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Title: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 06/08/2017 22:25:44
It was suggested by Arun (et al.) That rotation enters the Friedmann equation like

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[1]. see references

It's proposed the correct derivation is not only longer, but in this form, should have a sign change for the triple cross product. Really what is in implied by the centrifugal term is a triple cross product, is the use of the cross product terms

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Even though the centrifugal force is written with cross products 579c29099293cc4a35a95bd292ce2a53.gif it is not impossible to show it in a similar form by using the triple cross product rule

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Using 6ecaad2ab5663a44d55395f2f7eb2372.gif because of orthogonality we get

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which justifies this form of writing it as well. If the last term is the centrifugal acceleration then the acceleration in the two frame is just, while retaining the cross product definition with positive sign,

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Expanding we get

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Which is the four-component equation of motion which describes the pseudoforces. This gives us an equation of motion as

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Or simply as

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In the rotating frame we have

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Since inertial systems are only a local approximation, the inertial frame of reference here may been seen to go to zero leaving us the general equation of motion for a universe

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Using

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we get

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The concept of rotation in a universe was initially explored by Godel, but we have made some progress since his day and his simple non-expanding metric. The idea the universe has a rotation was also explored by Hawking who admitted they very well could be the kind of model we associate to reality, except the rotation has to be remarkably slow.

In the discovery of dark flow, it seems this could be the perfect candidate of a residual primordial rotation. It was proven by Hoyle and Narlikar that any primordial rotation would exponentially decay in an expanding universe. This is an important realization to understand how rotation in the primordial stages was allowed to be large and decayed as the scale factor of a universe increases, leaving behind presumably, something like dark flow in the observable motion of all the systems in the universe - hopefully this will be supported with further mapping of dark flow over larger quantities of systems.

Even though technically speaking, the axis could not be discernible in the Godel universe, it becomes a non-problem in a late universe which experiences a decay in rotation. Arguably, dark flow is way too slow to discern any axis of evil.  For exact values on how rotation mimics dark energy (or expansion energy) please read the link below. The rotation will give rise to the classical centrifugal force, arising in a universe and pushing systems away.




references

[1].https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51956326_Primordial_Rotation_of_the_Universe_and_Angular_Momentum_of_a_wide_rangeof_Celestial_Objects


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 07/08/2017 21:01:37
The energy described in the following article at the scale of our Universe’s super-supermassive black hole is dark energy.

Black holes banish matter into cosmic voids (http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Black_holes_banish_matter_into_cosmic_voids_999.html)

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Some of the matter falling towards the [supermassive black] holes is converted into energy. This energy is delivered to the surrounding gas, and leads to large outflows of matter, which stretch for hundreds of thousands of light years from the black holes, reaching far beyond the extent of their host galaxies.

Our visible universe is in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole. As ordinary matter falls toward the super-supermassive black hole it evaporates into a cosmological fluid. It is the cosmological fluid outflow which pushes the galaxy clusters, causing them to move outward and away from us. The cosmological fluid outflow is dark energy.

The galaxy clusters which have been pushed for longer than we have are accelerating outward and away from us. We are accelerating outward and away from the galaxy clusters which have been pushed for less time than we have. From our perspective most of the galaxy clusters are accelerating away from us.

Cosmic Void “Pushes” Milky Way (http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/cosmic-void-pushes-milky-way-3001201723/)

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Astronomers have discovered a giant cosmic void that explains why our Local Group of galaxies is moving through the universe as fast as it is.

The void is where the cosmological fluid is able to flow through unimpeded, pushing the Milky Way.

Powerful Black Hole at Heart of Phoenix Cluster’s Central Galaxy Surprises Astronomers (http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/black-hole-phoenix-clusters-central-galaxy-04623.html)

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The new ALMA observations reveal long filaments of gas

Galaxy filaments are larger versions of the gas filaments.

The universe may have been born spinning, according to new findings on the symmetry of the cosmos

If the universe was born rotating, like a spinning basketball, Longo said, it would have a preferred axis, and galaxies would have retained that initial motion.

Is the universe still spinning?

"It could be," Longo said. "I think this result suggests that it is."

The universe has a preferred axis of rotation because our visible Universe is in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole.

Astronomers in South Africa discover mysterious alignment of black holes (https://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-press/2816-astronomers-in-south-africa-discover-mysterious-alignment-of-black-holes)

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Since these black holes don’t know about each other, or have any way of exchanging information or influencing each other directly over such vast scales, this spin alignment must have occurred during the formation of the galaxies in the early universe

The reason for the alignment is due to the galaxies being in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole.

Dark flow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_flow) may be related to the motion along the axis associated with the Universal outflow we exist in.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 07/08/2017 22:43:15
The energy described in the following article at the scale of our Universe’s super-supermassive black hole is dark energy.

Black holes banish matter into cosmic voids (http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Black_holes_banish_matter_into_cosmic_voids_999.html)

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Some of the matter falling towards the [supermassive black] holes is converted into energy. This energy is delivered to the surrounding gas, and leads to large outflows of matter, which stretch for hundreds of thousands of light years from the black holes, reaching far beyond the extent of their host galaxies.

