009 11:45:14
Hi...My names michael im 23 and born on feb 11,
i really don't know who will ever read this but i have read most of you alls posts about the "goosebumps" lol..funny that everybody is calling it that...because i really dont get the goosebumps like normal goosebumps...if that made sense lol... sure if i reallyyy try to kick that energy up. i actualy trigger "normal hair standing up like crazy/chill goosebumps.." but...

I really just think it feels like a electrical current...but maybe thats the same thing, anyways....

I have a lot to say about it and have some things to compare from all of you other people who can do that same thing. with a couple of new things that nobody else mentioned i dont think...

here goes so bare with me...

K well yess...i can do the whole "goosebumps" thing, and nooo i dont do any special breathing...i dont need to concentrate hard, and can do it while running, holding my breath, eating...watching tv...i guess i just at first learned to control it for the most part because it makes me feel good....

now i drink but i dont do drugs..so i can't really say its like taking a hit of some kinda drug that's addicting...but i can say i constantly "generate" them. because they really do make me feel good...

i noticed some of you or atleast one of you, said how you think it can help with healing...to whoever you are, i gotta agree...it play sports alot and if i "DO" get hurt, i use it to take away most of the pain, and idk...i personally have noticed it helps me just heal a lot faster...

I also can control my heart rate,and pulse...pssh just right now to double check that i could i just kicked up my heart rate to hyper drive......and nowwww i lowered it back down to below normal...so yup..i can still do it...It helps to skip  warming up with getting ready to play basketball lol...
now about the whole controlling the Pulse of my body, yup that I can do....  now im not sure how many of you have actually see your pulse go up without feeling yourself....but when i raise my pulse, i tend to focus it on my wrists,...being that i always saw on tv with doctors or people checking peoples pulses there....but besides that...when i do it... anybody who can see or cant, can clearly see my skin on my wrists pulsing like crazy...my skin bends sometimes on the sides of my hands 2 if i reallyyy focuse hard on doing it... so yup...

now with the whole raising and lowering your body temperature...i can do that as well...BUT there's a slight catch sometimes...
....K....lets say i wanna brave against the cold and raise my temp...well all i do is kick up those "goosebumps"...and focus a "LITTLE" bit on making my body get hot...and it seems to work for the most part...definetly doesnt play a big factor if its like super cold...but it does help for sure... but lets say i do it when its already hot lol...well then my body gets EXtremely hot and ya it kinda sucks...ha

now when lowering my body temp...honestly i can do that 2..but it's not as affective YET.


hmm...what else did you all say?...oh ya.about where it comes from...well to be honest..i guess that doesnt really matter, being that i really cant say for sure where it comes from?...lol sorry =/

all i know is that my emotions GREATLY effect the "goosebumps" when i kick em up...sometimes i try to Double that energy...ehhh let me explain i guess..

okay..for those of you who can do this at will..you know how to trigger it right?...k well lets just say if you ever wanted to double it..that it's possible to take it up a whole other level using your entire body as generating more of it...
..now I myself...can literally see and feel my heart and pulse rate sky rocket...as well as my body heat raise dramatically...also the next part is where you'd get a slight shaking or twitching of yourself..nothing to crazy...but that i found to be just a normal reaction to the increase of the "goosebumps" intensity...

not to sound like an idiot but think of yourself as like powering your body up, to like a superhuman state...to where your senses get heightened up and strenght and just sheer confidence and will..of doing whatever you want...

Yup...it's like that...

you know how your body can bring out adrenaline? i guess its like that, but doing it yourself at will...but to a extreme, because you feel more intense...

now i know most of you say you can control it...but for how long exactly?..you say it comes in waves right?...well ya it starts off like that when controlling it...but have you ever tried to sustain it?

i'm sure some have and maybe can...so if so, thats kool...

I, have been trying to sustain it for as long as i can, without having to produce another "wave"...
but b4 i go on with this...just note that i am only talking about the "normal" not intense really at all, kinda "goosebumps"...

i have gotten pretty good and keeping it going for what Iiiii think is a pretty good amount of time...i'm just experimenting and trying to gain more self knowledge on what this thing can do if it can be controlled further

...but i would be lying if i said i didnt ever Run-out of that "goosebump" energy...YUP..i guess my body has a set amount of how much i can use, and once i deplete it, it takes a couple minutes or longer to restore that lost energy for myself....I know somebody else here talked about how they try and Kickup that energy again when they know they have none, and they get nothing 2...so atleast i know that's normal lol... i try to do the same to get those "normal goosebumps"...but when i try and just kickup the more intense one i talked about..all i get is the shaking of my body...with nothing else...so ya...wont work on that either...which
yess.....you gotta be able to do the "normal goosebumps" at will, in order to generate your body going for that extra one..


anyways, i noticed somebody talking about it possibly giving people who can do it "telekinesis" or something...well honestly, even b4 i read this thing today, since i decided to register like 25 minz ago to be able to write this lol....I honestly assumed that "telekinesis" thing already on my own...i always had a idea that if reallyyyyy mastered or something that MAYBE i can do some CRAzy "telekinesis" stuff lol i knowwww
prolly just wishful thinking...but i mean cant hurt to try right?...but eh...at the same time, i may not be able to control that kinda thing...but doesnt mean i havent had "weird" experiences...




ya....this is 30 minz after i wrote "but doesnt mean i havent had weird experiences"....and i'm pissed because this stupid site i guess timed me out from writing all the stories i told!!!!!! wtf!!!....ima write em again i guess but some other time because there's nowayyyy im writing all that i did again....

laters
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 17/06/2009 15:22:23
I can do the goosebumps as well.
I used to be able to do it only when standing still, but after getting used to it, I have been able to do it while walking for the past so-many years and any other activity.
I noticed that if I do not inhale (even slightly) at the same time, it is a bit harder to get them.
Also, alcohol inhibits the actual goosebumps (I can still send the electrical signal when inebriated, but there is no goosebump side-effect).

Also, just like mike0211, I have a different "extreme" goosebumpy thing where I slightly twitch or shake and have extreme focus.

Concerning the sustaining, since it comes in waves (the electrical signal or hormone or whatever going down the body), to "sustain" it, I just do the waves frequently enough that it doesn't stop. So I *could* keep doing it "forever".

I would love to finally meet someone else who can do this! Anyone here live in Boston, USA? :-)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: sabe. on 23/06/2009 03:45:29
I've been thinking. And...what if everybody could do this...and they just didn't give it much thought.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: sparko on 26/07/2009 12:44:28
I can induce small goosebumps on my arms at will. I have to be sitting down quietly first. To do it I concentrate on the base of my spine then move the point of concentration up it slowly all the way to the top of my head. At that point I breath in very slowly and tense up a tiny bit. Then I feel a tingly nerve sensation moving around my spine and upper body generally and get the goosebumps. Sometimes they appear on my legs also. I can't move them to a specific limb yet. 

I can't do the heart rate thing but I can do the random eye movement thing.

I'm a 42 y.o. male and have been able to do goosebumps for several years. It happened after I tried chakra meditation.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: ZdAries on 27/07/2009 07:24:28
Hey guys, like the other guy, I also registered just to post here...  [:I]

And I came upon this site on my search on how to control involuntary actions like inducing goosebumps, yawning, refocusing your eyes, coughing, sneezing, crying(I think it only applies to me, I don't know why but every time after I fight, or hurt anyone for that matter, even though I am barely hurt and even though I won, tears still come to my eyes. This is the main reason why I searched for ways on how to control involuntary actions) and a few others.

About the goosebumps thing, I used to be able to induce them willingly when I was a child. But since then, I have never willingly induced them, because of that, I have forgotten how to do them. But I am still able to induce them again, barely, but only after I just experienced them involuntarily. Like what happened two days ago, I saw this flash animation about a man's life changed by a dare, and thus he was able to help millions of homeless people and was able to give them a home, and because the animation and the song fit each other so much, it gave me goosebumps. And starting from that time until a few hours later, I was able to induce goosebumps by thinking about the video and remembering the "feeling" I had when watching it. But the day after that, I couldn't do it anymore, no matter how much I think about the video.

I think this is what the other guys meant by "replaying". I also learned how to move my eyebrows, and ears, widen my nostrils(not sure what the term is [:I]), focus my eyes and a few others.

In the past, my mother showed off to me how she could move her ears, and because I was so jealous, I tried it so much but still wasn't able to replicate it. So I tried moving my scalp backwards using my hands and then remembered the feeling of how it moved my forehead, eyebrows, eyelids, and ears. After that, I was able to "replay" it over and over again, and then I learned how to move my eyebrows, first dependently of each other, after some days of practicing, I was able to move them independently. And then after I mastered moving my brows(I think I did, I can even move it sideways a little bit, and even make them move in circles, one in a clockwise direction, the other in a CCW direction. I don't what else I can do with them so I think I've already mastered them) While I was practicing with my brows, I noticed how my ears moved with them, and I then remembered the feeling of my ears being moved and practiced until I was able to move them without moving any other part of my face(except my forehead, since it moves upward no matter what I do).

I think most people can do this but just in case I am wrong and most people can't, I can even widen my nostrils. It's hard to explain but try looking at a mirror and try breathing in and out, then you'll notice that your nostrils kind of widen up. My friends aren't able to do this so I think this is not a common "ability".

And also, I can willingly focus my eyes, it actually started a few years ago when my eyes got so bad that I had to either wear glasses or contact lenses. And I didn't want either because it made me look like a geek. So sometimes in class I tried taking off my glasses and focusing on the board but it was so boring and most of the time, I yawned and I noticed that right after I yawned my vision cleared and I could see farther and more clearer than I normally could, but that was only for a few seconds. So, I tried forcing myself to yawn as much as possible so I could see better but it was really hard to yawn. So I tried thinking about boring things and almost closing my eyes to the point that I can barely see and then I learned to yawn willingly. And in class I yawned so much that most of the time my teacher would yell at me to go out if I thought his/her class was boring. But I was never really bothered with them since I was so happy that I could see better. And after a few months I was able to re-focus my eyes to see from varying distances. I can even focus them so that I can see clearly with any-grade glasses.

And also on a side-note, you guys might want to try and learn to yawn willingly. I found it very useful and fun. It is believed that yawning is contagious and if you saw someone yawning, chances are sooner or later you will yawn too. And I was able to prove this with my friends. When I was bored I just yawned and yawned and after a few tries, maybe two or three times, they would yawn too. And every time after that when I yawned there was a near 100% chance of them yawning right after. For me, it was really fun seeing them yawn because of me.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: XSeven on 29/07/2009 17:50:18
This is a very interesting topic.

I too have the ability to cause voluntary goosebumps. I used to think that it was a pretty strange thing until I heard that the others here could do it as well.

A common ability? Yes and no. Controlling one's pulse rate is a common ability--the pulse increases just by excitement or relaxation... emotions we control. However, scientists confirm that goosebumps are an involuntary response. Controlling those impulses would take a feat beyond that of just providing emotions or tensing muscles.

I've been experimenting with this ability and have taken it to a higher level. I have the ability to make my heart skip a beat and can "hold" it for a couple of seconds before releasing it. Nearly every time, goosebumps develop. I've also been able to cool myself off in the hot Texas summers by using the VIG trick. But what's most spectacular is that I can actually nullify pain with it. I've used it to quell headaches, leg cramps, bruises and scrapes. I can even hold onto a cup of hot coffee in a metal cup without feeling the pain. The trick numbs my hand to the degree where I feel an electric tingle instead of the pain.

Interestingly enough, we all have one thing in common besides producing goosebumps. We all seem to have an "additional" ability as well. Some have increases in strength, some can heal, and others seem to have touched the psychic level, yet all of the extra nuances are INTERNAL. I think producing the goosebumps is a precursor to learning neuro-feedback. I believe we can take this ability to astounding levels with devotion. IMHO.

(who knows? We could all be on Dr. Shuresh's list  [;)] )
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: nagol on 08/08/2009 06:22:55
I have been experimenting with my goosebump control.  With some success I can move it around my body including left to right.  My kids love it, but they have yet to show signs of my stupid people trick ability. I can easily make my face and head get the bumps, looks kinda funny with 5 o-clock shadow.  For me this is defenately linked to adrenaline production, strength and mental focus go up.  I do have mild narcolepsy and this can temporarily help when I get the sudden urge to sleep.  The eye focus thing is something I assumed everyone could do.  I will try the pulse and body temp deal.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: 81s on 12/08/2009 02:18:46
Wow...I've been able to give myself goosebumps since I was a child and have NEVER been able to find anyone else who could do it. I have a question though...are you guys able to give yourself goosebumps with your eyes open or closed? I can only do it closed and when I'm breathing in. I've also performed a test by sitting in a bath tub with the hottest water I could stand, and I was still able to give myself goosebumps while in it.

Do any of you think this may be something more than just giving yourself goosebumps? Like maybe we cam do things with our minds that most people can't? Call me crazy, but I feel like it's something much, much bigger than just performing goosebump tricks.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Laura_Kelly on 17/08/2009 03:05:31
It's quite interesting to see this. I can't control goosebumps aside from making them happen randomly, I can't make them go away, but I can increase and decrease my pulse rate without any secondary stimuli. It is quite helpful for when I'm a patient at first aid competitions as it helps my role to be far more realistic. And it's great for confusing people who aren't sure whether my pulse is meant to be that slow or fast!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: vertebrac on 27/08/2009 04:49:28
We are a lot!, my name is Javier, i'm from Argentina, i have the same strage thing :)
if anyone would like to chat or talk about it, i'm in skype at: vertebrac (my english isn't very good, but let's give it a try!)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tcdao on 08/09/2009 07:28:33
This is a personal account to my experience of VIG, i can give myself goosebump with eyes close or open, in cold or hot weather, and in any situations. Really i had to teach myself to do it, before i had to think of having my finger nails scratch a block of ice and this would always give me goosebump, in times i train myself by thinking of the same thoughts but controling the goosebump by not activating it. Over the time i started to do it at my own will. I believe this is genetic b/c my mother can do it too, i was amazed. Could we be seeing a evolution in the making? I believe people that can do this can adapt well to cold weather b/c normally goosebump is use to warm up the body. We can adapt well to extreme dangerous situations because at the same time our eyes dilate so we can have a better vision of our surrounding, our body pump adrenaline to our muscle to work much more, our senses increases. This is not your normal human being who has no control over this and depend on these factor situations to set the fight or flight mode on. If we train to use this "skill" at the right time and acquire the knowledge to overcome it, our ability can help us out compete and out survive the normal human being. Im not saying i am right, im just saying think about it and share me your opinion
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Oscar on 14/09/2009 00:22:58
Hi all,
I can also give myself goosebumps at will in an almost identical fashion as Jolyon describes. I do not believe in anything mystical, so I don't attach any supernatural qualities to this ability. I am an engineer and as a technical person understand that this may be of interest, especially if it is as rare as this conversation suggests. I live in Boston, so if anyone has a serious interest in exploring this ability, feel free to contact me via email.
Oscar
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 15/09/2009 15:50:00
Oscar, I can give myself goosebumps at will and live in Boston as well. I sent you a private message.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dimi on 18/09/2009 00:57:37
Hey there! Thats interesting to hear please keep us all up to date with what you find out. I only registered because I wish to share my thoughts on this,

I can also do this, I realised I could do it after a car accident when I was 10. It was like a sudden trauma released it in me and now I can control it at will.
What I have found interesting is that it seems to be done in different ways.

The way I do it is, I can either tense up or remain completely calm ~ but I do an imaginary pull on either my spine, neck, or from my crown, then I feel it throughout my whole body. The intensity is varied but most of the time it is the same. I have compared it to listsening to awe-inspiring music or having an epiphany, sometimes I can make it reach to that level. I will try keep conscience notes of what lets me reach those levels.

I've also noted that while after jogging for 5 or 10 minutes ~ I find it very hard to do it and it actually takes alot of effort but I can manage (after what looks like I'm having an internal struggle with myself, haha)

Its led me to believe that perhaps we have an conscience ability to control smaller muscles inside of our body. Sort of like a finnese thing.

But also what I find strange is that after awhile I find myself fairly tired or mellowed out. The more I hold it, the more tired I will be. Though ~ while I am holding it I feel charged up and calm, I have even noticed a bit more clarity in my thought.

Though I have never recieved an adrenaline rush by doing this however, I have to pump myself up to get a rush. Otherwise its more like a calming experience for me.

And yes, I practiced meditation to.

I am thinking of convincing a friend that I have a useless supernatural ability. She already thinks I'm weird because I can 'gleek' (projection of saliva from the submandibular gland) and and I have a very high pain tolerance to ~ but I am also very ticklish.. I can control that to though [If i concetetrate, I won't even feel the tickle... or maybe I've developed a good discipline towards it? Maybe it has to do with discipline with your own body]

Anyway I'm afraid I'm going to start rambling!!!

Also, is it gender specific?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: fearfulparadox on 21/09/2009 08:23:18
It is quite a subtle process so it is difficult to explain but I will attempt to. I have actually been trying to teach a friend to do it to understand it better [kinky??],  so far unsuccessfully.  What it feels like I am doing is tensing the muscles located about an inch below the base of my skull, but very very subtly as if I had a pea between my fingers and was pressing it carefully without squashing it. If the tensing is done in a particular way [which I am really at a loss to describe], it triggers waves of an electrical sensation which is generally a precursor to the goose bumps. These “waves” are quite specific in their movement and direction. They begin at the base of the skull just above the “muscle tensing “area then radiate outwards to my upper back and shoulders, then to my arms and finally my legs [most strongly at the front of my thighs]. It also moves around my head in a wave, like I was putting on a tracksuit hood [but no goose bumps manifest there as far as I can tell except on my neck]. I can increase the intensity of these waves, and therefore the goose bumps, by “pulsing” the neck area I described above but it requires concentration and the “electrical” feeling is not necessarily pleasant. A side effect of this process is an increased heart rate and an adrenaline feeling like I had just been frightened or shocked. I can also create this “adrenaline” feeling independently of the goose bumps but again trying to describe how is tricky and beyond my understanding. Like CANNABINOID I also don’t believe it is a “supernatural” process, it is definitely physiological. I don’t practice yoga or meditate and have a healthy scepticism for many [not all] spiritual practices, but I am pretty in tune with my body and surroundings.  I hope this makes some sort of sense, there are so many other things I want ask which may be cleared up by this, for example I suffer from sleep apnia but do not have the general profile of someone who would normally suffer from this condition and wonder somewhere if my sympathetic nervous system [which I presume should control my breathing whilst asleep], is in some way getting mixed messages from my  conscious nervous system. [maybe I’m just a control freak!]
 

Finally! Yes! Yes! Yes!, Someone else who finally has experienced and broken down in explaination exactly what I myself am VERY capable of doing. This is a very stimulating reading this, almost like deja vu......
My name is Dylan Cofer, and my whole life I have also practiced and experimented with these unusual abilities of self control (ever since I was a young one) and have never come to figure out, how? or why? I have been able to do this....I also am very capable of this "tensing at the base of my skull" thus producing
what seems to be shots of adrenaline which lead to increased heart rate, in a different but simuler way I am also able to produce "goosebumps" on the surface of my skin very much EXACTLY how you explained this method, all the way down to the electric feelings.....practicing this I have also been able to produce heat waves throughout my body which makes the surface of my skin (especially the palms of my hands) very clamy {sweaty like humid) increase and decrease heart rates, and as one person has commented, flex a muscle in my ear, useful for plane, car rides to release altitude pressure, etc. The most unusual thing is, is that you mentioned the sleep apnea thing, but unlike most cases is different, same here it comes and goes at different times very unsynchronized, this is very interesting to me to find someone with parallel symptoms and abilities to mine, please do not hesitate to e-mail me immediately for further discussion.... fearful_paradox@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: fearfulparadox on 21/09/2009 08:48:06
Well i posted in a rush so i did not realize all the others who have same abilities, this seems very common amoungst people, all having the same abilities, [increased streangth, healing, etc.] which I am also capable of, resulting in my long years of practice..... meditation also increases this,
The stacking of energy as one person has said like "doubling the effect" is also something which I think most have in common amoungst all of us..... yes I do believe its true everybody has these abilities indeed, some just fail to recognize and practice it...

I think with enough time, practice and wisdom on the subject we might be able to figure this out a little better and give each other "tutorals" so to speak, on abilities and learn from one another...like a society of higher thinking... we should all stick with this practice and blog....who knows what mysteries of the body and mind we may unlock..........
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: fearfulparadox on 21/09/2009 08:52:46
This is definately a relief.......
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: fearfulparadox on 21/09/2009 09:35:31
O.k this may help, I have stumbled upon a very interesting subject in which relates to my ability, and what sounds like most of what everyone else has said in here, study this video...........it will help explain most of our thoughts,  qi gong

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dimi on 21/09/2009 09:43:03
The thing with me however is I have always have had sharper senses, I have good aim with throwing, sharp eye sight, great hearing, good sense of smell, and I am a very fast runner.

My friends always thought I was inhuman haha. But I was very athletic while I was growing up, I was always swimming or doing something.

But the video.. Qi Gong.. If only we could speak to someone who did practice that form of Martial Art :) I don't know what to think of this really... I just wish I could find someone to explore it with.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dimi on 21/09/2009 10:02:31
Oh wait! Another thing. I remember this one time me and my friends were at the powerhouse musuem, and there was a test to see how much current that you could pass through your body [you put your hands on 2 pads and you complete the circuit] . My friends got around 10 ~ 15, and I was up at around 30~33.

Lol wait, a society? We aren't anything special. I think its a hunter ability passed on. We don't usually hunt much anymore.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: fearfulparadox on 21/09/2009 21:40:35
Very true, a society...perhaps not, other than online I meant of course, I have also been very athletic my whole life to, strong, fast just naturally, these so called "genetic abilities" have helped me very much in martial arts and weight lifting wich I have been doing for quite a while, one thing I can do in comparison to the qi gong is channel these "adrenaline bursts" (if you may) into my throat and have someone punch it with little or no damage to me, also in my abdominals......what I simply meant is that we should very well try to channel this "chi" within ourselfs since these monks are very real and have been practicing this for many years....scientists, it says, have proven to see this chi with heat sensors that indicate some type of "flow" through the monks body while performing their amazing abilities.....
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tcdao on 02/10/2009 04:11:04
Well hello everyone. Im back to keep you posted about some new information's about VIG(i came up with that  [;D]) ok well back to the point. Well i guess we can celebrate the positive effect of VIG like it gives more strength, withstand cold weather and more stuff. Yes it is wonderful.......now brace yourself for the irony...when we activate VIG our body release epinephrine and norepinephrien which are basically the same thing, well these chemical break down the wall of our blood vessel, yes your read right...our chances of getting heart disease and cornary heart disease is very very good. The blood vessel become less elastic because the reticular fibers are gone, the heart then have to work much harder to pump blood throughout the body and also the chances are high for us to get hypertension aka high blood pressure..it suck right? yes i know what everyone is thinking now, this great "gift" "genetic mutation" "evolution" whatever you want to call it is great in a way but....it is also killing us slowly. Also if anyone smoke and can activate VIG...i recommend you stop because you will develop atherosclerosis(thickening of the blood vessel) normally near the heart. Also i just found some news...my grandfather died of heart disease, he was in the airforce, rank E7, yes he was healthy but he could also activate VIG thus we can say the chances are high this can be genetic. Some advise i like to give is exercise and try to limit the activation of VIG, sometimes it is hard because it feels good but try to control it. Also this is also a response to stress, normally when we feel stress and activate VIG, it does lower our stress level. "sigh" well i will keep everyone posted if any new information comes up. LIVE WELL PEOPLE!!!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dimi on 05/10/2009 13:01:43
Oh! Damn, I knew there was a catch. I have become very addicted to this, and now I am conerned, hahaha.

The next thing to do is to learn to live without it. I think I can manage.

But I have done this in a dream a fair few times! And I even felt it during the dream...
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dimi on 08/10/2009 00:42:25
Wait! I am extremely confused. I have often compared my 'VIG' to the sensation of listening to awe-inspiring music. Am I effectively adrenaline? Or the fight-or-flight response?

When I am underpressure or doing physical work I labour much much harder to bring it out. Am I experiencing the same thing? Is there a way to test it at all? Cardiologist?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: eroast on 14/10/2009 04:59:21
I have the ability as well and it is a new thing for me, I have a theory on them, I believe it is a reaction to your body collecting energy from your immediate vicinity, I have also noticed an increase in strength and endurance as everyone else stated.
Next time you do it, try visualizing each breath as energy going into your body and see what happens. I am completely self taught, never tried meditating, don't do yoga but I do eat right, get plenty of exercise and I take whole food vitamins everyday.
Another thing someone should try is to hold your cell phone and look at the reception bars while doing it, mine goes from a steady full bars down to one or two bars every single time.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dimi on 14/10/2009 22:04:37
The only time I ever get increased strength / endurance is when I know I am about to do something strenious. When I calm, it is different.

I have been visiting the doctors, and I am NO closer to finding out what this is.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tcdao on 16/10/2009 17:33:38
eroast, you are the man for your good observation, you got to tell me how did you stumble upon this experiment. Today before chem class, i thought about what eroast said about the cell phone bars, at first i was thinking maybe there were other varibles that may account for the situition like dead zone or something near it. But in my class i had a full bar at first, with one hand i held my phone then activate VIG, as time pass, 2 bar went down...i was shocked as hell. I lay down the phone then without touching it to let it go back to a full bar. I picked it up again, did the same thing and i got the same result. Now i will get to the second interesting thing, now instead with one hand, i held the phone with both hands and activate VIG, i had no bars at all, i created my own dead zone. WOW this is more amazing then i ever would have thought. I have the iphone 3GS, it comes with a compass, i went into that aps and told my friend to hold it so i can see what happen, the compass worked normal, i took the phone and held it with two hands and activate VIG, i disrupt the compass and it said "please remove any interference" WOW SO DAMN AMAZING!!!! This leads to more questions about VIG and if it has anything to do with some types of weak wave or energy that is coming out of the body. PLEASE IF ANYONE GOT OTHER INTERESTING EXPERIMENT TELL US SO WE MAY REDO IT AND SEE IF THE RESULT IS THE SAME. I will update more when i get more information about this.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tcdao on 17/10/2009 23:05:52
Ok so I just found out something interesting, there are other variable that deals with the cell phone experiment. It could of two things one is heat or our hand just block the signal. So vig has nothing to do with cell phone signals. What a bummer!!!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dimi on 20/10/2009 09:39:03
I was told that this was once learnt in special army classes. But since mine has occured naturally it might be something different. Or rather 'my mileage my vary'
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: xzoomx on 10/11/2009 11:03:58
Like everyone else here, I thought it was very common until yesterday. I discussed this with my brother and he had no idea what I was talking about. This is like when I first got my eye glasses and could see clearly and said: "Oh, does everyone see this clearly, even single leafs from the trees".

But I feel this sensation without the goosebumps (I wouldn't know anyway, my hair is thick and dry). I can get the same feeling with much more intense when I do accupressure, the waves and everything all of you discribed. Anyway, I thought I could share that I can't sleep and have rock myself to sleep, because I have RMD, similar to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuOKOE-YINk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuOKOE-YINk)

Also I have urticaria, which is rashes and I usually get them after excercise. If I do this "feeling", I think it gets worse.

One more thing I discovered is that I can perform longer, you know, eh... If I do this. :) I just do the "waves" and because of the focus my mind goes else where and I relax, still having the abundance of "resources" :).

Like someone here already suggested, I'm researching Qi gong. "Understanding Qi Gong" the video, seems very interesting (I have watched an hour) and I think the instructor is talking about what we are experiencing. Imagine the Easterners being able to do this for thousands of years, and we just discovered this. I always thought these meditations were silly, but perhaps it isn't after all. We'll see if I'm wasting my time.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pumpkin on 18/12/2009 11:11:12
I know I'm a little late to be adding to this, but I can also control my energy. I've only recently confided in my Mom, since I've always thought before that everybody could do this. Although recently, I can't seem to wear watches anymore without them dying on me, especially if I'm running. I don't know if that's just a coincidence.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: smiler on 13/01/2010 18:55:05
Hi

Just thought i'd share my experience of the 'adrenaline boost' as i think of it. I've been able to activate the adrenaline since i was 16 (29 now), but didnt try and explain it to anyone for fear of being sent away to a loony asylum! Bravo to the people who have managed to describe the sensation so well! This is also a very difficult subject to google/research! My experience differs somewhat to most descriptions on here. I dont encounter goosebumps, but I dont think I ever get them even naturally occuring. My heart rate jumps up almost instantly and I find the sensation quite over-powering. I struggle to maintain it for more than 2minutes, during which time muscles will twitch depending where i concentrate. My most common use for it has been to keep myself awake whilst driving back from work late..its probably saved my life a few times!! I also have the uncanny ability to clear my nose/sinus within 20-40 seconds of activation, no matter how blocked up I am. It will block up again within 5-10 minutes so its only a temporary relief. Haven't read anyone else get this side effect so would be keen to hear of any more nose clearers :) Somewhat jealous about the goosebump tricks most of you have,i'll have to work on it a bit more!


I find it unusual that this area hasnt received more research to maybe explain what is actually taking place. Anyway, I look forward to any replies

Regards
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: robbobmarley on 14/01/2010 02:21:11
I'm very glad to have found this post.
   I feel regularly this sensations, but i do not get googebumps, but the sensation is similar, its some sort of tingling/electrical/wave like sensation.

 I discovered this ability around the 8th grade.  I do not know well what started it, but I do remember
doing mock attempts (by myself) to "gather energy" (i watched a lot of anime lol) and at some point i started
feeling small tingling energetic sensations.
   I held on to that sensation from then on, triggering it constantly whenever I could, to the intensity that I could.
   By the time I was in the 10th grade or so I remember being able to truly trigger the "waves" at will.
 Around the same time (well since the 9th grade) I became interested in the occult and metaphysical but only
in a shallow way, by reading articles and forums about topics I Googled (or yahoo'ed?). 
   I did eventually did some small yoga exercises but never stuck to it for more than 2 weeks, and usually months happened before i tried anything again.

  (the GOOD part) I eventually tried a lot of breathing exercises in late 11th - early 12th grade.  This is the time my ability really skyrocketed.
   The control to trigger it was now perfect, and I could move it to specific areas of the body.
  I noticed that in the cold classrooms of my school, I could trigger this and get ''heat''.  However in the heat when I do this i do not get hot.
   I am also able to treat pain with this ability, from burns to stomach pains to even wounds, it helps a LOT, but I'm not sure about actual healing...although it does feel like it helps it happen faster.

    VERY interesting findings of my personal experience:
1) Ability intensifies with daily use of a ability.
2) It can be triggered from the abdomen AND the base of the brain (for me at least).
3) It can make cold bearable, and so can it make pain bearable
4) It can be triggered with no physical stimuli, just by willing it, although breathing deeply and concentrating helps the intensity and duration.
5) Intense anger, embarassment, or other strong emotions can be converted to this sensation by willing it, it can even stop me from crying altogheter (not just the stimuli but the inner sensation and emotion) in seconds. (interesting that naturally people feel goosebumps with these emotions, although in a more balanced and natural way)
6) Alcohol and Marijuana (no judgements please, trying to share) hinder the ability, too much and i can't even do it.  (recently I can do it a bit while in this states, found out on New Years Eve Day lol)
7) For some odd reason, even if I can feel it EVERYWHERE else and tigger it anywhere; I CANNOT feel it, move the sensation, or trigger the sensation in my: Hands, Feet & Face (interesting when i get actual embarassment goosebumps most people, including me feel it strongly there).  I CAN feel it in the arms and legs, and in the back of the head all the way to the top (and very intense) but not the Face, Hands or Arms. No matter how hard I try :/
   
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pumpkin on 22/01/2010 00:55:04
I found your post very interesting, robobmarley. With me also, it does feel like waves, and although I get the goosebumps, I can make them go down if I focus enough. I also know what you mean about the use of it to suppress pain. Yesterday, I wore new leather shoes out and got really bad bloody blisters, but I used the "waves" -for lack of a better term- to help with the pain, since I still had quite a few blocks to walk and was getting desperate for any sort of relief. It worked! I came home and had to wash out the blood in the boots, (god, good thing they were clearance!) but I didn't feel any pain until I quit concentrating. (My feet sting like a bitch today though!)
 I too, have noticed the energy seems to stem from the abdomen or the back of the head. And I've been playing around with this ability more and noticed if I concentrate hard enough I can make my body hot or cold. It also seems to help me deal with intense emotions and get through bad situations.
So, I guess this does mean that not everyone can do this, huh? Since I've found this forum, I've embraced rather than denied this ability. For years, I told myself "Oh, everyone can do this, you know, like when people refer to getting psyched up or having an adrenaline rush". So, this may sound corny, but it's nice to find out I'm not crazy!
Also, does anybody here get really drained after using the energy-trick...thing (whatchamacallit) after a while? It seems some days I'll have to eat or sleep a lot more than usual just to make up the energy.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: anhei15 on 27/01/2010 13:39:56
when we activate VIG our body release epinephrine and norepinephrien which are basically the same thing, well these chemical break down the wall of our blood vessel, yes your read right...our chances of getting heart disease and cornary heart disease is very very good.

What are your sources for that claim?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 27/02/2010 02:30:34
I too can do goosebumps (activate/supress), control eye vision (I see perfectly, I see minimally 150% of normal eye vision), can do the hearing thing mentioned above and can instantly stop a hiccup when I got one.

though I can't do only parts of my body go goosebump like some of you mention.
I believe that controling eye vision can put a load of stress on the eyes which can raise the eye pressure.

I don't quite believe Pumpkin's theory is correct cause there hasn't been any research done on it, who knows to what levels we control hormones?
probably noone.
this is what goosebump controllers can control (or partially)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system)
due to the adrenaline.

while we also combine it with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system)
due to the smooth muscle control.

those two could be combined in a lot of ways, but after reading the provided links above in my reply I suspect the parasympathetic nervous system is the system most of us control since for example the eye sight is controlled by too, and maybe the sympathic nervous system reacts a little to it.
it would also be weird that through meditation such an effect could kick in if it was the sympathic system.

I found this article that supports Pumpkin's theory:
http://www.webmd.com/balance/news/20000421/anger-health-effects (http://www.webmd.com/balance/news/20000421/anger-health-effects)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pumpkin on 13/03/2010 06:26:10
Thanks for sharing the interesting links, gcb89. Although I must clarify that I theorize nothing; I was just speaking from personal experience.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 27/03/2010 00:32:54
allright, so what is your experience and how sertain are you about those?

and another interesting thing, could "the iceman" Wim Hof also do the same?
he can control his body temperature due to meditation, and been carefully examined by scientists since he can intensify his immune system through maybe the same thing.
who knows, he might could do more but won't make that public.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pumpkin on 02/04/2010 21:43:52
allright, so what is your experience and how sertain are you about those?

and another interesting thing, could "the iceman" Wim Hof also do the same?
he can control his body temperature due to meditation, and been carefully examined by scientists since he can intensify his immune system through maybe the same thing.
who knows, he might could do more but won't make that public.

How certain am I that I experienced what I did? I was awake at the time...
Not to be rude, but this is why I don't tell anyone these things in real life, because no one believes me. All I know is I can control pain and burns to some extent,  make myself cold or hot (Hot is harder for some reason), have had perfectly good watches with new batteries (2 of them) die on me the exact moment I utilized the energy; My cats react to the energy if I concentrate it to my fingertips and pet them: Zelda shivers and runs away, and Zoey will just stay very still and start purring (Uncommon for her, trust me). I'm starting to think I'm just insane, or making things up because deep down I must be bored or something - at least I keep telling myself that. I'm sorry, I'm no scientist, although I'm greatly interested in science, and I know this must all sound like a load of crap. I'll stop here before I babble on some more.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 08/04/2010 07:11:11
I believe you, simply cause I don't have any reason to believe the opposite.
I wanted to find out if it really destroys blood vessels, and wanna know more about this goosebump control.
what you tell about your cats is interesting, I never had that reaction from any animal. cats always seem to be even drawn to me, anyone else had such thing happened?

