The Naked Scientists
  • Login
  • Register
  • Podcasts
      • The Naked Scientists
      • eLife
      • Naked Genetics
      • Naked Astronomy
      • In short
      • Naked Neuroscience
      • Ask! The Naked Scientists
      • Question of the Week
      • Archive
      • Video
      • SUBSCRIBE to our Podcasts
  • Articles
      • Science News
      • Features
      • Interviews
      • Answers to Science Questions
  • Get Naked
      • Donate
      • Do an Experiment
      • Science Forum
      • Ask a Question
  • About
      • Meet the team
      • Our Sponsors
      • Site Map
      • Contact us

User menu

  • Login
  • Register
  • Home
  • Help
  • Search
  • Tags
  • Member Map
  • Recent Topics
  • Login
  • Register
  1. Naked Science Forum
  2. Profile of Wolfhart Willimczik
  3. Show Posts
  4. Messages
  • Profile Info
    • Summary
    • Show Stats
    • Show Posts
      • Messages
      • Topics
      • Attachments
      • Thanked Posts
      • Posts Thanked By User
    • Show User Topics
      • User Created
      • User Participated In

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

  • Messages
  • Topics
  • Attachments
  • Thanked Posts
  • Posts Thanked By User

Messages - Wolfhart Willimczik

Pages: [1] 2
1
Technology / Re: Is this "Ultra deep hydroelectric/geothermal power plant" the future?
« on: 16/10/2016 15:02:27 »
Quote from: evan_au on 16/10/2016 09:54:35
Quote from: Wolfhart Willimczik
At a maximal deepness of about 20 km
I understand that the typical temperature rise with depth is about 25C per km.
So as you say, a very deep tunnel is needed to obtain high temperatures for electricity generation (ie expensive).

So it is usually more economical to find locations where there is a magma body at shallower depths, so the thermal gradient is greater (eg Iceland or New Zealand).

Thank you for your replay. I will try to answer everything. 20 km is indeed the worst case scenario. I choose this to show that every country on earth can get a strong and cheap energy source – to avoid political tensions as occur with oil.
I think in most cases are 10 km good enough. The simple rule is: One has to dig until it is hot enough. Some places are better – some worse.



Quote
Then the steam rises up in the sloped tunnel as in a chimney, cools down, condensate to water and starts the entire process again.
The amount of energy you can extract from a heat source (like geothermal energy) is determined by the difference in temperature of the heat source and a cold sink.   -right
Quote from: evan_au on 16/10/2016 09:54:35
Shallower rocks start off at a lower temperature than deep rocks. But rocks have fairly poor thermal conductivity, so as soon as you try and put heat into them, they heat up; when the temperature matches the heat source, you generate no more power.
           - It is more efficient to have your cold sink on the surface - eg evaporation towers or the ocean
There is practical a cooling tower (10 km high) with a heat exchanger on the surface. Do you see?
To enlarge the surface of the hot rocks many smaller tunnels and Fracking is employed as it is made already. Don’t forget the water has already at 10 km 1000 bar – free of charge! This opens up all the cracks in the rocks. (Today are used about only 100 bar)

Quote
runs down again a long pipe and feeds first the water turbines again
In theory, Electricity output really doesn't matter where you put your generators - on the surface or deep underground  right
Quote from: evan_au on 16/10/2016 09:54:35
But operating costs are radically different between the surface and deep underground.
          - At elevated temperatures and dripping water deep underground, the generators will always be breaking down
          - the electrical conductors will be arcing over
          - Engineers and Technicians can't easily reach the equipment to service it, because the access tunnel is full of hot water.
          - It's much better to put the active equipment on the surface, where it can be air-cooled, and accessible for maintenance
This is a great thing that electricity don’t loose power up or down, but the steam looses energy.
You are perhaps an engineer and you want everything on the surface – understandable, but there are great disadvantages also.
In Scientific America there is a strong argument against deep geothermic power plants:
„…This looses at least a third of the available power.”
For efficient power generation, you need several hundred degrees C of temperature difference. up to 600 or 800 degrees C is good.
Ergo, the turbines must be there where the hot steam is.
There are not many workers (intranauts) down and the control station is on the surface, but a second one down there in case the one on the surface is bombed or the like.
I would like also a second tunnel for the intranauts, the Gottard has actually 2 tunnels.
Down there the machinery has the same climate as on the surface – or better. In south Africa a 5 km deep shaft is cooled with ice – 15 t per hour. I see even better ways. Think on the free water pressure of 1000 bar. There is a lot, what you can do with it, for instance build a huge cooling system…