Our visible universe is in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole. As ordinary matter falls toward the super-supermassive black hole it evaporates into a cosmological fluid. It is the cosmological fluid outflow which pushes the galaxy clusters, causing them to move outward and away from us. The cosmological fluid outflow is dark energy.

The galaxy clusters which have been pushed for longer than we have are accelerating outward and away from us. We are accelerating outward and away from the galaxy clusters which have been pushed for less time than we have. From our perspective most of the galaxy clusters are accelerating away from us.

Cosmic Void “Pushes” Milky Way (http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/cosmic-void-pushes-milky-way-3001201723/)

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Astronomers have discovered a giant cosmic void that explains why our Local Group of galaxies is moving through the universe as fast as it is.

The void is where the cosmological fluid is able to flow through unimpeded, pushing the Milky Way.

Powerful Black Hole at Heart of Phoenix Cluster’s Central Galaxy Surprises Astronomers (http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/black-hole-phoenix-clusters-central-galaxy-04623.html)

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The new ALMA observations reveal long filaments of gas

Galaxy filaments are larger versions of the gas filaments.

The universe may have been born spinning, according to new findings on the symmetry of the cosmos

If the universe was born rotating, like a spinning basketball, Longo said, it would have a preferred axis, and galaxies would have retained that initial motion.

Is the universe still spinning?

"It could be," Longo said. "I think this result suggests that it is."

The universe has a preferred axis of rotation because our visible Universe is in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole.

Astronomers in South Africa discover mysterious alignment of black holes (https://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-press/2816-astronomers-in-south-africa-discover-mysterious-alignment-of-black-holes)

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Since these black holes don’t know about each other, or have any way of exchanging information or influencing each other directly over such vast scales, this spin alignment must have occurred during the formation of the galaxies in the early universe

The reason for the alignment is due to the galaxies being in the outflow of a super-supermassive black hole.

Dark flow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_flow) may be related to the motion along the axis associated with the Universal outflow we exist in.



I don't believe the universe is a true black hole. Yes, there are similarities between the structure of a universe and a black hole, but I don't take it literally, because it breaks the principle of closed systems. The universe, is a closed system, nothing is leaving it, in other words, nothing is flowing into and out of a universe to conserve information.

A big problem with the early models is that classical theory predicts that for a system to change internal energy, required there is some heat flow from some outside system. This is not tenable within relativity, which states the universe is all there is, and is closed and self-contained. Instead, we find, in the invention of field theory, that maybe energy can vary in space, more preferably, curved spacetimes where not only the production of particles can happen in irreversible ways, but also the forth power over the momenta of virtual particles in not necessarily zero.

This means interesting things can happen early on when the universe was young and curvature-dominated.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 07/08/2017 23:09:05
I don't believe the universe is a true black hole. Yes, there are similarities between the structure of a universe and a black hole, but I don't take it literally, because it breaks the principle of closed systems. The universe, is a closed system, nothing is leaving it, in other words, nothing is flowing into and out of a universe to conserve information.

A big problem with the early models is that classical theory predicts that for a system to change internal energy, required there is some heat flow from some outside system. This is not tenable within relativity, which states the universe is all there is, and is closed and self-contained. Instead, we find, in the invention of field theory, that maybe energy can vary in space, more preferably, curved spacetimes where not only the production of particles can happen in irreversible ways, but also the forth power over the momenta of virtual particles in not necessarily zero.

This means interesting things can happen early on when the universe was young and curvature-dominated.

The Universe isn't in a black hole. We are in the outflow of a Universal black hole. Our Universe is a larger version of the following.

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fchandra.harvard.edu%2Fgraphics%2Fresources%2Fdesktops%2F2009%2Fcena_1280.jpg&hash=d93d4b2c9ad76e82d4b5046dde2a421b)

Our Universe may be all that there is or our Universe may exist in a sea of Universes filling the cosmos, a larger version of our Milky Way existing in a sea of galaxies filling our Universe.

Nothing is entering or leaving the cosmos.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 07/08/2017 23:56:45
The article you linked to was very unclear. What do you mean by ''outflow?''

You say the visible/observable universe is in the ''outflow'' of a black hole - this statement makes little sense to me. How is the observable universe influenced in this way, assuming now you don't mean the universe is a black hole?

I can't visually accept or make a plausible physical picture in my mind, what is being discussed here.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:02:15
If this is some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies, another question would be, what about galaxies that do not have a supermassive black hole at their centre? There are a few we know about.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:05:03
There is evidence however, from galaxies that have lost their supermassive black holes, tend to fall apart due to their own centrifugal forces (galaxies spin after all). What seems apparent, especially for simple disk galaxies like our own, that the supermassive black hole may contribute all, if not nearly all the gravitational binding of the galaxy.

Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 00:24:43
The article you linked to was very unclear. What do you mean by ''outflow?''

You say the visible/observable universe is in the ''outflow'' of a black hole - this statement makes little sense to me. How is the observable universe influenced in this way, assuming now you don't mean the universe is a black hole?

I can't visually accept or make a plausible physical picture in my mind, what is being discussed here.

In the picture I posted there is the accretion disk associated with the galaxy. There are also the outflows represented at 90 degrees from the accretion disk. Our visible Universe is in one of the outflows associated with our Universe's super-supermassive black hole. Here is an artists image of a galaxy with its outflows.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/BlackHole.jpg/600px-BlackHole.jpg)

Our Universe is a larger version of the above. At the center of our Universe is a super-supermassive black hole. Our visible Universe is in one of the outflows associated with the Universal black hole.