I can actually good visibly move the skin of my head when I tension it for goosebumps. it's pretty weird.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pumpkin on 16/04/2010 18:19:03
I too, can move the skin of my head. It makes my ears pin back (Caught a glimpse of myself the other day doing that. I looked pretty funny, like one pissed-off elf! [:D]).
 I've never heard of it destroying blood vessels before, but information regarding this subject on every website I've been to is very vague. I'll keep looking and if I stumble upon anything I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 18/04/2010 23:58:33
I suggest you just read wikipedia first on those topics, then you'll read that the parasymphatic nervous system is more likely connected to what's all mentioned here in this topic  [;)]

funny you can move your headskin too! [;D] I thought I was maybe the only one with muscle there enough to make the skin move since no-one said anything here about that.

just a thought, in a fight adrenaline often rushes up in humans and if anyone could control the parasymphatic nervous system then someone can get in an ideally physical state, being able to perform at adrenaline-pumped level with no downsides to that state to physical endurance. (normally adrenaline is more a hinder than a help, especially longer term situations)
that's cause the symphatic and parasymphatic nervous system are antagonists with one supressing the other but in such case it likely doesn't happen.

hypothetically speaking  [:)]
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: patchshorts on 27/04/2010 18:53:07
Hello All,


     The ability to do what is described here has come to me very easily since I was a child. The perception of the waves increases the higher my metabolism or physical activity. It is responsible for my study in metaphysics and occult philosophies. I believe this feeling is what the Chiness call chi, Japanese call Ki (as in Reiki). The strangest thing I have discovered regarding this phenomena is that when I have pushed this feeling of goosebumps into my hands, as if you pretend to hold a ball, and asked someone else to determine if they could sense this 'energy,' they were able to. I've performed this experiment several times and mostly come the the same conclusion. People feel some sort of vibrating in their hands. Their perception doesn't feel cool like with goosebumps.

     Additionally, when 'calling' this energy into me, if the curre temperature outside is hotter than I can stand, I cease to feel hot. If it is cold outdoors, I do not feel cold and I stop shivering if doing so. I think this definitly has a link to what acient people called 'magic' or a more modern version, 'holy spirit.' Because, I favor science before philosophy and belief, I'm pretty positive that this phenomena can be studied.

    Perform you're own experements!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: patchshorts on 27/04/2010 19:13:28
So Jolyon,

what do you actually <i><b>DO</b></i> to make yourself have goos pimples ? Talk us through it.

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx

I'll also answer this question from my own experiences:

I first noticed the natural feeling of goosebumps through music that was special to me. I thought that if I could play a song and cause this tingling, then I certainly could skip the music part and control it. Why I thought that, I do not know. I started noticing it when I would listen to certain music, events would occur in my body that were triggered by certain melodies. I continued to observe this 'event' until I could describe it roughly. This is a poor description but here it goes. It feels like there is an opening or tunnel into my chest. The tingling floods in through this hole into my chest. That is the 'event.'

I began to just simply inhale combined with the forced feeling opening up my body to this feeling. The tingling feeling was very localized in my neck and chest. Later I began to study meditation and perform visualizations where I would inhale and imagine a light emenating from my chest. As I exhaled I visualized this light getting denser. I would mentally stretch the areas of tingling where goosebumps would also form. Now that I could fill my entire body, the next phase was to beable to localize it. I began making it flow from one limb to the other, the goosebumps following along. Now I can fully control it and other people touching me when I do this can feel it flow into their body. I mentioned in an earlier post that this must be a scientific pheomena but also this must be the reason for the belief in Chi, or Ki, or any one of its names in other cultures.

This is definitley a skil that yogis can do and other 'holy' folk.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 24/05/2010 21:02:55
The following videos found on youtube are not very useful, they just show a man filming himself while giving himself goosebumps, all the while claiming that he is doing that through "chi". One point of interest is that he says that breathing is important, something which is also the case for me: if I don't breathe, I can do it, but it is not as strong.

Chi Energy: Goosebumps
"The important exercise for this is breathing, if you don't do it right, it's not going to work very well. Until you practice beyond the whole breathing thing, you're going to have trouble if you don't breathe right."

Chi Energy: Goosebumps 2
"Again the breathing is very important [...] but again, if you're going to practice this, the important thing is the breathing. Meditation helps, in the nose out the mouth, basically. When you get better at it, you won't have to breathe as heavily, but you're still going to need to do it. I'm sure that a point where you won't need to, but I personally have not found a way to avoid the whole breathing thing."

JREF Challenge Video 3
Where he thinks that voluntary goosebumps will win him James Randi's One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 25/05/2010 00:15:21
Guess that's not the same method most others use in this thread, the mentioned method here isn't the same.
that dude really seems to have a tough time on getting goosebumps [:o]
 [:D]
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 05/07/2010 21:43:11
Ah the one active place in which this is still being discussed.

It's been one exceptionally hard hunt through google but finally i can say I've found others like myself.

I read every page in this topic and found it fascinating that there only appears to be a small group of people who can do this.Even more fascinating is the use of specific words,the same exact words i would use to describe this "ability" ,"power" whatever you call this.
some believe as i do,that it has healing effects,others mentioning Chi,Ki,waves,electricity all of which i would dare to say fits the description of how it feels.

In my circumstances it's helped me in a number of ways but allow me to start from the beginning.

I like many of you first came across this in childhood.It first started when i would see powerful(in terms of emotion) events,through film or via music (epic emotional music)

very quickly i realised i could do this and for what seems like forever i ave kept it secret.As i grew up I've used it in fights but could only call upon it in matters of self defence.In this state i couldn't feel pain and seemed much stronger than normal-this of course was only temporary about 20 Min's after i would begin to "come down" and return to normal.

Aside from this I've used it when doing strenuous activities such as when i was training in the army or when i needed to dig deep for extra strength i could rely on this.On top of this it could be used to cool me down and allowed me to be hyper sensitive to movement and sound,this being particularly useful during my training maneuvers when we were out on exercise during nighttime operations.

Back tracking slightly at around age 14-15 i took massive interest in eastern and native American styles of meditation (looking for answers in regard to this ability) this is where i developed it to be as powerful as it is today.

In terms of physical effect it begins at the head and flows down my arms (my arms feel this power the most along with some of my hair on my head) it begins to dissipate the further i goes down my body and the effect on my legs is not that good in comparison to the other stories I've heard form you guys.

After reading everyone elses post i wanted to ask any here whether they would like to share any info;
Anything else you've achieved,any other abilities you might have.I also wanted to see if there was any common ground between us all.

IE are we all men?
Did we all discover it as children?

basically if you want to,mention as much relevant information as you can and maybe we'll stumble onto something?

Perhaps it's origins who knows?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 07/07/2010 14:22:39
I think it is possible that this wave of energy/electricity/hormones/whatever is strongly felt in the general back-of-the-neck/head area as the origin, and I think that the goosebumps are a side-effect of this (it might be a release of adrenaline which causes this fight-or-flight response of goosebumps). What we might feel as the tingle might be the side-effect, that is: there is the rush which is caused by the actual thing going on, and then the tingling which comes from the goosebumps.

spardanto, you say that it is not quite as potent on your legs -- is it possible that you do not have very hairy legs but your arms are much hairier? This might also be a possibility as to why it seems that within those that have this ability, women are scarce, if present at all, maybe because if they do have the ability, they don't necessarily know they do (and this is an acquired ability for all of us through some kind of biofeedback, e.g. we listen to powerful music, get goosebumps, then eventually it happens often and then we learn to control it -- if someone is not aware of anything going on, they can't learn to control it).
I, for one, am a man, and it seems (for some reason) that most of the people who answered here are men (but I might be wrong).
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: uforica on 07/07/2010 22:47:31
It's great to finally find a group of people who are also in touch with this ability!
I've been able to do this for a long time, but after learning and developing energy strengthening techniques through martial arts (controlled breathing and visualizing the air you breathe as energy)it seems to be much easier to do now.
I can produce goosebumps by mere thought, even inside a 100+ degree car. But like mentioned before, being inebriated from alcohol makes it harder to do. I find that when I do this my mental focus is enhanced, and also it makes me stronger. Good to meet you all!
 [;D]
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 08/07/2010 00:42:54
actually i have more hair oy my legs and abit less on my arms,i tohught about it too but i don't think it's related.

i think i'll go out on a limb and try and say whats on my mind.

I think this is some kind of bio-electricity,i think it's got simularities with static electricity (IE it makes your hairs go up etc.)

I'm pretty sure we are taking energy from our surroundings or something,though obviously i have no proof of any kind,it just strikes me that way.

Either way,right or wrong i'd be interested to hear anyones ideas,the wild wackey ones or the scientific ones-i'm open minded so don't worry.

regardless i don't believe that we are merely controlling our goosebump reflex,it's just not the same- i think we could mostly agree on that.

I'm wondering if we have all at some point either;
followed or been religious or had a spiritual experience
studied something like martial arts
Or meditation.

I think we've all in someway experienced one or more of these,i wonder is it these things which have brought this to the surface?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: uforica on 08/07/2010 04:51:59
Here's what I believe is happening:

It is scientifically proven that the human body produces and is surrounded by an electromagnetic field.
Our brains generate an EM field, as does our hearts. The field our hearts generate is 100 times stronger than what our brain produces.
Most people aren't actively aware of this field or think much about it. I think those of us who are talking about this are in touch with this energy and can harness and manipulate it, whether it be through focus, meditation, and/or some type of unusual natural ability. I've practiced tai-chi and qi-gong and the act of guiding the "waves" of energy as described in earlier posts correlate with the harnessing of "chi" (life energy). However, It also goes much deeper than that...

All humans on earth are surrounded by an EM field. We are all also connected to an intelligent field of energy (ether, mind of god, matrix, or whatever you wish to call it) that permeates throughout our planet and the universe. Whether you're aware of this connection or not, it exists. Those of us that can control this are one step ahead because we are aware of our own energy field and can harness it to some degree. When we form genuine heart-felt beliefs and emotions, we can do things and change our world in ways that western science is just now beginning to understand but ancient texts described in detail.

In modern times, humans have become disconnected from our world and from our true selves, and some valuable information regarding the key of our being has been lost. I'm going to stop here, because I'm getting slightly off-topic, but it is related.

How's that for "out there" lol!





Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 08/07/2010 14:34:48
We are not directly controlling the goosebump reflex, we are not directly controlling those muscles, I believe it is just some electric signal or hormone that causes this, the fight-and-flight response, which is not as intense as a real situation (true fear) because it is controlled and conscious.
People have related the feeling of awe to the feeling of fear, and "our" kind of goosebumps is the kind that is naturally generated when feelings of awe occur (beautiful music, scenery, movie scene, etc.) and we have just learned to control them.
We should try to contact some neurobiologist/neuroscientist and ask them what exactly is released in those fight-and-flight responses (adrenaline?).
A while ago, I was at the Museum of Science in Boston and they had a special exhibit on fear. There was one "workshop" where you would place a finger in a clamp so it would measure your pulse, skin moisturizing levels, etc.. I would give myself goosebumps, and the graph would spike.
I think a lot of us will naturally tend to believe in some mystical reason for this or that we have some kind of "superpower", but I think it's simple biofeedback and we should really stick to science.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 08/07/2010 15:14:27

I think a lot of us will naturally tend to believe in some mystical reason for this or that we have some kind of "superpower", but I think it's simple biofeedback and we should really stick to science.

I agree,i think i do at times get carried away but i do also think we need to look at relgions etc.Precisely because we can soemtimes think it's a"gift" "superpower" etc it would mean thats those in the past would also have percieved it as  this.

It's hard not to look to the past and see what they said or thought
Because of this it makes logical sense to look at these theories and in particular looking at eastern styles of thinking etc.

It's no secret that eastern based relgions and medicinal trains of thought do hold some merit in scientific circles.

I guess what i'm saying is we need to walk the line between science and religion/sci-fi etc.Alot of native American medcine styles actually hold truth in science and so basically a belief has been proven through science.

We need to do the same,we need to first think of the theories and ideas and science needs to come and test the validity of our theories.We NEED to make sure science CAN prove what we are saying otherwise we are just nutters but we also need take a leap of faith every now and then and try and think of thoeries,no matter how obscure.

After all many thought the world was flat until someone said " well actually i think it's round" and took that leap of faith and sailed "off the edge"

@: uforica

An interesting theory,i hadn't thought that perhaps the energy that i think we gather from around us actually comes from the Earth's Magnetic field.In fact is it possible we are just feeling this magnetic field around us?

Birds are said to follow magnetic waves in the air for guidance when flying around,so perhaps it's not too abstract to think that other animals could feel these waves,ourselves included?

I want to explore all aspects of this,i know that i've read somewhere that there's potentially bad side effects to performing this too often.

It probably holds some truth because in general too much of something is bad for you.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Austinx420x on 16/07/2010 01:08:05
Hello everyone,

For the past 2 years or so ive noticed ive been able to eaily do this thing with my eyes. i can unfocus them which seems to cause me to get goosebumps sometimes, and causes me to yawn. its like i have a full 180 degtree periferal vision. it allows me to see everything thats moves within 180 degrees of my vision, and it allows me to react to objects moving around my field of view a lot quicker than i normally would. im not saying i have any strange 'powers' or anything like that, since im more a science believer myself, but i just observed these small changes in my vision. ive learned that this might be tied to either the pituitary or pineal gland which supposedly releases melatonin which causes me to yawn. im not sure if i believe this or not. But my point is, i would really like to know; 1. is it common that other people can do this 2. what it is exactly, and 3. how is this 'ability' beneficial or uncommon in any way. if anyone can let me know anything more on this unknown ability please letme know..
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 19/07/2010 23:13:11
well the difficulty is trusting sources of information.

So far it's been described as;

Scalar Energy
Etheric Energy
Qi qong(a technique of)
Healing energy
Elemental energy
Ki
Chi


Then there's the obvious "it's just goosebumps"

Each idea has it's own theory,some bizzare,some simple,some outrageous.


For me it's sounded like Qi gong hit on it centuries ago,in terms of being able to do this.They believe it heals you amongst other things.

So far scientific answers appear to say it's us tapping into our sympathetic nervous system,IE voluntarily doing a usually in-voluntary task,in our case goosebumps.There are also some people saying it relates to the animalistic part of our brains-IE it probably served a more active purpose in the past.

Depending how far you follow the last arguement into the darwin theory it's been said that when we were apes it was something in which we used to make ourselves look more agressive (like a cat that makes its hair stand on end)-if this were true it rings true that it's a redundant skill now days.

Because of all of this,science's skeptical view on the subject and the fact post people hide this ability it just isn't researched enough and so no one really knows....it's all just theoretical

Many of the above have claimed they've done "tests" but many are unverified or are of dubious repute.

In short,there's no real answer and for now until extensive testing is done,you'll have to find the answer your happiest with
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: fseoer2010 on 22/07/2010 11:00:31
Me,too.When I was in college I was very much into meditation, and I could control all sorts of autonomic nervous system activities.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: FuzzyUK on 22/07/2010 22:54:29
In your question of the week forum, there is some information regarding goosebumps.I have a curious [seemingly useless] ability to produce goosebumps at will, regardless of external stimuli [ie temperature, fear, excitement etc] and it has always intrigued me.

I can induce goosebumps too. I only have to imagine squeezing a wet towel that's pushing under the edge of my finger nails and I go all funny.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pumpkin on 23/07/2010 02:51:37
IE are we all men?
Did we all discover it as children?

basically if you want to,mention as much relevant information as you can and maybe we'll stumble onto something?

Perhaps it's origins who knows?
I first got into strenuous exercise around the age of 17, thinking I was horrendously fat at 5'5" and 98 pounds. I remember I just finished running up a steep hill and my arms were covered in goosebumps. At that time I had to wait it out for them to come down, not knowing how to control them on my own. I'm Female, turned 26 last month, recovered from my Anorexia years ago, and can control the energy almost entirely, shamefully still using this ability to run fast on the local track (And hoping to impress a few cute guys I leave in the dust ;))

On a side-note, It seems when I was dieting (The anorexic years) it was much harder to produce this energy, Like how others mentioned alcohol hindering the ability to an extent. I know - kind of obvious when there is a lack of calories (Energy), but just an FYI for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 24/07/2010 00:16:38
thank you for your response,all information is useful.

Funny you should mentioning running,i have used it myself.Infact i used it during my Army fitness entrance exam when i needed some more energy,whether the technique or that fact that i "thought it made me have more energy" was responsible....well it's yet to be seen.

Keep posting ppl,anything that might shed some light on it is a good thing.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Anonymous on 01/08/2010 02:01:15
I can also voluntarily give myself chills and goosebumps in waves that I can consciously send to different parts of my body or all of it. So far I have done a few experiments and here they are:
Strength- when using this I was able to bench 45lbs more than I weigh and about 25 more than my usual bench.
healing- I got a few cuts about an inch long each on my arm from scraping against a brick wall and the "goosebump waves" first helped numb the pain and over continuous use the cuts healed completely in about 4 days. That is how long it usually takes for it to get a full scab.
Electricity: I was doing a physics lab on electromagnetism recently and we were given devices that could read the electric current of an object. I tested touching the sensor with and without the goosebump waves and there was a substantial difference in the readings. It definitely has some element of electricity in it. By the way just a fact, the human body normally generates the electric current of a 9 volt battery. Maybe this ability is just able to tap into that electricity and channel it.
Usage: I can send these chill waves to any part of my body, but when used normally it can either start in my chest or my brain and flow through every part of me. I can also continuously generate this specifically in my head (feels very much like my brain specifically) for up to ten seconds, but it makes something behind my eyes ache until I open my eyes and the energy escapes to the rest of my body. It also slightly feels like the energy goes out of my eyes as well.

so far no Telekinetic powers regardless of how small or light the object is that I concentrate on. (yes I've tried it).

One last thing and I personally find this the most interesting: When I send all the goosebump waves to my fingertips and put my hands on someone it seems to calm them down. And not just like a soothing touch kind of calming but an actual relaxant. The same thing happens when I try it on my dog. I don't think they physically feel the same thing we do but it definitely has an effect.
Thats all I know so far. This forum has been very interesting. I hope whoever reads this  tries out some of these experiments to confirm them. Thanks
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: ToeKnee956 on 02/08/2010 10:21:53
hello,
now ive created a account just to say this...

i can do the pulse sensation.. and do it to another level as stated before by slightly tensing your muscles to achieve a higher pulse... in my observation, your using your body energy. After a while u will feel drained or tired... hence using your body energy. I can see atoms in the blue sky.
Meditation is actually a useful tool used for many of years. Though has been bashed by the ignorant and knowledgeable people. There are two worlds to our lives... our own Human body and its capabilities... and our spirit or soul. To achieve higher awareness and possibilities is to learn how to control both. Though im still young (22) i have great knowledge about my body. You can't expect to fully control and harness your bodies energies or learn how to use them properly in just a couple of days or tries. It takes years of practice, but be warned. I suggest to have a strong mind. Expanding your mind and soul will grab the attention of some people....

In the old writings from the Sumerian and Babylonian civilization... they knew of "powers" of the human body and mind. Though over centuries these teachings have been kept with-in Elite or "royal" bloodlines that still exist to this day.

The human body and mind is one of the biggest mysteries today. The General public knows nothing about it except whats in the text books and what they teach u in school. But your body forms go farther than u can imagine. The only way to unlock them is to learn for yourself or try finding the teaching to unlock these "powers".
It was written in the old kingdoms of the Chinese days, they learned a technique called "CHI"
or the power of your spirit and mind. By controlling your own energy and exerting it through your hands or body. Making your inner energy into a physical form.
Learning to control your body, mind, and spirit will unlock unimaginable possibilities... "We are splitting image  to our creator, carved from stone adam is born, from his rib came eve." This is the tip of the iceberg....

Your subconscious is a power sector in the brain that actually play how u see life... When it learns.. u learn.. when it is aware of new knowledge.. so are u..

ill leave u with this...
Every meet someone new and from that point on u start to notice them everywhere now than before? Thats because your subconscious mind is now aware of them. Your subconscious filters out what it doesn't know or understand, so you dont notice it... The more you learn internally the more aware you are of your surrounding that u never noticed before. "enlightenment"
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Kreedz on 06/08/2010 03:36:56
Hi all,

I've been able to control this wave thing inside me for years. The feeling is probably felt by most people at least a couple of times in their lives unconsciously while listening to good music or watching an epic part of a movie. The fact of controlling it is quite fun since the feeling can be extreme.

Now the big question no one could answer very clearly : What is it? Does anybody know someone who studies human body? It is almost sure its about an hormone being released. Anonymous guy : what kind of electric measurement device was it? I badly want a proof this is more than just goosebumps!

We really need to push the investigation further, this kind of thing does not seem well known by science.

- Kreedz
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 07/08/2010 19:12:32
it's physically difficult to get anyone from the scientific quarter without being looked at in the "your crazy way"

I mean come now how many of us have kept this secret for years upon years because we knew how people would react.

It often gets lumped in with things like Qi Gong,which seem to have elements of descriptions of what we experience by doing this ability and the problem there is that they are known to the scientific community for there un-scientific or biased testing so much so that it's now resulted in most scientists in ignoring us.

There isn't alot of us,or certainly not alot that will speak about it in fear of being "different" not to mention where do you even start analysing.I've heard everything from it being associated to our sympathetic nervous system,some say it's related to the primal part of the brain and others saying we are just thinking about emotions etc and that it's normal.

i don't buy any of those excuses but i don't want to jump to conclusions either.I would very much like to see some type of formal testing.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: THamilton on 17/09/2010 05:06:44
I've been able to raise goose-bumps at will since childhood.  And I'm curious if anyone can learn this behavior as I did.

In my case I would get goose-bumps by running my fingernails down a chalkboard.  Also found a more intense reaction came from doing the same on an old car whose outer paint has begun to oxidize.

After a while (a few months I think) I could raise goose-bumps merely by thinking of doing this.  Now I can do it at will, sending the "pulse" mentioned in some of the above posts to specific areas of the body.

For me the feeling is a combination of pleasurable and cleansing.  Like a good physical work-out.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Althaezel on 19/09/2010 14:45:07
Hi,

I've only been able to do this for a few years.  I've noticed it calms me down when I'm anxious, focuses my thoughts and bolsters my emotional well-being.  I don't know about the rest of you, but since I've taught myself to do this I haven't gotten sick.  I've woken up with the sniffles once or twice, but that only lasts for about an hour and then I feel fine.  I haven't had the flu or a cold in years. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 21/09/2010 16:17:53
I'm not particularly easier sick than others.

I mentioned that unfocusing eyes earlier, and it seems my left eye can go up to -6.00 and my right eye up to -5.00.
not unfocussing both 0.00.
I had it measured.
probably nothing special, right?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Snow on 28/09/2010 00:35:57
Ohhh my...I can do this.  I thought I was the only one!  I use the muscles in my neck, right below my jaw. I've been able to do this for as long as I can remember.  I used to think it was like a porcupine, because it felt like spines coming out of my arms. 
Here's how it feels:  First, I get this warm feeling in the center of my body, even though I'm tensing my neck.  It spreads through the rest of my body quickly.  Then it comes out and make my goosebumps come out, which makes the hairs stand up, making me warmer.   I can use it in reverse, but only in REALLY hot temperatures.  I'll tense my muscle, and I'll get hot for a second, then sweat a lot.  I have always been very susceptible to heat and hives from nerves and allergies. (hives are like goosebumps, only they don't make your hair stand up, and they are itchy.)I think they are somehow connected.  I tried to tell my friends how to do it, but they can't find the muscle.  How did this happen?  I shiver randomly sometimes, even when it's extremely hot, If it can be called shivering...My body shakes and goes in waves then it stops.  This also happens sometimes when I tense the muscle.  I am amazed that there are so few people who do this.  I assume that everyone can do it, but they don't know how.

To the person who posted before me:  I can unfocus my eyes, too!  Everything goes blurry.  My younger sister is able to do this, as well, though, so it's probably not connected, as she cannot raise goosebumps.

Also, I don't get sick easily.  While my whole family is home with a cold, I go to school.  The only sickness that I've had for awhile is the flu.  This started when I was about five, and I had a horrible flu during which I couldn't eat much.  After that, I've been extremely healthy...
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: sascad on 29/09/2010 04:20:43
I've been able to control the goosebumps also for quite a few years. Starts with a tingling feeling at the base of my head before the neck, then I can send that feeling down any part of my body to create goosebumps. It's to the point now that I can create the sensation anytime I want without any effort. Coincidentally inregards to "the_kizmet_zephyr" comment, almost all my dreams I have telekinesis.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 05/10/2010 21:27:16
Hi all

Well i'm becoming somewhat of a "regular"

scientifically speaking i keep hearing about the pituitary gland which in turn led to the hypothalemus being mentioned which then ties into varying things such as the adrenal gland.

Apparently 10,000 years or so ago they used to get into situations which would allow them to draw on the "flight or fight response" now since it's not always possible to run (particularly back then) they'd opt to fight with interesting results.

We've not really changed since then but it still rings true about the fight or flight thing.Essentially adrenaline boosts your natural abilities,makes you more receptive to your surroundings,makes you faster,stronger increases your blood flow and breathing rate.

Effecitvly making us much more capable of fighting.But to maintain that level for any period of time is difficult hence why we aren't in a continual state of "fight/flight" or "higher state of being"

The pituatary gland being responsible for many things such as tempreture and the fact it's connected to the hypothalemus and this in turn controls things like goosebumps (the involuntary kind) means that both the gland and this part of the brain working together can allow us to do what we are doing; raising our own abilities and energy levels

Now thats based on the science of things and whilst i do believe in science i have other feelings towards this ability we all have.What if we are just scratching the surface on what we control within our own minds?

At any rate i can pretty much gurantee that each and everyone of us has been in a fight or flight situation and for whatever reason (either as a direct or indirect result) we've learned to master this ability and do it at will.

Those of you who fought,have you experienced bursts of abnormal strength,speed or awareness?

Thinking on it i certainly have,from literally knocking someone off way across a room to jumping onto a 6 ft wall without "climbing" (was doing an army exercise "escaping the enemy" in case you were wondering lol)

Yet i would not describe myself as strong in my normal state

Anyways would be interested in hearin your thoughts everyone

We all do it,we all love it we all feel better for it i think it's possibly an adrenaline addiction in one sense.I know i regularly find myself doing it.Yet i'm not an adrenaline junkie,i don't do particularly dangerous things or do any sports etc that give me an "high "

If what i'm saying is true we may need to be careful how often we use the ability,overuse of adrenaline is dangerous not to mention it makes you tired.After all we are effectivly using energy at a much faster rate whilst in this "higher state"
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 18/10/2010 13:42:57
Maybe everyone can elevate their adrenaline at will but won't always result in goosebumps.
What I'm saying is, maybe we all got (highly) elevated adrenaline levels. (aka stress)
And at a sertain concentration of adrenaline goosebumps kick in.
Or maybe at some point we all had stressfull times, discovered that manipulation of goosebumps at that time or close after it (easier to activate) and maintained that level of stress with the every time activating goosebumps.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Anothone on 23/10/2010 16:35:06
I was looking for 'control goose bumps' on Google, and found this topic.

I too can control goosebumps. The pulse starts in the neck, goes to the head (chin, cheek, left an right brain - not the pituitary gland) shoulders, arms, abdominal and legs.

It started when the woman next door died through homicide, her then-boyfriend was sent to prison. I knew the woman very well, and thus it caused a major impact on my well-being. I believe that, that was the cause of me being able to control goosebumps.

The pulse is activated by control, but has an increase when I feel any emotion or outside change in temperature. Also, when there's nice music on, I can make the pulse more powerful. I also can reduce it by focusing on the place where the pulse starts - in the neck and lower spine. The only side effect I can think of is that it's causing me to transpire. I never really used it in physical excersises of any sort.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: saintsinner on 02/11/2010 18:06:45
Hi I'm Jon

I'm actually surprised that there is a thread about this and I just registered to this cool site just to share my experience with this. I too could control the goosebumps thingy. This is called "BioFeedback" exercise I believe, and this kind of biofeedback is kinda basic for me. However, i think there are a lot of useful things about it. When we activate our sympathetic NS, the first response is flight or fight, and there are a lot of benefits from it depending on how much adrenaline your body is producing. Almost all symptoms accompanying the "GS" are mainly sympathetic response including an increasing pulse. I think this exercise is very useful depending on how much you utilize it. For example, using adrenaline for heavy lifting or during a fight is beneficial. But we should always remember not to use it at a time frame that we would deplete our body of energy. Using it might cause extreme fatigue. I believe this exercise is divided into controlling the sympa and parasympathetic response of our body. Hence, voluntary activation of sympathetic response could also deactivate the parasympathetic nervous system and too long might cause extreme fatigue and stress ulcers. Same reverse effects goes with utilizing the opposite response. Well my version of this is that, yes I could also activate my sympathetic response and make the goosebumps. Whenever I use this ability, I actually make myself very alert and reduce a lethargic state.  I strongly believe that this exercise is  related to tai-chi and meditation.My higher version of this thing is that, 1.  I could make my wounds heal fast 2. I can tolerate extreme hot conditions by these goosebumps and not easily get fatigued due to fluid loss 3. I could also tolerate extreme cold for some time, but this is a bit difficult 4. I have a very strong tolerance of pain when I concentrate, I even do this little trick that I putt and cross all the fingers in both of my hands and like in the game "truth or dare" and just ask someone to squeeze it, and I feel very little pain when I concentrate that the sqeezer eventually just gets tired. and lastly, I could go on for 3-4 days w/out food but with water and not feeling too weak. I tried this and even at the 3rd day of fasting, I can even still play soccer and go the the gym....But after the 4 days experiment I did, I was rested for quite some time too. Regarding connections on electrical activities that were posted earlier, I have no idea and how I wish I will have that ability too,  well I'm just hoping that this is not related to activation of a third-eye thou as to the extent of too much control ..Well that was my experience....

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: MWShinzou on 07/12/2010 08:04:01
I've been reading through this thread and felt like I should also give my 5 cents. Ever since midway through high school I noticed that when I listened to a song I really liked, a goosebump electrical like sensation would flow around me, mostly my cheeks, shoulders, neck etc. Over time I continued to experiment with it, only able to do it at a few minutes at a time before being too fatigued to do it. After a while, I began to be able to do by simulating emotions of sorrow and anger within my mind. I used this as an emotional release, or a natural high to get away from the world around me. But slowly, it became something more for me, and it began to become a part of my spirituality. I'm feel as if I could continue performing it for any duration of time, however, the longer I practice it, the harder it is to gather.

First I imagine a wind that surrounds my body. I let it flow around me, caressing me, wrapping around my arms, and filling me up. I then grab it firmly, letting it permeate through me, but at the same time, not letting it consume me. I try to imagine it flowing in all directions equally. I will then try to imagine pulling the energy, both visually and physically, from my center to my left arm, flowing all the way down it, then my right arm, left leg, and right leg. It's a wonderful thing that I am still experimenting with and developing on my own, since like many of you I'm sure, you had no teachers. Nor am I experienced in any meditative or martial art. To me, I think it could be an universal energy that flows throughout the entire universe and through all of us, binding us together. It could also be many other things, so I try not to think of a definite form for it.

I also have a hypothesis that it is the same energy that allows us to float, fly, and manipulate energy in our dreams. Sometimes I am able to fly simply by willing myself forward by controlling my inner emotions. It's truly a mysterious thing. If any one of you have any more input or sources where I can help develop the ability more, please share. I couldn't quite explain everything in this entire message, but I hope it helps, enlightens, or atleast fascinates you. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 11/12/2010 22:59:20
this is a direct reply to the poster above but is the same for anyone who wants to find out more on the subject.

Now i'm not a "master" or anything but over the last half year or so of searching i have gathered alot of information and insight into the subject and like you Shinzou i agree with many of the things you mention.
In particular it's relation to "healing" or other....abilities for a lack of a better word.
I am looking for those of us who are more active,those of us who wish to discuss the ability and hopefully in the process learn things from each other.Ideally i would suggest adding me;

johnbrown406@msn.com

Messenger chat would be the best but  i'm willing to chat via email,just make sure you look at your junk mail etc (past ppl have made this mistake)
hope to hear from you all
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: adamlee on 30/12/2010 13:57:56
seems like the uncertainty principle applies here for me.

i can give myself goosebumps whilst imagining a wind energy surrounding my body, and also just by thinking on the pain in the world or simply tapping into that energy source without any action or thought. for me, it is impossible to say what gives me goosebumps, i can command it like others on the forum.

it definitely made a great party trick for a while, but the result of it was a disintegration of the importance i had placed on this ability. I am really glad to see others writing about this and discussing its origins, i just believe that its origins cannot be discussed in a way. that like the uncertainty principle with respect to measuring an atom, as soon as we begin to put this feeling into words it will no longer represent the truth.


love always,
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Chuckman on 04/01/2011 10:34:52
Wow where to start...I am now 26 but the first time I was able to control my goosebumps was when I was 8. It started with music, I would get all goose-bumpy when I listened to good music, at the time it was done subconsciously so I wanted to learn to control it. At a young age I wanted to learn to control the ability without the help of any music or foreign stimuli.

After 6 years of dedication and practice it became more then just goosebumps, I could enter a state of complete bliss and understanding, sometimes it can be a bit overwhelming. When I was 16 I met people in High school who could also do this. There were 3 of us and I taught them all I knew since they never experienced the bliss I was talking about. After teaching them how to attain the state of bliss I decided to give the ability a name and even gave a name to the type of person who would discover this trait.

I named it Nirvana, the energy and state that will take you to a state of complete joy and understanding....thus you are experiencing Nirvana. The name of the people who can consciously bring forth Nirvana are called "Realizers." A Realizer is a person who not only can summon Nirvana but also a person who can look outside the box, a person with morals. A Realizer is someone who is quick to learn the important things and leave behind the Bull sh**, we are a people who love our existence and seek to make the world a better place. We are all universally connected. The same energy that flows within us is the same energies of the Universe.

Not sure what else to say except that it seems I have found a few true realizers here (You know who you are) and if you wish to learn more then post and leave some info about yourself. I don't mean to toot my own horn but you won't find anyone on this forum who knows more about this then I do. I have a whole system and have been practicing this for years longer then anyone here. However that does not make me better then anyone, I was lucky to have a specific upbringing that is just too lucky. I want all humans on Earth to be happy because I love our existence...I love life and not just mine but all life.   

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: BoyOfOceanus on 19/01/2011 04:32:09
I've been playing around a bit with this while using music, am i the only one that when prolonging it for a bit, feels there eyes welling up with tears?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 21/01/2011 21:26:36
BoyOfOceanus, maybe it has to do with the tensing of the forehead/eyebrows which causes your eyes to open wider and/or to stop blinking. Just an idea.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: BoyOfOceanus on 22/01/2011 01:20:07
BoyOfOceanus, maybe it has to do with the tensing of the forehead/eyebrows which causes your eyes to open wider and/or to stop blinking. Just an idea.

