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Title: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 08/03/2017 10:55:48
Im very disappointed to realize young women are increasingly gay or bisexual at a rate far higher than men indicating sexuality cannot be treated equally if we hope to create an equitable society, even more tragic it appears lesbians still desire procreating which only adds more men to the dating market while simultaneously removing women(themselves) on an already unsustainably-overpopulating planet, obviously this equation can only exponentially increase hostility/aggression in a bigger stronger faster higher-neuron higher-testosterone gender(men) which has played out globally throughout our history with religion having emerged to contain the problem, the best approach appears to be relentlessly discouraging homosexual procreation/parenting because creating a lopsided dating competition with your own opposite gender offspring is probably the biggest cause of all human conflict in history(greco-roman to modern day) and often misplaced for racial/religious conflict even though an albino sub-saharan african can very happily combine with a black sub-saharan african(or any other color, it happens all the time), not to mention all human sperm and eggs are white and shiny, while no amount of same-gender "combining" can properly nourish the mind or body of different-gender offspring...

To bury the point, even a lesbian removing a bisexual from the dating market is inequitable to men and should be highly discouraged

Your energy equity in an equal society, built on the decisions of your parents who you can blame for every wrong in your life since they brought you here with a positive expectation while blaming yourself for every success in life, can only be fair when you choose the very best you can attain in the opposite gender meaning lesbians with transexual males, gays with transexual females, or else staying single because it can only mean you fail to empathize with all the work it took to afford your energy within a zero sum self contained duality and you desire more than you can contribute, until we reach a state of equilibrium whereby those who desire more than their equity can agree and willingly remove themselves from the dating market entirely without issue, the only full choice you can ever have after being brought into the circle of energy is to leave the circle. Until then we can never attain a fair society only random chaos which will tear us apart as entropy will eventually tear apart all energy in existence and we acheive nothing with choice.

Conclusion: women have unlocked orgasmic potential and men do not, men have worked their entire existence with a refractory period in order to afford unchained females to make up the difference of intrinsically unbalanced genders, very slightly less aesthetic males proportional to the lack of female effort to acquire their best true equal in the opposite gender.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: Demolitiondaley on 08/03/2017 19:26:43
Disappointing for who? Is the internet even invented yet in your world? There are similar numbers of gay men and gay women leaving similar numbers of heterosexual men and women to pair off with. A gay couple can bring up a child in a loving, caring and safe home just as well as a heterosexual couple. Religion didn't contain the "problem" it violated the human rights of gay people. I think you're trolling.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 09/03/2017 07:22:45
I said im disappointed along with the other 60%+ of unhappily single men, gay households of all their increasingly ridiculous variety are known to more than double the rate of suicide, drug dependancy, depression and all other forms of mental illness in 2017, along with motivate the biggest human meat grinder in the world currently its called ISIS, are they no longer people?
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: Demolitiondaley on 09/03/2017 08:05:38
You have edited your post and changed the wording from "It is disappointing" to " I'm disappointed" and added extra information. You are entitled to your opinion but I believe your reasoning is wrong. I may have been mistaken believing you were trolling. Actually it now seems you believe in what you are saying and have put a great deal of thought into it. I agree to disagree, I hope your circumstances improve and you find love and happiness.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: alancalverd on 09/03/2017 15:28:51
You don't have to spend much time in female company to realise that men are redundant in western society, and are regarded as a waste of food by most women. 

Other species either produce fewer males (bees and ants) or rely on male combat and competition to ensure that only the fittest get to mate. Homo sapiens found a use for lots of males when we were hunters and farmers, but we do not play an essential part in a mechanised society where almost all offspring survive to adulthood and are educated en masse (so child rearing need not occupy a significant part of a female's life) and upper body strength has no market value.

