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Title: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 08/10/2017 17:40:05
It is true that Sun is important source of energy to our Earth. We are also having another important source that is Earth due to radioactive decay in the mantle is releasing lot of energy into open air.  Geothermal energy is the heat deep inside the earth.  Some of this heat comes from the radioactive decay of naturally occurring radioactive elements, mostly uranium and thorium, in the earth.

At present we are of the opinion that Sun energy is the only source and of course it is true but we are ignoring another important source, energy released by Earth.

Ok, let us imagine that we are already on the 4th floor in a 10 storied building.  At present we are taking 4th floor as starting point and forgetting existing 3 stairs.  Is it possible to construct 4th floor without base and 3 stairs.

If the thermometer falls to 0 degrees, is it mean that there is no energy in the atmosphere and temperature is not raising.  In case if it is true means, what about -300 degrees.  Suppose if you take -300 degrees as base than you will certainly accept that at 0 degrees there is energy in the atmosphere.

In case if the Earth fails to release energy, temperature will drop dramatically upto -300 to -400 degrees.

At present we are not utilizing this huge potential energy present before us.  For that we forgot this.  We are concentrating on the surplus energy created by Sun.

Actually nature has given vast opportunities to utilize this energy. It is true that:

01  Energy moves from high area to low
02  Energy travels with maximum speed in vacuum.

If these two principles are properly understood and used than our energy problems will be solved.

Yours
Psreddy
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Kryptid on 08/10/2017 18:11:04
Air does contain a lot of thermal energy, but you don't have any way to access that energy unless you have a temperature gradient. You need a state of disequilibrium. Otherwise, it would be like trying to turn a water wheel to generate power by putting it at the bottom of the ocean.

As to the Earth "failing to release energy", that would actually cause it to heat up dramatically. Earth is constantly receiving energy from the Sun, so its temperature can only rise if we somehow prevented it from radiating heat out into space.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Petrochemicals on 08/10/2017 18:15:36
http://www.icax.co.uk/Marine_Source_Heat_Pump.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_thermal_energy_conversion
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: guest39538 on 08/10/2017 18:15:44
It is true that Sun is important source of energy to our Earth. We are also having another important source that is Earth due to radioactive decay in the mantle is releasing lot of energy into open air.  Geothermal energy is the heat deep inside the earth.  Some of this heat comes from the radioactive decay of naturally occurring radioactive elements, mostly uranium and thorium, in the earth.

At present we are of the opinion that Sun energy is the only source and of course it is true but we are ignoring another important source, energy released by Earth.

Ok, let us imagine that we are already on the 4th floor in a 10 storied building.  At present we are taking 4th floor as starting point and forgetting existing 3 stairs.  Is it possible to construct 4th floor without base and 3 stairs.

If the thermometer falls to 0 degrees, is it mean that there is no energy in the atmosphere and temperature is not raising.  In case if it is true means, what about -300 degrees.  Suppose if you take -300 degrees as base than you will certainly accept that at 0 degrees there is energy in the atmosphere.

In case if the Earth fails to release energy, temperature will drop dramatically upto -300 to -400 degrees.

At present we are not utilizing this huge potential energy present before us.  For that we forgot this.  We are concentrating on the surplus energy created by Sun.

Actually nature has given vast opportunities to utilize this energy. It is true that:

01  Energy moves from high area to low
02  Energy travels with maximum speed in vacuum.

If these two principles are properly understood and used than our energy problems will be solved.

Yours
Psreddy

An interesting idea to try and utilise the energy released from the Earth itself.   However  without from the sun, the Earth would in little time expend all its energy . The Sun is effectively the ''recharge'' of the Earth by the potential energy of electromagnetic radiation. Unless the electromagnetic radiation is in interaction with a ''substance'' there is no energy created because the electromagnetic radiation permeates to a ''0 density'' through space.  It is only when there is a ''reactant'' body is energy created.   Newtons third law playing a huge roll.
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Suppose if you take -300 degrees as base than you will certainly accept that at 0 degrees there is energy in the atmosphere.
Yes, your constant of 0 may not be actually 0.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 14/10/2017 15:23:58
Mr kryptid

“As to the Earth "failing to release energy", that would actually cause it to heat up dramatically. Earth is constantly receiving energy from the Sun, so its temperature can only rise if we somehow prevented it from radiating heat out into space”.