It happens if i have my eyes open or closed
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 30/01/2011 23:22:56
BoyOfOceanus that's a common response to having too much stress hormones, releaving the stress in that manner.
You might wanna consider to not do it again or limit it, if you are often stressed.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: crow on 02/02/2011 08:44:54
My names Brad and i live in a Australia. I'm 22 and very interested in learning more about my abilities, id love to talk to people about this or learn from more advanced "goosebumpers"- my contact is bradtones@hotmail.com looking forward to exploring the possibilities :)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: MWShinzou on 08/02/2011 15:09:19
As for me, I can be reached at tailstails2k1@hotmail.com by MSN, or if you wish AIM (Pm me your request). I can also be emailed at kileehamasaki@gmail.com. I look forward to sharing my experiences with you.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: pumpkinvenom on 13/02/2011 03:52:47
ive often used the goosebumps thing to taste things while grocery shopping, to taste thru plastic, unfortunately it fails on metal...i suppose few have tried to use it externally or delve deeper in to what it can do..once i was herding sheep they of course giving me a hard time for several hours..i did the goosebumps thing, but injected hate and death into it..for 2 seconds a heard of 200+ head stood and looked me...then ran like i was a demon from hell..perhaps someone could interact with pets experimenting with the polar love and evil and record the reactions
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 17/02/2011 02:47:46
I got at least one thing explained so far;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_tympani_muscle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_tympani_muscle)

Here you can read that a small percentage can actually voluntarily tension a muscle in the ear vibrating the drums making a rumbling sound.
Guess I can do that.

Another explanation found, this is for GOOSEBUMPS under control:
http://jn.physiology.org/content/1/4/342.extract (http://jn.physiology.org/content/1/4/342.extract)
http://tobaccodocuments.org/ctr/HK1471168-1168.html (http://tobaccodocuments.org/ctr/HK1471168-1168.html)
http://www.uni-kiel.de/psychologie/emotion/team/kaernbach/publications/2010_ben&al_psychophysiol.pdf (http://www.uni-kiel.de/psychologie/emotion/team/kaernbach/publications/2010_ben&al_psychophysiol.pdf)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T4T-521NWHJ-1&_user=10&_coverDate=01/26/2011&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=ce63cda04b66434a364d36a280350d3a&searchtype=a#sec0010 (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T4T-521NWHJ-1&_user=10&_coverDate=01/26/2011&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=ce63cda04b66434a364d36a280350d3a&searchtype=a#sec0010)

So there has been research on this 'phenomenon'.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: hybrid125 on 12/03/2011 04:19:34
Wow, I just came across this forum.  I've never thought to google it in the past but there are a lot of people here that seem to have the same feelings that I've questioned over the years.  I'm a 30 year old male and I've been able to control my goosebumps for over a decade.  I can't remember when exactly it started, but nobody I've ever met has ever been able to do the same.  I have abnormal bursts of strength and energy sometimes triggering me to run or to move faster and harder.  Music sometimes triggers the goosebumps and/or energy.  I'm married and have two children.  My son is autisic.  I'm in I.T. If you saw me on the street, you would think I'm an everyday individual.  I'm a good looking guy with a not thin, but not muscular body type.  I drink somewhat heavly due to anxiety that's seems to be always prevelant.  I can't control my goosebumps as well when I drink, but when I'm completely sober, the control confuses and scares me.  Sometimes I feel like I'm invinicible, like I could plow through a foot of metal and come out the other side smiling.  I'm not that strong, but I can do somethings that suprise myself when I have that energy running through me.  If there is anyone else that can relate, please post.  There is something that is not "normal" about the way I feel.  I can see from some of the earlier posts, there are other people that feel like this too. Ψ
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: theskybeblue on 23/03/2011 01:00:49
Was interesting to find this posted online, I was wondering if anyone had tried practising this while looking in a mirror at your pupils.

This came up while I was talking with a friend about what physical processes where happening in my body when I do this, and we got talking about the likelihood of it beein adrenalin/noradrenaline that I was releasing and he asked if it also made my pupils dilate which had never occured to me as I can't see my own eyes

This got me thinking and later on I tried the goose pimple/rush thing whilst looking in the mirror at my pupils, It took me considerable concentration to achieve but my pupils did dilate along with the goose pimples

I Had to keep the "rush" going for about 20-30 seconds before my pupils dilated and they went back to normal very rapidly after I stopped, so keeping them dilated for a useful amount of time would take a lot of effort, definitely an impressive party trrick though not so much for me as my eyes are very dark so it's hard to see whether my pupils are dilated or not

Try it, it's seriously freaky, I just burst out laughing at myself when I managed to do it.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: BoyOfOceanus on 29/03/2011 23:48:07
XD well heres a little something I have to add, a little mind you. I was lucky enough to procure some shrooms, and of course I had to try this while I was on this, sadly I think I waited to long to try. The mushroom definilely dehydrates you, which with this I think being hydrated is essential. It was a nice relaxing trip that had me with tears as I listened to Funcadelic's Maggot Brain..... was beautiful. Outside of that I've been researching qigong to hopefully find a better focus on breathing and such, let me know if any of you guys notice anything new. I'll definitely be trying the mirror/pupils thing, that would be a major trip.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Shironin on 13/04/2011 23:44:40
Wow, I can't believe there are so many others out there.

I shall recount various experiences I have had while using this technique, but first, I'll explain how I go about creating the feeling.

I think it first began as an offset of music that made me feel a certain way. I realised that thinking about that particular music reignited the "waves" (as most people refer to the experience). After a while I relied on simply imagining that feeling to bring it on, and now it second nature. I do, however, do various things to intensify it. I notice it tends to be stronger when I close my eyes and focus on an imaginary spot between my eyes; in a way, as if I was trying hard to look at my third eye. Secondly, various positioning of my hands seem to create various feelings and effects (which I later found out formed part of a meditation technique called Kuji-In).

As many people have already mentioned, I use it to generate energy, but this does lead to me being drained. I have also noticed that on a much broader scale it has allowed me to control various bodily functions and exercise great deals of self control as is necessary. I have once gone for 3 days without eating while not feeling the effects of hunger. On another occasion I went for 3 days without needing to do number 2 (I never know how to say that graciously, lol :p) also without the urge to. And in my schooling career have used their toilets enough times to count on my hands. It seems that as long as I have the will to bring forth the power, it exists. I never have trouble bringing it out.

On a stranger note, I have also been able to simulate the feeling of being high. I was once pressured into drug use which I regretted, but am grateful for the experience. Now when I am around people who are high (which I really hate), I can mimic that exact same feeling to better deal with the situation and understand their mentality.

Also, not sure if this is exactly related, but I have been able to read people better as I have gotten older. I can tell personality traits, general interests and certain things about them which often creeps people out.

One other thing that may just be my imagination is that whenever a situation seems tense, it seems that I am able to change the whole atmosphere of a situation and the people involved. Its as if people forget what they are arguing about when I channel that energy or feeling with the intent of love. Uneasy situations make me feel uncomfortable very quickly, so it is almost like a reflex. I have seldom witnessed a fight in my life first hand and have never been involved in one. I have never seen a car accident happen first hand and very few people close to me and or related have died. Maybe I am just really lucky.

Anyway, just thought I'd give my input. I consider it quite a big part of my life as I use it very often in my day.

If anybody is keeping tabs of this all for reference sake, I am an 18 y/o white male from South Africa and I found out about the ability younger than what I can remember.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Blake on 24/04/2011 22:50:36
This has surprisingly been the most informative site about this 'thing' that I've tried to find anywhere. My name is Blake, I'm 18, I live in Australia and I think I can control my goosebumps.

I think I've somehow always been able to control it, and I thought it was normal, until I showed my friends. None of them could do it. Right now, I don't need cold weather, music, too much concentration, or any emotion to trigger it, I just think of the sensation and it happens- without trying to sound pretentious. After showing it around enough at school, I can control it fairly well (:

For me it starts at the base of the back of my skull, and it feels like a mass of energy covering me like a 'layer' and I can feel it travel all around my body. Without too much effort I create many layers for about a minute, then it gets difficult. If I do it for too long, or waste my energy too quickly, my scalp starts to hurt. I don't know if this is the same with anyone else, but even if the pulses of energy start at the base of the back of the skull, my whole scalp hurts afterwards. If there is any insight into this, it would be much appreciated.

Also after reading a lot of these posts, I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed that I think there are only guys that have posted, which may be a contributing factor to this skill. I think, in order for us to better understand this, there has to be some sort of connection between everyone who has this ability. I'm going to describe some random things about myself that I don't think I've shared with a lot of people - It may not be major, but its worth a shot.

In cold weather I can wear a singlet and shorts and not get cold. In hot weather I can wear a jumper and jeans and feel fine. As a child I was pretty much never sick. I don't need a lot of sleep to function (I usually have about 5 hours every night). I did not find it difficult being vegetarian for 2 years. I feel as though I'm lucky all the time - not fortunate, but actually lucky. I once started an assignment (in English) the night before, and found out that I scored the highest in our grade :| and even more recently, I went over to my friends house (for no particular reason at all) and got 30 dollars to drive him to another friends house, and then go to the movies with his sister (: after the movies we went to a pizza place and got a free dinner (3 pizzas, 3 garlic breads, desert, coke) then took her back to her place (: (: all in all a really lucky night. I have really good balance. I love being underwater. I can read people well. I am happiest when I'm using energy, and this goosebump ability helps me to relax/sleep/concentrate/pray. I feel as though I see the world differently to others and I strongly believe that everything happens for a reason.

hopefully this description has matched some things with anyone else reading the posts on this site.

if anyone wants to reply to this, just do so on this site (:

Cheers guys,
Blake.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: jpass21 on 25/04/2011 20:45:21
This forum is so awesome. I just assumed this and other abilities were common in everyone. I have long had the abilities to pop my own ears, focus my eyes at will, release goose bump waves, voluntarily activate the tensor tympani, and slow my heart rate. I remember as a child being perplexed at people who could not pop their own ears on airplanes or underwater.

While I have not noticed any increase in strength or speed, I have noticed a heightened concentration and an ability to  focus the energy in different areas. I have also often used the ability during exams, and have found that it aids in memory recall. I have always been excited about unexplained phenomena, and always hope to be a part of one.

I have also found that releasing the waves can get peoples attention, especially in a quiet room. During classes, I would try to get a certain person to look over at me. It worked about 80% of the time. Has anyone else tried this? It also works in reverse. If I concentrate on muting the energy I can bring an unusual stillness to my being and feel much less noticeable.

My email is [removed for your safety] if anyone wants to discuss this further. Good luck fellow goose bumpers!

[please use the PM system to have personal discussions with other members, regards Mod.]
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: jpass21 on 25/04/2011 20:53:06
Blake,

I share many if not all of the same qualities as you. I constantly feel lucky and can read those around me. I would not describe it as telepathy, but more like subconscious empathy. It is very difficult to describe in word, but I hope you all understand. I love being underwater as well, and when I get in the right frame of mind, can hold my breath for a very long time.

One quick story you might find interesting:

I was driving to Taco Bell with my friends when we got passed by a crappy old car. The car passed us in the oncoming lane of traffic after I would not allow him to cut in front of me at the light. Right as they passed, my friends began shouting and demanding I speed up and chase them down. I, however, told them that I would drive safely and normally and that the universe would take care of it. Not more than ten seconds later, A cop pulls out of a blind driveway and pulls the car over right in front of us.

While I did not know the future, I did have an extreme instinct not to overreact. This is only one instance and I have had many similar experiences. Does any of this apply to anyone else, or am I the kookiest one on the forum?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Blake on 27/04/2011 23:42:13
jpass21,

I'm not sure if others have had this resounding need to follow their instinct but occurrences like the one you described are common for me. In several instances I have had thoughts where I know for certain that I should do something or be somewhere - almost like I am supposed/meant to do it/bethere. A really bizarre example of this would have been when I was watching TV, I randomly turned it off, walked outside and stood next to the boot of my dads car, while he was unloading groceries. All the while I was literally watching my feet move, and thinking to myself (what am I doing?). I waited next to the car, while he was unloading, he didn't hear/see me, so I accidentally frightened him when he saw me. We had a bit of a laugh, I helped him with the rest, and we talked for about an hour about anything and everything. Its not that we don't talk, it was just good.

I did a test once, for my religion class, and we were discussing the types of roles that we would play in our class (leaders, helpers, teachers, etc.) and at the end of the test we all got back our results. I can't remember what the word was called, but I received a label (lets call it X) that no one else in the class received. After reading what X meant on the sheet, the description was: has a profound level thinking, has a good judge of character and follows their heart - will be important qualities for the end of days.

:| - the reaction from the last words

ALSO, it may be random, but considering my other post was relevant to someone, I think I should also mention a prominent random thing  abut me. I've noticed recently that if I leave my left hand in the same place for maybe half an hour, it starts to spasm. I'll hold it in front of my face and watch tensing nerve points (out of my control) control my fingers like a puppet master :| it is the weirdest feeling, not having control of a part of your body that you know is moving involuntarily..

just thought I'd mention it (: and feel free to comment

Cheers guys,
Blake.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: MattShay on 04/05/2011 02:04:00
hey guys. i'm 21 years old. for a very long time now i've been able to control my goosebumps as well. basically it feels like an enormous energy/shockwave that streams from the bottom of my skull and blankets my entire body. it started off with certain types of music. i don't exactly know how to describe it, mostly just some kind of tune that inspires power or something. i was always a big fan of the "one man achieving greatness" type movies since i was a little kid. when i was younger i discovered dragonball z, and honestly that is the closest kind of feeling i can relate it to is when they power up. and silly me, something about watching it makes me feel as if im powering up as well (goosebumps). now i've done lots and lots of research, and one thing i've heard is that it could be just a stronger sense of Qi, which every being has, yet we can actually call upon the energy at will. do it when you run: you run faster. lifting weights? strength increases temporarily. somebody mentioned controlling the tensor tympani. i too can do this. not sure if there is a relation, but still a nifty little trick when you're diving deep or on a plane.

basically, i can't get enough of the feeling. and i can't get enough of gaining more knowledge about this. my brother can do this as well. but anyone else thinks i'm out of it (until i make my hair stand, that freaks them out a bit).

also, it seems if you practice it daily, you can extend the strength and length of time to maintain it. i wonder how far this can be taken...

*edit* just to add a little bit, i dont know if its related, but ive also been able to dream things the night before they happen on a few occasions. also, a random movie will pop into my mind. and about 80% of the time when that happens, if i flip around the tv, its on. even something that hasnt been shown for years.

and on a side note, i've come to understand dogs can sense things we cannot. while practicing maintaining goosebumps a number of times, my dog has woken up from a nap and will come right up to me and whine with his tail wagging crazy as if i had just come home from being gone all day. i thought maybe it was coincidence, but it seems to happen too much to be just coincidence.

now i've spoken privately to a few members about this ability, and i've given them my crazy theories that have been shot down. i, however, believe anything is possible. if anyone has had a weird experience with this, please pm me. if there is something i can accomplish in this lifetime, it will be to fully understand just exactly what this ability is meant for, and why there are only a select few who can do it.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 04/05/2011 21:12:55
It started with music, I would get all goose-bumpy when I listened to good music, at the time it was done subconsciously so I wanted to learn to control it. At a young age I wanted to learn to control the ability without the help of any music or foreign stimuli.

I think it first began as an offset of music that made me feel a certain way. I realised that thinking about that particular music reignited the "waves" (as most people refer to the experience). After a while I relied on simply imagining that feeling to bring it on, and now it second nature.

The way it started for me was exactly the same as Shironin! Playing music, then thinking about the music, then imagining the feeling, and now purely at will.
It seems like music was definitely the starting point for a lot of us.


Also after reading a lot of these posts, I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed that I think there are only guys that have posted, which may be a contributing factor to this skill.

I had emitted that hypothesis on page 5, but I was wrong (Pumpkin is female, same page).
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 04/05/2011 21:21:43
MattShay: It indeed does feel like the Dragonball Z "powering up".

I don't think it is related to the tensor tympani. Some people can control that and not goosebumps. We should also ask people here who can control their tensor tympani (I can).

I think it's very interesting that your brother can do it. Did one "teach" the other?

Whenever I launch a "wave", it lasts several seconds. I can "sustain" it by sending another wave before the first one is over, in which case it becomes constant in a way.

I don't see how this would be related to dreaming/precognition. I believe that most of the wacky stuff that people mention here (sorry, I'm a skeptic) is just the result of a cognitive bias. Your movie thing probably doesn't happen 80% of the time, it's just that when it does happen, it becomes "meaningful" and you remember it, whereas if you think of a random movie and it doesn't pop up, you forget about it.

I think the reason only a select few can do this is: training + possibly genetics.
I don't believe the ability is "for" anything, we can just do it, it's just a kind of biofeedback, just like controlling one's pulse (which I can't do, though I never really tried), etc.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: MattShay on 06/05/2011 20:33:02
I actually had no idea my brother could do it until I mentioned it to him, shortly after I found out it wasn't a common thing.

I'm sure the movie thing is unrelated, just thought it was something fun to throw out there. But yes, most of the time if a random movie pops into my head, it is in fact on television.

Next time you go for a workout, just try it. You will understand what I'm talking about. It almost seems like an instant dose of steroids.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: jpass21 on 11/06/2011 08:05:12
Blake,

I too have noticed spasms in my left hand. This is especially common after I find myself daydreaming or concentrating on something for an extended period. I also get spasms in my left eye and shoulder. Occasionally on the right side as well, but more often than not on the left. I have not asked my brother about his abilities but will be sure to do so when I see him. I don't know about running faster or lifting heavier objects, but there is definitely something interesting happening. I am also intrigued with your ability to know what is on TV. This is happened to me a few times, though probably not more than can be written off by coincidence. However, with music on the radio I frequently find a song that has been in my head. Like you said, it will often be an old or obscure song and I am often surprised that it is on the radio at all.

I am also beginning to understand that much of the world occurs to me in patterns. I believe that anyone could pick up on these, but for some reason it comes more easily to me. I wonder if you experience some of the same phenomena. It is almost as if certain periods of time are chapters in a book dotted with similarly themed events. Once I notice the pattern, it becomes relatively easy to predict when the theme will play out again. Then, at a certain point, the pattern will fade and another will emerge.

Back to the goosebumps, I have found that if I practice even basic Qi Gong while activating the goosebumps, I can create a lasting tingle in my fingertips. While practicing, I have also found that I can feel the waves being directed by the motions. I am wondering if you or anyone else is able to isolate the bumps to one arm or the other, or move it down to the legs. In my practice I have recently become able to raise goosebumps near my face, which is something very new to me.

Anyways, I know that's a lot but I don't get on here often.

Joe
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: beatyouonce on 29/06/2011 16:58:47
Thouv I was the same way, start with Music then closing my eyes concentrating and now I can do it at will at any given time. But I've also worked out how to control where it goes, i see a lot of people saying it comes down from the back of the head and washes over them. For me at first this was the only way, now I can control it to go to one arm or one leg, or back up into my head. When I sent it back to my head I feel a heat and tingly inside my skull near the back of my head as well as goosebumps on my skull.

Also has anyone noticed that if you do this a lot you get hot? I've had instances where I've felt hot after this like i had to stop to cool down a  bit.

Also after you play around with this, that you slowly are unable to, like you run out of steam, then you wait a bit and again you can.


Seriously what is this useless ability or is it just us taking our first baby steps toward a new evolution in human history?

P.S anyone notice that it kind of wakes you up and or feels pretty good?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 01/07/2011 21:46:53
You guys should check this out, a paper by cognitive scientist David Huron:
http://www.cogsci.msu.edu/DSS/2008-2009/Huron/HuronFrisson.pdf (http://www.cogsci.msu.edu/DSS/2008-2009/Huron/HuronFrisson.pdf)
It is very interesting.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 02/07/2011 03:12:20
You guys should check this out, a paper by cognitive scientist David Huron:
http://www.cogsci.msu.edu/DSS/2008-2009/Huron/HuronFrisson.pdf (http://www.cogsci.msu.edu/DSS/2008-2009/Huron/HuronFrisson.pdf)
It is very interesting.

A very interesting read,i'm glad to see people are looking at this thoroughly now,the paper does a good job of including things.It's a good start but more needs to be done

I just wish we could all help in some way,who knows might find some more answers?

Don't know about you but i tended to get the impression that it was saying that those of us who can do Frission (not a word i'd heard before now but i guess i'll start using it)essentially had better acuity and perception (well within the moment we do this)

Perhaps if we summed it up our perception is more highly tuned?It'd ring true with a great many things people have stated here and have either thought they were "powers" or psychic etc.

If as it seems we are able to detect things more acutely (particularly concerning the section of sound within 3000-4000 mega hertz  as mentioned) it could account for alot.

Your thoughts people?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 08/07/2011 17:30:05
Here's another article I found:
Grewe et al. (2007), Listening to Music as a Re-Creative Process: Physiological, Psychological and Psychoacoustical Correlates of Chills and Strong Emotions
http://musicweb.hmt-hannover.de/kopiez/Grewe-etal(2007)Chills.pdf

Here are some interesting passages:

Blood and Zatorre (2001) used PET to reveal the brain systems associated with chill reactions when listening to music. They found structures such as the nucleus accumbens, the ventral tegmental area, thalamus, insula, and anterior cingulate to be more active during a chill reaction, while activity in the amygdala and ventral medial prefrontal cortex was reduced.
[...]
Participants completed three character inventories: the Temperament and Character Inventory TCI, the Sensation Seeking Scale SSS-V and the Affective Neuroscience Personality Scales ANPS. We compared responses from chill nonresponders and chill responders using a Mann-Whitney U test; two significant differences between the two groups were revealed. First, chill responders were less thrill and adventure seeking (SSS-V). Second, chill responders were more reward dependent (TCI).
The musical experience and habit questionnaires revealed that chill responders differed from chill nonresponders in several ways. First, chill responders indicated higher familiarity with classical music. Second, chill responders rated music as more important in their lives. Third, chill responders identified more with the music they preferred. Fourth, chill responders more readily listened to music in every day life in a situation similar to the experimental setting.
[...]
There is an interesting finding from Blood and Zatorre (2001) showing that during chills, the activity of the thalamus and the anterior cinguli is elevated. Both brain systems are involved in attention.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 08/07/2011 19:12:45
And here is the Blood & Zatorre article mentioned in my previous message:
Blood & Zatorre (2001), Intensely pleasurable responses to music correlate with activity in brain regions implicated in reward and emotion
http://www.zlab.mcgill.ca/docs/Blood_and_Zatorre_2001.pdf

Some passages:

Subjective reports of chills were accompanied by changes in heart rate, electromyogram, and respiration. As intensity of these chills increased, cerebral blood flow increases and decreases were observed in brain regions thought to be involved in reward/motivation, emotion, and arousal, including ventral striatum, midbrain, amygdala, orbitofrontal cortex, and ventral medial prefrontal cortex. These brain structures are known to be active in response to other euphoria-inducing stimuli, such as food, sex, and drugs of abuse. This finding links music with biologically relevant, survival-related stimuli via their common recruitment of brain circuitry involved in pleasure and reward.
[...]
The pattern of activity observed here in correlation with music-induced chills is similar to that observed in other brain imaging studies of euphoria and/or pleasant emotion.
[...]
Thus, activation of the reward system by music may maximize pleasure, not only by activating the reward system but also by simultaneously decreasing activity in brain structures associated with negative emotions.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: zeruge on 13/07/2011 00:08:40
Hi im new my names jeff I see so many questions and not much help on answers so I hope this helps all of understand alot more I wasent born with this gift I trained myself to do it when I was young off of a feelng that there was something more there to us human beings
Now im not gona gudge or anything im just gona say what ive lerned and what I know to help u all out this gift is very real and no I didnt start out with being able to do it all I felt was something there and I grabbed that feelibg and held on and kept practicing eventually it showed it self and grew stronger u get weird feelings like u can fly but nothin happens set things on fire telekenisis no I havent achieved these but I still believe it possible controling heart rate temperature moving the electricity to different parts etc all possible and you gain skill and power the more u use it concentrate and develope it healing is a definet not only ureself but others as well holding it longer to produce it can be done but is exausting youre suply recharging in places with nature help so much and are refreshing it seems to eminate from lower spine and travel up into the brain and then into the rest of the body all of it ull also hit a stage where ure brain feels like its on fire but dosent hurt or do damage thats a highhtened level if u will also for scientific people u can be of great help the right.left rear lower portion of the brain just behind the ear and a littlevabove is the concentratiin of its power ad well it can be measure on an osilliscope and volt meter as well as thermal and eeg I lack funds for tyese machines to lerb more but ive seen other doctors tests but they wont give me the time of day for results if we are to lern the full extent of this power we need to find out more as well it is my belief that we can if advance far enf lern to become imortal by using energy from other things and soakin the energy up or posibly transfering bodies etc but we need to find info on ourselfs figure out how to amplify it imency with technology I think we are the new breed of human but everyone can lern to make the transition to open their minds up they dont call it the age of enlightnment for nothing lol feel free to email me for more questions and by the way the more of use that are in one place the stronger u become ive proven it oh and by the way music is hugh it amplifys ure power something to do with the way u feel and harmonics of the sound reacting to the silica in ure body which does dimish if. Dont eat protien and fiber
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 13/07/2011 00:37:48
"it is my belief that we can if advance far enf lern to become imortal by using energy from other things and soakin the energy up or posibly transfering bodies etc"
"I think we are the new breed of human"

Oh please. Drop the mysticism.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: zeruge on 13/07/2011 02:59:54
Oh please. Drop the mysticism.
 
funny why are you even here if you have no open mind dont you see how many people are physically changing mentally and otherwise whats a matter feel left out
 disprove me other wise or shut it
energy never dies energy, always changes form, always finds a way to evolve its in all living things why cant we find a way to break our shells and evolve to become something better and prove that im wrong ive dreamt things that become real all the time ive healed people i and others created physical proof from a fealing if youre a bible thumper then im either an angel or a demon or a saint bla bla bla u believe a god walked on water and moses parted the red sea but uve never seen sh1t and yet proof stands before u in a form u can see touch and feel and measure and ure blind either or im not normal and i dont care to be i dreamt and felt this that it was possible and now it is u tell me otherwise that i havent evolved somehow
and did u even read the whole post that you can also measure this gift in extensive testing that can prove the changes


http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/zap.html

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA

http://www.caroleverett.com/ce-diag.htm



do youre research and lern something rather than toss it aside anyone can lern and grow and evolve


as well here is a list of common effects people seem to have in many posts and sites ive read

commonalities

well i can relate to alot of you but also can give you some advice it seems all of use have all or somethings in common and either were residual effects of experimentation or were evolving but 90 percent have one major in common we all played with electricity as a kid were shocked or lightning struck close by
the other common grounds are

got shocked by electricity when younger
can pick up thoughts that are garbled when younger
filters out and becomes clearer when older if you concentrate
watches die
interference with machines lights etc
knowledge apears in the head
can sence others like us
brain in the right left lower side feels active
predetermining that the phone rings etc info
hair on body standing up with bumps when flucuating when you lern to control it
more heat output than normal
severly alergic to aluminum
able to help heal ailments to others
can predict or see things that will happen in dreams or daydreaming

some of us have all of these some dont but i expect you will i think by alloying ourselfs to explore and gain knowledge we can better understand ourselfs and the gifts we have by the way the more of us in one place there are especially in close proximity the stronger the output when concentrated ive lerned alot over the yrs and still wana know so much more lack the cashflow but i try i do know you can measure youre output on an osiliscope it will measure higher than normal people and i think an eeg with also show what is happening somethin im working on but slow go doctors laugh at me when i ask for that kinda test also music helps make it more powerful
if you ever wana chat just shoot me an email





Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 13/07/2011 03:43:28
chill guys you should at least both let each other believe whatever they want.As far as this ability goes you tend to find people lean towards mysticism or science but in the end we are all just looking for answers.

i mean as far as "mysticism" goes you can trace what sounds like this ability to yoga (prana etc) which dates almost 2000 years.As for science we seem to have only just started looking at it seriously thanks to some of the reports you've provided they at least tell us one thing;we aren't crazy,this ability exists.

What it does and why we can do it etc etc....it's just going to take time to figure it out.However like all things science and faith will always be at odds with each other.

Keep an open mind either way folks,lets just make sure we ain't arguing with each other because that gets no where.

As for mentioning about us having experience with electricity....well not me directly but my great grandmother and my dad have both been hit by lightening...for whatever the worth of that info is.

I'll be reading any and all info posted here,i do think it's ok to believe anything about this ability but lets try and prove these things while we are at it.

EDIT:Let me state my viewpoint firstly

I am open to some of the less conventional stuff aswell as the scientific side of things but i strive for a balance between both,if we can heal ourselves i'd expect to see a scientific experiment proving that to be the case.I think in reality it has to be this way because we'll never be taken seriously if we  just say we can do these things but can't back it up

i reviewed all the links you posted  zeruge and i'm sorry to say i don't see their relevance or credibility in relation to our ability.

I mean for example project MKULTRA;it's only relevant if your american for starters,not to mention you'd have to have been a subject in MKULTRA  for any of this to be useful.

The electric serbian;that type of testing was carried out at his house with his own equipment;it could have been modified.As for anything regarding CHI.

Well i like to believe it exists and that people could be healed by it.At the same time the video shown shows nothing.Infact CHI healing and other Oriental practises are notorious for  bending the truth and not having a controlled experiment.Thouv has at least posted pertinent information that is specifically described as what many have us can do ,albeit when listening to music but again nearly all of us have said we first learned with music,it's also got citations and sources listed in the document showing it's legitimacy.If your going to post "proof" then make sure it's credible and related to this.

I don't mind in the slightest you think that healing could be  involved,it's certainly true the mind is a powerful tool capable of doing many things in extreme conditions but at the same time you can't say you have proof when in reality all it is is circumstantial evidence and unrelated information.

Some of the commonalities like you mentioned some of us do or don't have but to be fair if your going to make a commonalities list it should apply 100% to us all for example i don't think being allergic to aluminum should be there.I'm not and am willing to bet nearly all of us aren't bothered by it-it may infact just be an allergy completely un-related.

Likewise in a previous post you mention not eating protein or fibre...i don't even know why that would make a difference seeing as nearly all of us do eat it and again are able to this ability still.

I want to be fair to you and all people posting but you seem to be jumping the gun and making rash conclusions and finally your posts could do with being spell checked and paragraphed so that we can understand you more easily-it's hard to read a wall of text.

That all said if you could video your tests etc then we might be willing to take certain things on board.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: zeruge on 13/07/2011 04:46:08
yes im well aware that my gramer sucks
and i agree we shouldnt fight even if its in a maner that dosent seem like we are with punts my spelling sucks but im not stupid
for one the  term gift is to help the newbies to this because they can train their mind better to scept the fact whats happening to them and better understand it also wroks better if there more open to lerning thnx for ruining that one for them by the way for
 2 ive trained several people and had sucess but not everyones mind can handle the change
for
3 the list is of info it isnt proof its to help people understand there not alone and things have been documented out there that have the same guid lines as we do or are close and also info on ideas to test for ourselfs so we can determine if there true or not its a place to start which is better than uve offered for test

4 as far as the list of comonalities goes it is from other chatsites and forums like this one who have things in common
 
5 lightning is relevent beacuase either u were born with it developed it after and electric shock eg peeing on a fence being struck by lighting or having it strike right next to you like i did its all usually there somewhere
as for the project it was done in canada up untill the 1990s read the links will ya and it was just something i found that may have something to do with it or not

as far as healing goes dont even go there who have you healed by the way i regularly heal my wife shes constantly sick and i keep her healty she has ashma and animia
for 2 i kept my dad whos heart was 74 percent shot for 10 yrs and only half a valve open for that period alive and well untill he finaly had his time and his bodie could no longer sustain i used my own life force infused with his to keep him going with regular intervals
as well as many others who come to me regularly to be healed and made better call it what u want but it helps when transfering energy into them you bond with them on a energy level yes it drains and yes it costs but its my life force to give the average human in my research has 120 yrs worth to use prove me wrong dont just say it by the way how long have you had the abilitie cause im betting youre a begginer not a seasoned person

as far as ice man yes its a video but he trained in beating the cold however the relevance is that he mentions his right lower rear side of the brain he feels is active and thats comon when ure stron enuf

as far as test if youre wanting me to record and show results id be glad go buy me the equipment and ill do it oscilliscope is 5 g thermal equipment and and a 50g eeg machine and id be glad to or get a doctor to agree to test me ill post that sh1t everywhere proven to show or not i want answers too and like anyone else i have limited means to do so and by the way go ahead and try recording ureself with a normal camer charged up u produce an em field that disrupts the video and it skips shuts down etc i have tried riguiously to do tests on smaller bassis

but i dont see you giving alot of helpfull answers to get some of this stuff done so be helpfull not argumentative 

and just in case u didnt know there are many different roads you can lern i chose the healing path all these yrs and dumped alot of the other abilities to lern this one to its fullest focus my efforts in the main direction that would help people the most 

and i also didnt realize ure not the same person as before my bad but dosent really excuse either and did you scroll down the list on that link

Canadian experiments
 
The experiments were exported to Canada when the CIA recruited Scottish psychiatrist Donald Ewen Cameron, creator of the "psychic driving" concept, which the CIA found particularly interesting. Cameron had been hoping to correct schizophrenia by erasing existing memories and reprogramming the psyche. He commuted from Albany, New York to Montreal every week to work at the Allan Memorial Institute of McGill University and was paid $69,000 from 1957 to 1964 to carry out MKULTRA experiments there. In addition to LSD, Cameron also experimented with various paralytic drugs as well as electroconvulsive therapy at thirty to forty times the normal power. His "driving" experiments consisted of putting subjects into drug-induced coma for weeks at a time (up to three months in one case) while playing tape loops of noise or simple repetitive statements. His experiments were typically carried out on patients who had entered the institute for minor problems such as anxiety disorders and postpartum depression, many of whom suffered permanently from his actions.[33] His treatments resulted in victims' incontinence, amnesia, forgetting how to talk, forgetting their parents, and thinking their interrogators were their parents.[34] His work was inspired and paralleled by the British psychiatrist William Sargant at St Thomas' Hospital, London, and Belmont Hospital, Surrey, who was also involved in the Intelligence Services and who experimented extensively on his patients without their consent, causing similar long-term damage.[35]
 
It was during this era that Cameron became known worldwide as the first chairman of the World Psychiatric Association as well as president of the American and Canadian psychiatric associations. Cameron had also been a member of the Nuremberg medical tribunal in 1946–47.[36]
 
Naomi Klein states in her book The Shock Doctrine that Cameron's research and his contribution to the MKULTRA project was actually not about mind control and brainwashing, but about designing "a scientifically based system for extracting information from 'resistant sources.' In other words, torture." Stripped of its bizarre excesses, Dr. Cameron's experiments, building upon Donald O. Hebb's earlier breakthrough, laid the scientific foundation for the CIA's two-stage psychological torture method


as well i think the closest person to unlock the secrets of the human energy power etc was nikola tesla his works on even small thins corispond to human energy and by the way help when low
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_globe
especially in a city where theres not as much nature to recharge
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: zeruge on 13/07/2011 05:34:19
http://usahitman.com/sai-electric/
more sites and links

http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/cells-tissues/human-body-make-electricity.htm

oh and for fiber and silica and protien youre body uses more and more if ure using more energy ull crave more meat and salt etc when u charge ureself all day long

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/bio99/bio99800.htm


this info should help when doing test with voltmeters its a small start
A human body can only generate between 10 and 100 millivolts so if thats normal anything above should be wicked cool ya
the human frequency is hz
gota figure out if we produce ac or dc current how much or if both and then amplifier should be easy
so seems to be dc voltage if u show 99.9 dc at 200mv with prong in right hand negative and left pos
and then do other way around it shows abought -22
hope this info is helping and yes used comparison person they had average 20 and lower
if anyone is interested in asking this will be the most importan site youll ever need
and if you ask ill tell you why
http://lateblt.tripod.com/xtals.htm
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: zeruge on 13/07/2011 12:02:09
On behalf of the Moderators:
This board is for 'Physiology & Medicine' discussions, so please all keep on the topic stated.  If you want discuss your own theories that have no current mainstream scientific backing then please start a thread in new theories (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?board=18.0).

The thread is long enough already without it being hijacked.

