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Title: Do differences in time perception create confusion between people?
Post by: puppypower on 20/05/2017 12:29:08
Just as we can see differences in distance; close and far, microscope and telescope, it appears that time perception works the same way. We can see close in time, or far away in time. For example, there are those who plan for the future ; telescope of time. Their often show routine behavior and slow movement toward a distance goal in time. They have a different view of reality, compared to those who live in the moment; microscope of time. These people are into anything new and faddish. Just as the biologist can't see planets with his microscope, the astronomer can't see cells. The epicurean can smell the roses, while the long planner may not be aware of the roses, even though they walk past them each day. This is all based on time perception impacting data perception.

In terms of the brain, emotions can be used to tweak the microscope and/or telescope range of time perception, with fear the best microscope of time. When one is overcome with fear, and the fight or flight instinct kicks in, one is not living beyond the immediate second, since every second counts in terms of survival. One is not planning lunch even a few hours away, since that point in time may never be reached. You will need to see more detail, in less time, to be able to make split second decisions for survival. You would need to control the fear to make a longer term strategy; back off the microscope.

Love, on the other hand, turns the time knob the other way and begins to open the telescope of time. When in love one begins to flow in time, with years passing toward distant goals and stages of life. The happy couple find themselves looking old, but feeling that timeless feeling, that has been there for decades.

If you look at the media and politics, the media is all about making a big deal about minutia, wth so much said about so little. They attempt to induce the microscope of time, so less means more since people can't use the telescope. With the telescope you don;'t sweat the details, as much, since different grains of sand don't matter when it comes to late scale orbit of the moon. Time tweaking, using to the microscope, is part of the bag of tricks used by media con artists, so the audience can see a bigger deal, with they pitch product with ads. 

The easiest con is to narrow time perception, by inducing fear and hate, so people can't see very far in time, beyond the tip of their nose. The result is everything appears like an emergency, due to lack of long term time perception. These emergencies are analyzed by experts, and then forgotten after the three day news cycle is over. At the same time, the microscope of time does not allow the audience to see how there is a three day news cycle, and how what was so urgent a week ago, is out of time today. It had nothing to do with long term reality. Since emotions are primal, they are easy to induce via a herd affect. Fear and hate; war, is better dealt with in an army; herd affect.

The result is those induced into the microscope of time and those who use the telescope of time, are on two different pages, causing what appears to be division of perception.  In really isn't anything there, other than differences in time perception, with both parties optimized to microscope or telescope. The left tends to be more microscope due to emotional training to shift time perception downward on cue, but never to love. It is mostly angry.

Science is mostly based on the long term perception of time. Things are slow to change, with new discoveries inducing the microscope of time. The new can appear to have a science changing impact. But since the capacitance of science is set to long term time, the perturbation stays smaller scale and eventually forms equilibrium.

 
Title: Re: Do differences in time perception create confusion between people?
Post by: tkadm30 on 22/05/2017 14:52:33
I would say that time is relative to human consciousness. We perceive time as a measure of reality. When we sleep, time become not so important. What do matter is that we can use time independently of someone else perception.  :)

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_perception 
Title: Re: Do differences in time perception create confusion between people?
Post by: evan_au on 22/05/2017 21:54:20
I heard of a group of psychologists who analyzed speakers of different languages.

They found that speakers of languages like English which has a separate future tense tend to save less, smoke more and do more risky activities. They attributed this to the fact that talking about the future has a different grammatical construct than talking about the present. This (they claim) divorces my actions in the present from their consequences in the future, leading to short-term planning.

They examined quite a number of language groups, and tried very hard to control for the large number of confounding factors.

They pointed to methods used by psychologists with English-speaking patients: Write a list of things you need to achieve, but write it in the present tense, so that what you are aiming to achieve starts today.
Title: Re: Do differences in time perception create confusion between people?
Post by: puppypower on 23/05/2017 12:38:14
I heard of a group of psychologists who analyzed speakers of different languages.

They found that speakers of languages like English which has a separate future tense tend to save less, smoke more and do more risky activities. They attributed this to the fact that talking about the future has a different grammatical construct than talking about the present. This (they claim) divorces my actions in the present from their consequences in the future, leading to short-term planning.

They examined quite a number of language groups, and tried very hard to control for the large number of confounding factors.

They pointed to methods used by psychologists with English-speaking patients: Write a list of things you need to achieve, but write it in the present tense, so that what you are aiming to achieve starts today.

As another example, say I gave a case of prime porterhouse steaks, one each to two different groups.  I tell the first group they can have the steaks but they only have one afternoon to utilize them or they need to be thrown out. The second group I will tell them they can also have a case of steaks, but this is all the meat they will get for one year.

The first group's time perception is narrowed down to an afternoon, with the optimized solution for that time scale a cookout party. Emotions will appear in the group to help reinforce the time parameter, such as excitement, hunger and desire, etc., at the prospect of pigging out on those juicy tender steaks.

The second group will try to control these short term emotions, since they know they need to budget for a year.They can't get into too much of a party mood, or else they know they will eat the seed potato and have hard times in the future. The group may induce fear of the future, to create inhibitions, in short term thinking; desire. They will use emotional blending formulas to tweak the time perception knob. This way this is less repressed desire, disappointment and conflict.

In both cases, each group tries to optimize to the time allotted. If neither group was aware, that the other had a different time constraint, they may interpret each other's opposite actions as being, irrational, relative to what they perceive as the correct time budget. Both parties can feel conviction, while never able to agree, simply because each is in a different time scale for action.

This is an example of where the time is specified first, and then the group adapt itself, by regulating the emotions for that time budget until both align. In most cases, the emotions will come first and these will set an implied time budget to be optimized that one may not even be aware of. In the case of the above experiment, clarifying the different two time budgets of the experiment can clarify misunderstanding. But if time is implied, but not directly specified by the emotions, there is less likelihood different two time optimization will be able to empathize. Both feel conviction.