Here is another image which represents our visible universe being in the outflow of a universal black hole:

(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9522a12b0cd865dcf032a21e4b6f9782-c)

The image above represents our Universe. There is a Universal black hole at the center of the image. There are outflows along the poles of the Universal black hole at 90 degrees to the accretion disk. Our visible Universe is in one of the outflows.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 00:25:48
If this is some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies, another question would be, what about galaxies that do not have a supermassive black hole at their centre? There are a few we know about.

This is not some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies. This is our Universe's super-supermassive black hole.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 00:29:24
There is evidence however, from galaxies that have lost their supermassive black holes, tend to fall apart due to their own centrifugal forces (galaxies spin after all). What seems apparent, especially for simple disk galaxies like our own, that the supermassive black hole may contribute all, if not nearly all the gravitational binding of the galaxy.

Now, scale that notion up to there being a super-supermassive black hole at the center of our Universe where our visible Universe is in one of the outflows of the super-supermassive black hole.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:32:21
So what you are saying, is that the universe has some kind of analogous black hole from which everything came from(?) and that from which everything flows from (inside) of the universe? Do I have any of that right?

If so, this model does not appeal to me, because supermassive black holes are large enough, you want a mother black hole to explain expansion in the universe (that the observable universe is an outflow) of some kind. That doesn't agree with what we actually observe - does it? If something flows, it means it is following a common direction, that we would be able to distinguish in the motion of galaxies. There is a common motion in galaxies, called dark flow, at an angle that could only really satisfy a rotating model for a universe.

None of it is very appealing. It seems to complicate the universe, by suggesting the visible universe is the outflow of matter from some mother sized black hole - and there doesn't seem to be any way to falsify it either.


Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:33:52
If this is some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies, another question would be, what about galaxies that do not have a supermassive black hole at their centre? There are a few we know about.

This is not some dynamic process linked to supermassive black holes at the cores of galaxies. This is our Universe's super-supermassive black hole.

Which is what makes this difficult to believe in... there is no evidence of a super-supermassive black hole, anywhere. The universe is homogeneous, possessing a dark flow, which would be at an angle suggesting a universe rotation.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 00:40:44
So what you are saying, is that the universe has some kind of analogous black hole from which everything came from(?) and that from which everything flows from (inside) of the universe? Do I have any of that right?

If so, this model does not appeal to me, because supermassive black holes are large enough, you want a mother black hole to explain expansion in the universe (that the observable universe is an outflow) of some kind. That doesn't agree with what we actually observe - does it? If something flows, it means it is following a common direction, that we would be able to distinguish in the motion of galaxies. There is a common motion in galaxies, called dark flow, at an angle that could only really satisfy a rotating model for a universe.

None of it is very appealing. It seems to complicate the universe, by suggesting the visible universe is the outflow of matter from some mother sized black hole - and there doesn't seem to be any way to falsify it either.

Read my original post. The black holes of galaxies spins are aligned due to our Universe having a preferred axis of rotation. Dark flow has to do with the outflow associated with our Universal black hole.

The galaxy clusters which have been pushed for longer than we have are accelerating away from us. We are accelerating away from galaxy clusters which have not been pushed for longer than we have. From our perspective, most of the galaxy clusters are accelerating away from us.

You are looking for a reason why the Universe has a preferred axis of rotation. Our visible Universe being in the outflow of a Universal black hole is the reason why our Universe has a preferred axis of rotation.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 00:43:04
The universe is homogeneous, possessing a dark flow, which would be at an angle suggesting a universe rotation.

Our visible Universe being in the outflow of a Universal reason is the reason why there is a dark flow.

The Universe rotates because the Universal black hole is powering it, and the outflow we exist in. Galaxies rotate. Our Universe rotates. Galaxies rotate based upon the supermassive black hole at their center causes it to rotate. Our Universe rotates based upon the super-supermassive black hole at the center of our Universe causing it to rotate.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:48:57
The universe is homogeneous, possessing a dark flow, which would be at an angle suggesting a universe rotation.

The Universe rotates because the Universal black hole is powering it, and the outflow we exist in. Galaxies rotate. Our Universe rotates. Galaxies rotate based upon the supermassive black hole at their center causes it to rotate. Our Universe rotates based upon the super-supermassive black hole at the center of our Universe causing it to rotate.



Sorry if this seems like an appeal to authority but it isn't really, its an appeal to the scientific method:

Einstein said ''a theory should be simple and no simpler.''

This is true. To suggest there is a black hole that is responsible for a universal rotation and is responsible for the expansion of space as an ''outflow'', is superfluous. Since there is zero evidence for such a gargantuan black hole anywhere in the universe and also based on the fact we don't need to explain universal expansion or rotation in such a way, it seems like these speculations are complicating the universe in severe ways.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 00:51:40
Sorry if this seems like an appeal to authority but it isn't really, its an appeal to the scientific method:

Einstein said ''a theory should be simple and no simpler.''