Thanks.


you really are a <insulting language removed> people has a right to know and this discussion is abought goosebumps people who need answers and you just crushed any help they woulda got but u leave that other jackasses stuff on whats the point in doing the research if you just burry it and take it away for people to even have a chance of understanding tell ya one thing when i achieve what im researching  people like you will be the first to get a taste of what u deny everyone else such a joke this board is if you cant even help the people that are so stuck or lost with no answer thanx again government jackass ****
and by the way it was on topic and u cant get scientific backing unless you can talk abought it moron and get people to run tests with info that was provided to start some wheres u idiot u know the stuff u deleted  shrunk

Any more abusive language on the forum will leave to you being banned from the forum - please read the site's AUP if you are in any doubt about this or other reasons for you earlier -irrelevant- posts being shrunk.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 13/07/2011 17:04:56
Well zurge where do i start;this isn't an attack on you rather  an attack on your "proof"

Nearly non of your responses deal with the points i raised.Firstly i stated that your list of commonalities should be the same across the board.I'm not allergic to aluminum and i've never been electrocuted therefor it's not a commonality and yes also means that it has no relevance simply because if i and many others can do it without having a electrocuted background  it simply means it's nothing to do with it.

As for MKULTRA i DID read it and last time i checked the CIA had no jurisdiction over Canada.EITHER way i'm neither American or Canadian so your explanation is flawed.Has for healing i never said i could,just that i have an open mind to it.

As for "your research" and saying we have roughly 120 years of "life force" what PROOF do you have?

If you've done research you'll be able to provide proof and answers to questions such as what testing and experimentation you did.

I have to admit you made me laugh when you said i'd have to buy YOU the equipment so you could prove any of your wild ideas.Any research institute interested in frisson would no doubt love to test on you so by all means go prove me wrong show them you can heal and use the force and whatever other crazy ideas you have.

Oh and when you copy and paste stuff from wikipedia perhaps YOU should read it.For example it states that when the experiments were shifted up to Canada they'd gotten rid of the mind control aspect of research and instead focused on ways of extracting reliable info from prisoners IE TRUTH SERUM as stated in the last paragraph of what you copied.

Interestingly of note the scientist responsible became chairman of the world psychiatric association....maybe you should go talk to him


there's already scientific backing into frisson btw

Within science circles this ability is referred to as Frisson and there have been a number of papers and experiments released regarding this ability and it's relation to music etc.

Look it up on google scholar.


As for your last links.

The SLIders thing is dodgey at best."We can do it but just not in a test environment".Also i clicked on the source for where the website got it's info from and it lead to another websiote which was exactly the same that didn't cite where they'd got the info so i question it's legitimacy.

the 2nd link is just obvious,anyone who's done biology or physics knows the body uses electric pulses IE nervous system etc.I just fail to see the point mentioning it.It doesn't say anything about healing people or super powers or frisson.

And the 3rd link is along the same lines,yes we know about nerve impulses but it's not related in any form to Frisson.

The final link seems to have no relevance.


No offense but you just seem to be copying and pasting anything and everything in a vain attempt to say you have all the answers when you clearly don't and any info you do get is then taken out of context and you try to connect them to frisson on nothing more than your word that it's to do with it.

Lastly i would suggest not returning here.If you can't discuss things without insulting the mods and other members you should set up your own forum so you can talk conspiracy theories and crazy ideas to your hearts content with other like minded people.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gizem on 16/07/2011 22:46:22
I can get myself goosebumps like everybody described and like a lot of person on the board i don't remember when it was.
I'm a girl, 17 years old.
I searched for tensor tympani in google and i think i can do it, too. If it's rumbling sound(like you get after flying in a plane or under pressure).And i can make clicking sounds in my ears (like you are gulping). When I was 1,5 years old I got an electric shock from an outlet.
I don't really believe it's about being super human or something. But it may power up our hormones for a limited time, so we feel good and relieved. Maybe it helps recovering I don't have any experiences about it.
Someone said a movie pops up in their head and they see it on TV after that. It happens to me, too. Like a music i think and hear it through the day. Or thinking about a person and see them a little after that. But i think i read about in somewhere. It was saying a lot of thoughts pops in your head and when you see one of them in your life, you say "Oh i was just thinking about it!" A lot of movies and persons pops up in our mind and when some of them comes reality you say everything comes your mind becomes reality. So i don't think humans have precognition.
I think our ability has anything common with electric people. They don't have electric in their control but we can control our ability with our wills.
My mother and brother can't get theirselves goosebumps or Frisson (i don't like this word!)
My mother said it would be about "you learned about tat parts of your body"
I would like to know if it's genetic or learnable.
All of these projects about music giving chills not voluntarily chills.
Waiting to hear from you guys. I really want to know if this ability is good or bad.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: wnxunix on 17/07/2011 01:40:06
I only registered to post this ... you might not see me again, unlikely ....


I have this ability .... Could do it when I was young and I started doing it again recently, last month or just over .... OK ... pay carefull attension .... I figured out what this really is ... and ... it is potentaily dangerious if your in poor health or malnurished ... dont want to bog you down with extra info but I'll mention a few thing you can check ... I went on a slow carbs diet recently for leveling out my sugar consumption and spikes but I miss calculated and accidently slipped into ketosis (not enough carbs) about a week into the diet I got the wave from my neck going down my spine and could hold my gooosebumps, then I was pritty much just going "flame on" whenever I wanted and turning them on at will ... I remeber haveing this senation alot as a kid ... I though it was a good thing because it does make you feel powerful and indestructable ... do you want to know what is happening here? your brain needs uses ATP as energy when it doesnt get enough from nutrition for whatever reason ... it's basically sending out cortisol (I'm guessing, as I dont know the hormone or what path it takes) to break down mustle for pure ATP via the ubiquitin-proteasome pathway or something similar .... what this does is burn mustle for energy ... not good if you get into a bad habbit of it .... I suppose ok if your in good health ... So with the reduced insulin because of my low sugar diet my mustle broke down fairly quickly before I know what was happening .... I was waking up very alert after 2-3 hour sleeping ... id taken some plaputations because of the diet so I switch back to my regular diet after 12 to 13 days but I must have messed my gut bacteria up in the process because my food wasnt digesting properly for 3-4 weeks after ... I was in hospital for a few days last week with complications (taking body building supplments and low blood calcium) ... so now I'm recovering slowely but hopefully surely, yes I made a dumb mistake trying this hypoglycemic diet but I did discover somethings .... the body builds and breaks down mustle all the time, maybe nothing to worry about if your in good health to flame on whenever you really need it (emergancy) other than that dont get into the habbit of doing this ... it is basically send out the signal to feed on mustle ... why do you get goosebumops when your cold? is also breaking down mustle for more energy to cope with the cold .... my problem was it took my body a month to switch back to using carbs for energy and even now I get the odd unwelcome senation and I have to halt it .... I'm not trying scare or worry any one .... I read this topic last month before I got myself into the condition that I am now and didn't feel the need to talk about my goosebump ability but I wanted to come back just incase somebody has found themself in my situation or just runs into problems assoicated with the ability like low blood calcium ... I have not verified this maybe still mal absorption in my gut or in part because I had several test dont and whenever I overused the flame this is whenever I got the low calcium results, maybe coincidance but please take care and keep and eye on yourself ...

take care fellow flamers
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 17/07/2011 05:28:04
Hi Gizem

Yeah i don't really like frisson either  as far names go but it does seem to be the main name used in scientific circles.

As you point out the research is for music induced frisson and not induced frisson,however it's the closest scientific proof we have and scans and test and have been done showing things such as endorphins and other hormones being secreted aswell as what parts of the brain are active during the ability.

It stands to reason that music frisson and induced frisson are similar (if not the same) in which case we have some answers ( i would urge you to read the first thing Thouv posted as a link)

Just incase it's abit much to read i'll post the key points below;
Higher activity is seen in:

Nucleaus accumbens
Ventral Tegmental area
Thalamus
Insula
Anterior cingulate
 
A decrease was detected in;
amgydala and ventral medial prefrontal cortex

There's more within the reports but basically if you look into each of the above you'll find some answers i believe.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 17/07/2011 16:32:39
Here is another article that brings up a few interesting points:
Grewe et al. (2011), Chills in different sensory domains: Frisson elicited by acoustical, visual, tactile and gustatory stimuli
http://musicweb.hmt-hannover.de/kopiez/Grewe-etal(2011)ChillsDifferentDomains.pdf

"Additionally, chills were elicited by mere mental self-stimulation – even without any external stimulus.
[...]
"As a surprising result, 17 participants [out of 36] reported chills without any external stimulus, by only recalling emotional events. These ‘mind’ chills were reported by participants as varying extremely widely in both valence and arousal.
[...]
That chills can be elicited without any external stimulus suggests that cognitive activity alone may be sufficient to lead to chills.
[...]
In our current study we show that chills can be elicited by mere cognitive activity without any external stimulus."

The article in itself is not very interesting, but I thought it interesting because it is the only one that I've seen so far that mentions the ability to summon the goosebumps independently of any external stimulus (and therefore, at will).
Even more interesting, 17 out of the 36 participants in the study had those "mind chills", which is about 50%. This seems to indicate that this ability of ours is widespread.

A previous study (too lazy to look for it right now) showed that when subjected to some music, some people have chills and some people don't. This corresponds to my personal experience when I try to explain my ability to others: a certain number of them know what I'm talking about when I mention chill/thrill/frisson/goosebumps (but can't do it at will), whereas some others never have had the experience of goosebumps/chills when subjected to something beautiful or emotional.

If we keep that in mind and look at the result of Grewe's experiment, it would be fair to emit the hypothesis that a lot of people who can get goosebumps in general also can get them without any external stimulus.
I think the reason that when we mention our ability to others they are surprised, and that we don't ever meet anyone who has our ability, is possibly that it has not occured to them to throw themselves into a state of mind which would elicit goosebumps, or if they have, they did not reflect upon it, or have not trained/toyed/experimented with the sensation as much as we have.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 17/07/2011 18:46:58
Hi Thouv

Not sure if it equates to 50% given the fact that they were probably all chosen to do musical frisson with a few selected who couldn't even do musical frisson.

You might for example find that 17 of those people can do induced frisson whilst a larger number can do both or just musical,perhaps because they DO require external stimuli.

Not sure why but i seem to have a number around 25% in my head (may have read it somewhere)

Also i think i remembered reading that women seem to be the ones who can do musical frisson more but from my overall experience of talking to people who can do self induced i've only seen about 2 women versus about 30 men.

Still like you say an important piece as it's directly related to all of us.

The real question is whether or not there's a difference between musically induced and self induced frisson

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Goosebumper on 23/07/2011 13:38:38
Hey!
Firstable sorry for my English  [:I]
I´m also one of the "goosebumpers" and as many of you, I also tought that I´m the only one until I googled that subject and found this forum.
I have always had controlle over it, as long as I remember. I read that many of you can hold these chills for longer than minute but I only feel them 4-5 seconds. I can create another wave also, but next ones come usually weaker than first one. It starts behind my neck and spreads down my spine, then into my hands and legs and always makes my face sweat. Then few sec. later skin on my legs and hands gets really cold and goosebumps appear. I don´t really like to do it often, because it makes a bad feeling in my chest(heart?). I would like to know if anybody else have these bad feelings in their heart(it´s physical) or is it only my problem?
I have used it only on really hot days, when I feel that I need to cool myself down. It really helps. And somehow I have always known, that this ability can cure people. So when I was about 8-9 years old, my sister had an eye surgery and after that I held her hand and let my chills into her body. Amazingly she didn´t feel no pain. I have also cure my mother and some closest relatives and they all said the same- it can reveal or take away the pain.
After my father´s death, when I was 16, I started to see auras around objects and people. I also have ability to feel energys with my hands(include my own chakras). And like someone here said before, that somekind of thouht comes into your head and next moment it really happens, so this thing happens to me all the time too.  [:D]
I don´t know if its all connected somehow.
By the way, I´m female. So not only boys in here  [;)]

All the best! 

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: morycce on 24/07/2011 08:01:23
Hi,
I've watched this thread grow over the years and always feel relieved to know that more and more people are out there with this ability.

I'm a 23 year old male in Bay Area, California.

I can cause goosebumps at will,though, ive never experienced it on my legs before. I started off calling them by rolling my eyes in back of my head, and after regularly practicing meditation, I can now cause them to occur at will. The "waves of electricity" as people have described them, is the same for me. The waves cause me to feel a euphoric feeling and I regularly get a wave every hour or so whether I called for the goosebumps or not.

I've started to use the goosebumps as a radar for when I find something that is very true for me, that literally "resonates" with me. The past couple hours of reading up on many of your posts have kept me constantly in goosebumps  [:D] ; I feel very good right now.

I've never experienced any signs of increased strength or nullification of pain as others(I just have a high pain-threshold not linked to VIG) , but like others I can also do small things like : raise 1 eyebrow, move my ears, control my heartrate (fun in doctors office), and cause shocks to people occasionally.

I've practiced Eagle Claw martial arts and a bit of Qi Gong (currently learning Tai Chi).
I don't know whether VIG is related to psychic abilities, but I have over the past 5 years honed my precognitive abilities to being an everyday thing, as well as have had success with beginner telekinesis excercises (spinning the PK wheel clockwise,then counter clockwise, under a jar from across the room).

In regards to posts concerning the metaphysical and "supernatural", I used to be a very big skeptic until trying my own experiments with things like precognition, telekinesis, auric sight, etc. Now I know western science is severely limited in its understanding of non-physical phenomena and doesn't want to deal with things it cannot explain in its already fragmented view of the universe (relativity vs quantum physics). Fortunately, things are changing in that regard thanks to the internet ferrying more and more information and thus communication between scientists (and people like us) across the world.

I hope this thread continues and thought it was finally time for me to contribute my own experiences.


Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gizem on 31/07/2011 16:38:07
I've started to use the goosebumps as a radar for when I find something that is very true for me, that literally "resonates" with me. The past couple hours of reading up on many of your posts have kept me constantly in goosebumps  [:D] ; I feel very good right now.

Yep! This happens to me too. When I'm about to share my thoughts about something important with other people or I'm stressed to do something in front of a lot of people. Like reading poems or an article I wrote, when I'm reading in class. Sometimes my family. And I get them when I listen good poem, writing, music, sometimes reading a book. Sometimes when an idea comes my head too.

Sometimes I feel bad, stressed and under pressure when I don't get my goosebumps. When I lie, before sleeping, I get this bad feeling and in order to get rid of the feeling I get my goosebumps. But I can't do them when I'm lying, so I stand up and get them. Does this happens to you guys? And when I do some knee bobbing, I get my bumps more easily. And I can't hold them longer like others do.

My English isn't really good, but i believe you understand what i mean.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: migg137 on 17/08/2011 11:02:12
Hi I use these energies too, Im a male from Mex residing in USA, like most of y'all my experience was a feeling of high when listening to music at age 13 or so. Now when i go to a club or something i can expand this energy when apart of a song i like comes and i like condense it make it in to a ball and throw it on the dance floor and everybody around that area dances like crazy. Also in some songs where it says put your hands up in the air or have the low beat going to high beat before letting down the "beat" or ;letting the "beat rock" I feel like all the energy these people throw Im gathering it, then i let go of it with them. In a way ... energy banking idk. Most of you use it for basic things like getting hot or just showing it but also you can use it to "radiate" how you want others to perceive you, many CEO's use something like this but to me it comes natural. You can also feel a song and relate to a female and get her in the mood by listening to music at the same time and getting in the same "zone" as her... ummm also I feel it when giving speeches or persuading people. I play instruments and DJ lol ohkay bye
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: nicci.day on 19/08/2011 11:36:09
I also can control my pulse, temperature (goosebumps) and often happen to text someone (i am close to) at the same time they text me x i also used to have de ja vu dreams but i do not remember my dreams as much as i get older x
Surely the goosebumps / temperature control means we have just remembered, copied and reproduced a response? 
The text thing could be coinsidence that we both think in a similar timescale
The de ja vu i have no idea
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 24/08/2011 11:44:12
Well, I guess I am here to un-toot everyones whistle. What you are experiencing is not "special", anyone and everyone can experience this. It has been described since Ancient Times, from the Egyptians to the Yogi's. Sure the subjective interpretations are going to be differing to say the least.

Yogi's would probably call this third eye activation, or awakening. Chineese call it Micro Cosmic Orbit. (qiqong)

Basically it is moving awareness of the Pituitary and Pineal glands. This has all been described by the ancients and us westerners are just catching up.


The next step is to find the Heart and LOVE. Yes the actual feeling of love for the entire universe, not to exclude anyone or anything. This practice is called Metta by many.


Visuddhimagga instructions
 
Contemporary instruction for the cultivation of loving-kindness — such as is found in the works of Sharon Salzberg,[11] the Triratna Buddhist Community's Kamalashila,[5] and Matthieu Ricard[12] — is often based in part on a method found in Buddhaghosa's 5th c. CE Pāli exegetical text, the Path to Purification (Pali:Visuddhimagga), Chapter IX.[13][14] This traditional approach is best known for identifying successive stages of meditation during which one progressively cultivates loving-kindness towards:

 1.oneself[15]
 2.a good friend[16]
 3.a "neutral" person
 4.a difficult person[17]
 5.all four of the above equally[18][19]
 6.and then gradually the entire universe[20]
 
One should avoid choosing someone to whom one is sexually attracted or who is dead.[21] For a "neutral" person, choose someone that you might come into contact with every day, but who does not give rise to strong positive nor strong negative emotions. For a "difficult" person, traditionally choose an enemy, but avoid choosing a person who has just wrecked your life, unless you are very well grounded in awareness.
 
Matthieu Ricard has recommended we choose to meditate on somebody for whom it is very easy for us to feel unconditional love and compassion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett%C4%81

It is the frequencies of the music that may cause this for you, and there is already much study and info done on it. We call it Solfeggio Harmonic. Each frequency is tuned to the very energy centers.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: BenV on 24/08/2011 12:03:09
I'm glad everyone is getting so much from this thread - not to pour cold water on anything, but this is a science forum, so please could we refrain from discussing non-scientific topics?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 24/08/2011 12:49:02
To get it on a more scientific track, we should consider the calcification of flouride in the pineal gland. This really will hinder your flow, and everyone is susceptible to this. Flouride from toothpaste and even water can accumulate and form crystals in your brain, even more of it accumulates in the pineal gland than in your teeth or anywhere else. There are tons of articles on this and a simple search on google would yield numerous results.

Here is a good one:

http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-dangers/health/pineal/index.aspx

There are many all natural ways to aid in decalfication, but you should be aware that there is 2 processes involved. 1 to break it up, which natural kelp (natural iodide) will work, and 2 to carry it out which chlorella will work. There are also all natural metal detox.  This is not medical advice, and I suggest you do research on your own before deciding what is right for you or to contact a physician.

I personally think physician's are over-rated this day and age with the vastness of the known universe at your fingertips.

I would also wager that reducing the flouride intake in the 1st place, by using unflouridated water and toothe-paste would yield similar long term results.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 24/08/2011 12:57:27
I'm glad everyone is getting so much from this thread - not to pour cold water on anything, but this is a science forum, so please could we refrain from discussing non-scientific topics?

Are you claiming this anomaly that we all experience is beyond science? (rhetorical question)

This is just the surface of this all too real subjective science.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 24/08/2011 13:06:07
For those guys who claim to have felt this before puberty I would like to ask if you can be certain? I am under the impression the the celiac plexus which developes at puberty is also a key componet.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: BenV on 24/08/2011 13:35:04
Are you claiming this anomoly that we all experience is beyond science? This is just the surface of this all too real subjective science.

Not at all.  I'm just keen that we stick to scientific discussions of it's cause.  A bit like the earlier reminder from Peppercorn (which I confess, I hadn't noticed until now!)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 24/08/2011 13:58:09
If you want that objective reproducibility, you can read about it after I recieve the Nobel Prize.

:P

I have been looking for an objective scientific explanation for over 10 years, to no avail. The closest things I have found is in Eastern Medecine. which was afore mentioned. Do you have anything to add other than adding that you don't like what is being added?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 24/08/2011 14:11:54
You do realize that there will have to be a machine devised to measure this current to produce these results right?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: LimboDog on 26/08/2011 00:39:24
I too am able to create goosebumps at will. I believe that what we are all experiencing is some sort of control over endorphin release. I can create goosebumps whenever I want and it makes my brain feel a little swollen if I do it a lot. I find that I can create these goosebumps particularly well when listening to music or when imagining myself as being ruler of the universe or dominating someone in a fight. When lifting weights I also can do this and it helps me lift more, which is part of the reason I believe it to be related to endorphins, the bodys natural painkiller. That would explain pushing through the pain of pushing oneself to the limit a little bit further.

I am also able to see through any prescription lens for whatever reason. I can focus my eyes through anyones glasses and it has always confused people when I show them.

I think all of this may be related to neurological sensitivity allowing for further investigation by those possessing it. This is called HSP. Highly Sensitive Persons are not very uncommon. About one in five.

Here are some wikipedia quotes you may find interesting:

"A highly sensitive person (HSP) is a person having the innate trait of high psychological sensitivity (or innate sensitiveness as Carl Jung originally coined it). According to Elaine N. Aron and colleagues as well as other researchers, highly sensitive people, who comprise about a fifth of the population, may process sensory data much more deeply and thoroughly due to a biological difference in their nervous systems.[1]

This is a specific trait with key consequences that in the past has often been confused with innate shyness, social anxiety problems, inhibitedness, or even social phobia and innate fearfulness, introversion, and so on.[2] The existence of the trait of innate sensitivity was demonstrated using a test that was shown to have both internal and external validity.[3] Although the term is primarily used to describe humans, the trait is present in nearly all higher animals."

"The research on sensory-processing sensitivity, however, builds on Eysenck's views on introversion and arousal and Gray's work on the inhibition system. This research in turn builds on Pavlov's work on sensory response to both physical and mental over-stimulation, and work by Jung and his contemporaries differentiating extroverted and introverted cognitive sensitivity types.[9] This research shows that about 15-20% of humans and higher animals have a nervous system that is more sensitive to subtleties. This means that regular sensory information is processed and analyzed to a greater extent, which contributes to creativity, intuition, sensing implications and attention to detail, but which may also cause quick over-stimulation and over-arousal.[5]"

"This temperament may also have some correlation with continuously high cortisol levels, which may cause hypervigilance and susceptibility to trauma, or the same traumas may encourage hypervigilance, which in turn may contribute to high cortisol. Being highly sensitive may amplify or create psychological issues when over-arousal occurs. The ability to unconsciously or semi-consciously process environmental subtleties often contributes to an HSP seeming "gifted" or possessing a "sixth sense". Sensitivity is often confused with shyness, but 30% of HSPs have extroverted personalities. Another common misconception is that only females can be HSPs; there are roughly the same number of male HSPs as female. The percentage appears to hold true for all animals possessing this trait.[3][5]"

Here is a link to the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highly_sensitive_person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highly_sensitive_person)

I'm willing to bet we were as children and still are highly sensitive individuals and are thus able to take greater control over subtleties in the nervous system.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 26/08/2011 15:00:53
Thanks for the Post Limbodog.

I had 1st found it after Kundalini Awakening. I really doubt it is particular to ones gene make-up as much as it is to due life experiences as well.

Seriously, it is the third eye that allows you to do this.

You can regulate temperature with the celiac plexus as well, this is all a part of Internal Alchemy. Simply moving awareness, it is not fixed to the eyeballs like some would think and get stuck.

Furthermore, there is already a sixth sense and it is that of feeling. Which if you ever manage to put awareness to the center of the chest you will feel the prominent feeling of love (with a bit of work) , just as easily as you make the chills.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: peppercorn on 26/08/2011 16:59:48
I, like BenV earlier, have also just noticed that we have been here several times before. 

To those straying from standard medical knowledge on this thread:
a) Please, please Read the site's Acceptable Usage Policy.
b) Be aware that continued infringement can, and almost certainly will, lead to a ban.

Also, please note: Although it may appear petty at times, we do encourage these behaviours for the purpose of an enjoyable and informative site for all.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 26/08/2011 17:08:31
That's all fine, but your grounds are unfounded, I have already said that third eye = pineal gland. It has been defined in a scientific term, you are arguing semantics.

Furthermore, I don't appreciate you adding to my post, if you want to make a complaint to me then make a seperate post or message me. Common courtesy.

As far as these being beliefs, you are wrong, these are experiences. Until you test this hypothesis you won't know. Even after the experience passes you still won't know that experience objectively, as it will be subjected to interpretation of the mind once upon interpretation and twice upon articulation.

The same way an observer effects a wavicle, an observer effects experience. It is the experience that should be the focus of this study, if you call it that. If someone does pinpoint what this energy that we feel is, than I will be first to retract my statements, until then your grounds are unfounded and just as much speculation as anything else.

I am simply asking those here to test this hypothesis and find if it is true for themselves, as that is the only truth that can be manifested, which is subjective. When we get these subjective experiences to correlate to one another we will be even closer to the truth.

I know you guys like your objective truth, but do not over-look the subjective truth as well. There are 2 sides (atleast) to this coin.

The only way to really prove any of what I say is to try it, it is not going to bring the proof of the physiology, but it will bring proof of the process.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: peppercorn on 28/08/2011 16:12:47
Furthermore, I don't appreciate you adding to my post, if you want to make a complaint to me then make a seperate post or message me. Common courtesy.

And, as I explained in the addition to your post (in a nice friendly green to differentiate it), I included those words in public view to inform the wider reader (actually mentioning why I didn't simply PM).  Unfortunately, now you've seen fit to removed them, the point is lost.
I'll hope you'll also note, for future situations, that you had shown previous 'form' for making unsubstantiated medical claims. So if I was too quick in jumping the gun this time, I apologise. - The purpose was to inform both casual readers as well as those with a longterm interest; now part of that information is gone, which is a shame.


BTW, what exactly, in your opinion, is "subjective science"?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 30/08/2011 16:26:31
Self-evident truth.
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Froggy618157725 on 11/09/2011 11:35:46
I'm able to do this as an acquired skill. I picked it up after focusing on the sensation when it happened. I gained the ability to create the sensation of a shiver traveling down your spine, and eventually found I could essentially move the sensation throughout my body at will, and did not suspect it had any physical meaning until I noticed my hair standing on end roughly where I focused the sensation. I can, for instance, raise the hair on only one arm. Creating the sensation is trivial to me, however, causing goosebumps to rise is a little bit harder, and I can't get it 100% of the time. Often when I don't, the skin where I'm focusing the sensation gets blotchy, which makes me suspect I've consciously taken hold of part of the autonomic nervous system, since that's responsible for both goosebumps and constricting blood vessels.

I've noticed a number of uses for this. First of all, it allows me to ignore the temperature a bit. If a room is uncomfortably warm, it makes me feel a bit cooler, likely because I associate it with a response to it being cold. It also seems to act as a refresh for my senses. If I focus the sensation somewhere where I'm experiencing a dull pain, I feel a sharp pain at the source. Afterwards, the pain spreads and dullens again. I can also use it to alleviate pains that don't seem to have causes, or induce minor pain in a specific region. I can manipulate headaches, often simply stopping them, if not just changing where I feel like the headache is. It also temporarily heightens my awareness. From this, I've learned how to trigger the 'second wind' phenomenon at will when I'm pulling an all-nighter. It is, however, a hairline trigger, and a one-shot. It's difficult for me to think about it late at night without accidentally triggering it.

On a slightly less useful note, I can do things with it that just increase quality of life, like causing the sensation to move through my body in time to music, or activating it during particularly emotional parts of a movie or something. My experience is pretty much the same as the guy here on the Wikipedia talk page for goose bumps. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Goose_bumps#Significance_of_voluntary_goose_bumps)
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: sascad on 01/10/2011 03:05:33
I've been able to do all this also. Even on the hottest humid day I can create goosebumps at will. Make myself stronger. Make my vision clearer. Make my hearing sharp. Use it to adapt to physical strategy games. We are able to control the the hypothalamus. The control of hormones entering the blood stream. It makes us stronger, faster, think quicker, sensitivity to radio waves, sound and light and heal faster. It's the control of the "fight or flight" response.
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 04/10/2011 16:30:44
Because of the fight or flight response we control I believe we can train longer than others so it's easier to get stronger.
At least, if you have the determination to go at you limit and beyond to push even when you're at your limit.
If I go beyond my limit I get uncontrollable (not stopable) strong goosebumps as long as I hold on going at it.
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: mauser on 04/10/2011 23:39:41
Interesting thread, not exactly the same, but I posted a thread in new theories about being able to cause pain or damage to parts of the body, possibly by manipulating blood flow or releasing chemicals (possibly adrenalin) as a form of self harm. I've now realised it tends to mainly happen when at rest when the mind is wandering.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=41173.0
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: rocketman on 06/10/2011 00:17:46
Wow, glad to see I'm not the only one that can do this.
Searching the web got me here, but still no closer to finding a definitive answer for the how and the why.

Here's something interesting.
When I was a kid, one of my friends had this toy "lie detector" game and it came with a device that you clipped to your fingers and it would beep (supposedly) if you told a lie. I don't think it monitored your pulse, but your skin conductivity. -At any rate, I was quickly able to amuse my friends by causing the lie detector to beep on demand. Basically, I'd induce a "surge" or "tingle" and the machine would beep in response.

Later, as a young man, I applied for a job at a large chain pharmacy and part of the hiring process was taking a polygraph. Now, I had completely forgotten about that old lie detector game from years ago, but when the technician started hooking me up to the polygraph, including clipping sensors to my fingers, I recalled the old game and started doing surges during the questions "Have you ever stolen from an employer?", "Do you take illegal narcotics?" etc., just to see what would happen.

After about two minutes, the tech stops, looks right at me and says "Stop. Doing. That." –(in sort of the same tone as a parent would say to their kid caught picking his nose.)

Suddenly chastised, I stopped the "tingles" and "surging" and completed the polygraph interview. -I never thought to ask the tech how he knew I was doing anything, but it was obvious from his reaction that, not only was it measurable, but he knew I was consciously causing it.

I can only assume from his line of work, that he'd encountered a few people who could do it before.

I’ll bookmark this thread so I can come back and check it from time to time, to see if any new info comes up.

-TB Rocket
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: ablestmage on 06/10/2011 05:07:16
I've been looking for others who can do this, and it appears that search has met with success. 

I started getting them in response to music since about age 13, when a particular passage we played in band would always give me chills, but none of the rest of the tune would. Over the years I've discovered other forms of music that help it along, but later came to the conclusion that I could duplicate the physiological process that occurred whenever I heard those passages and get goosebumps without any music at all, purely from wanting to and making it happen.

I've gotten it down to a couple of mental visual cues that set them off easily, and can get them in isolated regions, mostly mirrored in both sides (left and right) and rarely in either right or left alone.  However, I've noticed at least five stages of intensity.

The first stage is the attempt to get them started, a little like running your finger over the surface of a roll of sticky tape seeking for the edge to pull up.

The second stage is erratic, with random patches of chills firing off here and there, as if I know I'm close to making them pop out firmly is within grasp, a little like an engine choking and sputtering when trying to start.

The third stage is when goosebumps are achieved, and may last only for a few seconds if you get distracted or lose grasp on focus for keeping them going somehow.

The fourth stage is the laughing/crying stage where they become so intense that you either start to giggle about how cool it is, or begin to make tears in amazement of how profound it is to have lasted this long.. perhaps 10-30 seconds.  If you can make it through this stage WITHOUT giggling or crying, which will distract you, you can make it to stage five.

The fifth stage I have only hit twice in my life, and perhaps a year plus between. At this stage you are not even focused on maintaining them, but are slipping into a surreal, trippy experience where your existence is the embodiment of a single concept, like you are in tune with the universe and you are the broadcast signal to the universe and each heartbeat is a pulsating transmission of that signal. My good qualities and bad qualities form a coherent one-ness of identity, and every hair everywhere is positively on it's fullest outward stretch and with a feeling of glowing, raw energy. 

If there's a sixth stage I've never hit it, but I'd like to find out someday =)

I might note, however, that I've got a nerve disorder also, Essential Tremor, with the possibility of early-onset Parkinsons (at age 34, male, from Texas). I have long wondered if the ability and the disorder is connected. I've never done drugs not prescribed to me except over-the-counter meds for normal reasons. I've had nitrous oxide at the dentist (with trippy, hyper-philosophical results), but only in controlled amounts as warranted by dental activities. I don't drink alcohol, and have even been without caffeine for over a year.

My attempts at evoking them have little to do with religion or spiritualism or mind-body energy and all that, but mostly with visualizing complex spatial problems.  The one that works best for me so far is this -- and any parallel to some mind-energy concept by some asian whatever is purely coincidence:

(1) Imagine a traditional-looking rudder wheel like you'd find on a pirate ship that the steering person would use to turn the rudder with, except without the knobs around the edge. Whether it has finer details like wood may not really matter. The wheel isn't attached to anything yet and is freely floating in the air, with no background, just floating in an imagined space.  Imagine the wheel starts spinning in one direction slowly, gradually building up in speed, faster, faster, faster still, faster, faster, and then as fast as you think you could possibly imagine in spinning. 

(2) Next, imagine that another wheel proportionally larger than the first wheel emerges behind it, and slowly begins rotating, as if the fastest speed the first smaller wheel is the proper gear ratio to begin to turn the next wheel in series.  Imagine the larger wheel spinning gradually faster and faster just as the first wheel did, but that the speed at which the smaller wheel was turning to get the larger one started, is proportional/multiplied by the speed at which the larger wheel is turning, to the point where the larger wheel is now spinning at the speed the first wheel had been in order to get the larger one started, and by now the smaller wheel is practically invisible it is spinning so fast.

(3) There is now a third, largest wheel behind these two that acts in a manner reflective of the relationship between the smallest and next largest, that begins turning slowly, gaining speed, and spinning as fast as you can imagine, all the while the gear ratio/multiplication being transferred to the speed the other two are spinning, at a blinding speed on the middle, and a completely incomprehensible speed for the first one.  If I can manage to keep all three wheels in focus, then I've probably hit stage five by then, but it takes a lot of focus to concentrate on only that single idea of the wheels and not be distracted by anything else.

I can be contacted at ablestmage@gmail.com, if anyone would like to compare notes. I'd like to start a Facebook group or small site dedicated to the idea of creating goosebumps on purpose..

Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: kjason on 24/10/2011 17:30:21
I never really thought about the 'goosebumping' very seriously and thought it was all natural.
Turns out, I have not been able to meet a single person who have been able to do this.
I got curious and tried searching google for being able to control goose bumps.
As I kept on reading through the posts (which was really long) I found out there were some other things I could do that weren't exactly 'common.'

Now before I begin, some of my personal experiences I'm about to write about aren't all related to this thread and I take the risk of sounding possibly paranoid to some people as I post this (take what you will and drop the rest).

First off, the goose bumps, I've somehow been able to control these very naturally and have been a very fast healer since childhood.
Like most, a blast of wave-like feeling (prickly but not discomforting) can be sent throughout my body or kept at a wanted location.
I just tried this today and learned that I can generate the surge from my abdominal area as well, not just from the base of my skull.
I could hold the electrical wave-like feeling as long as I want to although it requires some concentration and if I close my eyes (which rolls back pretty far I noticed) to concentrate, I feel a rhythmic pulse going throughout my entire body.
I can also control the intensity of it too. Though if I take it too far my body eventually experiences a jolt of a twitch if I'm not careful.

I can also control the beating of my heart.
Make it slow down and take larger pumps of blood or pump faster (I noticed an unconscious change in breathing as I focused on my heart).

Also, someone posted things about telekinetic abilities. Tell you the truth, I'm not sure if these truly exist or not, but I have frequent experiences of someone popping into my head right before or days before being contacted by that exact person. I found this interesting, but never made any connections to think it was anything weird (perhaps I can feel when someone's thinking of me or reaching out to me, who knows lol).