Do you know that in Germany there are protestors on the fence to geothermal power stations?
The operating company would love it, if everything could disappear on the surface  and only a cable comes out of the earth – even if it cost money.

2
Technology / Is this "Ultra deep hydroelectric/geothermal power plant" the future?
« on: 16/10/2016 04:59:33 »
Hi all together,
I am taking the liberty to present you my newest invention.
"Ultra deep hydroelectric/geothermal power plant"
https://hardballsite.wordpress.com/

ABSTRACT

This invention consists mainly of a long sloped tunnel, a deep hydroelectric/geothermal power plant and hot rocks transforming water into steam. Advanced tunnelling machines are able to reach lengths and depths never possible before with the old drilling method.
The drop height of the water for the hydroelectric power plan is for instance over 10 km and the gained water pressure over 1000bar feeding special high pressure water turbines or big hydraulic water motors driving again generators. After passing the water turbines the water is pressed with a rest pressure of about 250bar into hot rocks generating high pressure overheated steam for steam turbines in a range of gig watts. Then the steam rises up in the sloped tunnel as in a chimney, cools down, condensate to water and starts the entire process again. That’s all.
This circulation for generating electrical energy deep under ground is sustainable, even during an ice age with a minimum of human intervention. It is most environmentally friendly and can be build in any country making them more independent from oil.