Thus heterosexual pair bonding has no societal value, testosterone is useless, and men are scrap. One interesting indicator is the growing fashion for male vocalists with a naturally high pitch or good falsetto - hairy-chested basses don't get recording contracts these days. Look down your high street - how many mens' outfitters are there, compared with shops selling stuff for women to wear  or throw away?  Quite different from even 50 years ago.

Best advice is to a young man these days get yourself transgendered, invest in a good razor, and excel at sport. There's no way a team with all-XX chromosomes can beat fifteen huge, balding  XYs with their external genitalia removed.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: jeffreyH on 09/03/2017 19:57:29
Your world view is unique.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: alancalverd on 10/03/2017 00:33:26
The privilege of a scientific education, coupled with the curse of  extreme honesty.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: GoC on 10/03/2017 11:42:03
Alan-

   Sounds like you have to shave your chest hair every 4 hours to compete.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 10/03/2017 13:55:39
To simplify: sex requires opposite sexes, dont spread sex if you dont like sex.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: zx16 on 10/03/2017 18:39:44
Surely it would be better, if more men got into bed with men.  Then wouldn't they be more interested in kissing and loving each other, rather than starting wars?
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 12/03/2017 07:56:04
Surely it would be better, if more men got into bed with men.  Then wouldn't they be more interested in kissing and loving each other, rather than starting wars?

Sword fights never end well and surprisingly most men prefer not to make a regular habit out of inserting their most valued organ into the same place toxic human waste is stored and expelled from else why would they create toilets to have a flush button? Neither does constipation, colon/rectal fissure leading to scar tissue, irritation from dried artificial lubricant/semen, hiv, and wearing adult diapers before age 40 all in pursuit of an inferior hole to begin with, I'd save the trouble and buy a large mirror to place over my bed if I couldnt get enough of my own form. Even if these could be overcome why would a man waste valuable time and affection with someone he can never hope to create a new life with or witness the power of our DNA combining with the person we love. Opposite genders inherently provide a different perspective intended to stimulate the mind which includes occasional disagreement and of course stimulate the body with the full sensation spectrum- pain and pleasure

If a girl is after cara delevigne with xy genitals, find cara delevigne with xy genitals, if you cannot find cara delevigne with xy genitals find the next best thing, that is your only sexual equity in this life and if youre only after your own genitals i hope you explore them until you can handle yourself enough to join our gender diverse adult society else find one of the many lonely transexual males to bump holes with and lick from mediocre unequal/impersonal angles until you desire more complexity
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 13/03/2017 06:57:34
Also consider the role clothes might play in disrupting healthy desensitization to our own form, curiosity creating precedent and bias overcoming function

If a lesbian does not enjoy sex why create a son to desire what you are unwilling to give or force the next girl to do what you are unwilling to do else force your son to stay single when you are unwilling to stay single which wouldve increased your sons opportunities in the local dating pool to begin with

Theres a word for lesbians who prey exclusively on bisexual women
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 16/03/2017 22:12:36
Opposite sexes are required for sex to exist, sex is the primary function of all dual gender organisms on earth from which all other functions and genetic complexity evolve based on the life and mating choices of all previous related organisms in the lineage which creates the structure of their DNA, throughout life DNA is radioactively altered allowing for more mutation to occur the longer the organism survives. The sex organs of both genders share analogous structures intended to ensure both are capable of enjoying sex, orgasm stimulation evolved as the function of all sex organs, when sex is not enjoyed it is no different than organ failure and shouldnt be replicated, you may as well be a different species if you cannot find a way to enjoy the varied sensations of sex which can include both pain and pleasure(switch) combined to suit preference using technique(foreplay, speed, cadence, arrousal level), so long as flesh is in contact there will be stimulation