Ok, as said by you and in general opinion geothermal energy is just 0.27% of the total needs of the Earth.  Suppose if the total energy needs are satisfied by the Sun, in my view it will be different.

Let us assume that only Sun energy plays key role in Earth atmosphere than it will be different.
During the day time when Sun energy reaches Earth directly radiation increases and water particles start raising upward.  If the Earth turns other side radiation drops dramatically and water particles have to come back to Earth.  But this is not happening.  There is a climate on Earth which is protecting us and making Earth different to other planets.

Let us presume that if other conditions are normal how Sun energy creates atmosphere on Earth.  If it has that capacity why don’t it do it on other planets?, even if hydrosphere is present.

At present we are keen on comparing the amount of energy, EMF coming from the Sun with that of geothermal energy.  But we have to remember one important point that Sun is still burning and Earth is already cooled.  There is climate on Earth which is differentiating.

How climate is created:
Ones our Earth is also a ball of fire only and it released lot of heat into the atmosphere.  Water particles moved from one side to other side.  As the Earth started cooling water particles developed as a layer.  Let us study with a simple example.  In a winter season to raise temperature in a house initially you have to use more firewood.  Ones it reaches required temperature, there is no need for you to use firewood continuously.  Even small amount of firewood will be sufficient to maintain required temperature throught  the night.

This is what happening on the Earth also.  As the climate is developed, there is sufficient stored energy or potential energy or “Energy base” which I had referred in “how gravity works” start playing.  Now, there is no need for huge energy and even small energy can do wonders.  It is true that this “Energy base” initially was strong and water particles moved to new height.  Curvature of the space time was more and it covered Earth completely.  Slowly as the Earth cooled  this “Energy Base” is becoming weak and Ozone layer is becoming thin and slowly moving towards Earth and scientists already noticed missing inch.

Here by, I request mr. thebox also that this is not comparing amount of energy coming from Sun and the energy released by our Earth but the role played by them.  Suppose if Earth is not dilating any Energy then ozone layer will come down to Earth during night time.  This is what happening in the polar regions.

Actually looking at Sun, we have forgot this Energy base on this Earth.  Without this “Energy base” there is no climate at all. Ozone layer will not stay at that height by itself.  Unless this “Energy base” exerts force/ pressure  it will not stay at that height.

“RECOGNISE ENERGY BASE”

“DEVELOP INNOVATIVE METHODS TO TAP THIS BASE”

Yours
Psreddy

Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Kryptid on 14/10/2017 20:28:51
It is true and known fact that hydrosphere is protecting us from the UV light coming from the Sun.  Why this hydrosphere is staying at the space and how it is created. It is true that hydrosphere carries weight and who is bearing that weight.

English doesn't appear to be your first language and that's making it difficult for me to understand exactly what you're saying. When you say "hydrosphere" are you talking about water vapor? The ozone layer is our principle defense from ultraviolet rays.

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Let us assume that only Sun energy plays key role in Earth atmosphere than it will be different.
During the day time when Sun energy reaches Earth directly radiation increases and water particles start raising upward.  If the Earth turns other side radiation drops dramatically and water particles have to come back to Earth.  But this is not happening.  There is a climate on Earth which is protecting us and making Earth different to other planets.

Radiation is not what keeps water vapor in the atmosphere. Water has a finite vapor pressure such that at any given temperature, the air above a body of water will necessarily have some amount of water vapor in it. This is because molecules of liquid water have varying velocities and some portion of those are traveling fast enough to escape the liquid phase and enter the vapor phase. When the air is saturated, water vapor is entering the air as fast as it is condensing back into liquid form.

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Let us presume that if other conditions are normal how Sun energy creates atmosphere on Earth.  If it has that capacity why don’t it do it on other planets?, even if hydrosphere is present.