I also noticed when blood rushes to my head (for various reasons) I see short color changing (glowing black and red) lines move around through the air (as if seeing cells move around on a petri dish).

Anyways, those are pretty much the weird experiences with my body I noticed. Haven't really thought much about them but I thought I'd share. :)
Not sure if anybody would, but if you'd like to contact me about these (no spam please...) you can reach me at jasonk0717@gmail.com

Good day :)
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 01/11/2011 15:50:40
None of you guys feel it in your face at all? I feel it come from the crown and travel through my head as well.

See if you can send it to your right palm and make it heat up.

Sounds like ablemage is taking about something similar to the Merkabah.
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 05/12/2011 11:02:20
All of you might find this interesting:
http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=ExhaustionPhase

I can feel it in my face, it's also a bit visible.
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: cheryl j on 06/12/2011 06:13:07
I have heard of athletes, like track runners, using mental imagery to get their heart beating faster so that when the gun goes off, blood is already pumping faster through their system and delivering more oxygen to their muscles.
Title: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: yor_on on 11/12/2011 14:01:39
Hmm, quite a competition this :)

I'm only waiting for Mr Castaneda now..
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Coco87 on 05/01/2012 22:24:03
I'm a newbie and came across this site after realizing that not everyone can do this.  I too can create the "waves" of goosebumps.  I haven't really tuned it in to see if I can isolate different areas like others on here. 

Now I have not much medical experience or anything, these are just my thoughts when wondering why I can create that sensation all over my body. Could this possibly be like being able to wiggle your ears or nose??  ....like its a muscle that someone "stumbles" upon being able to isolate and control?? But on the other hand, I feel I have a spiritual (if that's the correct word for it) or mental connection with people, like I can read their minds, like I know what their thinking.  There are alot of times when I just "know" what people are talking about.  I'll be talking to my boyfriend (long term almost 6yrs) and know exactly what he means or is going to say....almost de ja vu like, but not in the since that i've heard it before, more like I just know.  Same with work too.  I've worked for the same small company (only 2 employees in the head office) and everyday she (the boss) will turn and ask me something but I know the answer before she's done with the question.  Or she'll ask a very vague question and I know exactly what she wants.  Maybe this is connected to the being able to produce goosebumps at will.  Like maybe it's just being more aware of the surroundings.

Also, I feel that I am an old soul, one whose been around for a while.  Maybe all of this is connected???

Who knows......................................just my thoughts after a long day of work.........
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gizem on 30/01/2012 21:15:41
None of you guys feel it in your face at all? I feel it come from the crown and travel through my head as well.

See if you can send it to your right palm and make it heat up.

Sounds like ablemage is taking about something similar to the Merkabah.

I can feel it on my face, too. And I can feel it in my head(brain?) if it's really strong.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Wilderness on 12/02/2012 04:23:40
Well I am only 15 and I was like you other people who can recreate the goosebumps. It started out very young, if I ever thought of anything mystical I would end up getting goosebumps and eventually I could simply do it without a thought. I can do it whenever I please and it is very easily done if I look at one of my hands. It usually starts with my forearms and travels all throughout my body and then starts at the center of my mass and goes through again (that is what usually happens.) I recently got into meditation although I could do that before I ever learned. I can also recreate the heat sensation anywhere in my body. I can focus my eyes in and out but that was a learned ability, and that enlarges and shrinks my pupil. I always know when people are looking at me and where they are. I commonly know what people are thinking but it isn't voluntary. It happens on its own. And I heal from wounds faster than the other people i know and I can often heal people. I discovered that my mom also has the ability to recreate the goosebumps. I was simply curious to check if it was normal or not. But if anyone has any questions or suggestions for anything I should do then free feel to email me. And I did not know it was relevant at all but after reading other people's replies I also have a very high tolerance for pain, I can move my ears, nostrils and eyebrows. If that even has anything to do with it...
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: ScottMcfarlane on 17/02/2012 00:19:54
This is insane, I can do this as well, and I've always asked people if they could do it to. I can send a chill or 'pulse' through my body, and I can control whether it starts in my arms or legs. I always try to make the feeling go into my head, but it doesn't work unless it's a strong signal. I can also control my pupils and make it blurry or sharp. Sometimes I actually try to maintain the 'pulse' throughout my body, but then I start to shake so I stop. My heart rate rises (or feels like it does), I give myself goosebumps, and the only feeling I can relate it to is a chill of some sort that I signal out to my body. I've not been able to find anyone else who can do it until now. Has anyone found an answer to this problem?

I think it has to do with my nerves, but it's definitely voluntary as I can force the 'chill' wherever I want for however long I want. I don't think this is spiritual or anything, and infact in an earlier post someone mentioned releasing adrenaline, and I honestly think it sorta feels like that's what it may be. I also have trouble sleeping at night and some have suggested I do a sleep study.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: ClassiC738 on 18/02/2012 04:09:20
Ok I was just doing this and decided to google it to see what the tingles really are..  Like the rest of this forum, I have been able to do this since I was a kid, like 5 or 6.  I've always been a scifi fan and thought it had something to do with telekinesis.  Well i'm 35 years of age and haven't moved anything with my mind, so thats out!!  But I do remember in my younger days when i did it that my heart would beat funny.  So i practice with it when i was bored and was able to what i believe is slowing my heart to a stop.  I don't know how anyone else bring on the tingles, but i'll describe it like this.  If you bring the tingles on quickly, this will cause your heart to beat faster. Well if you have the ability to bring the tingles on, but not at full tingle power and concentrate on your heart rhythm,  You will notice your heart to beat slower. I would let go when my heart stopped for more than 2 sec. and everything would go back to normal, heart racing of course.  Now i only did this as a child and maybe once in my teenage years to see if i could still do it. I'm to old to try it now. My heart might not recover.  Just thought i would share this since i'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: some1unknown on 21/02/2012 10:20:17
I along with many of you guys can send tingles from the back of my head to the rest of my body and that will trigger goosebumps all over my body. Well come to think of it i am 16 and have been doing it at the age of 10. I think there may be an emotional connection with the tingles because when i feel inspired or listen to a motivating song the tingles get very much stronger. When it try and focus on one part of my body with the tingles i feel like they travel to that area but also "leak" to the surrounding areas.

I have a feeling that all people who can tingle so to speak can do the things the others can so lets have an experiment?

People who can control pulse and body temperature, what steps exactly do you take to do it?
People who can tingle with their abdomen, how do you do it?
People with healing is it the goosebumps that heal? if not why else?
People who can tell what a person is thinking, how do you know? and have you verified it?

Well i guess thats my contribution to this topic...
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: lemur1230 on 02/03/2012 00:02:54
Woah!Im and ive been able to do this since i was 8. I can send a chill at will and get it intense enough to make my hairs stand and get goosebumps. Its usually making my hairs stand first then goosebumps. I usually do it when listening to music and certain times in the music to get a really intense chill. i was just doing it and decided to look it up and here i am. I usually get hot after doing it a lot, but it feels cool. Its also cool knowing others can do it. at first the chill just went from my neck down but i discovered you can send chills to specific parts of your body. like just your right arm. But i dont think ive ever been able to send a chill to my feet. Has any one been able to?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: vetmode on 06/03/2012 14:58:17
I just registered because Jolyon's posts were a spot on description of one of my phenomenons.

I have never done any meditation/tai-chi or similar things, I am not religious and in general a very skeptical person. But since I was a child I had some weird abilities:


I hope I can contribute some useful information to the discussion, feel free to ask me anything!

People who can control pulse and body temperature, what steps exactly do you take to do it?
People who can tingle with their abdomen, how do you do it?
People with healing is it the goosebumps that heal? if not why else?
People who can tell what a person is thinking, how do you know? and have you verified it?

Well i guess thats my contribution to this topic...

1. I "release" something at the back of my head where the spinal cord meets the brain. I can't put it in better words, sorry. However I never think about cold things or need to imagine something. I just make it happen.
2. Not sure about other people but I can generate this from everywhere. It is however strongest when I release it from the "Jolyon spot", maybe because that's the one I'm most used to.
3. No healing effects for me.
4. No mind reading either.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: some1unknown on 23/04/2012 12:46:18

1. I "release" something at the back of my head where the spinal cord meets the brain. I can't put it in better words, sorry. However I never think about cold things or need to imagine something. I just make it happen.
2. Not sure about other people but I can generate this from everywhere. It is however strongest when I release it from the "Jolyon spot", maybe because that's the one I'm most used to.
3. No healing effects for me.
4. No mind reading either.

Interesting when you said you release something from the back of your head, could you describe the feeling similar to when you "goosebump"? or is it an entirely different feeling, if it is please describe it.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Thouv on 05/06/2012 19:19:12
I made an exciting “discovery” or two yesterday. I was fiddling around with voluntary-induced goosebumps (VIG) in my room while listening to music, and here’s what I found:

1. It usually helps if I tense some facial muscles when I give myself VIGs: my forehead smooths out and some muscles in the back of my head tense up. If I kept my muscles in that position instead of moving them for each wave of VIG, I felt like I could have a more permanent flow instead of the usual waves that I have to trigger every time.

2. More importantly, when I give myself VIGs, it takes a little bit of time for my hair to stand on end, maybe a few seconds. I was giving myself VIGs and I was moving my arms around, and I noticed that my hair would be fully erect earlier than normal. I tried again and it gave the same result: waving my arms around probably increased the blood flow to my arms, so this would seem to indicate that whatever is causing the goosebumps is something that is being transported by the blood (a hormone?) and not just a nervous/electrical signal.

Could some of you try this (moving arms vs. not moving arms) and let me know what results you get?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Rene on 14/06/2012 16:27:08
Goosebumps.

I missed them when I realized at one point that I wasn't having them anymore.  So there must be something good about them.

Actually, as you well imagined, they're at the tip of an iceberg.  I did some playing around with OBEs, not quite believing people could have them, and discovered a connection to goosebumps--I always called them shivers, but the warm-fuzzy kind since they really are more like an electric current than just something to move hair.

I realized that with enough concentration, and it took A LOT relative to what is used day-to-day seemingly for most of us, the VIGs (nice term, voluntarily induced goosebumps) accompanied the projection.  I surmise that the goosebumps we feel normally are the stirrings of being able to project our light body if you will.  If they have been found to increase strength, as others have written, it would make sense.  Since our light body is keeper of our physical.  BUT we must remember that mind is in control of the whole process, so any body we imagine is of mind.  And, with enough concentration then, what is there that mind can't do?  Concentration is essentially akin to people working together.  With enough resources, is there anything that cannot be accomplished in the physical?  Can the mental be any different then?  There is so much more to us than we know.

I've used goosebumps to take the bit out of searing pain on multiple occasions.  It probably aided the healing process although I wouldn't be able to say for sure.  I will hazard a guess that us who can VIG probably place more clout in our own healing ability than what doctors would say.  That isn't to say we don't go to the doctor, because everyone (here, in the world) gets distracted.  We simply recognize that health is the process of sharing, and in sharing our ideas count as much as the next person's. By sharing I mean the actual kind, without decrease.  Like in sharing of ideas, where the idea because it doesn't leave its host, just grows.  We CAN share ideas and DO share them.  It is the stuff that drives electrons, which concludes the unmentioned question of what brought me to this post: that goosebumps and telekinesis are probably related.  Both are certainly a matter of concentration.

Cliff hanger.  What's next?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Rene on 14/06/2012 16:49:11
Mind reading.

Mind reading is clearing of the mind.  To think it's related to goosebumps is like comparing a boat and car.  Yes, they can both be operated by the same person, but likely not even at the same time (proverbially speaking, since there really is no time).Mind reading.

Mind reading is clearing of the mind.  To think it's related to goosebumps is like comparing a boat and car.  Yes, they can both be operated by the same person, but likely not even at the same time (proverbially speaking, since there isn't actually time).  Time would make another discussion.  This one's about mind reading.

Look at it this way.  If you could know the thoughts of those around you, would it help you be productive in your own life of self-exploration and learning about yourself?  Forget the worry about what to do with the thoughts of others and how best to use them (because we would use them, either for good or bad) while we are wondering how to know them.

Don't be daft.  Everyone can read minds and can do so without goosebumps.  It's actually no different than, say, picking up the subconscious through body language--which constitutes more communication in face-to-face meetings than all the words we use combined (I think someone once pegged it at about 93%).

The question is, why can't we read others?  And to that there is an equally simple answer: we are not yet aware enough of the self we currently still question and explore.  The unity that does pervade all "life" attests to a one underlying system of which we are all a part.  We needn't tap into that one, but on our way to it, as our self-awareness grows, so too will perceptions in relations to others. 

We will be able to read other's minds at about the same time when we stop caring about wanting or needing to do it.  Recognize that with the ability comes the ability of manipulation.  And if we're not ready to "manipulate" someone into a greater self-awareness, do you really think that same self-awareness will have bestowed its graces onto us already?  It's a partnership!  Keep plugging away at understanding and the understanding must come.  That's why there is no time; because an awareness of everything IS possible.  (Time is merely a means to incrementalize, to dilute.) 

We have all time to learn about ourselves.  Until finally we do.  And then we find there is no one else and that mind reading of something we ourselves have objectified is just silly.

To think about mind reading, and have a want for it, is no different that wanting to know more about yourself.  For whatever else others may say about anything we do in life: If it helps in gaining understanding, in furthering awareness and re-opening, re-awaking the mind to its own timeless reality, then it's a good thing.  Keep at it!  :)

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Llacurall on 21/06/2012 22:40:05
I'm watching a movie in which the characters have special something... And I'm thinking that would be cool if I could do something different like that, something not fully understood... Oh yea I could do that goosebumps /Vig.
Well at least " I " didn't understand it, so I did what most people would do when they have questions about their body,I asked my dad google.

I'm glad people were able to describe it cause I wouldn't have been able to. After reading a few posts I wanted to share too.
So yea goose bumps ,heart all that.

Asian male 30 this year, can't pinpoint when I did the whole goosebumps Vig thing but definatley before middle school cause I use to freak out the girls in class. Always hoped it was more than what it was. Maybe it is maybe its not. But I tried all kinds of things growing up prob everything written in this forum. This is what it does for me.

GoosebumPs . For me in hot or cold weather when I do the wave and sustain it I feel neither cold nor hot jus the goosebumps temp/feeling so when I'm walking outside on a hot day I do it and all I feel is the wave and the heat kinda stops for the time being same for cold weather. Kinda works the same for pain, still feel pain jus not a much. Maybe cause I'm concentrating on the goosebumps. 

For me I think I'm more sensitive to electromagnetic/ energy/ ? There are times when I can't control the goosebumps ether not being able to make the Vig or not being able to stop. Its like an energy, sometimes its jus a loction sometimes it pass through me .There are times where it so intense its like wave after wave afterwave and can't stop it. These by no means are scary or creepy places that you think would make you have goose bumps. Also a weird feeling when I can t do it maybe jus dead air ? Yea dead air, air that isnt electricaly charged.

In Asia it's called dragon lines, not fully understood (or fully understood but we don't know) which are altered forms of the earths magnetic field. where these lines of energy cross it creates a massive amount of energy.  Ancient civilizations built pyramids, unexplained stone monuments ect ... At these vortex of energy. How did they find these points of intersecting "hidden" energy?
Magnetite enables living creatures to sense magnetic changes.. found in human tissue linked to the ethmoid bone in skull. Animals are believed to use it for navigation.se  Maybe where just a little more sensitive to these hidden energy.

In Asian culture can't speak for American even though I was born n raised in Virginia, our body has to maintain a internal body temp not too hot not too cold , it's a ying and yang thing. I run hot. Regardless And always feel like I need moving air. Jus me ?
Does anyone control their dream ? Like its a fine line between waking up and dreaming , but being able to hold your state of mind In a dream state for longer. Basically not waking up when you realize your In A dream. Only down fall is sometimes the only way to snap out is to jerk awake or moan and it's pretty scary cause I feel trapped . And my wifey doesn't like me jerking outta bed. So I stop doing that. Do I sound crazy yet ? Jus putting it out there to see if there are any similarities . It could just be my sleep,apnea and I'm an insomniac...this prob the wrong forum for those questions.lol

With all that said I would have to say I'm not as "sensitive" to certain things as I use to be.  I think it goes with age ? Use ? Who knows?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: OBK on 06/07/2012 19:23:03
Llacurall, dream control is called lucid dreaming.
it's a wonderful skill, don't abandon it.
if you feel trapped, that's probably sleep paralysis. to get out of it, change your breathing pattern.

Thouv, goosebumps are the reaction to cold, it causes the body hair(including scalp) to stand creating the layer of air, thus preserving body heat.

i too can manifest goosebumps at will.
i wonder what tai chi,yoga people would say about it.


Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: some1unknown on 09/07/2012 08:21:10
Oh and just adding to my previous comment i have done some tai chi/kung fu or something similar to it when I was smaller about the age of 11 but my brother and sister have also done the same thing at the same time and they cannot do the goosebumps voluntarily.

On a side note i read along the pages and i have been practicing with doing goosebumps from my back and have almost mastered it... but it feels much weaker than from the back of my head
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: emancera on 01/08/2012 05:12:46
Hi everyone,

I was reading this post (from the ones in 2003) and to be honest I havent finished... so I'm sorry in advance if I sound repetitive with this.
I sent this mail to a poster, thinking that a post from 2003 wouldn't be active anymore, but to my surprise, after 9 pages of posts this post IS active. So here it goes.

Hi,

I was reading about that strange ability of controlling goosebumps at will. I read your input in : http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=428.25 and you have no idea how happy I was when I saw a way to contact somebody else that could do this. To be honest I've felt as if something was wrong with me for a long time. Just like you, I started having these goosebumps at first when something moved me (like epic music or, just like you, LoTR-type landscapes).

I would like to share with you my "findings" and finally be able to speak with somebody openly about it without feeling like something is wrong with me.

So here is my story and I hope it doesn't bore you.

As I said, at first (around 7-8 years old) I used to get those goosebumps watching cartoons and movies like Krul (all that was medieval or ancient would do the trick). I started to observe and try to understand the feeling when I was 10-11, then I was able to produce them, starting either from the kidney area but in must cases at the base of my spine/stomach area. Then it was just a matter of keep observing and learning what I could do with this.
To make a long story short, here is what I can do and what is worrying me:

I can control the goosbumps at will, the intensity, the path they take in my body, but not much the duration (I used to but not anymore). If I cant make a goosebump just with thoughts usually it will be enough to put my hand together or do a gesture with them and they happen. I used to practice martial arts and I noticed that when I'm doing the forms it is easier for me to start the goosebumps and to extend them I use vocalizations.
I can stop pain as long as it's not intermitent pain. I do this by sending the goosebump to the affected area once the pain starts, if the pain goes away and comes back I need to do it again. If it the pain is intense it wont work, for example, I was able to pull out a broken nail (accident while playing rugby) without feeling any pain just the pulling from the pliers, afterwards I didnt need any painkillers during the recovery; in the other hand, I couldn't hold the pain when I had a gull stone and had to be taken to the emergency room to get my gull bladder removed.
Having a "full body goosebump" wakes me up completely even if I havent sleep for more than 24 hours (happens very often in my work)
When I'm sick (like flu, fever, joint pain), I'm able to put those away by concentrating in the feel of my muscles moving and when the pain or exhaustion kicks in, I use the goosebumps in that area to "reset" that part of my body, I can't cure the flu of pain with it, I just function as if I was healthy even tho I have bronquitis or something of the sort.

Thats for the good part. For the part that worries me I will use an analogy. I see as if my body was an electrical instalation, and somewhere in the base of my spine, stomach was this generator of goosebumps. Now that I'm older (30) I feel as if the cabling was getting worn out. When I was younger the whole thing used to fill me up with energy without side effects; now, if I use it too much, it drains me completely and I feel more exhausted. As an analogy I would say it is no longer a source of energy is more like a way to increase the thruput that my body normally has.

During this process I've become very close to my body, I've learnt to "listen" to it and, as you can see, I kind of see it as a separate entity, in the sense of it has its limits but some times I'm able to push those limits with things like the goosebumps for example, but I have the feeling I'm over using it.

I would like to read what is your experience with all this.

Regards,
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: jsmart123 on 04/08/2012 19:56:43
Same Here. I am able to do this goosebump ability as well. Though I believe mine is more of a healing ability. Here is my reason. I was climbing a small tree when I fell scraping my knee. When I used my ability, a scab formed shortly after. Here is another reason. My little cousin had the pink eye not to long ago. I put my two fingers up against her eye and healed her. About an hour later her eye went from being reddish pink to pinkish white then later to white. it came back again i did it again. Last reason. My aunt had a headache. I put my hand over her head and boom healed her. A little later she tells me her head feels fine as if she never had a headache. I believe evolution is taking its course.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Sansanoy on 16/08/2012 00:29:34
Wow, it's so nice not to feel alone anymore. Let me share my experience.

I never noticed the goosebumps until much later in my life, what I did notice first was the energy and a slight changing in perception. My first time was at church singing a hymn that had particular relevance in my life. This feeling stuck with music until later when I began to develop a need, it was a want as well, but mainly it was a need to change the world around me. A simple want wouldn't make it happen, somehow I had to think of a need for it to happen.

My experience of vig

It starts at the solar plexus and moves out but mostly up. When it starts it feels like there are two strands vibrating in resonance. One of the strands is me, the other one is something unknown to me. These strands are always vibrating and not interfering with each other until the the feeling begins. When it does my vibration changes and resonates with the other and I feel a change in myself. My thoughts become focused, my pupils dilate, my body feels stronger and lighter, my will/resolve seems absolute.

Now, the feeling...It begins from my chest and extends to my upper legs and to my wrist ( I have a hard time getting it to my hands or feet). It feels like I am on fire... I feel it burning like an invisible flame around my body. It's "tongue's" always reaching upward about a foot above my body. The most intense part is out of the top of my head. My whole head feels like a vibration is going through it as it goes numb. It comes in waves too like Ooohmmmooohmmmohhmmmm. I have found that I can even draw it out more like i'm sucking up energy through the ground and the top of my body and then pushing it out around me. It builds and builds along with my "need", it feels incredible for lack of a better word but then there is no outlet to bring it out more and I have to let it go.

It feels incredibly powerful, and yet I have accomplished nothing with it. I have had some changes to perception, hearing, smell, sight. I can hear, see, and smell other peoples feelings, intents, emotions in an empathetic manner. I can dull pain, unsure about the healing. Somehow my body is cooling down though without me being chilled. I was in the shower and decided to do it under the really hot water. I gave myself goosebumps along with cold skin right under the hot water!

My thoughts on this...vig (I think we need a better word) is that it is incapable of evil. Every experience I have had with it, non voluntary, has been at the peak of something righteous song melody, words, action, sacrifice. When I choose to make it happen only positive things can bring it out. One of my most memorable experiences was reading with the tv turned on. I wasn't paying attention to it, but I think it was a cartoon of the "red wall" books (which I know nothing about). Some one shouted "I AM that IS!" and my body blew up in this feeling. I wasn't even paying attention to the tv.

I have experienced the "creepy" goosebumps involuntarily. Those are so very much different. Not the same vibrating strand. It's less a resonance of two strands and more a take over of your own strand to snuff it out.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Sansanoy on 17/08/2012 19:53:25
^ I wanted to add something. After reading through all of these pages and seeing how many similarities we had I realized I should not have left a particular part out. I left it out because I thought it unrelated, but now I see it is worth mentioning.

Others have said that "things pop into their head." I have experienced that as well. There are 3 different types of of this occurrence in my experience. Two of which seem to be disordered memories or events.

1. Dream memory: You have a memory fragment of a dream you had last night. There are particular pieces of that dream fragment that are striking to you. Later that day a portion of that dream fragment occurs. Here is an example, one of many that I have experienced. I have a dream that I crash my car into an absurdly yellow sports car. A few hours after waking I recall that fragment, and notice that the yellow color of the car, it's sporty nature, and the crash seems to be very strong in the fragment. As I drive I take particular attention to anything yellow. I see a car with an extremely yellow bumper sticker and the driver is behaving like he has a sports car. Later down the highway the car takes a deep right turn into the next lane so that he can make a wide left turn and nearly hits me as I pass him in the straight way lane (half way into my lane). The striking nature of the memory fragment causes me to be cautious of yellow while driving thus preventing me from getting into a wreck. The striking parts of the dreams are never wrong or inaccurate. It's like the emotions of that day find their selves in your dreams the night before. The emotion gets coded into a dream. The striking parts of that dream segment are the emotions of a future event.

2. Reversed memory: "stuff popping into your head" in the wrong order of time. Example you walk across an area and look at a particular spot on the ground that day and think "why do I always see bugs turned upside down?" "Should I help them up or are they upside down on purpose because they are dying and in pain. If I happen to see a bug upside down how will I know if I should turn him over? (note I have heard that bugs turn themselves over when they are in pain to lessen the pain) Two hours later you are walking across that same area, and in the same spot on the ground you looked at before there is a bug turned upside down. It's as if your memory is in reverse. (like 1 this happens way too much to comfortably call it coincidence). Same with the movie thing or others. The process of thinking is in reverse, you are thinking about the event before it has happened.

3. Reverse deja-vu. This has only happened to me once. Unlike regular deja-vu that happens at the end of an event this happens before the event. You feel the same way as a normal deja-vu only instead of "that has happened before" it's "I know whats going to happen now". When it happened for me I knew exactly what was going to happen for ~eight minutes. I knew exact timing, the exact sentence and tone of everything that would be said and all events that would happen. It was like I already saw the movie, only it was real life. I had no more knowledge of the events than I would have had as a single observer. Or in other words I only knew what my normal 5 senses would then experience over the course of those eight minutes.

It surprises me how automatic we learned to dull pain, change our temperature, "hide" ourselves from attention or reveal ourselves. I just did these things when I needed to, I didn't have to learn them, I just did it automatically like scratching an itch.

Has anyone else been able to locate people you care about? Almost like a compass?

..(these are my empirical observations of my experience with vig. Like a patient before a doctor I can only describe the symptoms as I perceive them.)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Raphael on 18/08/2012 14:47:18
I AM currently reading all 9 pages to see IF anybody has mentioned that when they breathe IN and OUT they can cause their goosebumps to RISE and FALL respectively?

'imagine' you are breathing in the manna with each and every breath?

resulting in waves of goosebumps, crown on fire, hairs on arms and legs standing on end....etc...exhilaration, addictive too...

feels very yummy by the way...given a choice between having orgasms or TRUTH chills as I call these goosebumps now, associated with your reawakened NEO within, the inner NEO-Neanderthal actually which is still alive in the right brain, as your intuitive guide...

That would be my spin on it and according to the book by Stan Gooch at least...The Dream Culture of the Neanderthals
I might not be far from this INTUITIVE Truth.

well that's my NEO trick for now, trying to improve on it, how I came to be struck by the thunderbolt/lightning of ZeuS and Thor is yet another story in itself.

In order to tell that part of my narrative I will need to introduce the archetypal 'SS', a MEME memory that seems to get carried forward through space time.

namaste



Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Sladeb on 01/09/2012 18:15:42
I also can make my brain twitch. It starts from the top of my head and goes all the way to my toes and finger tips. If I make my brain twitch a lot it will make me sneeze. Once my aunt twisted her ankle and i grabed her foot and put my fingers on her ankle. I made the wave go down to my finger tips. She said she felt a thud and that her ankle quit hurtting. After that she said her ankle never hurt after that moment. I dont know if that means anything... But I saw this and I thought i was the only one who could do this.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: tommarty920 on 10/09/2012 02:56:42
I have also been able to do this since I was very young. Actually didn't even notice the goosebumps till right now. But that "wave" feeling is what I typically use it for. Whenever I get headaches I use that feeling to soothe the headache. Quite useful for that purpose alone.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: kwayneg7 on 15/09/2012 16:21:37
soo how many people can really do this? to me it is not difficult to give myself goosebumps on call. i dont know much about this so called "ability" to say the very least. i would like to ask a few questions though.

should i tell my doctor, are there any materials related to this post that i can read and how do you stop the gag effect?

do any of you experience a gag reflex that litterally chokes you, forcing you to stop? i do and sometimes think that this is something we shouldnt do to ourselves.

 ive been able to give myself goosebumps for quite sometime but didnt really figure out how to manipulate this effect until after i hit my head and healed up. i cant say that it isnt a cool thing to do or that it wont impress people if your good at it but is it really safe? i ask myself over and over, is it safe to do this almost every time it happens. could i choke to death or could you choke to death? i really want to know if any of you gag most of all. sometimes it just opens up full throtle and i end up gagging. i know it feels good and all but i dont want to die. sometimes its just triggered and i cant do a damn thing about it except gag and choke until it stops.

anyone, anyone at all know how to stop the gag?

p.s. awesome thread, tickled me silly enough to register.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ryjo on 21/09/2012 13:58:09
I'm not sure if this is relevant or not but I can trigger a chill/wave to go down my spine at will. Now I haven't always had the ability to do this, but I remember discovering this "ability" when I was 8 (I am now 20yrs old).

Now every time I do this there's a sound and a feeling that I get. It feels like a slight pressure behind my eyes and it sounds identical to when you plug your ears and can hear what I can only assume to be the air pressure. After many years I've now mastered triggering that sound and feeling.

A few notes about what this is/does as it is normally hard to describe.

1) At first I could only achieve this feeling when I closed my eyes. This is still the "easiest" method

2) Around the age of 13 I became able to achieve this while staring upward, as if I were to roll my eyes.

3) At 18, I could now achieve this feeling/sound without moving my eyes at all. This is where things began to get very interesting as up until this point I had assumed my eyes were the key to this whole process.

Now onto the effect.

Immediately after I achieve this sound and feeling in my head a chill, that seems to originate from either my shoulders or neck, travels down my spine. Now after recent experimenting with this whole process I can now control the direction of this "chill". I've recently sent it down my left arm and when I could no longer feel this "chill" my arm immediately felt warm and then like pins and needles.

I'll answer any questions anyone may have about this. I thought it was relatable to the topic.

In truth the whole thing freaks me out a little, as I don't know anyone else who can do this. It seems like I can mentally control more in my body than should seem possible.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: neilep on 21/09/2012 16:03:42
I'm not sure if this is relevant or not but I can trigger a chill/wave to go down my spine at will. Now I haven't always had the ability to do this, but I remember discovering this "ability" when I was 8 (I am now 20yrs old).

Now every time I do this there's a sound and a feeling that I get. It feels like a slight pressure behind my eyes and it sounds identical to when you plug your ears and can hear what I can only assume to be the air pressure. After many years I've now mastered triggering that sound and feeling.

A few notes about what this is/does as it is normally hard to describe.

1) At first I could only achieve this feeling when I closed my eyes. This is still the "easiest" method

2) Around the age of 13 I became able to achieve this while staring upward, as if I were to roll my eyes.

3) At 18, I could now achieve this feeling/sound without moving my eyes at all. This is where things began to get very interesting as up until this point I had assumed my eyes were the key to this whole process.

Now onto the effect.

Immediately after I achieve this sound and feeling in my head a chill, that seems to originate from either my shoulders or neck, travels down my spine. Now after recent experimenting with this whole process I can now control the direction of this "chill". I've recently sent it down my left arm and when I could no longer feel this "chill" my arm immediately felt warm and then like pins and needles.

I'll answer any questions anyone may have about this. I thought it was relatable to the topic.

In truth the whole thing freaks me out a little, as I don't know anyone else who can do this. It seems like I can mentally control more in my body than should seem possible.

Hi Ryjo

It seems like you have discovered the ability that other people have when then move their ears !

....What i mean is ...clearly by some circumstance you found a way to move a muscle or twinge a nerve impulse that is usually outside the purview of our usual capabilities.

Thing is...now what do you do with this skill ?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ryjo on 25/09/2012 14:07:20
Well I guess I'll continue playing around with it. I mean as I said, I discovered this ability at the age of 8 and since then I've been learning about and expanding on it. To put it into simplest terms, it's like have new hand and I'm mastering the use of all the fingers.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: some1unknown on 28/09/2012 12:17:04
My understanding of this from my gathering resources is that goosebumps is a reflex which is controlled by the cerebellum, I believe that the motor and the conscious parts of the brain is connected to the cerebellum and can be controlled willingly.
This cannot normally be controlled because it is a reflex that was used in our ancestor's primitive hunter and gatherer lifestyle. But for some strange reason we are able to control it. The most primitive answer to why we can is that it is a learned ability or our brains has made that connection between the motor part and the cerebellum. But actual scientific research into this subject will probably leave answers similar to synesthesia. But this is all observations and guess work.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: hazzary453 on 12/10/2012 18:59:49
I too am able to give myself goosebumps at will, to do so i think of being cold and a cloth scrubbing on carpet(I hate that sound) I am as of yet unable to to many other unusual things, this may be due to the fact I only found i could have goosebumps at will a few months ago, although I can rid myself of small aches and pains by willing them away. (not sure if that is uncommon)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 22/10/2012 03:53:23
Hello all been about a year since my last post.

Glad to see the discussion lives on.I've been somewhat neglecting my research on this subject but am back no so will hopefully be passing on useful ideas/info etc.

I'm feeling that it won't be long till the moderators decide to close the topic saying it's "not scientific enough"

Makes you wonder if they'd have joined in hanging Issac Newton for his "crazy ideas" about gravity lol

Anyways should that ever happen i was thinkin we could do  with a group or website or something where we would be free to discuss this.Whilst i lean to the scientific side of things,i'm not fool enough to believe science holds all the answers,hell they can't even marry up quantum theory and general relativity etc.

But that aside,i think the very fact that so many people posting so very similar things,sometimes word for word must mean that there is some substance to it and that we should continue collecting as much data as possibile.

Anyways anyone know of/capable of hosting a forum or something to discuss this subject matter in more detail?

Onto another subject though.I'd like to just say hello to all those reading and all those who posted me/emailed me on the subject.Whilst i have mainly been gone over the last year i've still taken time to talk to those with questions on the subject and hopefully i've given some satisfying answers.

I'm more than happy to continue talking and helping those who wish it and by all means feel free to PM or email :johnbrown406@msn.com if you have questions,think you could host/help host a more suitable place to talk on this subject or would like to talk in private on anything you feel is related to the subject be it scientific or otherwise-  I have an open mind
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jagermasta on 03/11/2012 01:06:45
Its funny if you think about it but what if this was a natural thing for us? I can do this as well like all of you and I, as well, thought i was alone. After reading all of your posts i can see that if we were born into the world that was meant for everything and not just us then it would come naturally. This is only anecdotal evidence but isn't that what our imaginations are for? Just a thought.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: adodge on 07/11/2012 21:17:15
Well, I also joined just to post here.  I first noticed I could do this when I was in rehab, and when standing outside on a hot, humid day (hot = 100+ degrees!)  I started to notice a wave of static electricity that would always start at the base of my neck and spread towards my extremities, producing goosebumps on my back, arms and/or legs, and accompanied by a very pleasant relaxing sensation, a sense of inner peace.  If they are strong enough, it is also accompanied by a cold chill followed by a pleasurable shudder and/or deep sigh that actually seems to increase the intensity momentarily, like shaking a guitar while one is holding a sustained note.  Unlike a genuine cold chill that is uncomfortable, this feels more like a much needed cool breeze on a hot summer day, except that on that day there was no cool breeze, which is what made it stick out in my mind as unusual.  It usually doesn't last very long, but if I concentrate I can command successive waves that sometimes get weaker, and other times get stronger each time, but never lasting more than maybe 30 seconds or so total.  I also notice an increased depth perception, as well as a slight brightening of lights and colors.  In that moment, I feel that I am in tune with the universe, as if I am standing back and seeing the connection between all things.  For a while I was simply in awe, since it is the closest thing I have ever had to a "spiritual" experience without some kind of mind altering substance, but over time I started to realize I could will myself into this state with enough practice in the same way one realizes that they are dreaming and that the whole dream is a construction of their own design.  You see, reality is a story that the mind tells itself, and with practice you can alter your perceptions similar to the way one becomes lucid in a dream state.  It takes enough self awareness to realize you can control it, but I believe most people have this ability as long as they open themselves up to the possibility.  As far as the dream connection goes, I often have open eye hallucinations that I can sometimes control just before falling asleep and I can usually become lucid very easily while dreaming.  I'm interested to hear if this is a common theme.  Just last night I was able to teach myself to fly (well, more like glide really) just by sticking my arms out and believing that I could.  We limit ourselves more than we realize just by having a closed-minded approach to the world, which is why I believe that in a infinite universe all things are possible.  I didn't honestly believe in the possibility of god or have any understanding of what it meant to be spiritual until after I got clean and started having these experiences, that may sound cliche but it's true.  Coincidence?  Who the hell knows, but I do know that in that brief moment of bliss, everything makes perfect sense and I am able to see the follies of the world, and separate the things that really matter, and yes sometimes it brings a beautiful tear to my eye because even the negative things suddenly make sense in their own stupid way, and that gives me hope for the future (By the way, I am a die hard optimist).  I have had no negative effects so far, and I am getting quite good at it considering I only realized I could do this a couple of years ago.  I am about to turn 29 if that gives you any frame of reference.