If you cannot find a way to enjoy sex do not replicate sex and do not procreate, lesbians who cannot enjoy sex can only create daughters with less ability to enjoy sex and sons who can only create daughters with less ability to enjoy sex, while gay men i assume can only create a tendency to prefer stirring the unsanitary toxic waste of another human as the anus is only an inch away from the vaginal opening
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 16/03/2017 22:25:27
Until we have the ability to manipulate our DNA in realtime to become any shape desired, we should work to attain the most equitable shapes. We should also acknowledge that even the most exotic shapes would tend to prefer hetero-interaction with endless ability to switch so we should keep this in mind when deciding what is moral and most equitable
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 16/03/2017 22:31:08
The uncertainty principle is a dichotomy and a spectrum simultaneously which can only move towards entropy equilibrium, since all energy in existence is caused by the uncertainty principle (nothing/uncertainty/"female" vs something/principle/"male") we can apply the concept to any dichotomy to achieve equilibrium. Most people would agree sex is our most desired interaction in life meaning a lack of sex causes the least desireable outcomes as a society which is why in order to attain a fair and balanced society we should work to achieve sexual equilibrium. Sex is a non-overlapping structurally-genetically analogous spectrum in all but cases of intersex genitals, game theory dictates that discouraging homosexual procreation is the only way to contain the spread of asexuality even if only considering that homosexuals have inherently fewer dating options/less opportunity, but since our sex organs are analogous and all of our minds use the same laws of physics, we can only assume homosexuality is the result of undesireable physical traits. The most humane way to contain this sexual disruption so we can reach equilibrium is to discourage homosexual procreation to prevent creating more people with fewer opportunity both homosexuals and even worse their potential heterosexual offspring who can only inherit these undesireable physical traits. Sex or gender is just one example of a dichotomy-spectrum, since we need all the functional genetic diversity we can physically sustain else increase the risk of fatal mutation, disruptions to secondary spectrums such as racism and religious hostility can only be the result of sexual disruption
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 16/03/2017 22:57:37
Relevant info from another thread:

I read an article on human pheromones being a myth which I disagree with, under the best circumstances where the mother and father are both present and provide a positive influence on the childs life we learn to associate male and female scents with whatever (hopefully healthy) early intimate interactions we had with our parents and siblings carrying into adulthood
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: tkadm30 on 17/03/2017 23:28:09
Sexual orientation is the product of our free will (undetermined/quantum logic).

We have the freedom to pick up a partner independently of the configuration of our DNA genes,
and the freedom to have sex (or not) independently of our mental states.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 20/03/2017 05:36:44
Sexual orientation is the product of our free will (undetermined/quantum logic).

We have the freedom to pick up a partner independently of the configuration of our DNA genes,
and the freedom to have sex (or not) independently of our mental states.

Thats only true until gays artificially procreate spreading their incompatible gay genes onto their offspring, what about their kids free will?
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: tkadm30 on 20/03/2017 10:34:30
Thats only true until gays artificially procreate spreading their incompatible gay genes onto their offspring, what about their kids free will?

There's no such thing as gay genes. Sexual orientation is independent of our biological reproductive system. Even animals can turn into homosexuality, then go back to heterosexual behavior.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: the5thforce on 21/03/2017 15:02:48
Thats only true until gays artificially procreate spreading their incompatible gay genes onto their offspring, what about their kids free will?

There's no such thing as gay genes. Sexual orientation is independent of our biological reproductive system. Even animals can turn into homosexuality, then go back to heterosexual behavior.

All minds use the same laws of physics, homosexuality can only be caused by dysfunction, in animals the dysfunction is mainly pheromone sensory disorder, in humans the dysfunction is sex organ size, gay's sex organs are usually too big or too small which is why they dont enjoy sex in the right place, to contain deviant organs we need to discourage gay procreation
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: tkadm30 on 21/03/2017 16:12:29
All minds use the same laws of physics, homosexuality can only be caused by dysfunction, in animals the dysfunction is mainly pheromone sensory disorder, in humans the dysfunction is sex organ size, gay's sex organs are usually too big or too small which is why they dont enjoy sex in the right place, to contain deviant organs we need to discourage gay procreation

You should start your own religion.
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 21/03/2017 22:15:26
All minds use the same laws of physics, homosexuality can only be caused by dysfunction, in animals the dysfunction is mainly pheromone sensory disorder, in humans the dysfunction is sex organ size, gay's sex organs are usually too big or too small which is why they dont enjoy sex in the right place, to contain deviant organs we need to discourage gay procreation

You should start your own religion.