Water vapor does exist in the atmosphere of other planets like Mars. It's usually just in trace amounts, however. Other planets do have climate variations as well.

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At present we are keen on comparing the amount of energy, EMF coming from the Sun with that of geothermal energy.  But we have to remember one important point that Sun is still burning and Earth is already cooled.  There is climate on Earth which is differentiating.

How climate is created:
Ones our Earth is also a ball of fire only and it released lot of heat into the atmosphere.  Water particles moved from one side to other side.  As the Earth started cooling water particles developed as a layer.  Let us study with a simple example.  In a winter season to raise temperature in a house initially you have to use more firewood.  Ones it reaches required temperature, there is no need for you to use firewood continuously.  Even small amount of firewood will be sufficient to maintain required temperature throught  the night.

This is what happening on the Earth also.  As the climate is developed, there is sufficient stored energy or potential energy or “Energy base” which I had referred in “how gravity works” start playing.  Now, there is no need for huge energy and even small energy can do wonders.  It is true that this “Energy base” initially was strong and hydrosphere moved to new height.  Curvature of the space time was more and it covered Earth completely.  Slowly as the Earth is cooling this “Energy Base” is also becoming weak and hydrosphere is becoming thin and slowly moving towards Earth and scientists already noticed missing inch.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. What do you mean "missing inch"?

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Here by, I request mr. thebox also that this is not comparing amount of energy coming from Sun and the energy released by our Earth but the role played by them.  Suppose if Earth is not dilating any Energy then hydrosphere will come down to Earth during night time.

Some might because of slightly cooler temperatures, but a good portion of water vapor would still remain in the atmosphere as I explained before.

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Actually looking at Sun, we have forgot this Energy base on this Earth.  Without this “Energy base” there is no climate at all.  Hydrosphere will not stay at that height by itself.  Unless this “Energy base” exerts force/ pressure on hydrosphere it will not stay at that height.

“RECOGNISE ENERGY BASE”

“DEVELOP INNOVATIVE METHODS TO TAP THIS BASE”

Yours
Psreddy

If you're talking about using geothermal energy, then that is already being done in various locations around the Earth.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 15/10/2017 09:11:45
Mr kryptid
You have pointed an important thing, which i do not know why i used like that.  Actually i have been misusing it and i it is little bit surprise to me why it is fixed in my mind in such a way.

I will try to present in a better way.

Please read it once again, this is not geothermal energy alone, there is stored energy on this Earth.  Hereby i once again reiterate that without this "energy base", ozone layer will come down to Earth.  This base is strengthened by energy dilated by Earth and Solar EMF.

Mr bored chemist, well let me ask one simple question.  It is a fact if we ignite an atom, huge energy comes out and it is appearing before us, but we have to see other side also, on how this energy is coming and where it was stored previously.

Yours
Psreddy
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Kryptid on 15/10/2017 15:07:48
Please read it once again, this is not geothermal energy alone, there is stored energy on this Earth.

In what form? The Earth's magnetic field? Geothermal energy would include all forms of heat stored and generated by the Earth's interior.

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Hereby i once again reiterate that without this "energy base", ozone layer will come down to Earth.  This base is strengthened by energy dilated by Earth and Solar EMF.

Ozone is continually produced in the Earth's upper atmosphere by the action of ultraviolet rays on diatomic oxygen molecules. They break down diatomic oxygen into individual oxygen radicals which then react with other diatomic oxygen molecules to form ozone. The only energy needed to maintain this is ultraviolet light. Ozone, unlike water, is a gas at room temperature and will not condense as a liquid on its own.

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Mr bored chemist, well let me ask one simple question.  It is a fact if we ignite an atom, huge energy comes out and it is appearing before us, but we have to see other side also, on how this energy is coming and where it was stored previously.

