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Title: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 23/11/2018 03:59:05
In the seas and oceans, only two types of waves are formed: these are wind waves and tidal waves created by the precession of the whirlpools.
Rossby, Kelvin, and Solitons waves are ordinary tidal waves created by the precession of whirlpools.
Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.0

Wind waves are generated by the force of the wind.
Tidal waves are generated by "tidal forces."
What force forms the Rossby, Kelvin, and Soliton waves?
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: The Spoon on 23/11/2018 07:28:53
No, tides really are not as has been pointed out many times previously. Why do you persist with posting the same nonsense?
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: Colin2B on 23/11/2018 08:27:40
Again you are showing that you have no understanding of different types of waves.
You cannot build a theory based on misinformation and if you are going to continue posting misinformation there is little point in discussing it.
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: Yusup Hizirov on 23/11/2018 09:04:10
Wind waves are generated by the force of the wind.
Tidal waves are generated by "tidal forces."
What force forms the Rossby, Kelvin, and Soliton waves?
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: opportunity on 23/11/2018 09:29:03
Wind is the result of heat differential.

Is that wrong?


Wind is a term of particles moving, and yes in a realm of something more fundamental to particle movement, heat.
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: The Spoon on 23/11/2018 13:05:10
Tides are the result of the rotation of the earth and the whirlpools.
No they are not. Stop propagating this crap.
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves
Post by: opportunity on 23/11/2018 13:20:25
The planet rotates daily.

I'm worried that could change care of big tech right?
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: Colin2B on 23/11/2018 15:24:50
The planet rotates daily.

I'm worried that could change care of big tech right?
1. Are you seriously worried that human activity could stop the earth rotating???
2. How is that relevant to this thread?
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: mad aetherist on 23/11/2018 22:22:57
Wind waves are generated by the force of the wind.
Tidal waves are generated by "tidal forces."
What force forms the Rossby, Kelvin, and Soliton waves?
I am glad u asked. It made me look at wiki for these, & it appears that all waves are due to a force called mathematics (just jesting).
I reckon that if a wave involves something with mass then the force involves inertia (the truth is that there is no such  thing as mass, mass is due to inertia).
Mass can be said to be due to the acceleration of the inflow of aether into mass where the aether is annihilated. Conversely inertia can be said to be due to the acceleration of mass the acceleration being resisted by aether (aether doesnt resist uniform velocity but resists a change of velocity).
Strictly speaking aether having no mass is subquantum & thusly aether cannot provide a resistance force but merely transmits force to-from nearby quantum objects which do have mass, the transmission being a reverberation of pulses with a speed of at least 20 billion c (Van Flandern).

If the waves involve photons or electromagnetics (photaenos) then the waves might or might not involve forces & inertia (this might depend on how u define mass & inertia in a 300,000 kmps environment). Photons & photaenos are a micro process of the aether involving micro vibration or micro spin or something, progressing at c.
But progressing at less than c due to photaeno-drag if near mass or if near other photons or if near other em fields. Gravitational fields do not affect c because they do not affect photaeno-drag -- however the nearness of mass does affect photaeno-drag (strictly speaking) -- photaeno-drag being due to photaeno congestion, the photaenos fight for the micro-use of the available aetherons (gravity being a macro-use of aetherons)(ie a bulk flow rather than a vibration etc).
Photons & photaenos have mass & are thusly quantum, ie everything we see & feel has mass, however i dont know whether one can talk of inertia being involved in waves involving processes moving at c (praps sometimes yes).

So, the forces involved in all waves are due to inertia, either macro-inertia involving objects, or micro-inertia involving light (photons), or another kind of micro-inertia involving em radiation (photaenos).
Title: Re: What are Rossby waves?
Post by: Colin2B on 25/11/2018 08:18:37
I am glad u asked. It made me look at wiki for these, & it appears that all waves .............So, the forces involved in all waves are due to inertia, either macro-inertia involving objects, or micro-inertia involving light (photons), or another kind of micro-inertia involving em radiation (photinos).
Well, this is a very long ‘explanation’, but it doesn’t answer the question.

The OP is asking:
In the seas and oceans, only two types of waves are formed: these are wind waves and tidal waves created by the precession of the whirlpools.
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Tidal waves are generated by "tidal forces."
What force forms the Rossby, Kelvin, and Soliton waves?
Putting aside his error that only 2 types of wave are formed - wind and tide - he is asking what actual ie measurable forces are responsible for these specific wave types.
The answer is that Rossby waves in water are wind driven, Kelvin waves are caused by Coriolis force and a barrier/interface eg coastline, and Soliton waves can have a variety of causes eg bow waves, impulse waves etc.