Referring to FIG 1, there is shown a schematic cross section of the entire creation, but the drawing is not true to scale.
There is a 50 km long tunnel 1 like the Gotthard tunnel, but with a slope of 30°.
At a maximal deepness of about 20 km – depending on the local temperature – is a power plant with many turbines in horizontal tunnels 2 and 3. Even deeper is a smaller branch 4 of the main tunnel made by remote controlled tunnel machines. The region 13 of the pores hot rocks is un-cooled over 800° C , but will get cooler if pressure water is injected through the pipe 14 and an array of nozzles 9. The hot pressurized steam is collected in the lower portion of the tunnels 1 and 4. A heavy cover 19 separates the hot steam from the rest of the tunnels. Water will fill up a portion of the tunnel over the cover. This helps to lock the cover down against hot steam of about 200bar pressure. At a thickness of 2 km water would be a balance. There is a pipe connecting both deep sees for spill over. All 3 water bodies have the same level. To lower the water level there is an extra pump 24 to press the water into the hot pressurized region back in the circulation. This pump runs only if needed. The condense water from above has enough pressure to penetrate the hot rocks even with the detour over the water turbines 8.
The power plant can go on generating electricity only with the water in the own deep sees. If the condensation in the long tunnel is complete, no water from above is necessary any more.
The process is very simple. Firstly clean water from a river 6 is getting through a screen 5 and runs without any pump through an about 50 km long pipe 7 gaining gravitational pressure of about 2000bar at a deepness of 20 km feeding the high pressure water turbines 8 or water hydraulic motors (Wolfhart Principle). With a rest pressure of about 250bar the water is running through the pipe 14 and is injected with nozzles 9 into hot rocks 13 where the water is changed into steam and collected under the cover 19. A pipe 18 feeds the steam turbines 12 with about 170bar at 580° C - each generating about 250 MW electricity like the SST900 from Siemens. They are 11 m wide and fit in the tunnels. They drive down on a rack railway very slowly. Good brakes are essential, otherwise the heavy load will run down in the hot rocks and never seen again.
The workers or intranauts respectively must work in the beginning under 2bar pressure and in a hot environment. They look like astronauts in their cooling suits. They must be brought slowly back to the surface like divers from a 20 m water depth or they stay in the deep “hotels” for days. There are cooled areas with normal pressure in the horizontal tunnels, but there will be a steamy and wet ride back home on the rack trail in cabins. To stop the steam production would mean to shut down the steam turbines. Therefore, a second tunnel could be made or one tunnel will be divided in sections for water, steam and people.
After passing the steam turbines the steam rises up in the tunnel and cools down. At last it will condense in a heat exchange system 10 close under the surface of the earth 11. The condense water will be collected and runs down again a long pipe and feeds first the water turbines again and then it is changed into steam again. In the best-case scenario no water from the river is necessary any more. It is a closed sustainable circulation as in nature. The deep tunnel has it’s own weather system. There are no big pumps necessary.
Not 100% of the water can be recaptured under the heat exchanger 10, but in different heights other water collecting stations can be installed. For instance the water from a 10 km height runs down in an extra pipe and enters an extra turbine still running with 1000bar instead with 2000bar static pressure.
The air pressure down there is about 2bar – like in a tire of a car or 20 Meter under Water. Therefore, strong hermetic doors 17 close the horizontal tunnels up. There is only a small tunnel connecting both for the intranauts going around the sloped tunnel. It could be made also only one horizontal tunnel, but 2 are better for redundancy.  A comfortable climate is made behind these doors. Temperature and pressure are lowered. The electrical power cables are placed inside the cool water pipes for cooling purposes in the hot regions. All walls are cooled by fresh water in pipes 16 from above. A small see 15 holds fluctuations in temperature down. There is even a kind of hotel “Deep View” 20 for intranauts – contrary to astronauts - with a view of the bright illuminated small see and another “hotel” called “hot rock” 21. It is also a shelter for the workers in an emergency with all live supporting things. It can be extra hermetic closed. For redundancy every important installation is doubled. In time most work is done by robots or remotely.
If the tunnelling machine is driven by water hydraulic motors and everything is totally water-cooled it can drill in hot layers – even under water. The tunnelling machines 22 and 23 remain on the grounds of the tunnels and go further if needed and still running.
The predictions are made after about 100 years experience with this technology. It will work already at much lower deepness, but not that efficient.
The simplest way would be to let the water run down permanently and let the steam come up to the power station on the surface of the earth as it is done in smaller versions without tunnelling. Some heat loss will occur for the steam in the wide long tunnel. For injecting the water in the hot rocks there is no water pump necessary, because the tunnel brings the low air pressure to the rocks below. There is building up a low-pressure zone in the rocks surrounding the tunnel or shaft.


3
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 01/05/2013 20:46:57 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/05/2013 18:09:24
Did you patent it?
What do you think?
I did not only patent it, I gave it to the Fraunhofer Gesellschaft, the most famous organisation to support inventors, because I was afraid the secret police will be stronger. You may read all details here: (if you have a good translation program)
http://wolfhartindustries.com/a6a2.htm
http://wolfhartindustries.com/a7a.htm

My patent had no effect whatsoever, except it cost money. The organization destroying progress was and is much stronger. How it works you can see on a document from the BLKA (new Gestapo, SSD, Stasi).
Here you have even the name “Wagner” who invented a scientific strategy to destroy scientific information and how to fight against scientists. It seems nobody don’t know that such a strong organization even exist.

"Die Bekämpfung der imperialistischen Ost- und DDR-Forschung und ihrer Einrichtungen in der BRD", Doktorarbeit an der juristischen Hochschule Potsdam von Dr. jur. Hans-Peter Wagner, geb.19.09.1940, Hauptmann des SSD (Staatssicherheitsdienst der ehemaligen "DDR") und Dr. jur. Dietrich Erwin, Major, 18.11.32, JHS, GVS MfS 160 - 50/74 I/II, magna, 31.05.74.