The energy released by nuclear reactions comes from the potential energy contained inside the nucleus. When a nucleus is able to enter a lower energy state (either when light nuclei combine to form heavier nuclei or when heavy nuclei break down into lighter nuclei), the difference between the previous energy state and the present energy state is changed from potential energy into kinetic energy.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 15/10/2017 15:42:16
"The energy released by nuclear reactions comes from the potential energy contained inside the nucleus. When a nucleus is able to enter a lower energy state (either when light nuclei combine to form heavier nuclei or when heavy nuclei break down into lighter nuclei), the difference between the previous energy state and the present energy state is changed from potential energy into kinetic energy".

Oh, quick reply indeed.  Thank you,
01  When total energy in the form of potential energy is stored in the nucleus.
02  How it is stable
03  In fact nucleus contains very very small amount of energy only.
04  Why it multiplies only after ignition.
05  For that small amount of energy released due to nuclear reaction has no capacity to make wonders.
06  But it is multiplying
07  Where it is drawing its energy.
08  Why it varies according to gravity.

This is not to give trouble but for discussion purpose only.

Yours
Psreddy
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Kryptid on 16/10/2017 00:57:11
01  When total energy in the form of potential energy is stored in the nucleus.
02  How it is stable

Atomic nuclei are held together by the strong nuclear force. Strictly speaking, atomic nuclei are only stable if they cannot decay into more stable particles or nuclei. However, since nuclei are quantum mechanical systems, there is a certain probability that they will decay after a certain period of time so even unstable nuclei can last for very long periods of time (sometimes more than billions of years) before decaying. It's all down to the specific structure of the nucleus.

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03  In fact nucleus contains very very small amount of energy only.

An individual nucleus does, but many nuclei together in a sizable chunk of matter contain large amounts of energy. Look at nuclear bombs.

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04  Why it multiplies only after ignition.

It doesn't. The amount of energy before and after the reaction is the same, it just changes form.

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05  For that small amount of energy released due to nuclear reaction has no capacity to make wonders.
06  But it is multiplying
07  Where it is drawing its energy.

Like I said before, it's not increasing.

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08  Why it varies according to gravity.

It doesn't.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 18/10/2017 11:51:46
Mr Kryptid
"Atomic nuclei are held together by the strong nuclear force. Strictly speaking, atomic nuclei are only stable if they cannot decay into more stable particles or nuclei. However, since nuclei are quantum mechanical systems, there is a certain probability that they will decay after a certain period of time so even unstable nuclei can last for very long periods of time (sometimes more than billions of years) before decaying. It's all down to the specific structure of the nucleus".

It is not the formation or decay of an atom but how it gives huge energy when exploded.  It is true that before ignition it is at stable condition and once  ignited huge energy is coming out.  Where this energy is stored.  As said by you if it is in the nucleus than how it is in stable condition.  How E=MC2 is possible.

Yes any explosion varies according to gravity.  Suppose if we cross our Earth atmosphere do E=MC2 possible.  Here volume of energy drops dramatically.  If the same explosion is on the moon where gravity is low, one cannot expect same results.

Ok, in case if we cross our Universe, in between two universes it is void.  Here there is no scope for any explosion at all.

If E=MC2 is true than it must be equal at all places.

Any explosion mainly depends on the gravity and the pressure with which it is present.

Yours
Psreddy
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Kryptid on 18/10/2017 22:00:34
It is not the formation or decay of an atom but how it gives huge energy when exploded.

The formation of more stable nuclei is exactly where that energy comes from. When an object enters a configuration that is in a lower state of potential energy than its previous state, the extra energy has to go somewhere. It doesn't disappear into nothingness. Also, not all nuclei release energy when they break down, sometimes it consumes energy instead.

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It is true that before ignition it is at stable condition and once  ignited huge energy is coming out.  Where this energy is stored.  As said by you if it is in the nucleus than how it is in stable condition.[  How E=MC2 is possible.

The strong nuclear force is significantly stronger than the electromagnetic force. Like I said before, the strong nuclear force is responsible for storing that potential energy. External stimulation is what is needed, in the form of a free neutron, to cause a uranium-235 atom to enter into an unstable transitional state (uranium-236) before decaying into nuclei that are more stable than the original uranium-235 atom. It's the same kind of thing that happens in chemical reactions. A molecule of TNT is less stable than its decomposition products, but it has an activation barrier that needs to be overcome before it can break down. The only difference is that the electromagnetic force is what causes chemical reactions to release energy whereas the strong nuclear force is responsible for energy release during nuclear reactions.

