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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: timey on 05/06/2018 22:05:02

Title: FALSIFIABLE PREDICTION FOR A DOABLE EXPERIMENT?
Post by: timey on 05/06/2018 22:05:02
FALSIFIABLE PREDICTION FOR A DOABLE EXPERIMENT

A further test of General Relativity can be conducted by comparing clocks that are ONLY experiencing a change in gravity.

So far precision testing of GR with clocks has been conducted concerning change in height in the gravity potential, where the clock is, in addition to a change in gravity, also experiencing a change in centripetal speed and centrifugal force.

And precision testing of GR has also been conducted concerning a change in relative motion, where the clock is not experiencing a change in gravity.

In Febuary this year portable precision clocks were tested for the first time.

https://www.sciencealert.com/portable-atomic-clock-measures-gravity-first-time-relativistic-geodesy

It is my suggestion that these portable clocks should be placed in circumstance where ONLY a change of gravity is occurring, in order to confirm that General Relativity is indeed correct in assuming that an increase in gravity slows time down.

This could be conducted by placing a clock at 2 different locations at same longitude, and at same height above sea level, where there is known density difference in the geology of the locations, and thus compare how they tick.
This will constitute only a difference in gravity

Or - much more simply, just place a clock at one of the gravity wave experiments and record how the clock ticks differently when a gravity wave hits, as compared to how it ticks normally.
This will also constitute only a change in gravity.

General Relativity predicts that a clock that experiences only a change (increase) in gravity will tick slower.

My modification of General Relativity predicts that a clock that experiences only a change (increase) in gravity will tick faster.*

*The consequences of the remit of my modification are, of course, extremely far reaching*

Now that these precision clocks are portable, I daresay that they are going to be used to further test the tenets of General Relativity.

I have voiced my suggestion, and will say no more.
Title: Re: FALSIFIABLE PREDICTION FOR A DOABLE EXPERIMENT?
Post by: Bored chemist on 05/06/2018 23:41:39
I have voiced my suggestion, and will say no more.
That's an interesting assertion.
I'm fairly sure that the ensemble of clocks round the world already have to take local gravity into account.
I think the UK's are in Teddington which is near sea level. I believe that some of the best in the US are in Boulder Colorado which is at serious altitude.
In any event, there's no way they are all experiencing the same gravitational field.
If the"correction" for local g didn't work, they would know.
Title: Re: FALSIFIABLE PREDICTION FOR A DOABLE EXPERIMENT?
Post by: Colin2B on 06/06/2018 17:04:11
@timey
This seems a reasonable way to leave it at the moment. If the tests verify your prediction we can revisit your paper.
We would have to look carefully at the Shapiro delay because I did some back of packet calcs and they donít give the results you were looking for.
Title: Re: FALSIFIABLE PREDICTION FOR A DOABLE EXPERIMENT?
Post by: Thebox on 07/06/2018 14:31:33
FALSIFIABLE PREDICTION FOR A DOABLE EXPERIMENT

A further test of General Relativity can be conducted by comparing clocks that are ONLY experiencing a change in gravity.

So far precision testing of GR with clocks has been conducted concerning change in height in the gravity potential, where the clock is, in addition to a change in gravity, also experiencing a change in centripetal speed and centrifugal force.

And precision testing of GR has also been conducted concerning a change in relative motion, where the clock is not experiencing a change in gravity.

In Febuary this year portable precision clocks were tested for the first time.

https://www.sciencealert.com/portable-atomic-clock-measures-gravity-first-time-relativistic-geodesy

It is my suggestion that these portable clocks should be placed in circumstance where ONLY a change of gravity is occurring, in order to confirm that General Relativity is indeed correct in assuming that an increase in gravity slows time down.

This could be conducted by placing a clock at 2 different locations at same longitude, and at same height above sea level, where there is known density difference in the geology of the locations, and thus compare how they tick.
This will constitute only a difference in gravity

Or - much more simply, just place a clock at one of the gravity wave experiments and record how the clock ticks differently when a gravity wave hits, as compared to how it ticks normally.
This will also constitute only a change in gravity.

General Relativity predicts that a clock that experiences only a change (increase) in gravity will tick slower.

My modification of General Relativity predicts that a clock that experiences only a change (increase) in gravity will tick faster.*

*The consequences of the remit of my modification are, of course, extremely far reaching*

Now that these precision clocks are portable, I daresay that they are going to be used to further test the tenets of General Relativity.

I have voiced my suggestion, and will say no more.
A Caesium travelling West to East ''blue-shifts'' , A Caesium travelling East to West ''red-shifts''.

The curvature/circular  length contraction being directional relational to the Earths rotation and earth points.


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Just thought I would give you some thoughts to ponder over Timey.  I will step back out again now thanks.