Im a pantheist, youre already in my religion
Title: Re: Sexual orientation economics
Post by: Demolitiondaley on 21/03/2017 23:16:45
Thats only true until gays artificially procreate spreading their incompatible gay genes onto their offspring, what about their kids free will?

There's no such thing as gay genes. Sexual orientation is independent of our biological reproductive system. Even animals can turn into homosexuality, then go back to heterosexual behavior.

All minds use the same laws of physics, homosexuality can only be caused by dysfunction, in animals the dysfunction is mainly pheromone sensory disorder, in humans the dysfunction is sex organ size, gay's sex organs are usually too big or too small which is why they dont enjoy sex in the right place, to contain deviant organs we need to discourage gay procreation


Why would having a huge shlong make someone predisposed to being gay? If it doesn't fit in "the right place" what other place could a gay guy put it that another guy could offer that a female couldn't offer? I'd like to look at the statistics you seem to be aware of that identify abnormal penis size amongst gay men.
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 22/03/2017 06:11:24
Thats only true until gays artificially procreate spreading their incompatible gay genes onto their offspring, what about their kids free will?

There's no such thing as gay genes. Sexual orientation is independent of our biological reproductive system. Even animals can turn into homosexuality, then go back to heterosexual behavior.

All minds use the same laws of physics, homosexuality can only be caused by dysfunction, in animals the dysfunction is mainly pheromone sensory disorder, in humans the dysfunction is sex organ size, gay's sex organs are usually too big or too small which is why they dont enjoy sex in the right place, to contain deviant organs we need to discourage gay procreation


Why would having a huge shlong make someone predisposed to being gay? If it doesn't fit in "the right place" what other place could a gay guy put it that another guy could offer that a female couldn't offer? I'd like to look at the statistics you seem to be aware of that identify abnormal penis size amongst gay men.

They put it in the inelastic one that stays stretched out
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: tkadm30 on 22/03/2017 09:14:44
They put it in the inelastic one that stays stretched out

Are you feeling frustrated because people can have their own sexual identity?

Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 22/03/2017 14:24:16
They put it in the inelastic one that stays stretched out

Are you feeling frustrated because people can have their own sexual identity?



Only when it interferes with mine or worse- I inherit their dysfunction.

Maximizing function always maximizes choice, hetero interaction is always the maximum of social energy efficiency, we only guide entropy during our 80 year tour of earth, the 4 billion years before that were decided for you
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 23/03/2017 21:38:13
Since genders are completely malleable, creation can only be channeled into the opposite gender, stealing from the other side by choosing your side can only further create the bad you were trying to avoid in the other side

Sex requires genitals that arent too big or too small, mutual masturbation or sexual autism cant be spread for a reason because its rarely or never worth spreading, spreading homosexual genes isnt fair to the offspring

All products of sex are either sexually compatible or sexually incompatible, the biggest incompatibilities in the world are usually the most hostile
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 25/03/2017 09:55:50
For better and worse, female rape victims rarely become calculated motivated serial killers or world war dictators so we can safely say neglect and social isolation is infinitely more psychologically and socially damaging, clearly both are undesired but by nature inversely proportionate and self reinforced