"The fight against the imperialist West and East German research and its facilities in Germany", PhD thesis at the Law University of Potsdam, Dr. jur. Hans-Peter Wagner, geb.19.09.1940, Captain of the SSD (State Security Service of the former "DDR") and Dr. jur. Erwin Dietrich, Major, 18:11:32, JHS, GVS Stasi 160 - 50/74 I / II, magna, 31/05/74.

4
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 01/05/2013 17:58:49 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/05/2013 14:50:15
Oh come on!
What I wrote was "There are many such institutions. Newspaper articles and archives, this website and others like it; the patent offices; schools, universities and even TV quiz shows."
You can do better than that.

I can, but it seems nobody else.

5
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 01/05/2013 14:46:28 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/05/2013 10:26:12
Quote from: Wolfhart Willimczik on 30/04/2013 00:29:34
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/04/2013 20:59:43
Newspapers keep archives.
If it is not on the market it is lost!
If that is true then the answer to the question "Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge? " is obvious- the market doesn't care about everything- only profitable things.

There are many such institutions. Newspaper articles and archives, this website and others like it; the patent offices; schools, universities and even TV quiz shows.

And where do you store this pump - in which uni or in which TV quiz show?

 

All corporations was forbidden to build any new things I invented. One corporation manufactured against this ban and was destroyed. There is nothing left from this pump. The SSD erased it completely.

This is all what is left of this revolutionary pump

6
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 30/04/2013 14:39:58 »
Quote from: cheryl j on 30/04/2013 03:55:56
If civilization collapses tomorrow the big problem will more likely be that none of us really knows how to feed, clothe or shelter ourselves anymore, and will be almost as helpless as children.

This is a good point. We have already forgotten the most simple things. I tried it by myself ones to survive outside for a while without anything civilization provided. I could not catch a single fish with my hands and was going on the end again in a store to buy food. I studied nuclear physics but on the end I had to admit that nobody did teach me something useful. The first knowledge of earliest mankind should be collected - if still possible - and saved also.
The Egyptians build pyramids to remember them. We should build a pyramid of knowledge...

7
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 30/04/2013 00:29:34 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/04/2013 20:59:43
Newspapers keep archives.
If it is not on the market it is lost!

8
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 29/04/2013 00:58:12 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/04/2013 20:21:51

And, if it could do what you say, how come it wasn't publicised?

It was a sensation in newspapers and won the highest possible price and was forgotten few years later.
That is the reality.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/04/2013 20:21:51
Do you see why I have doubts that this thing could do what you say?

That is the difference between us, you have doubts, lack of knowledge and you are counter productive, I have knowledge and try to do something good.

9
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 28/04/2013 19:10:40 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/04/2013 17:52:03

If there was a good translation program I'd want it not just "saved" but widely used.
However, if there was such a program, how well would it compete with Bing's or Google's translator?
Would it now be redundant?
I see you will never grasp what I said. You are an american - you don't need a translation program.
witchpen is not a simple translation program like everywhere for dummies; it is a writing program for scientists, writers etc in another language what stays and learns with the writer his entire live...It adapts to the writer...you will never grasp it. It is getting better after every use. After a few years one could write in another language like it is your own.
I remember as I came to America and could not speak english I could immediately make phone calls, conversations with this program etc.
This program was not made by a language professor or software engineer, but by a physicist!
This should tell you something. (But probably not.)
It is nothing for you.
Do you know what any translation program is making? Nonsense! If not it would be easy to publish my book in US.
Fact is we loose permanent things of real value and nobody cares.

I could bring endless samples, but even this is total useless.