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Yes any explosion varies according to gravity.  Suppose if we cross our Earth atmosphere do E=MC2 possible.  Here volume of energy drops dramatically.  If the same explosion is on the moon where gravity is low, one cannot expect same results.

Any explosion mainly depends on the gravity and the pressure with which it is present.

The way that an explosion behaves would be different without an atmosphere or without gravity, but the total yield of a nuclear bomb would remain the same. A 50 megaton nuclear bomb detonated at the Earth's surface would release the same amount of energy as it would if it was detonated in outer space.

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Ok, in case if we cross our Universe, in between two universes it is void.  Here there is no scope for any explosion at all.

We don't even know if there are multiple universes, so I don't know what this means.

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If E=MC2 is true than it must be equal at all places.

It is.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 22/10/2017 16:42:09
Well, thank you kryptid for taking pains to answer basic questions:

As said by you:
“The strong nuclear force is significantly stronger than the electromagnetic force. Like I said before, the strong nuclear force is responsible for storing that potential energy. External stimulation is what is needed, in the form of a free neutron, to cause a uranium-235 atom to enter into an unstable transitional state (uranium-236) before decaying into nuclei that are more stable than the original uranium-235 atom. It's the same kind of thing that happens in chemical reactions. A molecule of TNT is less stable than its decomposition products, but it has an activation barrier that needs to be overcome before it can break down. The only difference is that the electromagnetic force is what causes chemical reactions to release energy whereas the strong nuclear force is responsible for energy release during nuclear reactions”.

The Little Boy yield is much lower than the hypothetical energy density of uranium-235. For every kilogram of uranium-235 that completely fissions, it releases about 17 kt/kg. That means that less than a kilogram of uranium-235 fissioned in the Little Boy bomb to release its 15 kilotons of energy. Where this energy is stored.
If the strong nuclear force is responsible than how it is stable. If this is not solved any research misleads us.

Ok, let us study E=MC2

Here we are taking C2 = for speed of light in vacuum.

But no standard is defined for “E”.

In normal conditions one kilogram of uranium -235 releases 15 kilotons of energy.

But how much energy it releases in vacuum.

Even if 1 kilogram of uranium -235 releases 500 kilograms of energy in vacuum than it must be set as a standard.
The difference of 14.5 kilotons for 1 kg uranium -235 must be taken for interaction with outside energy pressure/force on Earth.

If we move to space here explosion is weak.

The logic behind this is that in the atmosphere, most of the damage comes from the shockwave, which obviously cannot propagate in space.  The superheated air then expands and produces the shockwave. In space, the X-rays are not absorbed and instead go on to damage the target directly.  They still obey the inverse square law, and are not likely to be effective against mass objects such as spacecraft beyond a few kilometers, depending on the yield of the device.

The basic reason is that there is strong energy force on this Earth.  It is present with lot of pressure/force and hence it propagate and a shock wave is created.

Whereas in the space, energy is present at easy and therefore it fails to create shock wave and radiation is spreads to all sides and hits the target directly.

If E=MC2 is true than it must be valid and equal at all places, on Earth, in vacuum and in Space.

In a perfect vacuum or void, where no energy is present in the open air:
01  There is no scope for any explosion including nuclear
02  There is no scope for any EMP

But lot of research is needed and any development paves the way for space travel easy and one can imagine the possibility of travel by light ray.

Yours
Psreddy
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Kryptid on 22/10/2017 17:55:55
The Little Boy yield is much lower than the hypothetical energy density of uranium-235. For every kilogram of uranium-235 that completely fissions, it releases about 17 kt/kg. That means that less than a kilogram of uranium-235 fissioned in the Little Boy bomb to release its 15 kilotons of energy.

Nuclear fission is far less efficient than something like matter-antimatter annihilation. That's why the energy released is much less than what is predicted by E=mc2.

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Where this energy is stored.