I'm fairly certain that this is NOT an adrenal dump, because I have no noticeable increased heart rate or perspiration, and as a die hard adrenaline junkie I know what that feels like.  Some people may be different, but for me these are two completely separate, distinct feelings.  When I get an adrenaline rush from being angry, almost dying, etc it is never accompanied by goosebumps, cold chills, or anything like it.  Adrenaline is designed to numb you physically and emotionally, and with this ability I am actually able to amplify my emotional state, expand my consciousness, as well as have increased physical sensations which makes me think that it may actually be serotonin or possibly even dmt/melatonin.  If anything it actually seems to relax the muscles in my neck and put me at ease.  I can't tell you how excited and eager I am to learn more about other people's experiences.

-allen
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: adodge on 08/11/2012 16:07:06
Hello, just remembered some more details that I forgot to mention in my last post.  I know this is supposed to be a scientific forum, so I will try not to make too many assumptions here and just stick to what I know and can observe. 

Probably about 10 years ago when I was just starting to experiment with drugs, I found this nifty little program called the I-doser, which I used to play binaural beats through a set of studio-quality headphones that I just happened to have.  If you have never heard of binaural beats before I encourage you to look into it more.  The program I had promised to release various neurotransmitters, and I settled on the pineal gland because it has always fascinated me.  Now, whether binaural beats are in fact real or just a placebo may never be proven, but the placebo effect IS a well known, proven scientific phenomena, just not a well understood one.  However, placebo or not, by the end of the session (about 20 mins or so) my eyes were vibrating back and forth very quickly which was a bit unnerving at first because I couldn't stop it but it dissipated after a moment or so.  Now... whenever I get a particularly good chill, if I close my eyes I can focus on it better by tuning out distractions, but in doing so I also notice that my eyes begin to dart back and forth slightly.  I can actually feel them moving from side to side against the back of my eyelids.  This immediately reminded me of the REM stage of sleep (which I wish I knew more about).  Since your pineal gland is also active during deep sleep, it seems like there must be a connection there.  Now I'm no doctor of course, but if someone really wanted to do a study on pineal gland self-activation, it seems like a FMRI machine would be useful.  I believe that anyone who says this cannot be studied doesn't really want to try IMHO, because where there is a will there is a way.  Also, I'm putting myself up for adoption as a ginny pig!!!

-allen

Also, don't forget that imagination is more important than knowledge.  Open your heart, open your mind...

One last edit for anyone interested in learning more, and seems to confirm the pineal gland connection based on what others here have said... http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/the_third_eye.htm (http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/the_third_eye.htm)
Title: chills/shivers down spine
Post by: adigold on 09/11/2012 10:24:28
Its nice to know that i am not the only one who can control these chills/shivers down the spine and get goosebumps.

I first discovered this "ability" when i was 16. i started to get this odd shiver all the way down my spine every time someone would come near me. it starts at the back of my skull and runs all the way down to my feet. after a year of trying to suppress these chills they finally stopped for about a week but then came back even worse. I realized something different this time. whenever someone would walk passed my i would get a major shiver down my spine and i would start to feel and know how that person is feeling and see what they are thinking! at first i thought i was going crazy because i could sense everybody's feeling around me and i started to go insane. then my mother comes to me one day and says, "son do you ever walk past someone and immediately feel how they feel and pick up on their thought?" and i told her i was. she started to tell me i was born with some kind of extra sense ability or something and these "chills" control them. she told me one day i would be ale to do much more than just feel peoples feelings.

now three years later after experimenting with these chills/shivers i could finally control them. now whenever i touch a persons hand and summon these chills/shivers and i can see their memories and what they have done in there life!! honestly it scares me half to death every time it happens and i don't know how exactly i do it.

I don't know if someone can tell me what is happening to me or if anyone else has experienced the same thing but its starting to scare me and if anyone has an answer to this or how to make it stop than please tell me.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RD on 09/11/2012 20:50:35
... whenever i touch a persons hand and summon these chills/shivers and i can see their memories and what they have done in there life!!

Get a "reputable academic" to confirm this and claim your million dollar prize from Mr Randi ...

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Since April 1, 2007 only those with an already existing media profile and the backing of a reputable academic are allowed to apply for the challenge. The resources freed up by not having to test obscure and possibly mentally ill claimants will then be used to challenge high-profile alleged psychics and mediums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge#History_of_the_challenge
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: m.miranda4987 on 28/11/2012 19:53:15
as you mentioned i can also control my goosebumps, without having to think of anything i can make my goosebumps rise for a good period of time concentrating on it. I havent met anyone that can also do it until now, im glad to know that there is people who can also do it, although youre one of the few... i whish i can find more info on this topic and i do i will be back here to share it.... good luck and if you get any other info please share.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jagermasta on 08/12/2012 07:20:27
Smoke weed and trigger it...trust me lol
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: adodge on 17/12/2012 01:23:01
actually now that you mention it I've noticed that pot does seem to enhance this somewhat, but then again it enhances everything so no real surprise there.  However, for me I definitely don't need to be stoned to be able to do it, but it still helps.  Cannabis has been used as a meditation aid for thousands of years partly because it enhances insight, and I'm starting to suspect that these goosebumps and the elevated level of consciousness that seems to accompany it is actually simply the ability to slip into a trance-like state at will (at least for me, that is).  A few weeks ago I had some particularly good skunk and rolled a pinner for me and a friend, but turns out they couldn't smoke so I finished it all myself, and right afterwards while sitting in a very relaxed position I started to get the tingles.  I de-focused my eyes (staring into infinity like you would with one of those magic eye pictures) and almost immediately started getting some extremely psychedelic distortions, ripples seeming to spread outwards accompanied by color distortions, particularly a shade of blue tint that would coalesce and condense into the focal point of my vision, increasing in intensity as it collected itself into a ball of intense pure blue light, getting progressively brighter the smaller it got right up to the point that it disappeared into a single point, at which point the process would immediately repeat itself, successive balls of blue light condensing into intense points of light gaining in intensity each time so that each was brighter and denser than the last.  The whole time my goosebumps were slowly and gradually building in intensity, lifting me on a smooth rising wave that felt like it was lifting me out of my body, instead of the short bursts that I'm used to, and I was gradually tuning out the world and eventually only seeing these balls of blue light even though my eyes were still open.  I was able to sustain that feeling for longer than I ever have, probably a good 3 or 4 minutes or so and probably could have gone much longer but I got distracted and immediately snapped back to reality. Flashback?  Maybe.  I've had similar visual distortions before especially when staring into non-repetitive patterns like popcorn ceilings or a gravel driveway that will cause the surface to seem to melt and ripple like the waves on the surface of water, but this was a bit different and MUCH more intense and actually quite enjoyable. The whole time I got the distinct feeling that I was not a passive observer in this experience, but sometimes it's hard to separate cause and effect.  Anyways, in a way I almost don't want to know the exact scientific explanation because that would take away the mystery and enjoyment of it all (think "When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer" by Walt Whitman), but whatever it is I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: hager0123 on 17/12/2012 06:15:37
I myself can control my heartbeat, give myself goosebumps, dilate my pupils, loosen my muscles, and cause myself to produce a lot more saliva and mucus. Is this normal? What does this mean about me?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: adodge on 18/12/2012 06:46:26
just ran across this while doing some last minute homework:

Mystical:  evoking our awe, love, wonder, gratitude 
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Raphael on 20/01/2013 17:02:07
this video on youtube from a neuro scientist helps explain so much about the truth chills, the source is actually found in the RIGHT brain, i.e. the hippocampus, so goes the theory.

this video builds on the work of Michael Persinger, co-inventor with Stan Koran of the 'God Helmet'.

enjoy

namaste
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RedFish on 22/01/2013 20:28:01
Good to see I am not alone.

I am a 45 year old man who has had this ability since childhood. Starting in my 20's I experimented and developed the ability, and it is now very strong and I have a high level of control over it. I can hold it for well over a minute (2-5 minutes sustained) and can direct it wherever needed.

For the scientists:

Knowing the Scientific Method, I will try to document evidence in this first part of the post and refrain from anecdotal references and speculation until later in the post. There is far more to life than can be isolated by science, but I will endeavor to keep this first part as scientific as I can.

Direct experiences I have had an can easily reproduce:

1. Direction of electrical-like energy from the region of the Medulla Oblongata to any location of my body at will and without regard to breath, eye sight or specific thoughts or memories.

2. The ability to sustain this energy for several minutes without fatigue.

3. The ability to use this energy to heat my body.

4. The ability to lessen the effects of pain (though I have a natural high threshold to pain already).

5. The ability to project this energy up from my cranium (the region of the Coronal Suture) in such a way that my hair stands straight up.

6. The ability to direct this energy by both mental means and by changing my posture. For example, arching my spine forward concentrates the energy on my back and Gluteus Maximus).

7. 20-25% increase in muscle strength by the direction of such energies.

Observations and possibly related events:

Through experimentation, I have been able to cause an even sunburn on both shoulders to possibly heal faster on one shoulder than the other by a difference of 2 days. The reason I say "possibly" is that I had no way of being certain both shoulders were identically burned, they only appeared and felt the same.

My vision has been 20/15 to 20/10 (better than 20/20) for most of my life.

I also have increased control over facial and aural muscles. I can de-align my eyes, defocus them and make them shake rapidly at will. I can rouse a loud roaring in my ears, and make each ear independently move in the vertical direction.

I have been shocked by electrical current on several occasions.

My heart and blood pressure are both 'normal' when I go for medical checkups, so these frequent exercises seem to have done no harm to them.

OK, those are the scientific points. Now for the insights gleaned over 40+ years of experimentation and development of these abilities.

It grows stronger with practice. People often comment that my skin looks younger than my 45 year age, but lately age is starting to catch up. My eyes are finally starting to tire and need reading glasses, but using the energy rejuvenates them for a half hour or so if I don't have glasses handy.

I have done many experiments around healing, and all but the sunburn example are inconclusive. In any case, it *seems* to speed up healing and even seems to work on others when I lay hands on them and invite the energy into them. I say "invite", because it is far more effective when approached that way as opposed to "commanded".

I rarely get sick (perhaps due to diet and constitution), but when I do, the energy doesn't seem to have much of an effect on fever or symptoms.

I have done meditation and pranayama, but these seem to be distinct from this ability -- though I believe they have helped me focus and direct the energy better.

I have noted that birds (particularly ravens, crows and jays) seem to have this ability too. Watch them and you will see what I mean.

I first became able to control the ability when I was watching the movie "Excalibur" in 1981. There is a scene where Merlin uses "the charm of making" and his words strongly activated the chills. So I memorized the words (Ahlnal na thrac outh vas bethod doch yel tienveh) and was able to summon the chills at any time using them. I no longer need the words now.

Here's an interesting anecdote. When I was in my 20's , I went to a wedding in Vegas. The bachelor party was 'off the hook' and I drank way, way, way too much. I got alcohol poisoning and could have died. My best friend is a physical therapist and took me back to the hotel to observe me (I was unconscious). He was about to call 911 because my pulse had dropped too low, when he remembered the Merlin chant (I had confided my ability to him and he was also an Excalibur fan). He loudly chanted it, to try to get me to respond to his voice, and then he said it was as if a shock passed through my body and my pulse quickened and my eyes opened. Amazingly, I got up, drank some water, went to sleep and attended the wedding a few hours later!

In my gut, I am convinced that this ability is drawing energy of some kind into my body and that it is similar to being electrical in nature, but more subtle. Experiments I have done with a digital multimeter show that my body always has a fluctuating current and doesn't necessarily correspond to the activation of the energy. Perhaps it is not the right instrument... but I would be willing to allow any researcher to try to measure it if they have better equipment.

Finally, regarding TK and other 'powers' -- I wish I could say I have them, but I have tried and do not seem to.

I am glad to know that others have this ability and are developing it. In my case, I am still healthy at 45 even though I call on the energy often ...so I would tend to write off any claims that it can damage your heart or veins. On the contrary, my experience leads me to believe the opposite is true.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RedFish on 23/01/2013 18:44:04
A few more thoughts occurred to me:

I am a lucid dreamer and often fly and have TK in my dreams. I have personal experiences in some dreams that lead me to amazing personal discoveries in the waking world (that I would not have investigated without the dreams).

I am a thrill-seeker type and have done many risky and sometimes dangerous things.

I have had a near-death OBE experience about the time I started being able to control this ability.

I had the ability long before having any interest in spirituality, but my investigations into spirituality have greatly enhanced the ability.

I do not take any medications as a rule. I even refused pain killers after severe trauma and surgery resulting from a near-fatal motorcycle crash (the motorcycle landed on top of me and crushed my chest, broke several bones, etc.) I was at work the following Monday.

I fathered a child post-vasectomy (demonstrating unusual healing capabilities).

I did use fluoride toothpaste for years, but this does not seem to have inhibited the energy summoning ability. I have since stopped using fluoride after learning of its negative effects on the pineal gland. This does not seem to have made a difference.

I do not believe in aliens, do not see auras and do not trust astrology -- but I often know who is calling me just before the phone rings. Often times it is someone I have not spoken to in a long time and had no reason to believe they would call. I also seemingly randomly get the idea to call someone I haven't talked to in a long time and they say "we were just talking about you right now!". These occurrences are common throughout my life.

I also do not believe the energy has anything to do with the adrenal gland. Trust me, I know what adrenaline feels like and the effects are vastly different.

Hope this info helps.l

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RD on 23/01/2013 19:38:37
I often know who is calling me just before the phone rings ...

 ...a near-fatal motorcycle crash ...

Pity your ability to foretell the near future did not enable you to avoid the donorcycle accident.

I fathered a child post-vasectomy

Vasectomy failure rate (if doctors instructions are followed) less than 1%. (http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/news/20040505/vasectomies-pregnancy-prevention)

Average percentage of “fathers” not the daddy 4% (http://men.webmd.com/news/20050810/paternity-study-shakes-up-family-tree)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RedFish on 23/01/2013 20:25:05
I often know who is calling me just before the phone rings ...

 ...a near-fatal motorcycle crash ...

Pity your ability to foretell the near future did not enable you to avoid the donorcycle accident.

I fathered a child post-vasectomy

Vasectomy failure rate (if doctors instructions are followed) less than 1%. (http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/news/20040505/vasectomies-pregnancy-prevention)

Average percentage of “fathers” not the daddy 4% (http://men.webmd.com/news/20050810/paternity-study-shakes-up-family-tree)

Hahaha... I only wish (or maybe not) I could tell the future. But that assumes there is only one possible future, which is preposterous. This is more like a form of telepathy. When someone I have a close connection with is thinking about me, I somehow pick up on it... That's all. BTW, Quantum String theory scientifically supports the possibility of such forms of telepathy.

Your injection of the opinion "donor-cycle" tells me a lot about you. Thanks for that.

Regarding the fatherhood thing... The child is verified as mine, the doctor's instructions were followed and the doctor confirmed my procreative capabilities are restored. He told me such instances are ~ 1 in 1200.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RD on 23/01/2013 21:04:22
Your injection of the opinion "donor-cycle" tells me a lot about you.

Here's an expert who shares my "opinion" ...
Quote
“Motorcycle fatalities are not only our number one source of organs,” said one surgeon. “They are also the highest-quality source of organs, because donors are usually young, healthy people with no other traumatic injuries to the body, except to the head.”
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/22/motorcycle-helmets-and-donor-organs/

[ I used to drive one myself when I was young and ignorant, but after seeing the result of Car Vs Biker I wouldn't ride one again ].
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: beatyouonce on 12/02/2013 14:32:16
Can anyone relate to this? Have you ever tried to keep the goosebumps inside? You know how they always seem to go up to your head up your spine and then just go away.

Have you tried keeping it inside and moving around but never letting it out?

I feel it gets a lot stronger the longer you can do that, i can only manage that for about 20 seconds. But i can keep the goosebumps fullbody going for 2-4 min.

Then there was that chi man video on youtube, I personally dont believe anything until i've seen it myself, but he does mention that he pushes in energy into his stomach, where he "mixes it"

Not i've tried pushing as much of this into my stomach/ab area and if you can hold it there and keep adding it does seem to feel interesting.

P.S i dont buy into any of this mystical stuff spiritual or whatnot, if this stuff is real if it is an energy we all have that we can control, then it will be explained by science.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: JJ88 on 09/09/2013 20:09:40
Can anyone relate to this? Have you ever tried to keep the goosebumps inside? You know how they always seem to go up to your head up your spine and then just go away.

Have you tried keeping it inside and moving around but never letting it out?

I feel it gets a lot stronger the longer you can do that, i can only manage that for about 20 seconds. But i can keep the goosebumps fullbody going for 2-4 min.

Then there was that chi man video on youtube, I personally dont believe anything until i've seen it myself, but he does mention that he pushes in energy into his stomach, where he "mixes it"

Not i've tried pushing as much of this into my stomach/ab area and if you can hold it there and keep adding it does seem to feel interesting.

P.S i dont buy into any of this mystical stuff spiritual or whatnot, if this stuff is real if it is an energy we all have that we can control, then it will be explained by science.

Finally some  people with  common intrests , i have the same  freaking  abillity and i dont know how i can even manage to do it. But i was in to dragonball Z long time ago i was 15 at the time.
I went with a friend during full moon outside, screamed like an sayian and since then im capable of doing this at will. I just have to visualize the energy flowing or bursting out of my body and there it is : goosebumps all over my body. Its almost 10 years now. Think im gonna have a little goosebump party, if anyone has some questions feel free to ask.

(Disclaimer, this is NO bullshit story! All the events happend as told here!)


JJ88
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Country_boy1986 on 16/09/2013 06:24:09
I am also able too controll my my goose bumps or chills all I half to do is think bout it an I can do it as long as I want to, also I am able to controll my heart rate I can make it go as low as 35 beats per minute an my normal heart rate is 54 an my resting heart rate is 45 . Also have an extremely high sense of smell an hearing. Bet yea never heard of a person being able to smell a rattle snake even before u see it an automatically no there's one somewhere around in the yard while walkin. I tolerate pain different also when I'm in pain my blood pressure is high an I'm very adgil irritable. An I haven't been sick since 2009 to now so fare. I'm also o+/CMV-. An one more thing before I was ever able to do all this I'd donated blood one time an when I donated my blood pressure was 80/50 an heart rate was 35 an oxygen was100% I don't no if that's what caused it but sense then I've been able to do this. It's the truth100% believe me or not.
Title: Burning an heat hot to the touch sensations in hands?
Post by: Country_boy1986 on 16/09/2013 08:12:32
What causes your hands to feel like heat hot burning sensation to the touch ? Just wondering cause my hands have done it three times before with a 2 month period it feels as if you stick your hands in boiling hot water thing is it don't hurt just wierd . An also my hands an feet goes ice cold feeling an tempature dropes an who body goes cold., my doc said when I go cold like that its probably cause my resting heart rate is 45 do u guys no anything bout this? Also I get an natural high out of no where some times an my eyes dilate as if I'm high as hell an hadnt done anything to get that way  .
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RD on 16/09/2013 10:23:36
... when I donated my blood pressure was 80/50 an heart rate was 35 an oxygen was100%

What causes your hands to feel like heat hot burning sensation to the touch ?

To have a heart rate that low [35bpm] and the oximeter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_oximetry) still reading "100%" oxygen saturation, a possible explanation is you have too many red blood cells, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycythemia , a condition which can also produce "burning" hand pain (https://www.google.com/search?q=polycythemia+burning+hand).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradycardia
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Liger_Yager on 03/10/2013 10:47:06
Thanx guys I wanted to know was there anyone else that could do this. I can make the goosebumps show up on any limb or all over. I can't make them show up on my hands, feet, or face.

JBB I too started this by watching DBZ Goku going super sayin (spelling) but after feeling the effects of him doing this I then tried to reproduce the feeling and only succeeded by thinking of that part of the show. Now I can do it without the add of this. I feel it's done by controlling my breathing; as I slow my breathing down before I began to do this.

I hope this is just the beginning and has ESP applications. I'm not crazy but I do feel the human body is able to do more than we are doing. If any of you want to talk about this more e-mail me at D_Juan_4u@yahoo.com

Again thanx guys. 
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 10/10/2013 17:22:24
Here is a video I made doing it:


They are now calling this phenomena ASMR in the united states, but in other countrys it has been known as Tian Qi or Prana, in which according to scientific nomenclature the first to discover it get to name it, so calling it whatever else is scientifically inaccurate.

It is also generally acquired through forms of Internal Alchemy or Meditation.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: teknix on 10/10/2013 17:28:36
I would suggest that those who do experience it document it as well.

And maybe get a hold of the ASMR research center here :

http://www.asmr-research.org/
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: sc20 on 19/10/2013 04:42:32
I'm another one of the people who have this seemingly useless "talent".

I couldn't even guess at when I first discovered I could do it, but I know it was happening in my early teens (I'm 30 now).

Any time I wish I can cause the sensation to occur, regardless of temperature. I can even cause it in saunas or hot tubs despite the heat. Like almost everyone else, a sensation almost like an electric chill begins at the rear base of the skull, then spreads down the spine and to the limbs in waves. Accompanying that is the feeling of power or strength. When trying to explain that feeling of power to people in the past, I've described it as feeling like I could jump a house or lift a car over my head. It just feels like raw power.

The whole body is flooded with that massive surge, like an adrenaline rush, and if I focus on it I can increase it to the point where the sensation becomes almost uncomfortable. There have been times when I've actually caused the back of my head to be sore afterwards because the feeling was so strong and I kept it going for so long (minutes at a time). The soreness felt very much like when you have sore cheeks from laughing really hard, except it was located in the rear of the head/neck (I believe it would be the splenius capitis muscle).

When I experience the sensation, my eye muscles want to tense up as though squinting. Once I finally release the sensation my vision feels crisper, and colors are more vivid as though I'm looking at the world through high saturation filters. It only lasts 30 seconds or so before my colors return to normal.

Like some others, I'm able to control my pulse and heart rate. I've had heart issues since I was a child, and I can recall entertaining myself when hooked up to heart monitors by raising and lowering my heart rate, or making it settle at different rates. At the time I didn't think it was a big deal - I thought everyone could do it.

I have no idea what is actually going on in the body when this all occurs, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who can do it. None of my friends or family can, so they never understood what I was talking about. They just thought it was odd whenever I'd show them how I could raise goosebumps at will.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: itsalive on 12/11/2013 05:32:36
No, you guys definitely aren't alone. The heart rate thing I was a bit unsure was related. It's pretty cool to have that level of control of the mind/body but I too sometimes wonder if it could only cause complications later on. I've just come to terms to think of it as some form of channeling inner chi.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Rennie on 26/11/2013 05:17:02
I was just browsing through to find out about Goosebumps. I can control them as I want and I can create goose bumps all over my body, keep them as long as I want and then take it of. I never try to lower or increase my pulse. I do feel it has to be a mind over body effect. My friends find it weird that I can do that. It all has to do with the mind. It will be good to learn to slow down the heart rate.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Syxx676 on 17/12/2013 07:44:00
I just had to join this thread, as I too can do the same thing.  Send goosebumps and raise the hairs on my arm on command... curious to read more about this...
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: user1989 on 18/12/2013 23:47:27
hello there , i am also able to control goosebumps, im from roumania ,i'm 24 well i guess we could make like a little list see how many can gather here and where from ,(i know my english is not that good)
PS: take care
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: beatyouonce on 04/02/2014 21:12:16
Its amazing to see so many people here all sayign the same thing, and all hoping that this "power" turns into something more. Also ROOOMANIA!! lol  =)

if anyone is down for some chatting about this I have a e-mail i created, to tlak to others about this. Shoot me an e-mail at goosebumpcontrol at the geee mail
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Sku on 03/03/2014 23:06:10
Hello everyone,

you really made me register here too, good job. ;)

I've read every single post till here, it took me about 3 hours with some breaks.

I'm male, 24y, blonde, can't get fat no matter what I eat, and was better then everyone else in sports at school,...actually I was always good at everything I tried (no matter if sports, math, science, pc, machines, call it gifted or whatever you want, it just makes life boring..no challenges :/)
My eyes got bad when I was like 10, refused the glasses till I was 16, had a lasersurgery on them 4 months ago, and can make my view as blurry as when I couldn't see well.
But there are some of you like this, right?

Anyway.

I also got my goosebumps "somehow" under controll. My memories of using it go back to somewhere when I was 15-16 and I was exploring some forrests with my cousin while the family was BBQ'ing. We came accross a cliff which we wanted to pass, but there was only a fallen tree usable as a passage. As I got up there I almost sh*t my pants because of the fear....but then I rememberd something from Dragonball (pretty much into animes) and I pushed my fear with the goosebumps away, with every wave the fear washed away and I was able to walk over the tree, stand in the middle and fear nothing negative.

At the moment I've been playing around with those goosebumps for 2-3 weeks because it was somehow always there and I didnt really noticed it to that extend.
For me it works something like this...
I can create somekind of tension in my body but it feels like its a different layer of matter, it is there where my body is, but it does'nt touch it everywhere.
So to activate it to make my body feel it, I imagine something like a neverending flamebursting explosion in the middle of myself, and it starts to create waves that beginn in the lower half of my head (if you would divide it horizontally in the middle) and rush through my whole body first, then I can let the next bursts flow somehow where I want them.
The thing is, if I hear or imagine somekind of epic music (or at least music which I connect to epic moments in animes/movies), if I imagine myself emiting flames from every inch of my body, or if I imagine myself having wings (yeah weird, but I have always had pretty vivid dreams about it since I can remember anything, and it keeps repeating), then those goosebumps go to an extreme that my nose beginns to bleed a little and my head starts shaking a little like getting in touch with electricity.
If I close my eyes with that it gets even more extreme, but that really did hurt so not gonna try it for a while...

After those extrem bumps, I get hungry as hell, I swear I could eat and eat after that.
My heart makes me feel like I'm really tired and it feels like its sitting there, puping some blood in a bullet, and then shooting it into the body, so my heartbeat goes pretty much down.
Another thing I noticed is also like you got it with the painreception. I can neglect pretty much of the incoming pain with the bumps.

As I've seen from most of you, we seem to think or/and feel that we have something that not everyone has. And from some posts here I've also got the feeling that they would like to say stuff they cant in the public, and thats also a point why I guess some off us here would like to get in contact with the others.

I would love to actually, and I would like to find someone who could teach me how to make use of this.
Hope to hear from you're experiences, I'll try some off them.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: miamisinatra on 10/03/2014 17:54:59
Hi Jolyon, I too can make myself get goosebumps from something I can trigger in my head.  I've always been curious about it wondering if I could somehow trigger other "hidden" abilities.  They say that humans only utilize 10% of their brains true capabilities.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: user1989 on 10/03/2014 22:10:18
and why would someone from roumania get a lol ????
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Omnifarious Nefarious on 25/04/2014 03:39:54
I too, also have this exact same ability. Much in the way of the others, and the OP. I can control my goosebumps at will. I breath slowly, and deeply out, and kind of flex the area around the base of my neck (the back) ever so slightly, which causes this invigorating feeling of electricity to spew out from the upper portion of my back, (base of the brain stem area to the top of the shoulders) and it spreads out from there. Doing this causes me to go kind of cross-eyed, and I get this sound of rushing water in my inner ear which then gives me a bulging feeling in my inner ear when I release the tension from my head and neck area.

I believe it to be an indirect/direct stimuli thing. It's VERY easy to create and hold goosebumps if I think of something that would give me pride and excitement at the same time. (Being a super powered hero during a battle, knowing your power, and being cocky because of it. That sense of, "I'm the prince of all Saiyans!" will get goosebumps NO problem.) To do it without thinking those happy, prideful thoughts is harder, and produces a smaller effect, but those goose bumps can be held for a longer period of time, but they're duller. They mostly stay in the lower half of my extremities.  The goosebumps form around my calf and shin areas, and stay there until I release them, or they fade on their own, sames goes for my forearms when doing this without thinking of things and scenarios to trigger it. For those Dragon Ball Z fans,  you know how the combat armor with the big pauldrons was shaped that most of Frieza's men wore? In that shape, layed over my body, is where the feeling of goosebumps go. Over the shoulders, curving down onto the body, skipping the thighs and upper arms, and being very strong in the forearms and lower legs.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RD on 25/04/2014 05:30:21
... They say that humans only utilize 10% of their brains true capabilities.

Not in this forum "they" don't ... http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/2760/

https://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: cheryl j on 25/04/2014 14:12:36
The goose bump thing sounds a little like ASMR. Most people who experience ASMR get it in response to certain images or sounds, but some people can induce the sensation without any stimulus. It's described as a pleasant tingly sensation that generally starts in the scalp or back of the head and passes down the back or through the shoulders, sometimes all the way down to the feet. Here are some links if you are interested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_response


http://www.asmr-research.org/

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/491/transcript
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Kevinsgustavson on 20/05/2014 19:16:18
Wow!!! Let me start off by saying I've been pondering the answer to is question for 5 years now.  I've been a newbie and. Have been searching for "the chills" but obviously that's synonymous with goosebumps!,

So my story is pretty crazy so I'm going to summarize it and if anyone has questions please don't hesitate to contact me!

So I am 25 years old, and when I was 20 I did the master cleanse and also journaled for the first time in my life.  The journaling was basically asking question after question, stemming new questions I would've never formulated without e previous one. After about 200 pages of writing for about one or two weeks straight, I felt a mental calmness that is very hard to describe.  But basically this new calmness or mental awareness allowed me to trigger "the chills" or goosebumps until this day. Previous to all of my writing I would only get the chills in very rare circumstances from an intense movie scene etc which seems to be somewhat common.  But now if I am very relaxed and reflect on that the. I am able to trigger these goosebumps at a rapid pace and even can cool my body down. As far as pulse is concerned, I have been at 45 bpm bc my cardio is so good but never really measured during a meditative state, I'd imagine I'd be in the 30s.

Going to read through these pages..
But very happy I found you guys!

All the best
Kevin
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RD on 21/05/2014 00:00:15
... 200 pages of writing for about one or two weeks straight ...

Compulsive writing can be a symptom of epilepsy ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergraphia
Focal-seizure could explain the unusual sensations and mental-states ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_seizure
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: cheryl j on 21/05/2014 05:18:45
Just out of curiosity, Kevinsgustavason and Omnifarious, do you ever experience this sensation in response to certain sounds or images as well? Typical triggers include tapping, scratching, crinkling, rustling, brushing, certain voices, or whispering, and certain kinds of repetitive finger movements. It might be interesting to check out the different ASMR videos on youtube and see if they have any effect on you. The videos might strike you as odd at first, but it's interesting to see what different people respond to. Here's one for example: Or try
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: mpp on 21/07/2014 21:49:23
Hi
Have this since I can remember,  can do all of symptoms that havebeen posted.
But i can mantain the rushing over and over, make my eyes water, make my muscles contract and shake,heart speed up and slow down I canlift heavier weights, my eyes focus better, feel almost electric, pulsating, especialy when im out and a storm is brewing,  like something is gonna happen, like im waiting for somthing, my muscles start shaking and teeth can chatter uncontrollably  very spiritual, very weird, im in mid thirties and never spoke of this before


Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ironwok on 01/09/2014 19:34:16
I happen to also be able to do this.  I'm not entirely sure if it is the exact same "goose bump" effect.  The total time limit I can keep this going is usually around half an hour in a session. [got other things to do].
I find it is not so much trying to have goosebumps as much as it is letting a wave of energy pass through your body.  This adrenaline like feeling I found is easiest to try and control from the spine. 

The first key is breathing deeply.  Feel the rush of air into your lungs.  I also found that if you have troubles starting, music you really like can help you get an idea of what the "feeling" feels like.  If you are doing it right, as you inhale, you should be able to feel the "goosebump" wave throughout your back and spine, sometimes legs. 

Try and repeat the tingling process, at the peak of each breath [building up the feeling as you breathe in].  I found that you have to build up intensity with each breath to really get it going.

If you have been using music or something that stimulates the response, try and remove it after a while and activate it without a trigger.

The real trick which I am still trying to get to is let this feeling pass through your arms to your hands.  I have made progress from middle back/shoulder blade, to working it out to just past my elbows.  It seems to be really hard to work it towards your hands.  I think it may be possible however, seeing as I've made it progress through more than half my arms with a LOT of practice.

Usually good places to do it is if you are riding in a car or on a bus, [not driving] because it is an adrenaline response [i think].

I am a 25 year old male, and an athlete in peak fitness.  I've had this tingling response very strongly my entire life, but did not start controlling it until about 22.

Another physiological attribute of mine [not necessarily proud of] is that i'm a berserker.  I've spent a life of training myself daily to not enter that state.  This is really only activated by extreme emotional or extreme physical pain response.  I am curious if this has anything to do with the ability to constantly keep the goosebump feeling going. 

the best explanation I got for keeping the feeling active and constant is;

try and re-release that dopamine as a response to the release of dopamine.  What I mean is you need that goosebump feeling to excite you in the same way music does ect.  Its like a runaway effect.  Once you start the feeling, the feeling GIVES you the feeling.  I guess a way to summarize it is similar to the runaway greenhouse effect on earth.  earth heats up, melts permafrost, releases methane, heats up even more, melts more permafrost, releases more methane.


if epic music, some sport, sex, some activity etc gives you goosebumps because you like it or it excites you.  I can't speak for women because I'm not one, so the triggers I listed might not work.  You have to find what works for you.


 I know this sounds really weird, but its the best description I have.  I really hope this helps, as it can be used for extreme adrenaline release, which can be used in sports [and other things].  Imagine your at a starting line and you can make your hairs stand on end to the point where you want to laugh and cry at the same time [literally start tearing up].  When you begin you don't feel any fatigue at all and exercise seems entirely effortless.  The trick is keeping it going throughout the race.

I also found that when you're in this state you can do improv effortlessly.  so writing song lyrics on the spot just flows.  same with speaking or attempting to motivate others [team motivational speech].



So at Jolyon, it does have a use and give this a try.  Hope it helps!

let me know if anyone finds this mental state useful for anything other that what I've listed.
If you don't meditate, you should start.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: okpc on 20/09/2014 01:42:15
"Goosegumps" for me can be observed within two poles and a middle neutral point:

(+) Thinking or having a moment of true awe, inspiration and/or when you hear or think something that is true to yourself.

(-) When getting the fear of getting "eaten" in some way or really ****ed up.