This is true. To suggest there is a black hole that is responsible for a universal rotation and is responsible for the expansion of space as an ''outflow'', is superfluous. Since there is zero evidence for such a gargantuan black hole anywhere in the universe and also based on the fact we don't need to explain universal expansion or rotation in such a way, it seems like these speculations are complicating the universe in severe ways.

Q. What causes the dark flow? What causes the Universe to have a preferred axis of rotation?
A. The Universal black hole.

Dark flow and the Universe having a preferred axis of rotation is evidence of the Universal black hole.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 00:57:25
Sorry if this seems like an appeal to authority but it isn't really, its an appeal to the scientific method:

Einstein said ''a theory should be simple and no simpler.''

This is true. To suggest there is a black hole that is responsible for a universal rotation and is responsible for the expansion of space as an ''outflow'', is superfluous. Since there is zero evidence for such a gargantuan black hole anywhere in the universe and also based on the fact we don't need to explain universal expansion or rotation in such a way, it seems like these speculations are complicating the universe in severe ways.

Q. What causes the dark flow? What causes the Universe to have a preferred axis of rotation?
A. The Universal black hole.

Dark flow and the Universe having a preferred axis of rotation is evidence of the Universal black hole.

What causes the preferred handedness is the same question related to the antimatter problem. Why is there hardly any antimatter in the universe? We expected maybe there was a collision and what we see today is the leftovers. This doesn't need to be the case with a universe with a rotation term, because it would suggest it has a dipole and so suggests it prefers one hand over another, matter over antimatter.

You ask the questions in A) and then suppose B) (the black hole) is a good solution. I assure you it isn't. Rotation isn't produced by anything, it is part of the equations of motion which describes the universe, as I have shown in the OP. Rotation, when it enters the Godel, or the better one, for the expanding model, the Friedmann equation, rotation becomes intrinsic to the universe, there is no need to explain it in terms of some absurdly large black hole, or by explaining anything as an outflow of anything.

As I said, this complicates an otherwise, simple model.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 01:02:17
it has a dipole and so suggests it prefers one hand over another, matter over antimatter.

Why does it prefer one over another?

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You ask the questions in A) and then suppose B) (the black hole) is a good solution. I assure you it isn't. Rotation isn't produced by anything, it is part of the equations of motion which describes the universe, as I have shown in the OP. Rotation, when it enters the Godel, or the better one, for the expanding model, the Friedmann equation, rotation becomes intrinsic to the universe, there is no need to explain it in terms of some absurdly large black hole, or by explaining anything as an outflow of anything.

intrinsic = it's magic!

It's your question and your thread and I will leave you to it. If you ever care to understand why there is a dark flow and why the Universe has a preferred axis of rotation it is due to the Universal black hole powering the outflow we exist in.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:04:13
it has a dipole and so suggests it prefers one hand over another, matter over antimatter.

Why does it prefer one over another?

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You ask the questions in A) and then suppose B) (the black hole) is a good solution. I assure you it isn't. Rotation isn't produced by anything, it is part of the equations of motion which describes the universe, as I have shown in the OP. Rotation, when it enters the Godel, or the better one, for the expanding model, the Friedmann equation, rotation becomes intrinsic to the universe, there is no need to explain it in terms of some absurdly large black hole, or by explaining anything as an outflow of anything.

intrinsic = it's magic!

It's your question and your thread and I will leave you to it. If you ever care to understand why there is a dark flow and why the Universe has a preferred axis of rotation it is due to the Universal black hole powering the outflow we exist in.


Well, look. If I wanted to find some dynamic way to explain how rotation may even appear in a universe, I wouldn't think about it in terms of another supermassive black hole. Again, that just complicates things. Radically wild, and not even wrong (as in, cannot be disproven).
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 01:10:25
Well, look. If I wanted to find some dynamic way to explain how rotation may even appear in a universe, I wouldn't think about it in terms of another supermassive black hole. Again, that just complicates things. Radically wild, and not even wrong (as in, cannot be disproven).

How does it complicate things when you can't explain why there is a dark flow or why the black holes of galaxies spins are aligned or why the Universe has a preferred axis of rotation? All which are correctly explained by there being a Universal black hole.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:21:43
Well, look. If I wanted to find some dynamic way to explain how rotation may even appear in a universe, I wouldn't think about it in terms of another supermassive black hole. Again, that just complicates things. Radically wild, and not even wrong (as in, cannot be disproven).

How does it complicate things when you can't explain why there is a dark flow or why the black holes of galaxies spins are aligned or why the Universe has a preferred axis of rotation? All which are correctly explained by there being a Universal black hole.

?

But my model does explain dark flow, in exactly the same way the Godel universe does. In fact, I have derived equations of motion for the exponential spiral trajectories for the dust particles to couple strongly to a rapidly rotating universe which should decay as the scale factor increases (universe gets bigger).

Things tend to couple to the motion of the early universe. This explains dark flow naturally and easily. Note, the universes rotation has to have varied: Was very fast and the exponential decay of rotation due to linear expansion is predicted by theory and so can even explain why dark flow is slow today.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:24:36
Note what this means, it means my theory explains dark flow, not only as a coupling to the rotation of a universe, but also explains why dark flow is slow, because of the Hoyle-Narlikar decay of rotation due to expansion effects.