We need to establish permanently that the mission is superior, all enjoyable deviance equals someone elses misfortune
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 28/03/2017 00:38:42
Men are probably 'capable' of around 50,000 or more orgasms in an 80 year lifespan, after 2 weeks spontaneous ejaculation is likely but the tension can become uncomfortable so few wait- especially in our crowded society where casual interaction is expected. Since we can only create both males and females, parents should reflect offspring to avoid creating a social vacuum and acknowledge the massive responsibility male biological pressures are, the majority of men desire monogamy out of functionality as long term consistent sex with one woman is always more desireable than one easily forgotten night with even the most attractive which porn has decreased the value of while further reinforcing consistency as the highest priority. With 80% of divorces filed by women in western countries we should increase the incentive to stay together until each childs 18th year and realize life is exponentially more valuable before the end of brain development, especially going forward now that most of our problems only require engineering fusion, biology, software, environment, space all heavily assisted by computer simulations
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 30/03/2017 19:56:56
Since humans evolved with a hymen the best way to nurture healthy energy-contributing straight females is education, good sex requires practice and understanding the clitoris-clitoral bulb trapdoor/displacement mechanism which provides stimulation during penetration, knowing and visualizing sex correctly would be required to maximize arrousal, adequate proper sex fine tunes the muscles of the vagina to prepare for childbirth minimizing pain and injury, obviously the body isnt developed until the end of puberty so practicing sex before the end of puberty is misguided and may interfere with development (15-17 plus giving psychological runway until 18 as western countries do), after proper education you can fetishize the motion of the clitoris tugging/bouncing to the cadence of penetration which cant be recreated with same sex contact, since humans do look similar homosexuality has become the path of least resistence for some, while common metaphors and religion all aim to educate humans- for example putting your hands in a praying position and then curling or cupping your hands demonstrates the trapdoor mechanism, kingdoms or castles tend to have trapdoors, trap is all around, if our minds all use the same laws of physics our understanding of physics can only increase mental similarity which is morality

Since we dont have unlimited resources including space and time, were eternally bound to energy economics which homosociality can only disrupt, virtual reality will never equal the energy efficiency of baseline reality or interaction with other baseline minds which goldilocks/energy transfer thresholds infinitely prevent, sexually-reproductively functional physical/genetic/dna diversity is our only tool to resist radiation which is a fundamental property of energy
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 16/04/2017 04:13:59
Since were all just the products of sex requiring opposite but analogous sex organs, homo'sex'uality even when caused by physical dysfunction is the definition of sexism or "sexiation", this disruption to social balance can only increase the probability of isolation

ultimately homosexuality is an intersex (spectrum) disruption of the human sexual goldilocks ratio which has the ability to occur in any energy self contained gender analogous organism particularly when accelerated by either radiation or sensory stimuli such as "hallucinations" or extrasubjective perception but eventually creating common understanding and universal morality which in our case is technologically assisted through our mastery of electricity powering the internet

research says 30% of women now shamelessly self proclaim being in a same sex relationship and 60% identify as bisexual while only 1-2% of men do, the only way to contain this hole-y sexual war created by previous generations is to incessantly discourage homosexual procreation going forward else continue growing men in a social vacuum with no option but to refuse spending their life idolizing an exit for feces

some lesbians are manipulating desperate men into having their children while still demanding child support or taxing the system, men should stop stocking sperm banks and have more discretion for sexuality when procreating else they'll continue inflating the gene pool with incompatible sexes on our overpopulating planet

a functional national tribe requires sexual equity else some in the population will be forced to orgasm alone and eventually stop valuing the rest of the tribe, when we encourage homosexuality which is overwhelmingly female dominated we create men who value the tribe less, were much better off encouraging women to settle for mental orgasm as they have less testosterone and no refractory period

so long as homopeople are allowed to procreate we should establish that eating is the main stimulation in life but eating probably doesnt require 86 billion neurons so were better off discouraging sex organ deviation until the day women pursue men

at this point few in the west still have allegiance to the word marriage, the concept of a heterogender union matters most
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 16/04/2017 04:33:11
western society has become lesbians vs autonomous males, men like licking much more than women do- heterosexuality is the purpose of procreation in all heterogender organisms

women are living in the same rooms driving up the cost of rent for men while women already dominate the service economy