10
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 28/04/2013 17:28:43 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/04/2013 13:14:25
"Why are you against it to save witchpen?"
I'm not. I just don't believe it exists.
and due to your believe, what is based on a lack of knowledge, you would decide not to save it for the future if you would be one making the selecting process.
This shows exactly my point - we have to save everything what somebody want to save.
You did not even pot this word in Google, because you would has find for instance:

"Witchpen und "Witchpen mal 5" waren intelligente, sehr frühe PC Applikationen für MS-DOS von Hannes Keller, ("Hannes Keller Witch Systems Inc"), dem Schweizer Computerpionier. Seine Programme gehörten zu den ersten mit automatischer Rechtschreibekorrektur und WYSIWYG. "Witchpen" war ab Februar 1983 und "Witchpen mal 5" ab 1988 erhältli...
Gefunden auf http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchpen"
Not even wikipedia could suppress it.
There are over 700 results, but no program any more available.
1.   Witchpen – Wikipedia
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchpen

o   
o   
o   
Witchpen und "Witchpen mal 5" waren intelligente, sehr frühe PC Applikationen für MS-DOS von Hannes Keller, ("Hannes Keller Witch Systems Inc"), dem ...
2.   Biografie - Hannes Keller
www.hanneskeller.ch/index.php?template=1biografie

o   
o   
Zehn Jahre vor Microsoft brachte Keller die automatische Tippfehlerkorrektur auf den Markt (Witchpen, Right und Ways). VOBIS hat drei Millionen PC's mit...
Sie haben diese Seite am 24.04.13 besucht.
3.   Witchpen - Enzyklopädie
www.enzyklo.de/Begriff/Witchpen

o   
o   
Witchpen Witchpen und "Witchpen mal 5" waren intelligente, sehr frühe PC Applikationen für MS-DOS von Hannes Keller, ("Hannes Keller Witch Systems Inc"), ...
Sie haben diese Seite am 24.04.13 besucht.
4.   Keller, Hannes: Witchpen mal 5 - vier Bände komplett im Schuber ...
www.booklooker.de/Bücher/Keller+Witchpen-mal.../A01iqvJN01ZZt

o   
o   
09.12.2012 – Keller, Hannes: Witchpen mal 5 - vier Bände komplett im Schuber – gebraucht kaufen bei booklooker – jetzt online bestellen - A01iqvJN01ZZt.
5.   Sendungsarchiv - Folge 101 vom 24.03.2008 - ComputerClub 2
www.cczwei.de/index.php?id=issuearchive&issueid=133

o   
o   
o   
24.03.2008 – Zehn Jahre vor Microsoft brachte Keller die automatische Tippfehlerkorrektur auf den Markt (Witchpen, Right und Ways). VOBIS hat drei...
6.   [PDF]
„Hexengriffel" für Juristen? — Das ... - JurPC
www.jurpc.de/jurpc/show?id=iur_1988_0000_0010_0019...

o   
o   
Textverarbeitungsprogramm „Witchpen. Michael Zurek. Das von HannesKeller gegründete Schweizer Soft- ware-Haus „Witch-Systems" hat mitWITCHPEN ein ...
7.   Übersetzung von Witchpen nach Deutsch - Babylon
uebersetzung.babylon.com › Deutsch Übersetzung

o   
o   
Witchpen und "Witchpen mal 5" waren intelligente, sehr frühe PC Applikationen für MS-DOS von Hannes Keller, ("Hannes Keller Witch Systems Inc"), dem ...
8.   Witchpen - Babylon 9 Translation Software and Dictionary Tool
www.babylon.com/definition/Witchpen/German

o   
o   
Witchpen und "Witchpen mal 5" waren intelligente, sehr frühe PC Applikationen für MS-DOS von Hannes Keller, ("Hannes Keller Witch Systems Inc"), dem ...
9.   WitchPen unter DOS - de.comp.os.msdos | Google Groups
groups.google.at/.../82f6e307d9a56320%3Fq%3D%2522Hannes%2BKe...

o   
o   
19.08.2000 - 2 Beiträge - 1 Autor
WitchPen ist ein Korrekturprogramm für Textverarbeitungen unter DOS von Hannes Keller, dem genialen Schweizer, der zeitweise mit VOBIS ...
10.   Hannes Keller und Witch - Info zur Person - Personensuche Yasni.de
www.yasni.de/hannes+keller/person+information/witch

o   
Info zu Hannes Keller und Witch: Witchpen, Systems AG, 1992, Programm, Thomas, Ways for Windows, Highscreen, Zürich, Autorenkollektiv, ...


