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Title: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 01/06/2016 05:01:09
If the sun appeared 10,000 kilometers miles away from Earth for just 1 second and then returned to its normal position, what would happen?

Alan
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: evan_au on 01/06/2016 10:45:18
In Physics, the position of the Earth is usually approximated as the location of its center of gravity. Since the Earth has a radius of around 6,370 km, that places the Sun very close to the surface of the Earth.

Similarly, the position of the Sun is approximated as the location of its center of gravity. Since the radius of the Sun is about 695,700km, that would place the Earth pretty close to the core of the Sun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Core), with a temperature of around 15 Million degrees, and a density around 150 times that of water.

I would say that the surface of the Earth would be vaporized, and the rocks below crushed. The remains would be a glowing cinder.
 
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: flr on 01/06/2016 13:32:43
The initial question sounded to me more like the case that  the surface of the Earth was 10,000km from the surface of the Sun (i.e. the center of the Sun was at a distance d=695,700km + 6,370 km+10,000km from the center of the Earth). What would happen in such case?
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: chiralSPO on 01/06/2016 14:14:31
The intense heat and radiation would be the least of our problems. 10000 km would put us well within the Roche limit of the sun: the Earth would be torn into little pieces, or just fall straight into the sun!
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 01/06/2016 14:55:51
The initial question sounded to me more like the case that  the surface of the Earth was 10,000km from the surface of the Sun (i.e. the center of the Sun was at a distance d=695,700km + 6,370 km+10,000km from the center of the Earth). What would happen in such case?

Correct for only one brief minute and then it returns to its own position some 93 million miles from earth?
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 01/06/2016 15:00:19
The intense heat and radiation would be the least of our problems. 10000 km would put us well within the Roche limit of the sun: the Earth would be torn into little pieces, or just fall straight into the sun!

That is true, but I am really asking about "heat/radiation exchange" between the sun and he earth, in that one brief minutes it exists at 10 000,kilometers from earth, strictly a hypothetic thought experiment?
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 01/06/2016 15:01:02
The initial question sounded to me more like the case that  the surface of the Earth was 10,000km from the surface of the Sun (i.e. the center of the Sun was at a distance d=695,700km + 6,370 km+10,000km from the center of the Earth). What would happen in such case?

Correct!
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: impyre on 01/06/2016 15:14:17
Most of the atmosphere would be gone. At least half the planet would be baked to a crisp. It wouldn't be survivable. Magnetosphere would likely recover just fine (I think lol). Water cycle, ocean currents, weather patterns, all of that would get wrecked. It'd be pretty chaotic I imagine.
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: chiralSPO on 01/06/2016 19:52:37
The sun is now about 150 million km away, and insolation changes with the square of distance, so if it were to be 10 thousand km away, the insolation would increase by a factor of 225 million (22500000000%) In that one second, we would receive an entire years's worth of sunlight!

...that would hurt!


Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: jeffreyH on 01/06/2016 21:00:04
So what would be the best sun screen to use?
Title: Re: If the sun came 10,000 km of Earth for 1 second what would happen?
Post by: Alan McDougall on 01/06/2016 21:13:12
So what would be the best sun screen to use?

Jupiter!