The answer to this question has not changed since the last time I answered it.

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If the strong nuclear force is responsible than how it is stable.

The answer to this question has not changed since the last time I answered it.

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If this is not solved any research misleads us.

There is no mystery to solve. We know how nuclear fission works.

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Ok, let us study E=MC2

Here we are taking C2 = for speed of light in vacuum.

But no standard is defined for “E”.

The units usually used are joules for energy, kilograms for mass and meters per second for the speed of light.

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In normal conditions one kilogram of uranium -235 releases 15 kilotons of energy.

Only by nuclear fission. Direct annihilation of uranium-235 would release significantly more energy.

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But how much energy it releases in vacuum.

The same amount that it releases in an atmosphere.

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Even if 1 kilogram of uranium -235 releases 500 kilograms of energy in vacuum than it must be set as a standard.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Energy is not measured in kilograms.

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The difference of 14.5 kilotons for 1 kg uranium -235 must be taken for interaction with outside energy pressure/force on Earth.

That has nothing to do with the amount of energy contained in uranium-235.

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If we move to space here explosion is weak.

The logic behind this is that in the atmosphere, most of the damage comes from the shockwave, which obviously cannot propagate in space.  The superheated air then expands and produces the shockwave. In space, the X-rays are not absorbed and instead go on to damage the target directly.  They still obey the inverse square law, and are not likely to be effective against mass objects such as spacecraft beyond a few kilometers, depending on the yield of the device.

Yes, that's why an explosion in space behaves differently than one on Earth. It's not because there is less energy being released.

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The basic reason is that there is strong energy force on this Earth.  It is present with lot of pressure/force and hence it propagate and a shock wave is created.

The shock wave is created solely by the energy released by the bomb. There isn't any kind of special energy in air that makes the explosion more energetic.

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Whereas in the space, energy is present at easy and therefore it fails to create shock wave and radiation is spreads to all sides and hits the target directly.

"Energy is present at easy". I don't know what that means.

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If E=MC2 is true than it must be valid and equal at all places, on Earth, in vacuum and in Space.

It is true. Being in space makes no difference as to the energy being released.

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In a perfect vacuum or void, where no energy is present in the open air:
01  There is no scope for any explosion including nuclear
02  There is no scope for any EMP

Again, the air makes no difference as to the energy released.

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But lot of research is needed and any development paves the way for space travel easy and one can imagine the possibility of travel by light ray.

No research is needed for us to know how nuclear fission works. We already know.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: LB7 on 22/10/2017 18:36:06
Create the energy is the best solution. Look at my device, I have the CHOICE to respect or not the principle of least action. All the energies are constant: the work from the walls, the potential energy at start and at final. The white disk is fixed. But I have the choice to take several layers of spheres between the dotted black lines, the potential energy from all lines is constant but the energy from the pressure (move in/out) is not constant.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Tanny on 22/10/2017 23:13:43
Let's imagine that we found an unlimited source of completely free and completely clean energy, the perfect energy solution.

Here's what would happen next.  The economy would take off like a rocket and we'd accelerate the pace at which we burn through non-renewable resources.  Free clean energy doesn't solve the problem, it just moves it from one box to another.

The underlying problem is that whatever humans have, we always want more. Our desire is unlimited, but the planet we live on is not.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: LB7 on 23/10/2017 07:37:14
Yes, it is a problem for the economy built on fossil energy, but the economy will change and adapt itself. Why think always of money ? Think to find solutions, and don't be afraid the world will adapt itself. It is strange, I prefer old scientists because they were separate from money (at least, I imagine that :) ). Today, I think, even someone post a solution for create the energy, people who can prove it is possible (or approve) will say nothing, just because they want to make money easily from others. Even, the first to prove is very important, they prefer money, but like you said, money will desappear with new free energy :)

Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 04/11/2017 16:38:32
Mr kryptid,
Well, you have shared lot of information.