But, lets get clear: if you don't believe me a word, why are you still writing here?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/04/2013 13:14:25
But, lets be clear.
All materials are compressible.
We are not in a physics forum discussing effects of higher orders.
Are you mocking me again?
In technical terms liquids are used in every hydraulic, because they are not compressible.
But lets drop it you will never understand what is going on in your refrigerator.

11
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 27/04/2013 18:30:10 »
Quote from: CliffordK on 26/04/2013 20:48:10

Yes, there are some things that I regret having lost in life like the original soft-copy of my thesis.  But, many things have been passed up due to just becoming obsolete. 

There are, of course DOS windows in all versions of Windows, but not with perfect compatibility.

But, I'd say at this point, it is time to just try something new.  There are many new translators including a few generally good online ones.

http://babblefish.com/language/free-language-translation/free-language-translators/
http://translate.google.com/

And, of course, there are also many commercial packages.


I searched everywhere there is nothing any more like witchpen, which has nothing to do with spell checking or translation you know.
You can write sentences in your own or another language or mixed up and the program make it automatically right. You write word for word and the program lets you write as long you know it, if not you can write it in your first language and the word comes automatically in the other one. But this is only the start. This program is learning with you as you learn the other language.
After so many years I would be able to write my book in english today.
There is nothing out there any more even close to this. It is a shame that nobody feels responsible to save the good things.
I have it in Window XP, but there is no real DOS any more. With some tricks I could run witchpen, but many functions are different or not there any more. A software specialist could make a lot of money if he make it running...I have all the disks.
But this all is not the point. The point is to save everything.
Why are you against it to save witchpen?
I must be out of this world if I am the only one who wants to save such things.
No state will do anything as long nobody wants it – or only 1 of 300 000 000.

Now to the selection process: the bored chemist showed clearly why it is never possible.
Only because he don’t know that a gas is compressible and a fluid not he would never save this prototype – same with the other sample. I know man. Most man with power judge out of a lack of knowledge not by knowledge.
If the selection process never work what do you propose to save for later?

12
Technology / Re: Why is there no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge?
« on: 27/04/2013 04:39:46 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/04/2013 01:43:17
"It is the only suitable pump which is able to pump fluid and gas simultaneously."
But gases are fluids, so that makes no sense.
Indeed your statement make no sense.
Are you mocking me?

Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/04/2013 01:43:17
There are pumps that can deal with mixtures of solids, liquids and gases.
all not suitable for cooling; otherwise show me one.
Why are everywhere still used compressors - not fluid pumps?

Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/04/2013 01:43:17
Incidentally, fridges pump gases so the point would be moot anyway. The high pressure gas is subsequently condensed to a liquid.
and changes again in a gas by expanding and cooling down, then is compressed again etc.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/04/2013 01:43:17
"Do you think there is nothing out there, if you don’t see it in your newspaper?"
I see, in my newspaper (and elsewhere) that there are institutions whose role is to ensure that knowledge is not lost.
show me the things I showed you here in this intitutions and you win.
If there is all we need - why are you here reading and writing?

13
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 26/04/2013 21:37:22 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/04/2013 18:23:16
If you know that the Greeks knew stuff before the Christian church got started then someone must have kept that knowledge (in some way) so it is not true that "The church had the monopoly for saving knowledge and their distribution. "

Did you not realise that?

Also, war-time developments gave us lots of things like microwaves and computers which are not designed to kill people.