This is simple and nice and hasn't complicated anything.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 01:26:03
But my model does explain dark flow, in exactly the same way the Godel universe does. In fact, I have derived equations of motion for the exponential spiral trajectories for the dust particles to couple strongly to a rapidly rotating universe which should decay as the scale factor increases (universe gets bigger).

Things tend to couple to the motion of the early universe. This explains dark flow naturally and easily.

"Equations of motion" don't explain what is occurring physically in nature which causes dark flow, the galaxy's spins to be aligned or what is occurring physically in nature which causes the Universe to have a preferred axis of rotation.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:34:02
But my model does explain dark flow, in exactly the same way the Godel universe does. In fact, I have derived equations of motion for the exponential spiral trajectories for the dust particles to couple strongly to a rapidly rotating universe which should decay as the scale factor increases (universe gets bigger).

Things tend to couple to the motion of the early universe. This explains dark flow naturally and easily.

"Equations of motion" don't explain what is occurring physically in nature which causes dark flow, the galaxy's spins to be aligned or what is occurring physically in nature which causes the Universe to have a preferred axis of rotation.

You're not listening to me, there is no problem with the mechanism, the same fluid dynamics existed for the Godel metric which also effected dust inside of a rotating universe. There is no mechanism problem for the coupling of universal rotation and the systems within it.

If you rotate a fluid, you will displace particles inside of it.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 01:40:49
You're not listening to me, there is no problem with the mechanism, the same fluid dynamics existed for the Godel metric which also effected dust inside of a rotating universe. There is no mechanism problem for the coupling of universal rotation and the systems within it.

If you rotate a fluid, you will displace particles inside of it.

Q. What is rotating the cosmological fluid which is causing the particles inside it to displace?
A. The Universal black hole.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:40:59
Take a read of this.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_solution
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:44:36
You're not listening to me, there is no problem with the mechanism, the same fluid dynamics existed for the Godel metric which also effected dust inside of a rotating universe. There is no mechanism problem for the coupling of universal rotation and the systems within it.

If you rotate a fluid, you will displace particles inside of it.

Q. What is rotating the cosmological fluid which is causing the particles inside it to displace?
A. The Universal black hole.

Though, technically-speaking my theory does not give an origin to rotation, it didn't really need one because talking about rotation as an intrinsic property, may sound strange, but there is evidence for this in the full Poincare symmetry group, which describes any translations, rotations ect in spacetime. So, while you may think it is pertinent to explain rotation in some dynamic way, from the viewpoint of Poincare symmetry, rotation should be a part of nature regardless.

Nevertheless, my model not only explains dark flow, but explains why it is detected to be so slow. Something I have not seen any other model tackle or a question even talked about.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 01:47:37
Take a read of this.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_solution

Dust model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_solution#Dust_model)

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Dust solutions can also be used to model finite rotating disks of dust grains; some examples are listed below. If superimposed somehow on a stellar model comprising a ball of fluid surrounded by vacuum, a dust solution could be used to model an accretion disk around a massive object

For example, it could be used to model the accretion disk of our Universal black hole.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 01:52:14
Though, technically-speaking my theory does not give an origin to rotation, it didn't really need one because talking about rotation as an intrinsic property, may sound strange, but there is evidence for this in the full Poincare symmetry group, which describes any translations, rotations ect in spacetime. So, while you may think it is pertinent to explain rotation in some dynamic way, from the viewpoint of Poincare symmetry, rotation should be a part of nature regardless.

Nevertheless, my model not only explains dark flow, but explains why it is detected to be so slow. Something I have not seen any other model tackle or a question even talked about.

intrinsic = it's magic!

Provide a link where Poincare symmetry describes what is occurring physically in nature which causes the rotation.

This is getting us nowhere. You appear to be insisting mathematical equations equal physical definitions where I am insisting that is incorrect. Good luck.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:54:36
Take a read of this.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_solution

Dust model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_solution#Dust_model)

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Dust solutions can also be used to model finite rotating disks of dust grains; some examples are listed below. If superimposed somehow on a stellar model comprising a ball of fluid surrounded by vacuum, a dust solution could be used to model an accretion disk around a massive object

For example, it could be used to model the accretion disk of our Universal black hole.

So how come we can track the evolution of the universe from a common origin? How do the background temperatures appear, what causes the vast array of particles in your ''outflow'' theory?

None of it makes sense to me and I don't think this is a matter of me ''not getting it because I am incapable of''. This is about whether a model satisfies observation, and this particular one you mention, doesn't. There is no evidence for this model, let alone several problems with cosmology arise if we considered it.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 01:56:19
Though, technically-speaking my theory does not give an origin to rotation, it didn't really need one because talking about rotation as an intrinsic property, may sound strange, but there is evidence for this in the full Poincare symmetry group, which describes any translations, rotations ect in spacetime. So, while you may think it is pertinent to explain rotation in some dynamic way, from the viewpoint of Poincare symmetry, rotation should be a part of nature regardless.

Nevertheless, my model not only explains dark flow, but explains why it is detected to be so slow. Something I have not seen any other model tackle or a question even talked about.

intrinsic = it's magic!

Provide a link where Poincare symmetry describes what is occurring physically in nature which causes the rotation.