(*) Neutral:  It can be done at will with doing and feeling a good, slow, full breath. It helps a lot to start it off with having my eyes closed. The more of them in a row, the better. As I feel it, these eletric waves can be directed, ussually from the bottom of the spine orfrom the neck the neck , through the back, and to the limbs (specially if extended). When gone up to the head and into the top of the skull it really feels like an electric crown at the top. 
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Annewarbs1 on 06/11/2014 21:40:18
You guys need to try this! I don't know if this counts as meditating or what or even if it will actually work for you guys but. Try lying in bed after dark and turn out the lights leaving a dim lamp or something in the corner of the room. Then put in your head phones, close your eyes and listen to some intense music like work out/dance/remix music. Then focus on the music but not individually on the lyrics or bass but on the feeling it gives as a whole. Slowly your heart rate should increase then focus on your body. Imagine your body is one big muscle and you want to flex it. While your doing that try and see the darkness of your eyes closed. It feels similar to when you 'blur' your vision. 'fall' into the dark, envision a great big black hole and your sliding/falling through it. Now your body should start twitching, fingers, legs everything. Do Not let this distract you remember focus is KEY.
I cant properly describe the feeling but once you have it you will know. And it takes physical effort to keep it up!
Now here comes the cool/freaky part. Once you've got the focus shift it to your hand. Try and 'build up' the focus in your hand then when you feel your ready move your hand in front of your face about 20cm (without breaking focus) and open your eyes. You should still be able to see mostly (lamp in the corner) aka not pitch black. Then 'blur' your eyes like you usually do and your hand will completely fade out! Like disappear. Obviously its still there but its seriously cool and freaky. When you 'come down' you will notice that your breathing heavily and your heart is pounding dw it will slow fairly quickly though the twitching will go down to a slight shake, it goes away in like 30 mins.

I don't believe in having super powers or anything crazy but I'm pretty sure that when I do this I'm building up LOADS of adrenaline and I think that further study and experiments could lead to something cool? The music is a kinda 'trigger' for me. 

(Reading up on it and seeing everyone's comments and being reassured that others can also do this helps)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: TheBakester66 on 12/11/2014 22:51:43
Hello everyone,

Like most of you, I registered for this site specifically to post about my experiences with ASMR, goosebumps, whatever you want to call it.  My experiences are the same as many of you in some ways and different in others. So i'll try to focus on the differences.

I am a 31 year old male, I am a long distance runner, I have always had extreme mental toughness and control.  I've nearly died twice in car accidents, once when I was 12, the other when I was 17.  I am a computer engineer from a prestigious university.  I don't meditate in the traditional sense but my mind is racing constantly. 

I can pretty much control my goosebumps at will.  But my theory as to how these are created is different from what many post.  I don't think we are creating energy waves, I think we are feeling/ absorbing the energy around us (for those of you star wars buffs, let's call it the force, without all the cool powers, yet...) I can control the energy around me at will, and I can experience it in my toes and hands completely separated from my head, or completely throughout my body, without external stimuli. 

With external stimuli, I feel less control over what I'm doing, but it can be more powerful at times as well. 

I don't believe I can control my heartrate or pulse.  I have never felt that I could not feel pain through this, but I have absolutely felt that feeling of being able to literally jump over a house or have the strength to do twice as many push-ups as I ever could other wise.  I haven't tested the strength training at all, but those of us who have felt it.  My god, it feels like you have unlimited power running through your body, insane.  I have to focus and give it time to achieve this effect.

I wanted to add that drinking alcohol in excess and eating too much dampens my ability to absorb or control the energy (or at least it seems to). 

I started testing sending this energy.  At times, I felt that I could create a ball of energy between my hands and send it to people.  I decided to test the theory, and weird things would happen.  People would call me out of the blue saying that they were thinking about me, and they didn't live near me and I hadn't spoken to them in days or weeks.  I feel like my ability to control this sent energy is debatable at best.  And the scientist in me thinks that that I could be forcing outcomes, or misreading coincidence or small sample sizes, among a myriad of other potential issues with any testing.  At least one person has claimed that they legitly felt the energy transferred to them.  I have always believed that humans will evolve to something much greater, and that there are new abilities that will come with long-term genetic mutation. 

After reading some of your thoughts on potential healing, I would like to try that next. 

I'm fairly positive that I'm not crazy, though I sometimes question whether I am or not.  In the end,  I simply believe there is more to us than we realize, much more, and we have to believe to unlock it.

I am glad to have read many of your stories.

I hope mine helps others searching for Answers.

-Chris
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Kevinsgustavson on 17/11/2014 16:08:30
I TRIGGER THE GOOSEBUMPS ALL DAY AND AM ADDICTED TO IT

it only started when I cleared my mind by journaling a lot at age 20, now at 25
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: vmochi on 07/12/2014 04:43:34
I've never told anyone that I had this ability because I didn't know how to explain it. It was described perfectly throughout this thread.

My experience with this:

The waves usually occur at the back of my skull and spread down my back and in to the back of my legs and arms. However, I can trigger it starting in other parts of my body but starting from the back of my head seems relay the strongest signal. I am also able to transfer these from my lower body in to the back of my head and forehead.

I've always felt as if this energy could be used as some type of healing instinctively as others have stated. I've attempted self-healing as well as trying to transfer this energy to relieve someones headache and she said that it helped. I've only tried this once. While reading my way through this forum I had a headache and used the waves to transfer energy up in to the spot that was in pain, and I haven't had the headache since.

I also experience these waves when being inspired or when something I believe is true or has meaning to me transpires. As another has said sort of like a "radar" I guess. I'll take a minute to register what someone has said or done and if I get the chills as a signal I'll perceive it to be genuine. Somewhat of a lie detector test. I don't base all of my decisions off this or attempt to use it that much.

As far as dreams I've had a few that later manifested in real life. The details where different but the people and situations were the same. I also randomly think of movies and later see them on television. I think everyone's probably done this once or twice.

I've also noticed a familiar energy radiating from crows and blue jays. I'm not sure why, but something clicked when I read that.

I liked the video about your brain and God. It makes sense that there is a specific set of brain waves when you think of "God" of your own understanding just as if you were to think of food. Each one being unique. I do find when reaching out to God, of my own understanding, and praying that I get these same kind of waves in response to my questions. They have to be honest prayers. I have to really mean what I'm asking or it doesn't work. I have to reflect on the feeling generated by these waves in order to interpret the correct decision. It's not always a clear "yes" or "no" response. Although, sometimes the signal is so strong that there is only one definitive answer.

That's how I first realized I could sort of trigger these feelings. I'm now able to do it on my own without prayer or random inspiration. I do not need to think any thoughts or search for external stimuli to generate these waves. It's somewhat instantaneous and I seem to be able to do it as often as I want. The longest and strongest signals I can do last less than 10-15 seconds but I can do small bursts of waves for hours that last 5-7 seconds. Closing my eyes does intensify these waves but I can do it with them open as well. I can do them laying down but it's weaker. I cannot trigger them while holding my breath. It's hard for me to trigger them in "dead air" as mentioned such as being on public transportation and no one is talking.

I thought that everyone could do the blurry vision thing. I've always done that. When I was little I use to close my eyes and see bright orange spots floating towards me. When I close my eyes now I can see them in the distance but they are not as strong or vibrant. When I sit up to fast I see multiple colors kind of like TV pixels that flash. I've seen the blue waves of lights as well, also purple. When I look at a bright background, such as the computer, but mostly the blue sky I can see hundreds of white cells swarming around in my eyes like you would if you looked at cells under a microscope.

Once after completing and recording a 15 song album in less than one week, while staying up late and putting all of my efforts and energy in to it I laid down in the grass in my backyard. There was a single cloud in the sky and as I looked at it, it burst in to thin air and disappeared. I have no idea if this was just good timing or if I had transferred some type of energy in to it. I would like to believe that I experienced "cloud bursting" like in the movie "The Men Who Stare At Goats" but I've never been able to replicate that achievement.

These waves make me feel good but I try not to really use them too often unless I really need to, however I've been triggering them like crazy since reading this thread just to see what I could do. I tried looking in the mirror while I triggered them but my pupils didn't dilate. They may have a little bit but nothing too noticeable.

Alcohol does inhibit the ability to trigger these waves for me, but I don't drink often enough to really confirm this.

Glad to see that others are experiencing the same thing and I'm not alone.  [:)]
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: lm93 on 15/12/2014 07:12:24
did anyone go to the doctor to find out what this is because I can do this also

For me it goes like this

I breathe in and the more I breathe in the more powerful the effect is and it starts as a warm feeling in my brain and it travels throughout my body when I let it go and I can focus it to different body parts as well, it always gives me goosebumps and but I do it mainly when I'm in pain or have a headache because it nullifies the pain temporarily(it wasn't like this at first) not to mention other things but it every time I do this(whatever it is) I get a sharp pain in my head a certain amount of time afterwards. I don't meditate or do any of that stuff either and pretty much have been able to do this thing since as far back as I can remember. I started getting incredibly powerful headaches(cluster headaches) for about a year straight about 2 years ago after getting injured and they were are terrible, nothing I can think of even comes minutely close to them and I did this to help with them in terms of pain for me. This is when I started to really realize I could stop pain with it, on the cluster headaches I was suffering from which were far far far far worst than typical migraine for me, It helped a little but on normal headaches it nulls them for a solid hour, on everything else it was like chilling effect almost and resulted in an almost dull feeling I guess. Its more than likely because I suffered from the clusters though that I could use it for pain though I don't know. My tolerance for pain was a good bit higher afterwards so I don't notice the sharp pains really anymore.

Is it like that for you all also.

Does anyone know what this is, I always wondered what it was but could never find anything besides ASMR.

thanks
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: vrsmart on 15/12/2014 16:13:47
I also have the ability to induce goosebumps at will. I never thought too much of it until I began to wonder about two things: 1. Could there be some good use of this ability?, and 2. Is there a down side? I have read many of the posts in this thread and have not yet found answers. Has anyone come up with any?

I wonder about a potential positive aspect to  this ability, since I regularly experience the phenomenon, involuntarily, in certain contexts where some actual good might be happening to someone when it happens. To be more specific, it can happen when I lay hands on someone in prayer (I am a Christian minister who believes in divine healing, among other spiritual phenomena). My line of thinking is that, perhaps there is some beneficial transfer of energy to the other person when this happens, In this case, though I believe in the possibility of supernatural occurrences, this could simply be a natural process. If I could exercise it at will, it might be useful.

Now, as to the second question, as I have learned that the process involves the adrenal glands, my concern is whether or not such stimulation without a need for fight or flight might be bad for the body, since there is no physical activity to "burn off" the extra energy provided by this response. My concern is heightened by the fact that I do seem to be prone to anxiety, and it would seem wise not to add to it by willfully activating this process.

Now let me briefly explain how the voluntary process works for me. It seems to be sufficient for me to simply choose to initiate the response and concentrate on a spot near the base of the skull. I have no idea what I am doing other than that, but it works. I hypothesize that my mind, on some level, has learned what it feels like when the response happens involuntarily, and is able to reproduce it when I simply will it to be so. What happens, neurologically and physiologically, between the intent and the initiation of the consciously discernible feeling, I don't know. In any event, once I have set the thing in motion, I feel energy go throughout my body, most noticeably in the arms and legs. The hair on my arms will rise slightly (my legs are pretty non-hairy!).

I return to the question of whether I should or should not use and perhaps even develop this ability, or might I better leave it alone.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: dlorde on 15/12/2014 16:52:26
I return to the question of whether I should or should not use and perhaps even develop this ability, or might I better leave it alone.
Why? use it for what?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: spardanto on 08/02/2015 23:24:13
So im  doing my yearly check in and seeing how this thread as progressed.For any scientists or those interested my research since last posting it has led me to some unsetteling places with regards to this ability and dreams.But before that i thought i'd post a summary of this ability and what we know so far collated from this thread and others around the net:

The ability usually coincides with puberty or after
The ability is usually first brought on by a powerful event/expereience and this is often due to music
The ability is usually voluntary once a certain amount of the ability is experienced
The ability tends to differ slightly between individuals but is on the whole explained and experienced the same way.
People describing the ability also tend to use the same/similar words as others.
ESP or some other power/s is often attributed to the developement of the ability (only with Anecdotal evidence,for now at least)
Pregognition and abilities relating to deja vu are experienced by some people with this ability
This ability has been tested within one scientific survey relating to it being induced via music,so far they seem to only be entertaining the idea of testing people based on the premise that it's the music inducing it and are not entertaining the idea that people can go on to do it voluntariliy or as of yet have no plan to test those who can VIG.
VIG is also known as AMSR and suggests essentially that we are tapping into what is normally an autonomic response though lack any explanation as to why and is often seen as a party trick much the same way wiggling ones ears is,sadly is discounts VIG literally as just inducing goosebumps whilst not explaining it's other effects (feel good factor etc)
In a certain percentage of posts people have posted having nerve disorders,being related to someone with a nerve disorder or brain based disorders (whether or nots it's related to over use of the ability or just linked to the ability in general is speculation at this point but i feel the need to mention it)

Those are the facts as i know them,i've left out any mentions of god,super powers and the like etc since it's not a universally experienced thing, as some believe in gods,powers etc whilst others just think it's a cool trick they can do nothing more.

I'll now be posting my own personal experiences with this ability and it's application to dreams,please feel free to disregard what i say but please note the above mentioned points are devoid of bias etc so you may trust them at the very least.

I am not a religious man,in fact if i were to say what religion i follow i would say "science".But science doesn't claim to know all the answers,it's constantly asking the question why? How? Is it a fact? etc and i consider myself an academic studying ancient texts and books in the hopes of finding information the ancient peoples of the earth mistook for other things

So when i explain the next 2 dreams i hope you understand where i'm coming from.

(In these 2 instances the ability was triggered at a constant level peaking at moments of revelation)
The first i dreamt i was in a place called Shangri La (some of you no doubt know of this place)

An ancient city of stone bathed in twilight,i started walking forward and looked up and only then did i realise the piece of land i was on was infact falling as i saw clouds rush past above.But it was literally falling forever,it would never hit anything below it (this is what i knew in my mind)

As i continued forward i came across a Bengal Tiger,it slowly,cautiously approached me and i to it.For a moment we stared into each others eyes and then i sat down and he came closer and we nuzzled each other as one tiger might another in greeting and it was then i realised i was the Tiger,it was me,my soul (so i thought in the dream).The ability intensified and stared at each other again and i awoke.

Dream 2.

There's no good way of putting this so i'll just come out and say it

I dreamt i met god.Big guy,white beard (the silly impression most people have of what he looks like)

He said "You know me don't you?"
Skeptically i said "I know who you your meant to be"
"Who is that" he smiled
"God right?"
He smiled again
Then his expression changed and more seriously said
"You know where we are?"
"Yes" (i knew without being told and it wasn't heaven or anything like that but a different place,it felt like a space in which nothing had yet formed but anything could be created)
"Be careful here your thoughts....." and i interupted him and finished the sentence
"Can shape and change this place right?"

He turned to face me properly and approvingly made a "Hmph" noise

I felt at that moment that thoughts and feelings literally shaped and changed reality and then i awoke

Now as i said im not religious,im open to the idea of the possability of things beyond us,higher planes and unexplained things but i trust in science.Yet i can't help but question the dreams.Do i take them at face value or do i accept that it was in a sense lucid dreaming enforced by the ability.

Im not sure if any of you have had the ability accidentally trigger during sleep but its far far more intense and i can both  voluntariliy and unvoluntarily acitivate it whilst asleep and when it happens the wierder wacky dreams happen.

I've been encouraging this type of dreaming more as if nothing else im seemingly exploring my psyche.As stated i could likely explain these grand dreams as nothing more than lucid dreams based on historical and mythological things ive read about.Yet a tiny part of me can't help wonder "what if there is more to all of this?"
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gizem on 28/02/2015 00:18:02
Have you guys heard about the Frisson? It's the goosebumps effect people get from musics, movies etc. Similar to ASMR but ASMR omes from a sense of security i think.
Also i don't know if anyone tried this but, i get very strong goosebumps when i keep the hairdryer at the lower back of my head for a while(the same place i activate VIG) or during very hot showers. Just try it (Dont burn yourselves though :D )
I have this for at least 8 years now and no supernatural powers achieved until now :D I am not the sportive type and didn't get any improved healing :( . But I'm good at solving puzzles, people see me as a smart person usually. I don't meditate or do chi stuff. But i am usually silent, lazy not panicked easily, and stable in general. Also, I can't do slow-the-heartbeat thingy. I really want to try that lie machine thing though :D Share your opinions people! I visit this forum from time to time~
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: bugbuck on 03/04/2015 11:57:25
Hey guys I'm a Hongkie so please dont tease me if my English sucks [xx(].
I can do the same thing as you guys mentioned-namely creating goosebumps without any external stimuli(I consider music and physical touch as external stimuli).
I'm not sure about the mechanism, but what I can describe is somehow similar to you guys-a kind of weird sensation spreading from the back of my skull to my whole body. I have to use some efforts to create such effect, by holding my breath and doing some tricks at the origin of the sensation(somehow like squeezing it). It seems that I'm using some of my muscles as I may get a bit fatigue after some attempts.

I guess this phenomenon is like moving your ears voluntarily like Mr Bean(In fact I can move my ear voluntarily too), just some silly tricks of no use. (Of course you can do it for fun or to amaze the others)

BTW, there is a journal I can share with you guys, proving that voluntary control of piloerection does exist-Objective and continuous measurement of piloerection(2010) by Mathias Benedek et al in Psychophysiology, volume 47 , 989–993(sorry for omitting other authors' names-they're just too long.).
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: DustinWoldt on 27/04/2015 11:12:37
I have always been able to use this trick/ability as far back as I can remember. I've even gone so far as to try to move objects with my mind while doing it. I've followed this thread for years, checking back occasionally when the thought of it strikes my curiosity again. I figured I'd post here. I'd love to keep in contact with others who can do it or at least talk to someone else who can. It's hard not being able to talk openly about it and I just have a sense that there is more to it than simply inducing a chill/electrical surge down your body. My name is Dustin Woldt. Add me on Facebook, I'd like to talk to anybody who is able to do this.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: JDoesScience on 02/05/2015 00:12:45
Hello everyone - strap yourselves in, this is going to be a long one.

First of all, a few people have asked where the scientific interest is on this. Well, there isn't much in that vein, but what everyone's describing here has been described at least THREE times in published journal articles (at least, three times that I've found - there may be more). These references are:

Maxwell, 1902. http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/7/4/369
Lindsley and Sassman, 1938. http://jn.physiology.org/content/1/4/342
Benedek et.al., 2010. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233341

Interestingly, this hasn't resulted in much formal research. I can't understand why, though, because I agree with everyone here - this is definitely worth looking into. The first thing which caught my attention was certain threads of similarity which extend through the descriptions given here over the last few years, descriptions which are quite consistent between people:

1) the focal point on the back of the head or neck
2) the 'spreading' sensation down the back to the arms
3) the relatively straightforward control of the goosebumps - you don't imagine scary things, you just 'do' it

You might be interested to know I've collected a few other descriptions of the same phenomenon elsewhere, and they match up fairly closely with what everyone's said here. Why have I done this? Because I'm a physiological psychologist, and I'm particularly interested in physical phenomena which seems to be provoked by (or in turn provoke themselves) emotions. Everyone's heard of the expressions where we express emotions in physical terms: 'he turns my stomach' or 'my stomach had butterflies' or 'i felt like a weight pressing down on me' or 'i felt my heart racing' - it's these sorts of things we use as windows in the the integration between the mind and body. As might be expected, the 'voluntary goosebump' phenomenon might be a fascinating window into strong, positive emotions like intense arousal, joy, or awe... which is where we generally see goosebumps occurring.

I'll speculate a little here: I think somehow what you've all stumbled over is to do with triggering an autonomic nervous system response, for two reasons: firstly, that's the actual 'conduit' between your brain and the little muscles at the bottom of your hairs, and secondly, because it's too fast to be anything else - a few people have described the ability to pop goosebumps up and down over the span of a few seconds. Well, I suspect this wouldn't be possible by a hormonal mechanism or anything like it, they don't work that fast.

What's really cool about this whole thing is this is the autonomic nervous system we're talking about - you're not supposed to be able to control it! Or if you can, you're not supposed to be able to turn it on and off at will. There's a big mystery at the center of how everyone's 'skill' works, and not one that I've readily found an answer to. And research into questions like this is my job.

So, here's what would be fantastic:

1. If you can do the conscious control of goosebumps thing, send me a private message through this site so we can talk about it... I have lots of questions, and you might be able to help. Don't worry about me missing your message, I WILL check them regularly.

2. If you're reading this because you figured out you could do this, but haven't signed up for this site yet, sign up! - it's quick, I promise - and leave your experiences here. We'd all be very curious to know your thoughts and experiences.

3. If you know of any other resources on this, any explanations, or anyone else that can do this, send them here.

Lots more to follow, but I want to see if anyone sees this first.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: adodge on 05/05/2015 04:39:29
Just an update, It has been a couple of years since I first posted on here but I have also noticed some practical uses for this, it gives me complete and immediate relief if I feel a headache coming on (with the exception of being hung over and dehydrated, only water seems to help there).  It also provides an escape for any kind of stress that I may be feeling, though I suppose most headaches are caused by stress so that would make perfect sense.  I have considered what it would be like to do it while dreaming, but often I forget I have the ability even while awake so that would definitely take some persistence.  I have only touched on this once while dreaming myself, and it was an otherwise normal dream where I was in my grandma's house, and for no particular reason I got the tingles, it didn't last very long because everything got extremely bright as the feeling intensified and then I woke up.  I have even had a few times where I have even been able to control and extend orgasms, which is especially awesome.  They say tantric sex is based on meditation, so it seems like there may be a link there as well.  For me, it really boils down to a certain amount of self-awareness, this can of course be triggered by external stimuli (ASMR, Frisson), but the best ones for me are the kind that are triggered internally.  These normally start out fairly mild, but by simply recognizing that I am actually doing it myself in turn creates a kind of feedback loop where I can amplify each successive "wave" until it becomes quite intense.  It is always very pleasurable, and it occurred to me as well that this could even promote a healing response simply because I felt so relaxed and rejuvenated but objectively testing such a thing poses other challenges.  Either way, if what they say is true about stress killing you (which of course it does) then this MUST be good for your health, if nothing else because it gives me so much relief from any stress that I may be feeling, no matter how bad my day is going.  As I said in one of my previous posts, I discovered I could do this at will after getting clean from pills, and since then I have had some relapses and this actually gives me profound, albeit temporary relief from withdrawal symptoms, it seems to act as a shortcut to a meditative state.  All I need to consistently trigger this is to simply remember that I can, that I have the ability.  From there it is a matter of focusing and amplifying the sensation until I feel better.  It's very calming and rejuvenating at the same time, and works wonders whenever I am feeling helpless or overwhelmed.  My strongest and earliest memory of ASMR by external stimuli was when the movie Stigmata came out, and one particularly striking line, said to be taken from the dead sea scrolls, still gives me some of the strongest goosebumps to this day:

The Kingdom of God is inside you, and all around you, not in mansions of wood and stone. Split a piece of wood... and I am there, lift a stone... and you will find me.

It's very empowering, and even just the first bit, "the Kingdom of God is inside you" is all it takes anymore...
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: OmarAlB on 06/05/2015 17:54:46
I've never met anyone who is able to do this beside myself. anyway I noticed that you cant talk while doing that trigger thing, or is it just that my mind cant focus while talking?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: yogi007 on 17/05/2015 23:15:00
I also have this ability, and likewise find the origination point at the base of the skull on the back of the neck.  The following may be of interest to others here:

http://www.emotion.uni-kiel.de/fileadmin/emotion/team/kaernbach/publications/2010_ben_al_psychophysiol.pdf
BRIEF REPORT
Objective and continuous measurement of piloerection
MATHIAS BENEDEK,a,b BARBARA WILFLING,b REINGARD LUKAS-WOLFBAUER,b
BJO¨RN H. KATZUR,a and CHRISTIAN KAERNBACHa
a: Institut fu¨r Psychologie, Christian-Albrechts-Universita¨t zu Kiel, Kiel, Germany
b: Institut fu¨r Psychologie, Karl-Franzens-Universita¨t Graz, Graz, Austria

Abstract
Increasing attention is drawn to the investigation of piloerection (or goose bumps) in response to strong emotional
experiences. This research is complicated by the need to rely on self-report measures. This article proposes an efficient
method for the objective and continuous measurement of piloerection. It is based on an optical recording device
combined with a discrete Fourier transform analysis quantifying the frequency power related to visible piloerection.
The validity of the method was demonstrated in a proof-of-principle experiment involving a person with the exceptional
ability to control the erection of his hair
. The method reliably mapped all occurrences of visible piloerection and
provided insight into the temporal dynamics of the underlying physiological process. It thus proved suitable for future
experimental investigation of human piloerection.

This research tool also, curoiusly, real: http://www.goosecam.de/gooselab.html 
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: JDoesScience on 19/05/2015 02:01:39
So, here's what would be fantastic:

1. If you can do the conscious control of goosebumps thing, send me a private message through this site so we can talk about it... I have lots of questions, and you might be able to help. Don't worry about me missing your message, I WILL check them regularly.

2. If you're reading this because you figured out you could do this, but haven't signed up for this site yet, sign up! - it's quick, I promise - and leave your experiences here. We'd all be very curious to know your thoughts and experiences.

3. If you know of any other resources on this, any explanations, or anyone else that can do this, send them here.


Just wanted to stop back in and say thank you to the half-dozen people who've contacted me in the last fortnight. The above offer still stands!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Arjunadawn on 19/05/2015 06:55:32
Hello everyone - strap yourselves in, this is going to be a long one.

First of all, a few people have asked where the scientific interest is on this. Well, there isn't much in that vein, but what everyone's describing here has been described at least THREE times in published journal articles (at least, three times that I've found - there may be more). These references are:

Maxwell, 1902. http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/7/4/369
Lindsley and Sassman, 1938. http://jn.physiology.org/content/1/4/342
Benedek et.al., 2010. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233341

Thank you; (Yes, the 2nd link seems to be spot on). Unless I missed something 2 of 3 of these reports above also have triggers or actions that result in the outcome. Frequently, very frequently, we slide into this situation and that is the reason that this and other forums that have similar posts have slid into a hybrid forum for discussing triggers that result in xyz and people who are the trigger resulting in xyz- manifest, measurable, objective phenomena. The result is having to currently sift through the posts and discern the bona fides that posters who actually experience this ability from those who are having sensorial responses well known in the literature. Hearing sounds that provoke physical responses was known considerably further back than even the Oracle of Delphi. Humans have known this.. always. It is the foundation of Om and chanting. It is... cymatics acting on the human body and provocative. I [we] do not have this as the issue. It is beyond question that there are two or more very different phenomena discussed here; One of mild curiosity and one in profound conflict with medically accepted rules of physiology.

From the original post, to various posters, and myself, here is the issue for us: We can control our heart rate at will- immediately, now, instantaneously and without thought, emotion, breath or contraction. We control our blood pressure equally, our eye pupils and variously piloerection. Goosebumps cannot, for me, happen without concurrent heart rate increase, etc. It is a package deal though I can adjust the level for effect. With biofeedback people like me can hit any desired goal from heart rate normal to 160, 180, 200, 210, and this is about my limit. Curiously the pulse pressure widens with the diastolic remaining changes by roughly 10mmhg and the systolic rising upwards of 100mmhg!

We can breath, walk, talk, fart, and smile while we do it and do so without any exterior grasp of what is happening until the HR reaches roughly 180bpm, where the trembling begins (dont ask how I determined all the above :-). I have explored the assertion that others find it aids this, helps that, heals quickly, does this, does that, but I have not discovered this.

I read your entire post and find myself secretly hoping you can find answers that would enable me to accept this thing in my life. Until then it remains a party trick. Thank you for your interest.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: copperking on 12/06/2015 20:53:27
I found this forum discussion searching google online for an explanation for my current "ability" to control a goosebump phenomena at will and various other "abilities". Like others have mentioned, I am able to do this without external stimuli (E.G.-cold, scary thoughts, etc.). It is sort of like a concentration technique by stressing the muscles at the back of the neck. I can slow and speed up my heart rate as well but only in small increments (by 10 to 15 bpm in either direction.) and is strenuous to my body, my chest usually hurts the rest of the day afterward and have even gone as far as getting a cheap cuff type digital bpm monitor and borrowed a stethoscope to find out how much to an extent I can actually control it. I can do this by kind of "feeling" so to speak, my heart in my chest, and forcefully preventing the heart beat in my mind if I want to decrease bpm or imagining me forcefully squeezing to increase bpm. I am also able to sort of "imagine" what is about to happen before it happens but usually only a few seconds ahead of present time.( E.G. - knowing that the phone is about to ring, knowing someone is about to drop something, knowing what someone is about to say more or less word for word, etc.). It only occurs as a split second visualization or cryptic thoughts, more like a dejavu but the dejavu happens before the actual act, then I guess you would say it is an actual dejavu after it happens, but it is sort of reversed. Also it's hard to explain but I am able to sense my surroundings on a much higher level than normal. I can tell if there is someone hiding around the corner and am extremely accurate in this sense, like being able to tell if there is someone or a large animal on my property and I live on 65 acres of land. I am sort of afraid to go into detail about these things because every time I have tried to explain it to others they think I'm lying or worse, crazy. I've actually lost friends over this and had health professionals try to admit me into a mental health facility for evaluation over me simply trying to get some answers on this. I have actually lost friends because I would alienate them from me by calling out something that is going to happen before the action. I am very skeptical of religion and spiritual things and have a hard time tolerating things I cannot understand but am not closed minded. This may be the wrong place to describe these things but I just wanted to mention that this is the first time I have found out that others are in fact capable of controlling physically what happens to their bodies and that I am relieved that this is actually a little more common than I had originally thought. Is this some sort of self control that I have been able to hone in on since I was a child or is it more biological like described in previous posts? If it is biological, is there currently any studies in the US going on that I could possibly participate in to maybe get some more answers to this frustrating and sort of annoying itch that I have to understand this.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: RD on 13/06/2015 03:51:19
I am also able to sort of "imagine" what is about to happen before it happens but usually only a few seconds ahead of present time. ...  If it is biological, is there currently any studies in the US going on that I could possibly participate in to maybe get some more answers to this frustrating and sort of annoying itch that I have to understand this.

Neurological conditions like epilepsy can result in seizures which can cause a range of weird sensations and very-frequent déjà vu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_seizures#Presentation) , which some sufferers misinterpret as being able to predict the future , which no-one can, as the future hasn’t happened yet.

NB: seizures do not necessarily involve loss of consciousness , it is also possible to deliberately trigger seizures by thinking in a particular way.   

Quote from: wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_seizures
Focal seizures (also called partial seizures and localized seizures) are seizures which affect initially only one hemisphere of the brain. ... In partial seizures the seizure is generated in and affects just one part of the brain – the whole hemisphere or part of a lobe. Symptoms will vary according to where the seizure occurs. In the frontal lobe symptoms may include a wave-like sensation in the head; in the temporal lobe, a feeling of déjà vu; in the parietal lobe, a numbness or tingling; and in the occipital lobe, visual disturbance or hallucination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_seizures
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: beatyouonce on 07/08/2015 17:16:56
I've been able to control the goosebumps for 20 years now. The goosebumps are the begining of something more, now adays I can store "heat" in my chest and move it around slightly. Though my skin feels cool, inside I feel really hot. Its weird, I keep playing with this. Started with music doing it for me, then I learned how to close my eyes and bring the goosebumps on my own, then to make it feel "stronger" (some will know what i mean) trying to intensify the feeling and it does work.

Have yet to figure out what any of this does, I will try this winter to see if I can keep myself warm with this. Let me know if anyone knows what I'm talking about or is on this level.   Must be able to control and not just get it involuntarily from music and such (stuffs for lvl 1s HAHAHAHA)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pecos_Bill on 07/08/2015 17:32:49
I recently saw a BBC show in which a man in Northumberland swam in the sea to demonstrate the difference between the human body and that of a grey seal.

That has me wondering if one of your ancestors may have been seduced by a Selkie - as they are known to possess great powers of seduction.

I urge you to have your DNA examined to look for any suspicious trace of seal genes.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Brian_in_Olympia on 13/09/2015 17:24:40
WOW.... Ok.. Lets see here.
First of all I just wanted to say that I always figured this was something that everyone did to some degree.  I have been able to do this as long as I can remember, Its almost chilling to read everyone's posts and find they are using the exact same words to describe what they are doing and experiencing as I do.

I always thought of it like a pulse of energy going down my spine, starting somewhere at the base of my brain. I can do it multiple times and I don't think I have "ran out" of juice. and had to wait to get more. although each time I can do it, its only a short pulse not constant. Also I am able to start the "Pulse" from other places it seams, such as chest, and now that I think about it and while im typing this im playing around with the sensation it almost feels like it can be pushed out from anywhere if you focus hard enough. its just that the base of the brain appears to be the original spot this was discovered. I also seem to get this same pulse "goosebump" thing when I listen to a really amazing song and a part comes up iin the song that just just rips it outa me. Like a musical orgasm haha. I also have ringing in my ears and many many other symptoms other people have posted.

 Anyway I feel this is something that science needs to get more into and we are in a unique position on this forum to start this new "science" in motion. This thing needs a few things
A Name. What will we call this, I have read many other peoples posts about what other medical things It could be or acts like and personally I dont think this fits into any of them. some of the symptoms are very similar but not exact.

Anyway, I am just really happy I found other people who are having this same insane thing going on with them.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Brian_in_Olympia on 13/09/2015 17:38:49
I just posted but I forgot to add . It would be cool to see what we all have in common. Such as I have have a rare blood type. Maybe that has something to do with it. Or maybe we were all born in a month.. something. We just need to figure it out.
My blood type is AB Negative.
im left handed
born May 14 1982
I have ringing in my ears
Can control "pulse" without external stimuli and without being tired or laying down
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Becks76 on 24/09/2015 09:42:18
When the internet First came into being I tried to find out if anyone could do, as I have done since I was about 10 or even maybe younger, give themselves goosebumps.. I didn't at that time and only knew what it was when I went to a healer. Instinctively, I did my goosebumps and no sooner as I did then the healer said "oh, you can connect to your inner self." This actually ties in with what I believe the universe to be... A mass of connections which we can all access.. myself being part of the universe is just the doorway in which to transcend the physical world and touch the universal energy.
I just wrote about my experiences and had to delete.. they sound mad. So I will just leave you with what I know it to be.. and hopefully it willmake sense to you.


Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: society on 28/10/2015 17:36:49
I've been able to do this at will for over 20 years and still can.  I used to get the same reaction after a particularly good bong hit.  I think it has something to do with breathing/brain states.  Its super relaxing basically when i meditate I cultivate the feeling for as long as possible and escalate it on inhalation and try to retain it on exhalation.

Have their been any brain wave/state studies on this phenomena? Like the whole Beta, Alpha, Theta, and Delta thing. I'm sure it changes, might make for an interesting thesis.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gffhffxchhb Hhfgcgiog on 15/11/2015 21:24:58
I learned how to send this energy wave from back of my head, to my feet just by closing my eyes and breathing today, but I haven't figured out how to control it.  Can anyone guide me?  I want to develop this energy to a higher level like dynamo jack. Im 29 years old and a male...I read qi gong has 5 levels, and the last level you can heal people with this power.  It sounds crazy, but I believe that we can unlock powers if enough training is done. Anyone that has practiced this for years let me know..I feel like the air I breath turns into electricity and flows all the way down my body
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gffhffxchhb Hhfgcgiog on 15/11/2015 21:26:56
Has anyone done this in water?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: society on 15/11/2015 22:06:20
I learned how to send this energy wave from back of my head, to my feet just by closing my eyes and breathing today, but I haven't figured out how to control it.  Can anyone guide me?  I want to develop this energy to a higher level like dynamo jack. Im 29 years old and a male...I read qi gong has 5 levels, and the last level you can heal people with this power.  It sounds crazy, but I believe that we can unlock powers if enough training is done. Anyone that has practiced this for years let me know..I feel like the air I breath turns into electricity and flows all the way down my body

Havent tried it in water, (am going to now).  Interested in qi gong, do you know of  any particularly good websites?  Thanks
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gffhffxchhb Hhfgcgiog on 15/11/2015 23:48:11
I want to do some research but that is very secret stuff.  I know there are 5 levels and the 5th level is very very hard and can take a life time to reach.. Every one is different and everyone has a different level of power.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: society on 16/11/2015 00:09:21
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Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Gizem on 17/11/2015 20:49:56
Has anyone done this in water?