When you say "Now show me please such a picture in any uni, library etc except here."
do you mean a copy of the same picture or do you mean early spark chamber pictures in general?
In any event, the point is moot.
Those pictures still exist.
The masses could not write, had no papyrus and not even a sturdy building to save something. Only monks could write and could save something in cloisters. Therefore they had a priory the monopoly.
Did you not realize that?
There where only very few others giving us only a glimpse what there probably was. What is all passed on by the peripatetikers ?
How much is  known from the Mayas. An entire civilization disappeared together with all the knowledge.
As already said in another post; as the troops from Rome burned the library in Alexandria almost the entire knowledge of an entire country was lost. (You should read also the other posts.)

I have to correct myself again: …except all things with the sole purpose to kill each other and things helping to kill each other.
Everybody know:  “War is the father of all things.” 
I tried to steer your attention to things which are not clear visible, which are not in magazines or newspapers or in TV, but I see I am still not successful. I don’t understand your resistance. Who or what are you defending? The war, the mishaps or what?
What are you thinking?
Do you think there is nothing out there, if you don’t see it in your newspaper?
Or do you think everything outside the mainstream is not worth to be saved? Please explain.


I mean any picture of a trace of a single low energy alpha particle.   
The few pictures here and in my website will disappear.                                                                                                                                             

Perhaps a better sample will help:
Since about 30 years exist a better pump for all kinds of refrigerators, but in every supermarket etc rattling still obsolete compressors.
You find no information in the mainstream that such a better pump even exist.
It is the only suitable pump which is able to pump fluid and gas simultaneously. And energy recovery would also be possible!
What do you want to do with this knowledge?


14
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 25/04/2013 21:37:19 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/04/2013 20:14:28

Well, perhaps you would like to tell us how many people were killed by portable radios, microwave ovens, Satellite TVs etc.
Or were you talking bollocks when you said "I forgot to say…except everything to kill each other."?
for you I correct myself again:… except everything with the sole purpose to kill each other.
Satisfied? (Like in court I have to watch for every word with you.)

Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/04/2013 20:14:28
if you really had a translation program that worked perfectly in some early version of windows, but not the later versions, that's a very simple problem to solve. Don't upgrade. Frankly, I don't think you had a good translator.
Yes I did it with one – even 2 laptops, but both disintegrated…(It was DOS 3.5 !)
But this was not the point. The point was even the best products get lost for mankind – even in this information age. There is no university, no library, no corporation – no humans which are committed to do something against this loss. Or can you tell me where it is available today? You could do a great service to everybody who needs English and German.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/04/2013 20:14:28
"The church had the monopoly for saving knowledge and their distribution. "
What a pity that the church chose to suppress knowledge (ask Galileo)
I “ask” also Giordano Bruno, who was burned on a stick by the power of the church, only because he said this what the Greeks already had known 1000 years earlier and what was suppressed by the church. Now – after more than 300 years – the church admitted its wrong doing and rehabilitated at least Galileo.
You know the church saved only one book – the bible.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/04/2013 20:14:28
Anyway, there are lots of institutions whose job is to ensure that information is not forgotten. they get called schools and universities and libraries (not to mention the web) so your original question is deeply flawed.

If you indeed are that naïv thinking “they” take care of it that nothing is forgotten I have to show you some samples I am sure of:
In 1966 in Pirna near Dresden a nuclear physicist made the first pictures from the trace of an alpha particle with a new spark chamber. This was a sensation in the scientific world.
Now show me please such a picture in any uni, library etc except here.

15
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 25/04/2013 17:43:55 »
Quote from: daveshorts on 23/04/2013 17:03:56
There are things like archive.org and the big libraries are doing it to some extent - I think the British Library just got some responsibilities in that direction.

Thank you for the tip.
I tested archive.org. I could not find scientific content, but there are books etc.
It is a start, but there is not yet a real search engine.