This is getting us nowhere. You appear to be insisting mathematical equations equal physical definitions where I am insisting that is incorrect. Good luck.


What does, part of the full Poincare group, mean to you, as a physical theory?
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 01:59:49
So how come we can track the evolution of the universe from a common origin? How do the background tempertaures appear, what causes the vast array of particles in your ''outflow'' theory?

Think of the following image as picturing an ongoing process.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/CMB_Timeline300_no_WMAP.jpg/640px-CMB_Timeline300_no_WMAP.jpg)

As the cosmological fluid outflows from the Universal black hole the pressure builds up and some of the cosmological fluid condenses back in particles of ordinary matter. This is represented by "1st Stars" in the image above. The particles of ordinary matter displace the cosmological fluid. The cosmological fluid displaced by the particles of ordinary matter pushes back and exerts pressure toward the particles. This causes the particles to clump together and form larger objects. When you get to an object as large as the Earth the cosmological fluid displaced by the Earth pushing back and exerting pressure toward the Earth is gravity.

The cosmological fluid which didn't condense into particles of ordinary matter continues to outflow and push the ordinary matter causing the galaxy clusters to accelerate away from one another. This is represented by the "Dark Energy Accelerated Expansion" portion of the image above.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:03:42
You see, to scientists, the Poincare symmetry group, is very important and relates to physics.

Obviously it has properties, it is non-abelian;  but more importantly rotation and torsion are part of the full Poincare group theory of the symmetries of spacetime. It is so important though, for instance, the Poincare group is the minimal subgroup of the affine group, which itself includes all the translations and the all-important Lorentz transformations.

By the way, you say this is my thread, stop making elongated posts repeating the things you have said please. I get your picture, I just don't agree with it. I think it's wrong.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 02:05:34
You see, to scientists, the Poincare symmetry group, is very important and relates to physics.

Obviously it has properties, it is non-abelian;  but more importantly rotation and torsion are part of the full Poincare group theory of the symmetries of spacetime. It is so important though, for instance, the Poincare group is the minimal subgroup of the affine group, which itself includes all the translations and the all-important Lorentz transformations.

By the way, you say this is my thread, stop making elongated posts repeating the things you have said please. I get your picture, I just don't agree with it. I think it's wrong.

I asked for a link that relates the Poincare group to an explanation as to what is occurring physically in nature which causes rotation. You appear to have responded with only mathematical constructs.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:13:30
You see, to scientists, the Poincare symmetry group, is very important and relates to physics.

Obviously it has properties, it is non-abelian;  but more importantly rotation and torsion are part of the full Poincare group theory of the symmetries of spacetime. It is so important though, for instance, the Poincare group is the minimal subgroup of the affine group, which itself includes all the translations and the all-important Lorentz transformations.

By the way, you say this is my thread, stop making elongated posts repeating the things you have said please. I get your picture, I just don't agree with it. I think it's wrong.

I asked for a link that relates the Poincare group to an explanation as to what is occurring physically in nature which causes rotation. You appear to have responded with only mathematical constructs.

They arise because they are invariances of spacetime.

Do you know what isometry is?

It is when you have a system that remains the same after some time interval. Rotations, boosts, translations are all part of the isometries of spacetime. You are asking for a reason something rotates, generally-speaking, Poincare does not provide the reason in any specific model, but is the general explanation of why things can rotate in the first place, ... and they rotate, only because of the spacetime isometries, which may all sound very mathematical, but it has a very basis in reality.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 02:19:21
They arise because they are invariances of spacetime.

Spacetime (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime)

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In physics, spacetime is any mathematical model ...

Dark matter is a smoothly distributed superfluid sea that is displaced by ordinary matter.

What physicists mistake for the 'clumpiness' of the dark matter is actually the state of displacement of the smoothly distributed superfluid sea that fills 'empty' space and is displaced by ordinary matter.

This Dark Matter Theory Could Solve a Celestial Conundrum (https://www.wired.com/story/this-dark-matter-theory-could-solve-a-celestial-conundrum/)

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our galaxy is swimming in a superfluid sea

Dark Matter More Ubiquitous Than We Ever Thought (https://www.inverse.com/article/24863-dark-matter-might-be-smoother-than-we-thought)

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dark matter is smooth, distributed more evenly throughout space than we thought

The Earth displaces the superfluid sea. The state of displacement of the superfluid sea is the physical manifestation of the geometrical spacetime. The state of displacement of the sea is gravity.

Okay, we're definitely not getting anywhere. You are incapable of understanding the difference between a mathematical construct and physical reality. Good luck.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:20:44
You're posting whatever the hell you like now. This is my thread and you are hijacking it with your mad theories.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 02:23:14
You're posting whatever the hell you like now. This is my thread and you are hijacking it with your mad theories.

Spacetime is a mathematical construct. Curved spacetime is geometry. It's not the underlying physical phenomenon responsible for gravity.

I was trying to get you to understand the difference between mathematical constructs and physical reality. I failed.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:29:07
You're posting whatever the hell you like now. This is my thread and you are hijacking it with your mad theories.

Spacetime is a mathematical construct. Curved spacetime is geometry. It's not the underlying physical phenomenon responsible for gravity.

I was trying to get you to understand the difference between mathematical constructs and physical reality. I failed.