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“The formation of more stable nuclei is exactly where that energy comes from. When an object enters a configuration that is in a lower state of potential energy than its previous state, the extra energy has to go somewhere. It doesn't disappear into nothingness. Also, not all nuclei release energy when they break down, sometimes it consumes energy instead.
The strong nuclear force is significantly stronger than the electromagnetic force. Like I said before, the strong nuclear force is responsible for storing that potential energy. External stimulation is what is needed, in the form of a free neutron, to cause a uranium-235 atom to enter into an unstable transitional state (uranium-236) before decaying into nuclei that are more stable than the original uranium-235 atom. It's the same kind of thing that happens in chemical reactions. A molecule of TNT is less stable than its decomposition products, but it has an activation barrier that needs to be overcome before it can break down. The only difference is that the electromagnetic force is what causes chemical reactions to release energy whereas the strong nuclear force is responsible for energy release during nuclear reactions”.

It is not the method of explosion and everybody knows how it happens.  But it is the huge energy, where it is stored.  Suppose if the nuclei is strong and multi layered than it is not easy to detonate it.  Basically it is about shock wave, how it is developed.  Well, of course it is known fact that it is developing only after coming out  from the atoms and multiplying in the form of shock wave.

Basic doubt is:
1 No shock wave before detonation
2 Small amount of energy from atoms is multiplying
3 This process starts only after coming out into open area.

So, shock wave mainly depends on the outside energy.  This is the reason why it varies on Earth to space.

Here on Earth where stored energy is present with lot of force/pressure, in turn small amount of energy can cause big change which is not possible in space.

As thought by us, if there is no stored energy and total energy comes from Sun only than a shock wave is to be created in broad day light only.

Suppose if you switch on a dry battery cell, light propagate in wide area.  See it is not about, anode, cathode and the electrolyte and how it works.

It is true that:
01 In a dry cell very, very small amount of energy is stored.
02 Fewer electrons coming out is giving lot of light.
03 Light is nothing but electromagnetic radiation only.

In exact terms small amount of energy coming out from the dry cell has no capacity to give huge light.
It is simply multiplying only after coming out into open area.

In case if there is no stored energy then we will get light during day time only.

These things helps us to identify that there is huge stored or potential energy in the open area which is yet known or untapped.

Yours
Psreddy.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: Kryptid on 04/11/2017 18:29:41
If you haven't understood my explanation by now, then I don't know how I could reword it such that you would.
Title: Re: Methods of solving our energy problems
Post by: pasala on 05/11/2017 07:18:06
Mr kryptid
There is no need to be serious and it is simply for discussion purpose only.  You are going by subject and I am going beyond subject.

At present we are attributing an important role to dark matter and dark energy in Gravity.  It is indeed surprise to see how it influences gravity.  In case if the gravity is due to dark energy, then gravity must be equal throughout the universe.  Besides there is no clarity on how it influences.

One of my friend explained me with an example.  Taking water in a bucket, close it by an empty bucket and if we create vacuum in between, water start raising and bubbles.  Here, it is not clear in what way dark energy is influencing water.  Water due to atmosphere pressure is already keeping low and when we create vacuum, pressure is lost and raises.  In between two buckets pressure is low, so naturally pressure in the water which is high tries to occupy it and thus bubbles.

In another example of trampoline and bowling ball also it is not clear.  Here if we place a bowling ball on a trampoline, it curves the trampoline.  For this example:

01  trampoline cloth is must.
02  Bowling ball must be placed at the centre.

This example is ok, but what exactly is working as trampoline cloth in the Solar system.  Without this cloth, bowling ball cannot create curvature in the space time.

There is medium which is working as a trampoline cloth without which bowling ball cannot create curved space time.
This is what I am saying, there is huge stored energy in the Solar system also and it is spread up to the edge. It is interacting with planets and in turn with Sun.  In other words it is working like trampoline cloth. The energy is working like a thread and binding both Sun and planets.  Here if any planet moves out of this trampoline cloth, it loses control of Sun energy and moves out and nothing can stop it until it reaches other solar system in the universe.  Similarly other planets entering our solar system, interacts with the predefined energy, if the gravity of the planet is weak, Sun energy pushes it to edges and if it strong, both interacts and a curvature is created.

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Psreddy