facial hair starts where the facial skin cuts off from the licking angle, men with facial hair tended to lick more, men have stronger more precise tongues, hair can always be removed, scissoring is next to impossible, men have the backside of a teenage female but bigger is always better, looking at a face can only be so good, orgasming with minimal or even no visual stimulation allows you to focus on the sensation more which women are better equiped for having multiple orgasms without a refractory period, lesbian oral sex only wastes the beauty of a womans full face and body along with the 4 billion extra male neurons required to create it

every orgasm is only worth what the opposite gender can provide else women wouldnt have an orgasm to begin with, orgasmic ability is a gift from the opposite gender, even "facetime" parity is required for true gender equality

with many exceptions, more melanin tends to require slightly more physical functionality which allows bigger phallus and better clitoral mechanics but averaged out by ethnic height variation and neuron-body ratio

theres only enough variation within each gender for everyone to find what they deserve in the opposite gender including males with naturally no facial hair, the vast majority of gay men are still able to keep an erection for women but most men have no ability to even attain an erection for other men, the clitoris is evolutionarily required to be easier to stimulate- mastering sex which requires communication is the reward of life
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 16/04/2017 08:30:08
Gays can never kiss face to face during climax, in the multiverse everyone tends to be straight,

all sperm start heterosexual, relationship openness is a spectrum...
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: PhysBang on 16/04/2017 14:33:06
Gays can never kiss face to face during climax,
That is not even close to true. You clearly have a very limited knowledge of sex and a very limited imagination.
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in the multiverse everyone tends to be straight,
There is little evidence that there is more than one universe and there is clearly no sociological data on any planet other than Earth, so this claim is baseless.
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all sperm start heterosexual, relationship openness is a spectrum...
Sperm do not have neurons or anything else that could instantiate desire or other cognitive functions, so they cannot possibly have a sexual orientation.

What we clearly have evidence for is that the5thforce is a bigot with very little in the way of education or intellectual ability. The latter failures are acceptable but the first is not.
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 16/04/2017 22:05:03
Gays can never kiss face to face during climax,
That is not even close to true. You clearly have a very limited knowledge of sex and a very limited imagination.
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in the multiverse everyone tends to be straight,
There is little evidence that there is more than one universe and there is clearly no sociological data on any planet other than Earth, so this claim is baseless.
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all sperm start heterosexual, relationship openness is a spectrum...
Sperm do not have neurons or anything else that could instantiate desire or other cognitive functions, so they cannot possibly have a sexual orientation.

What we clearly have evidence for is that the5thforce is a bigot with very little in the way of education or intellectual ability. The latter failures are acceptable but the first is not.

Kissing is already very difficult during insex, kissing during mutual orgasm is impossible without feeling the contractions, the more sex you have the better it feels most importantly for women, quantum mechanics requires multiple universes(each frame of reality is a 'quanta' within the multiverse), sperm is itself a neuron with a tail, im not only tolerant of different opinions I exist because of them but the truth eliminates all contradictions in time

when gays have straight kids the kids have to work for what their parents already took away, this is manifesting today when the overwhelmingly single generation X men only want to hire millennial women for the service economy after forgiving the debt on their obsolete degrees, ultimately the result of boomer behavioral sink
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: PhysBang on 17/04/2017 16:55:33
I'm very happy when bigots are so obviously ignorant.
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
Post by: the5thforce on 17/04/2017 23:10:02
Male orgasm is required every couple weeks but visual stimulation isnt necessary to achieve orgasm and only women have no refractory period

Orgasm can only be biologically self contained, visually assisted orgasm requires identifying healthy physical form which both genders can only possess proportionate to past and present effort

Orgasm is the empathy bond between mutually required genders, orgasmic parity is required to create a gender equal society, the only fair alternative is discouraging gay procreation or filtering Y sperm as heterogenics is already the purpose of sex

Directly genetically engineering our children might be a waste of our intelligence but DNA modification is required to counter disease and aging
Title: Re: What are the economics of sexual orientation?
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