Well, I beg your pardon, but I don't believe in gravitons and yes, curvature is the underying physical phenomenon responsible for gravity. Gravity is a pseudo force as well, it is in the same group as the centrifugal force, Euler force and coriolis force. Technically-speaking, from first principles, gravity is a pseudo force and these kinds of forces do not require mediators in nature. Pseudo forces are thus so-called, because they are not real forces of nature, like electromagnetism or the strong or weak nuclear forces.

We are on different pages. And that other post was complete nonsense, I don't know how you expected me to get anything from it.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:31:20
You talk to me as well, as if I am accepting of the current dark model hypothesis, which I am not. I detest the dark matter hypothesis.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 02:34:14
Well, I beg your pardon, but I don't believe in gravitons and yes, curvature is the underying physical phenomenon responsible for gravity. Gravity is a pseudo force as well, it is in the same group as the centrifugal force, Euler force and coriolis force. Technically-speaking, from first principles, gravity is a pseudo force and these kinds of forces do not require mediators in nature. Pseudo forces are thus so-called, because they are not real forces of nature, like electromagnetism or the strong or weak nuclear forces.

Curved spacetime is a pseudo force, gravity is not. The state of displacement of the 'stuff' which fills 'empty' space is gravity.

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We are on different pages. And that other post was complete nonsense, I don't know how you expected me to get anything from it.

I was trying to get you to understand there is a physical phenomenon underlying the geometrical curved spacetime.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 02:35:36
You talk to me as well, as if I am accepting of the current dark model hypothesis, which I am not. I detest the dark matter hypothesis.

The notion of dark matter as a weakly interacting clump of stuff that travels with the ordinary matter is incorrect. 'Empty' space is filled with 'stuff' which is displaced by ordinary matter. The state of displacement of the 'stuff' is what is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime. The state of displacement of the 'stuff' is gravity.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:38:01
You talk to me as well, as if I am accepting of the current dark model hypothesis, which I am not. I detest the dark matter hypothesis.

The notion of dark matter as a weakly interacting clump of stuff that travels with the ordinary matter is incorrect. 'Empty' space is filled with 'stuff' which is displaced by ordinary matter. The state of displacement of the 'stuff' is what is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime. The state of displacement of the 'stuff' is gravity.


Oh dear, you don't seem to be aware of the equivalence principle. That is, acceleration is the same as gravity, which is the same as curvature. They are all the same phenomenon in relativity, you cannot simply separate them as separate phenomenon like you are attempting to do.


And on that note, good night, please don't spam this out with your own work while I am gone.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 02:41:45
Oh dear, you don't seem to be aware of the equivalence principle. That is, acceleration is the same as gravity, which is the same as curvature. They are all the same phenomenon in relativity, you cannot simply separate them as separate phenomenon like you are attempting to do.

The faster an object moves with respect to the state of the 'stuff' the greater the displacement of the 'stuff' by the object the greater the pressure exerted toward and throughout the object by the displaced 'stuff', which is the same phenomenon as gravity. The Earth displaces the 'stuff'. The 'stuff' pushes back and exerts pressure toward the Earth. The pressure exerted toward and throughout you by the 'stuff' displaced by the Earth pushing back and exerting pressure toward the Earth is the same phenomenon as you accelerating through the 'stuff'.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 02:49:44
Oh dear, you don't seem to be aware of the equivalence principle. That is, acceleration is the same as gravity, which is the same as curvature. They are all the same phenomenon in relativity, you cannot simply separate them as separate phenomenon like you are attempting to do.

The faster an object moves with respect to the state of the 'stuff' the greater the displacement of the 'stuff' by the object the greater the pressure exerted toward and throughout the object by the displaced 'stuff', which is the same phenomenon as gravity. The Earth displaces the 'stuff'. The 'stuff' pushes back and exerts pressure toward the Earth. The pressure exerted toward and throughout you by the 'stuff' displaced by the Earth pushing back and exerting pressure toward the Earth is the same phenomenon as you accelerating through the 'stuff'.

Yeah, I heard all this displacing nonsense before, and I wasn't convinced when you said it the first time around.

Sakharov posited a gravitational pressure due to zero point fields. Great theorist, but maybe not the best theory and certainly not the simplest. I said gravity, and acceleration and curvature are all the same thing, it is true within weak equivalence but obviously we can generate cases from where we can accelerate something in the absence of a gravitational field. This isn't the point of the weak equivalence though, it was to show that with significant energy, there will be a significant curvature in spacetime and it can be detected. Things in that gravitational field, will also accelerate due to gravity. The entire phenomenon though, is due to curvature. There is no particle required to explain it either.
 

Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 02:54:17
Sakharov posited a gravitational pressure due to zero point fields. Great theorist, but maybe not the best theory and certainly not the simplest. I said gravity, and acceleration and curvature are all the same thing, it is true within weak equivalence but obviously we can generate cases from where we can accelerate something in the absence of a gravitational field. This isn't the point of the weak equivalence though, it was to show that with significant energy, there will be a significant curvature in spacetime and it can be detected. Things in that gravitational field, will also accelerate due to gravity. The entire phenomenon though, is due to curvature. There is no particle required to explain it either.

With significant energy, there is significant curvature in spacetime and we have detected it.