I can do it in the shower. I also get the same goosebumps effect that we produce if I apply the hot water with pressure from the shower head to the lower back of my head. You guys should try it.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Invictus on 28/11/2015 02:40:46
I find it amazing that so many people experience what I experience, and I'm glad I'm not alone. I am a long time lurker and I found this forum a few years back, but only decided to post now for some reason.

I'm pretty sure I've always been able to do it, but I didn't really take notice of it until I was in primary school. Back then I had to flex a muscle to generate the tingly/energy-like feeling, but as I got older, that need went away. I forgot about it for a couple of years, but when I re-discovered the ability, I found that I didn't need to flex any kind of muscle (to my knowledge) for the ability to activate.

Like many of you, when I activate it, it starts towards the back of my head (if it's a powerful episode I can feel it all the way up to my cheeks/face), goes down my spine, into my arms and legs, and stops at the feet. At first, I could only do a full body "wave" sitting or standing still, but as I've gotten older (I'm 18 now), I can do it exclusively in my head, legs, while walking, laying down, and for a little while, I could isolate it to one half of my body. I can also do it while holding my breath, but it is considerably harder to do. It is also way easier to do it in colder weather, but I can do it in hot weather. I think I have a set limit on how many times I can generate the waves, but it is a long time. I need to constantly be doing it for HOURS before I need to "recharge". Since I don't do that very often, I'm not sure what my recharge time would be.

I'm not sure about any physical effects other than goosebumps, but it may have an aspect in slightly increasing my speed. I run varsity track for my high school, and I've gotten into the habit of activating one wave while I'm in the blocks. Now I haven't actually tested this scientifically, but every time I've done it, I've beaten my previous record for my race. One time, I got a little greedy and did like 15 waves while I was in the blocks. I had a horrible race that day.

It is mostly voluntary, I think. Whenever I hear a powerful or epic piece of music, read or hear a very profound quote (it helps if there is a lot of emotion behind it), or see a stunning image, the waves are several times more powerful than had I just randomly done it, and I can't tell if they activated on their own, or I did. They last longer too. A normal wave generates and dissipates in about 5 seconds, give or take. When amplified by an external stimulus, they can last for as long as 30 seconds.

I would like more answers about this phenomena. Is it supernatural? Is it chi/ki based? Can we hone it and make it more powerful? Are aspects of it unique to everyone who has it? Is it rare? Common? Did we all inherit some gene? Are we (minor) freaks of nature? Or are we all just over hyping it, and it is really just us releasing adrenaline into our system. Which would be pretty unusual in and of itself, as we shouldn't be able to do that either, but whatever. I'll still periodically check up on the forum for progress. If anyone would like to talk about it, feel free to message me about it. If any of you are on reddit, maybe we could create a subreddit based around this phenomena as a secondary avenue of discussion.

Peace
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: cdod5 on 30/11/2015 17:46:43
Hi everyone,

I've been reading all these comments for a short time. I have been able to control my goosebumps with ease for a long time with the electrical current running from the back of my skull like many others and, potentially due to that, have a strong tolerance to temperature changes, especially the cold. I hadn't really thought to check as i always assumed that everyone could do it. Feels phenomenal though :) I have been reading about a lot of people who have the ability to increase and decrease their pulse at will. I think that i have a bit of this but would like any advice on how to pursue this. Really interested in the blood flow control and heart rate.
Thanks
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: 12L on 11/12/2015 00:18:45
I have been able to create the pulsing-like sensation in the back of my head but I used to have to think about the shuddering things like a cat on a blackboard to cause it. Now I would like to consciously create goosebumps but so far I have been unable to create them even with chilling thoughts. I live in Florida so I have no strong memories of goosebumps.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: calebhk98 on 27/12/2015 18:31:30

I kinda have that ability. I can control my body temperature and can make certain parts of my body grow warmer(without any physical movement), even under water. I can also handle temperatures pretty well, like picking up a glass pan out of 350° oven without being burned. I can not control goosebumps, but never tried. I do not know how, but I wish I knew, I kinda just wish to warm up by concentrating and I can... I am only 17 so I do not know that much about biology, but I am pretty sure that this is not normal[:)]. I can also not get cold if I wish too, like going outside in 20° weather or colder in shorts and short sleeves. I just found out I could do this last year when a friend was helping me dig a hole in the middle of the night and while we were resting I noticed his hand start becoming more visible. He then asked me if I noticed anything about his hand and then he was able to do his index finger.  I have heard him say some weird things and finally decide to look up to see if anyone else had similar abilities as mine. I have also been able to burn people on the face and they said it felt similar to a rug-burn. I consider myself scientific, so I would like to explain this scientifically instead of mystically. I can also seem to control my breathing and heart rate, though I have not tested it on any machines. I also seem to be able to warm up my hand if I concentrate on another living thing that is close by, like a moth. I feel like I can sense other people's minds, but I think that is just me imagining things. If anyone can explain how I can do this, that would be wonderful. I have looked at other posts and found some terms I have not heard of like Yogis, charkras, and others that I am going to look up. I also heard people say that this is in a primal part of your brain and you should not be able to control it. But like I already said, any help would be greatly helpful.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Falchion on 02/01/2016 18:48:47
wow, I thought I was the only one... :O

I think I started "practicing" this goosebumps around my 7th grade from listening to some religious music(I'm 35 y/o now)... loved the sensation and tried to gain ways to control it by listening to those songs over and over...
wondering if I could control it at will... but I couldn't do it...

until I started having lots of sleep paralysis(which always accompanied by goosebumps and lots of fear.. and this loud continuing humming sound).

got addicted to sleep paralysis, found a way to get into sleep paralysis by focusing on certain wave sound(the fear is always there, regardless how many times I've done it).. and also found a way to get out of paralysis by shaking my lower jaws(hated it cause it makes the goosebumps goes away).
Took me a longggg time to figure this "how-to" cause the whole process is like a dream... and at first I can only do it if I'm really2 tired when I hit the bed.

not sure starting when(before grade 11th), I can control goosebumps at will, half body, left/right hand only(plus part of head), or just shoulder and head... truly felt like super saiyan :D
as for controlling pulse, I never tried to make it faster... I just like to slow it down asap after workout(never thought it's related).
I'm still not satisfied tho.... when I do the goosebumps, it doesn't go as strong as when I'm in sleep paralysis situation.

I wonder if I can reach that stronger phase while I'm not in sleeping position... only managed to "crawl" my hand by dragging it with fingers inch by inch during those paralysis :/
I also had 4 or 5 cases of eye migraine during my life... so annoying... and sometimes I woke up with a very sensitive hearing... not sure if this is related.

anyway, I just read what wnxunix said about 2-3 hours of sleep and feeling refreshed.... I wonder if my screwed up sleeping habits is caused by this too..... http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=26291
I hope somebody research this and find out where's our energy coming from, really....
I know for sure this is not caused by adrenaline, cause I can bring adrenaline to make my palm "slippery/sticky" before I do push up or hard work out.

nice to know there's post about this, does anyone else connect goosebumps with sleep paralysis like me?
this feel like a support group, hahahaha
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Luiz Carlos de Jesus Silv on 03/01/2016 20:25:46
Cool! I thought it was the only one doing it.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: QuantumWreck on 10/01/2016 16:36:05
Hello EveryBody,

Is there anyone, that tried to trigger goosebump or shiver without breathing?

Or more precisely, just after exhaling and holding your breath for 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gbc89 on 20/01/2016 20:27:28
There are new machines at my gym that shows a graph of your heart rate, so I figured I'd play a little with goosebumps since my personal hypothesis is that it's some sort of adrenaline release control.
At a steady intensity I was able to raise my heart rate within a few seconds by 12 bpm by doing my goosebump control thing, dropping back within a few seconds to the heartrate I had before I did it.
I did that 3 times and the graph bumps were really similar.

So I conclude that for me it's some sort of adrenaline rush control.
Maybe it's different for others here, no idea, but I can also do localized goosebumps so I have that in common too with a few.
Especially one half body goosebumps is a really funny experience. :)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: _TheQuantumWreck_ on 26/01/2016 18:22:55
Hello,

I would like to share a little trick,

to test peoples that can trigger goosebump/shiver.

For fun and curiosity.


Before doing it, just be sure to be well hydrate.

If not, drink 1 or 2 glass of water and wait a bit.


Take a piece of aluminum foil and cut a little square.

Then, curve it in a way it can stand by itself.


So, let's start the shiver and bring that feeling to the hand.

More precisely to the index finger or middle finger.


Put your finger around  2 or 3 millimeters from the aluminum foil.

When a steam appears on the foil (something after 2s*),

stick it and drag it with your fingertip.


Let me know if you succeed.


*2 or 3s, could be less or more,

depends on the temp of your hand,

the ambient and how hydrate you are.

It's related to the increase of the hand temp.

So it could be done with other methods like running for a while.

But it is fun and interesting doing it in that way.


enjoy!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: JDoesScience on 09/03/2016 04:09:27
Hi everyone,

After a few months of back and forth, I have university ethical approval to study this. If you'd like to help, and you can spontaneously control your own goosebumps, we've got a survey going. If you have time for it, we'd LOVE to record your experiences. I've been looking elsewhere for people who can do this - and you're super rare!

To get access to it, just message me through here - it'll go to my email and I'll send it to you.

After we can describe this phenomenon properly, we might get to study it in more detail. It's fascinating!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: _TheQuantumWreck_ on 09/03/2016 07:17:42
Hi everyone,

After a few months of back and forth, I have university ethical approval to study this. If you'd like to help, and you can spontaneously control your own goosebumps, we've got a survey going. If you have time for it, we'd LOVE to record your experiences. I've been looking elsewhere for people who can do this - and you're super rare!

To get access to it, just message me through here - it'll go to my email and I'll send it to you.

After we can describe this phenomenon properly, we might get to study it in more detail. It's fascinating!

Sounds interesting.
I wonder if there is any relationship with synesthesia.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: plumdragon on 18/03/2016 17:26:08
*waves hand*

Me, too! 35yo female, mother of three, and I have slight synesthesia. I've been able to control my goosebumps or tingles or whatever since as long as I can remember. Easier in some circumstances, used to have to 'use a muscle' and don't anymore. I'd LOVE to know what causes it. I've often thought about finding a willing neuroscience person to scan me while I'm doing it. Definitely helps with pain, and having done it during labor... helped tremendously. I always thought I was alone, and search google every few years to see what pops up. This time it found this forum and I'm ecstatic!!
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: FlatLiquid on 26/04/2016 18:50:23
Hello Everyone,
I am glad to become a part of this thread, and a big thanks to the one who started it. I have been able to give myself the goosebumps as far back as I can remember. Like most of us here, I can start it, pulse it, surge it, and maintain it, without the use of hands, music, and/or imagination. I'm male, 37. I could do it before, but I really started paying attention to it when I came off of opiate medications. The ability happened so often and with so much force that I was compelled to see if there was anyone else out there who could do it too. I am off the meds now and can still do it with amazing control. I'm looking to coordinate with others to find better uses for it since it seems to be an excellent pain reliever, mood stimulant, and adrenaline distributor when controlled properly.

I'm wondering if anyone here has Visual Snow (old television like static mixed throughout everything in the visual spectrum). If so please personal message me.

There are some things I'd like to share that seem to enhance my ability to control the goosebumps, or filling the reservoir so to speak.
- Eating and/or juicing fresh fruits and vegetables every day and drinking Filtered water
- Stretching and exercise
- Minimizing chemical intake/toxins, medications, junk food, etc.
- Getting sunlight whenever possible
- Getting good sleep
- Water with squeezed Lemon no sugar (try it on an empty stomach, or at least a not full stomach)
- Chi related exercises
- Breathing techniques and breathing fresh air
- Experiencing nature

Things that seem to stop the effect, or nullify it:
- Alcohol (although just 1 beer seemed to enhance it at times, any more than that and the effect was gone)
- A full stomach

If anyone here is looking to learn more in depth from my experiences, please personal message me. Thanks, Matt
 
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: _TheQuantumWreck_ on 26/04/2016 19:52:17
This stuff for me seams to be intenser when moving my awareness clockwise or counter clockwise around my body.

Additionally to the goosebump/shiver feeling, it triggers a green feeling. Like i can physically feel/touch the color.

So this is why i thought about synesthesia but it is more a result and not the root cause i guess.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jamie Horton on 16/09/2016 19:03:51
I just discovered this website, and I have been able to do this since about the time I was in puberty, I am now 28. Today reading this post has been the longest that I have ever experienced this phenomenon, approximately 20mins now and still going. It did stop occasionally, but only for about 30 secs - 1min. Coincidentally, I have been researching about the third eye(pineal gland) and I decided to start de-calcifying mine. I have been drinking fluoride free water for a couple of months now, and I have been working on eating less food and eating more healthy foods. Over the past two days I have really only eaten cellary and peanuts. I feel like being on an empty stomach or at least not being full has something to do with it, like maybe its because there are less toxins in our body? Another note, my wrists hurt me almost 24/7, carpel tunel? tinititus?, and since I've been having this feeling for this whole time they haven't bothered me a bit.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: kanchana31 on 26/10/2016 15:39:20
Hi everyone,

After a few months of back and forth, I have university ethical approval to study this. If you'd like to help, and you can spontaneously control your own goosebumps, we've got a survey going. If you have time for it, we'd LOVE to record your experiences. I've been looking elsewhere for people who can do this - and you're super rare!

To get access to it, just message me through here - it'll go to my email and I'll send it to you.

After we can describe this phenomenon properly, we might get to study it in more detail. It's fascinating!

Hello, I m from India and I have this ability since young age. I was wondering what it was for a long time, I was 12 when I started to notice it. It seemed weird to my parents when I told them bout this. I m 23 now and still having this ability. but now I can continously control gooseflesh for more than an hour. Recently I tried to control ma pulse and got succeeded. when I start controlling gooseflesh, a wave tingles down my spine and sometimes on ma both shoulders. The wave gets stronger in time when I continously control it and I feel drained after that. Someone I know said me that it is a kind of transmitting the energy so I even tried making energy ball between ma hands and succeeded at the first attempt in a shorter time. I wanna know more but this. Can you help me?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: mrsmith2211 on 27/10/2016 23:56:29
My basic understanding, goosebumps, or piloerections are a response to cold, bristling of the hair handed down that used to provide for better insulation against the cold. You are somehow tricking your body into thinking it is cold. I could play with that, but in the past after many years of Tae Kwan Do Yoga etc. was able to control my heart rate, get it own to 45 beats per minute, drop blood pressure 20 points or so, and tolerate pain, like at the dentis getting a root planing after the carbocaine without ephenepheron had worn off, as I seem to be allergic to Novocaine, cheeks swell, severe tooth pain for 2 or 3 days. I have even had a crown done without novacaine, but never anything for fillings.

I could work on goosebumps, but do not like feeling cold, do you feel cold when you do this?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: KundaliniRZA on 28/11/2016 01:49:47
I've also experienced it since 2013 now and have learned a TON of information on it like... Where does it come from, why We can use it, whats is the use of that energy and how to amplify it.

The most important part of it is that it has 5 types of different ways to be summoned in our body according to our  5 elements!
I made a video on YouTube on it and have 487 views on it as of today.
(Im not trying to advertise but I kinda have to.
I want people like you who wanna know more about this special gift that we all have to learn about it and to especially master it for your own good. You don't have to believe it it's just what i've learned and tested after 3 years of usage.
It brought me life changing gifts like astral projection, real time projections and access to our third-eye chakras psychic properties!

My channel is KundaliniRZA and the video where i talk about it all is named Kundalini Awakening 3 Easy steps+Propaganda vs Real Kundalini ... )

Subscribe if you like it. It'll definitely motivate me to make more informational videos about this subject.
[I had another youtube with about 160 subscriber and over hundred of views on my every videos but my ex deleted my channel! Now I have to start back but i've been stuck to 20 subscribers for a year now :'( I could really use a little bit of support!]
Sorry for making this long. Have a good life!
-John
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: gpm on 05/02/2017 05:26:18
Had this "skill" since probably about 6 or 7 years old. Never thought about it much. I used to associate it with the color blue.

I can handle weather extremes pretty easily, but I have a time limit of about 30 minutes to an hour. (Warm clothes/hot weather, flipflops/cold weather)
Control of tensor tympani muscle, and general control over most facial muscles. I can put my uvula on my tongue (it's uncomfortable, but I can do it).

I have pretty good control of it, and can make it sprout from my stomach, chest, and lower back-- in addition to it starting from the neck.
I can also isolate the goosebumps to either arm.

Very interested in learning more about this. Posting to the thread to share and follow.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: nelumbo oculii on 06/02/2017 20:43:58
Having studied the workings of the body under the use of the tool, Hallucinogens, and, having exercised such tasks as making goosebumps, making arm, leg, head hair stand up at will, I would say the answer to the question is a definitive YES..
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Park808 on 11/02/2017 12:59:12
I am not sure about all....but I can just quickly focus on my spine and I can get instant chills. There is not much concentration involved. I feel like energy shooting out of my body throughout. I also feel the sense of being able to move that energy. Not sure what to think of it. I'm not even spiritual.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Debate the Bait on 26/04/2017 04:34:34
Looks like I stumbled on this conversation a little late but I have found it in searching for answers as yourself.
I too can bring about this rush of endorphins at will. I have been doing it for as long as I can remember but I don't remember easily lol.
It also takes some concentration depending on my emotions at the time. But if my emotions are idle or neutral if I may then all it takes is the simple thought and an exhale  and it begins. It starts in my head, heads down to the torso, extends to the arms and hands, and heads down the legs and feet. It can linger in the feet longer than other extremities for some reason but I be leave I have poor circulation in feet to begin with. And it's in breaths so after I exhale and the rush begins I simply inhale again and he process starts over, sometimes with more of a kick sometimes less. And this is probably due to only having so much feel good sauce in you at one time until it is replenished.   haven't kept record of how much at each attempt simply because I thought that it was normal and why would anyone want to keep tract with such a basic reaction. 
Never really thought to ask someone if they had the same control over it until I got married and my wife thought I was talking crazy lol. That spawned the second question, who else can? There are no real numbers out there of us I be leave but if I were to guess then it has to be within the 1 to 2 percentile maybe lower. And if what I'm reading is correct then we are not ment to have this amount of control of our bodies. But here we are all evolved, or simply a rare slip up in our genetics.
Next question is this good or bad? Well let's start with bad. The only thing I can think of is being so used to doing it on command might trump your bodies natural instinct to do it on its own when it needs to. So far that's not a problem because that same rush takes place when it needs to but it doesn't mix well with the extra fear that is normally accompanied with the fight or flight reflex.
So can it be good? I suppose if you enjoy that sense of relief.  Or just having the option to begin with. I believe there's more at play with this subject than the simple feel good effect it beings. I think it needs to be studied a little bit more or at all really but people that are much smarter than I. Because it seems the questions and theories that run through my head when im trying to wrap my brain around it only lead to very bold conclusions about reality in general.

I really would like to know more about other people who have this ability on a personal standing. I want to see how different and alike we are in thought process and decision making. Because if my crazy theory is correct then we shouldn't be far off at all in these aspects.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: kOa_Master on 26/04/2017 16:13:55
Wow, finally - it seems like all the people who can do this gather here and only here. Because so far, I couldn't find anything anywhere else (especially not in the german speaking places).
So it is not that uncommon (well, at least about 20 people answered).

I too can control goosebumps, do it whenever I want. It doesn't matter how my emotions are, whether I breathe or not, I can do it underwater and in the aiplane, whatever. Jolyon desribed it perfectly in posting number 19.
What I just realised was, that the "other things" he talks about I can do too but only to a limited degree. Controling pulse and "increase blood pressure" or send blood to my limbs does also work but it requires quite a bit of concentration. Never in my 30 years of living I thought this was anything special/to notice but I'll try to get "better" at it. The goosebumps-thing is around ever since I can think about, it just took a while until I realised its unusual (about primary school when guys were taking about special things to give each other goosebumps and I was like "wtf? what for? just do it the normal way?".

The only thing I know from myself is, that the effect wears off if I do it severel times within short time like every 5-10 seconds. It gets harder to do it and it stays shorter. And I cannot do it on just one part of my body.

I'd also love to know any results by the research off _TheQuantumWreck_
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Debate the Bait on 26/04/2017 19:05:30
 So in my daily quest for answers I do indeed ask random strangers the question if they know anyone or ever herd of anyone possessing an higher state of control over ones physical body. And not to long ago I was answered yes. I'm currently in the home of an hospice nurse repairing her cable services. She has enlighten me that she knows a person who can at will bring about there own seizures.
I wouldn't qualifie this as the same subject but it is still on the topic of general exsive control of one's physical state.
I hope I am not the only one that can ponder the possibilities of having such control over nature or reality.
The more I put together all the peices in my search for why and how it is leading to a very bold conclusion as I stated earlier.
And if you want the concept of belief in words then I shall share it with you.

I believe without doubt we (and everyone) possess the ability to change reality to how we want to perceive it.

That statement is so wildly interpreted by the masses that it appears vague.

But simply choosing not to beleave it is true is also evidence that you are deciding this is not your reality.

And at the same time most of us know this is true but our underline greedy intents blind us.

Example could be a very secsessful artist who knows exactly the right formula to deliver an extreme emotion to the broad public but gets caught up in the lifestyle change of being rich and famous.

As long as we can understand this to be true I believe it can have major implications on our global community.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Donnah on 23/05/2017 17:19:38
I just discovered this website, and I have been able to do this since about the time I was in puberty, I am now 28. Today reading this post has been the longest that I have ever experienced this phenomenon, approximately 20mins now and still going. It did stop occasionally, but only for about 30 secs - 1min. Coincidentally, I have been researching about the third eye(pineal gland) and I decided to start de-calcifying mine. I have been drinking fluoride free water for a couple of months now, and I have been working on eating less food and eating more healthy foods. Over the past two days I have really only eaten cellary and peanuts. I feel like being on an empty stomach or at least not being full has something to do with it, like maybe its because there are less toxins in our body? Another note, my wrists hurt me almost 24/7, carpel tunel? tinititus?, and since I've been having this feeling for this whole time they haven't bothered me a bit.

Hi Jamie,

If you are interested in getting the fluoride out check the links on this page.  https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/fibromyalgia.html

Best wishes,
Donnah
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Solaikannan on 28/05/2017 10:03:51
Hey brother,
 Iam from chennai,india..i too have this same thing of controllimg goose bumps..its sort instant electrification travelling from my brain to all part of body resulting in gose bump..i too suffer from sleeping difficulties..i seem to be cool to potray this thing before my friends..but is there any chance neurlogical damage done to my brain by often goose bumps..i too suffer same effects eye dilation..skin pale..blood flush..beneath skin..thank you for helping
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: mjd93092 on 04/10/2017 05:01:16
I can also control my goosebumps, I taught myself how and I pyschologically know how I am doing it.

A little background about me, from a very young age I watched people interact and tried to understand why people did certain things and what they were thinking. I became adequate at generally understanding why people did things and why they reacted in the way they did. I used this to help figure out why I did everything, from liking one thing versus another to knowing why I liked people etc. Fast forward to college I broke myself down mentally and re-evaluated why I did everything and what I hoped to achieve in this world...

As I started to figure out these questions I noticed that when I fully agreed on something I would get goosebumps through my whole body. I can get them in patches but that means that I strongly agree but not completely. I kept using this as indicators to dig deep within myself and really understand if I wanted or liked something. The more deeply I felt about the statement I made to myself the stronger I can send goosebumps. I do feel like it wears me out, like part of the strength of goosebumps is reliant on dopamine or something like that. Maybe it is just a mental trick I have taught myself but the fact is that when I do really believe in something I can send goosebumps through my body. However I still choose if I want to produce them on a thought.

For example if I really like doing a task and I mentally talk to myself and am like I really like doing this job. I can choose to send them or not. It isn't automatic but I can send them or attempt to, to see if my body agrees. I look at as a mental stand point that if all the parts of my brain really agree on this I can send the goosebumps but if it doesn't I will get a weaker version or none at all. Which I usually dig deeper to figure out what part of it I do agree with.

Not sure if this thread is still active but I would love to understand more about what I taught myself to do and whether I deduced what is generally going on.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Pjazerlazer on 09/10/2017 16:09:31
I'd like to welcome you all to the world of the shaman and pseudoscience. The abilities of telepathy and other super human strengths all stem from here just keep practicing via what you may consider meditation.  :)
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Jeroen90 on 25/01/2018 08:00:12
Hi everyone,

I'm happy to read all of your stories. I can control my goosebumps by will too as long as I can remember. I'm able to control my body in low temperatures. If I don't focus i'm feeling cold as well and my muscles are getting tensed, then I relax my body and focus on my body heat and don't allow cold coming through my skin and it works.

The way I control the goosebumps is coming from inside my chest. It feels like concentrating energy in that spot, gently squeeze this energy and as I feel the intensity increase I release it and a wave of goosebumps is flowing through my whole body. I haven't been able to hold this though. in a couple of seconds the wave is gone.

Not so long ago I was having Shingles starting at the back of my spine and had a burned feeling on my skin. I could feel where the nerves were affected in the spine and the patch of 3 cm (burned feeling) skin was going from my spine in a line over the side of my body to my abdomen and stopped in the middle. The interesting thing was when I did the goosebumps on command I felt the wave going through that patch which was affected by the Shingles. As if a small door opened in my spine, where the Shingles were busy doing their thing.

I have a feeling that this wave through your body also can tell you where something is wrong, because before I really felt the burned skin, I could feel something in that part of my spine.

One more interesting story..
If I tell people something which is very important for me and if I have the feeling they're really getting what I'm trying to say I sometimes have spontaneous goosebumps very intense all over my body.
This happened with a glass wine in my hands and I was holding the glass like all my fingers were touching the top of the glass, with my hand palm facing inside the glass. Then I got this intense goosebumps feeling while telling some friends something important and on that moment the glass didn't just break, but somehow popped. I had glass in my hand because of it and everyone was looking very surprised, and me too. I don't know if I didn't notice squeezing to hard because of what I was telling, but honestly it did't feel that way, also due to the way it popped. I'm just curious if this goosebumps feeling can release some sort of energy even outside the body.

I'm very interested to hear more about this topic and I'm keen to talk to anyone about it if they want to know more for research.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: wolfekeeper on 30/01/2018 03:57:47
FWIW goosebumps are believed to be an evolutionary hold-over from when we had fur. If you get goosebumps your fur stands on end and you look bigger. I believe chimps fur stands on end when they are going to fight. And so it's going to be triggered by emotion, although not necessarily directly by conscious control, it could well be hormone related or something. Clearly we still have goosebumps, so that system still works. So it's plausible some or all of us still have the ability to mentally trigger goosebumps for evolutionary reasons related to fight or flight.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ahiru on 13/02/2018 20:49:31
Hello,
It's being a lot of time I found this forum and I wanted to share my findings as I found the right timing to do so.
I'm from Brazil and I can also control my goosebumps. I can do this since childhood and I'll try to answer some of the questions I found on this topic.

It flows across my whole body at will and it mostly comes from my neck.

I was also considering if this kind of feeling is not related to ki... I will explain.
Everything I will say about "energy" below is directly related to controlled goosebumps.

As I use this technique, I can (really) motivate any part of body to do "better".
Like, I can make myself run faster and longer by transfering my energy from my core (chest and neck) to my legs.
I can motivate my brain to work sharply and to negate headache by concentrating my energy in my brain.
I can increase a little bit of my stamina for some physical tasks, like carrying a heavy object around for a long time.
I can transfer and concentrate my energy on my "special area" to completely remove the willingness to go to the bathroom (this one is really useful at long trips).

I realized I don't "power up" (like in those animes), but I just motivate some features of my body to keep working faster, better and harder.

As I feel warmth through my body, I don't think it creates some sort of heat, as I think it probably has the same effect as we breath off our heat from our mouth to see the white smoke (we love to do this in winter) and we feel a bit of cold in our chest (because we release our precious heat to the air). So, my guess is that we are actually releasing heat among our skin (not sure about that).

Answering to some other question here, I tested and I can do goosebumps completely underwater.

Have any of you guys considered on trying to check if it's visible through schlieren imaging?

Also something weird happened to me a time ago. This is a challenge for you guys.
I screamed really, really loud once and I suddenly felt... flames on my both hands. It wasn't visible, but if it was, it would feel just like Liz, in the end of the Hellboy movie, where she makes a blue flame on her hands after being slapped by a guy.
It... didn't feel like coming from goosebumps though. It was... something else. Maybe if... somebody could reproduce that. You just need to concentrate your inner energy and scream really loud, concentrate a whole lot of goosebumps from your whole body to your hands. After a while, you "might", "maybe" feel flames that aren't hot, but are like silk flowing from your hands violently like a torch. But I'm not really sure if it comes from the same trigger as goosebumps. It could be... something else.

I'd love to answer any other questions you guys have about this ability.

Cheers
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: JDoesScience on 02/03/2018 03:20:41
Hi everyone,

I logged in a year or more ago, said I was going to study this (I'm a scientist), then disappeared.

However, this doesn't mean the study disappeared. Presenting the very first scientific study ((well, the first non-case-study)) on what we've come to call voluntarily generated piloerection, or VGP.

(It's attached here. I can't link it.)

I probably have to thank members of this forum in particular, some of whom almost certainly participated in the study because it was linked here. *Thank you* if you participated. It wouldn't have been possible without you.

Next steps? Try to understand it better. I need to do an actual laboratory study, in other words, which this first survey didn't allow us to do. It won't be easy to find participants, but I'll see what I can do.

Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ahiru on 02/03/2018 04:07:18
I wanted to thank you about the study! From now on, our VGP can be better understanded.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: DavidMartian on 20/03/2018 15:00:15
I think i got it.... anyways   theres this phenomena i discovered regarding those goosebumps (i can do them myself too)


it doesnt work (you have less/minimum flow of those waves youre sending) if youre next to a person, but it does again work again if youre 10 feet away from the person..  can you guys check it please and post the results?


do your goosebumps -> it works.       do them again next to a person/ showing it to them it doesnt work anymore, but it does if youre further away from them (they still can see the hair standing up)

thank you and have a great day
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Ahiru on 22/03/2018 02:07:20
In my case, I can do it next to the person, even holding hands. It also appears that cats can feel my goosebumps (as always when I do and they're chiling with me, their heads move a bit at the exact moment I do the goosebumps at the region they are next to me, like they're noticing something).
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: JerzyMadhouse on 24/06/2018 09:52:53
I can do the same thing - I was just asking my friend china if she can do it and she looked at me crazy lol you have to focus your inner energy behind your upper neck untill you feel a stimulus that leads to goosebumps down your body
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: JerzyMadhouse on 24/06/2018 09:53:50
I can do the same thing - I was just asking my friend china if she can do it and she looked at me crazy lol you have to focus your inner energy behind your upper neck untill you feel a stimulus that leads to goosebumps down your body
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: thinkaroo on 26/06/2018 04:38:22
Fascinating. One other thing to add is that you do get some ability to influence your parasympathetic nervous system when you breathe deeply as you are stimulating your vagus nerve in the process.
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Goofysillyme on 24/08/2018 12:58:43
Is there anyone out there still viewing this topic? I am 34 and just realized I can generate the same effect from the back of my neck. I'm wondering what are some of the worst side effects everyone has had while/after doing this?
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: kOa_Master on 01/12/2018 13:55:01
Hi everyone,

I logged in a year or more ago, said I was going to study this (I'm a scientist), then disappeared.

However, this doesn't mean the study disappeared. Presenting the very first scientific study ((well, the first non-case-study)) on what we've come to call voluntarily generated piloerection, or VGP.

(It's attached here. I can't link it.)

I probably have to thank members of this forum in particular, some of whom almost certainly participated in the study because it was linked here. *Thank you* if you participated. It wouldn't have been possible without you.

Next steps? Try to understand it better. I need to do an actual laboratory study, in other words, which this first survey didn't allow us to do. It won't be easy to find participants, but I'll see what I can do.


Hi James,

Thank you so much for your studies, very interesting insight! Have you considered already a follow up study now?
Would love to gather more information here.

Master
Title: Re: Is it common or useful to be able to control goosebumps, and pulse, at will?
Post by: Dilxe on 02/03/2019 01:59:53
I know I'm posting rather late on this thread, but I only found it recently unfortunately.
I had already posted about this on Reddit meanwhile trying to look for answers, but all I got was spiritually oriented, this might be the first place where I've actually seen scientific hypothesis and studies and I can't believe didn't find it before.
Anyway, I registered just for this and I want to share my experience just in case someone else finds this in the future.

I'm a 25 years old male and unlike what seems to be the case with the majority that posted here, I did not discover that I can control my body in weird ways when listening to music/goosebumps nor can I control my goosebumps at will.
At max I can suppress/lower them with my mind or "ability", if you will, when they do show up through normal means.
It's especially noticeable when it happens on cold days since thanks to the cold the goosebumps persist, getting back up when I stop focusing.

About how it started for me, in my case, as dumb as it might sound, it started when I was about 16 years old and when I was watching dbz.
During an episode, in which one of the main characters was teaching another character about "ki", I felt something weird happening in my stomach area, kind of a burning sensation that didn't hurt, and after it happened I could make it happen again at will.

As such at the time I though I was developing some kind of superpower, due to the it first happening when it did, so I started experimenting with it, first by trying to feel it on my hands, and it worked, and then by doing the same all over the body by moving that sensation around.

Now, what I eventually learned to do was:

Moving on...

To do what I do I don't need any particular emotional state, so I have no need to think sad or happy thoughts, I just need to focus.

Haven't meditated much either. Did it a couple of times to see if it would increase the "sensation", but it didn't so I stopped. Through regular use however, not only did the "sensation" get stronger but I managed to learn how to do all the things I posted above.

There's a thing that helps me enhance this too. It involves imagining/focusing on characters with abilities and try to translate their abilities to real life, to my own.
So, as an example, one of those I mentioned above, when I exercise and my muscles start to get fatigued and begin to ache, all I need to do is imagine a character that controls electricity through their bodies and use that to strengthen the  "sensation" of my "ability", to suppress the pain and fatigue so I can keep exercising for even longer.
For some reason that works for all the above.

I guess it can be likened to how some users here said that "using this energy felt like the powering up the characters in dbz do". Which I also experienced and obviously agree with. It did start with dbz for me after all...

What this feels like, to me is as if I was tensing muscles that I can't use through normal means, physically.
What might evoke this sensation, or something like it, is to give an instruction to X part of the body to move, but not moving it, just keeping it at the point between moving and not moving.

I guess I should also mention that if I use this too much I end up felling hungry and if I continue past that point my stomach starts to ache.

Finally, I have tried to use this "ability" in front of a mirror like the user "theskybeblue" suggested and, like it was said that it would happen, the pupils got dilated; though in my case they got immediately dilated as soon as I used it and they remained dilated for as long as I kept the "ability/sensation" active.

As a side note, I have also experienced déjà vu/rêvé plenty of times too, the first time being when I was still in elementary school. Don't know if it's relevant, but there you go.

P.S.: I'm well aware of how crazy this sounds. Especially since I'm not religious at all and I don't know what to attribute this to, I'm at a complete loss; though after reading some of the posts here I line with the hypothesis that this is us somehow controlling part of the autonomic nervous system.
Also, I'm posting here to give more insight about what else can be done with this.
That said, sorry for the massive text wall.