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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: opportunity on 27/11/2018 12:29:19

Title: best ability to perceive: what is that, is it great?
Post by: opportunity on 27/11/2018 12:29:19
Bacteria, do they perceive? What do they perceive?
Fish, do they perceive, what do they perceive and how far?
Dogs.....do dogs look at the stars, are they aware of the stars?
Monkeys....they're not worried about comet showers.....

So what makes us "great" as humans?
Knowing our nature?
Imagine trying to be great without knowing our natural situation?


What do we perceive around us as humans relevant to us, our natural state of survival, food, shelter, that thing?

We do that.
We perceive.

Where's the astro-boy jump humanity has developed in going for the stars, and why is it there, that astro-boy jump? Are humans a species that dreams too much in trying to hit an imagined better thing compared with plain sight?


A big undertone with these comments is "why just don't we think we are separate to the animal kingdom"? Better than, right? Like we can fly off and do without it....


Ok, as the Gods we presume to be, designing light lenses to contrive how we can plan events using associated sciences to exist elsewhere, "how did we get to be god in the Darwinian process?"


The new theory here is asking "are we expending everything here just to get somewhere else"?

Are we looking for a planet that can handle our "toxic tech" stuff, all this consumerism that the planet "cannot" sustain....at least in the next 20 years? Otherwise, what?
Title: Re: best ability to perceive: what is that, is it great?
Post by: opportunity on 27/11/2018 12:53:38
We've gone through a massive thought process as a species on how our reality works, without a doubt. The question is, "are we using that massive expansion of thought process to contain what we have or use what we have to get elsewhere?" And thus really, is the thought process we've used in determining our reference in reality compatible with where we are or have we been convinced to get out of here using that thought process?
Title: Re: best ability to perceive: what is that, is it great?
Post by: opportunity on 27/11/2018 13:24:20
I think our best ability of being aware is two fold; on the one hand we realise our status here on Earth and do the right thing, on the other hand we can move elsewhere and throw ourselves into our calculated unknowns. It's a great choice.


If we can't calculate things here properly though, what's the chances of getting that right elsewhere using the sciences we have?


What am I missing?

Title: Re: best ability to perceive: what is that, is it great?
Post by: opportunity on 27/11/2018 14:33:41
(I'll do a 4th post....damn....from the initial)

What are we missing?

People who go else where are never going to help this planet, ever. Think about that.


Is going to Mars helping this planet? No. How can it?


Is finding exotic material on other planets helping this planet the way we have evolved on this planet?

Fill me in on the dream, people. What's the deal? What have I missed?
Title: Re: best ability to perceive: what is that, is it great?
Post by: opportunity on 27/11/2018 15:04:55
Is this inspirational?:


This is MTV, but why? Why is MTV into science like science should already be?
Title: Re: best ability to perceive: what is that, is it great?
Post by: Bored chemist on 27/11/2018 19:00:08
What am I missing?
The difference between a discussion site and a blog.
Title: Re: best ability to perceive: what is that, is it great?
Post by: evan_au on 27/11/2018 21:43:58
Quote from: OP
What do they perceive?
There is even a word for it: umwelt, representing the set of sensed environmental inputs that can affect the behavior of a person or animal.

Rodney Brooks even has a robotic version of it:
https://after-on.com/episodes/023