The Milky Way's dark matter halo appears to be lopsided (http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3802)

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the emerging picture of the dark matter halo of the Milky Way is dominantly lopsided in nature.

The Milky Way's halo is not a clump of dark matter traveling along with the Milky Way. The Milky Way's halo is lopsided due to the ordinary matter in the Milky Way moving through and displacing the superfluid sea, analogous to a submarine moving through and displacing the water.

The state of displacement of the sea is the physical manifestation of the curvature of spacetime. The Milky Way's lopsided halo is curved spacetime.

Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 04:03:56
If I wanted a reason for universal rotation, my suggestion would be an investigation along these lines:

The rotation of a universe is related to the angular momentum ff44570aca8241914870afbc310cdb85.gif and the magnetic field 9d5ed678fe57bcca610140957afab571.gif. So rotation has possible origin in primordial magnetic fields associated to the universe.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 04:18:25
If I wanted a reason for universal rotation, my suggestion would be an investigation along these lines:

The rotation of a universe is related to the angular momentum ff44570aca8241914870afbc310cdb85.gif and the magnetic field 9d5ed678fe57bcca610140957afab571.gif

49455f132862f6da362a496f35e61387.gif

where 48e17114dc9f44ed717479b6ee9dcad0.gif is the classical gyromagnetic ratio. So rotation has possible origin in primordial magnetic fields associated to the universe.

You mean the magnetic fields associated with the Universal rotation caused by the Universal black hole.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 04:28:44
If I wanted a reason for universal rotation, my suggestion would be an investigation along these lines:

The rotation of a universe is related to the angular momentum ff44570aca8241914870afbc310cdb85.gif and the magnetic field 9d5ed678fe57bcca610140957afab571.gif. So rotation has possible origin in primordial magnetic fields associated to the universe.

You mean the magnetic fields associated with the Universal rotation caused by the Universal black hole.

No, I don't mean that, because there is no need for this ''universal black hole.'' Absolutely no need. A primordial magnetic field to a universe answers it all adequately.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 08/08/2017 04:35:02
sorry, they were the wrong equations. I will find the right ones tomorrow, bit pressed for time. But there are relationships that will describe rotation as a magnetic phenomenon

(on second thoughts, they may be the right ones, working from memory right now).
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: fthomposon on 08/08/2017 04:43:11
No, I don't mean that, because there is no need for this ''universal black hole.'' Absolutely no need. A primordial magnetic field to a universe answers it all adequately.

The universal black hole is the cause of it all.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: puppypower on 08/08/2017 12:25:01
Dark energy is the exothermic output stemming from the lowering of gravitational potential energy. Its presence is based on energy conservation.

The mass/gravity based output energy is analogous to an electron lowering EM energy and giving off a photon of energy as it lowers potential. This schema also happens with the nuclear forces. This output photon, due to the lowering of force potential, can be used to excite an electron elsewhere, to create what appears to be an anti-EM force affect.

The exothermic out from the lowering of gravitational potential energy impacts other mass to create what appears to be antigravity looking affects, like expansion and rotations. Expansion and the centrifugal force within a rotation creates the same vector as antigravity, even though these are not technically, antigravity. This has to due with energy conservation and follows the same pattern seen in all the other forces of nature. One would expect this to be quantized.
 
   
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 09/08/2017 06:36:09
Dark energy is the exothermic output stemming from the lowering of gravitational potential energy. Its presence is based on energy conservation.

The mass/gravity based output energy is analogous to an electron lowering EM energy and giving off a photon of energy as it lowers potential. This schema also happens with the nuclear forces. This output photon, due to the lowering of force potential, can be used to excite an electron elsewhere, to create what appears to be an anti-EM force affect.

The exothermic out from the lowering of gravitational potential energy impacts other mass to create what appears to be antigravity looking affects, like expansion and rotations. Expansion and the centrifugal force within a rotation creates the same vector as antigravity, even though these are not technically, antigravity. This has to due with energy conservation and follows the same pattern seen in all the other forces of nature. One would expect this to be quantized.
 
 

Thanked 50+ times I wonder by who. It did not take me long to see how far your crackpottery goes

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=66480.0
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: GoC on 09/08/2017 12:22:15
Thanked 50+ times I wonder by who. It did not take me long to see how far your crackpottery goes

I thanked him once. This statement would suggest you know all. What causes the electron to move? If you do not know the answer to that you are not qualified to determine how far a persons crackpottery goes. You have an abusive nature that does not belong in science. Trump could probably use another spokesperson of your nature.
Title: Re: On Dark Energy being a Centrifugal Force Phenomenon from Rotation
Post by: Dubbelosix on 09/08/2017 19:48:20
Thanked 50+ times I wonder by who. It did not take me long to see how far your crackpottery goes

I thanked him once. This statement would suggest you know all. What causes the electron to move? If you do not know the answer to that you are not qualified to determine how far a persons crackpottery goes. You have an abusive nature that does not belong in science. Trump could probably use another spokesperson of your nature.


I'll have you know, a wall of word salad is a good enough reason as any, to assume the man not has a clue what he speaks of.

I make it my point to read real science articles, I have done so for about 16 years. I know when I encounter someone who actually knows what they are talking about, I do it on a daily basis with scientists from all reaches of the world.