But I could find my erased stuff.
(There is an ongoing secret war; I put something on the internet - others erase it.)

I could find again what was erased against my will: (very interesting; I could have made my case in court with it):

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_del_Wolfhart 
my engine is still running in archive.org
http://web.archive.org/web/20080121031307/http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_del_Wolfhart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_vane_pump_principle_%28System_Willimczik%29
another erased invention from me, but without pictures (this is only 1 sample of more)

http://www.mechanicalengineering.tv/InventorWillimczik 
but no videos

http://saturn.spaceports.com/~wolfhart/buch.htm
but not all pictures
http://web.archive.org/web/20090625133240/http://saturn.spaceports.com/~wolfhart/buch.htm

my destroyed website at hubs.com is there
http://web.archive.org/web/20050212131437/http://wolfhart.wwwhubs.com/

16
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 25/04/2013 15:56:43 »
Quote from: graham.d on 25/04/2013 09:32:43
The point I was making there was that, snip.... the companies know that the big winners in ant patent war is usually just the lawyers.

Many "learned" papers are similarly worthless
You are right to imply that it is sometimes difficult to tell a good idea from a bad one but I have to say that if you have a situation where only 1 in 1000 is good (say) then I, for one, would like to see a good deal of pre-filtering. Life is too short.

I know all this - even more, but we should not despair.
It is now forbidden for me to get a patent in the German patent office. You don't know the influence of the secret service like SSD/Stasi/KGB which now infiltrated all levels of society like a big mafia.
Ergo there is nobody there to make the filtering, if 2 man with pistols standing behind him...
The secret is in the search engine. You exclude the words "anti-gravity"; "water car" etc...
And you see only the good one under the 1000 bad ones. This is the only way I see.
It did already happen that my name was erased from Wikipedia as somebody wrote something about one invention of mine. My name was even erased or ignored at patents and even in papers describing my invention, or put another name on. All done by secret man you never see.  We can not ignore this, because these man fight not against nonsense, but against the best ideas, which get lost in this secret filtering process. You see it everywhere; a very few bad man determine our way to go.
Google, youtube make it (still) right - filtering out no ideas. Everybody has to filter out by himself what he wants.

But this is only my experience...
If you find a better way I will listening.

Wikipedia was also a good idea to save knowledge - today it is the greatest instrument to suppress knowledge, because no admin is ask of his past by the SSD/Stasi. I know the old officers are that happy that they have now such powerful instrument in hand to tell the world what they want and to erase what they want. I can give you samples...

17
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 24/04/2013 23:20:53 »
Quote from: graham.d on 24/04/2013 15:18:22
It's not my field but to me your inventions are impressive and seem quite original. I am sorry to hear how you were either ignored or exploited by a corrupt and inefficient regime. To go back to your question, I think it is true that many ideas and inventions have been lost in the past (the destruction of the library at Alexandria must be a key event here) but I think the world is getting better at (at least) preserving ideas. I think the problem now is often how to recognise the good ideas from the vast numbers of bad ones (or simply ones that are not as good). ...

Why do you see a problem? I see a golden information age.
We are not any more in the stone age where it took hours to put few letters in stone.
(My left thumb still hurts, because I hit it that often. Now you know how old I am.)
The patent office take everything you pay for on paper. Nobody must prove that it works.
The internet has practical unlimited space.
The solution is today that easy. There is no judgment, no censorship any more. Everybody can upload any idea. (Probably with a fee.) And everybody can search this data containing all the knowledge of mankind in 100 or in 1000 years.
History shows there is no way to separate the “good” from the “bad” ideas. History is full of misjudgments by “experts”.  You would need God to tell you what is good and what is bad.
And another thing; for a scientists it is also a result if something not works. I would search for this if I am going to develop something, because I save time and money not to go in the wrong direction. A lot of nonsense in this database, what is not avoidable, will not hurt.
The internet is already full of pseudo science like Wikipedia. It will not hurt as long it is not presented as the absolute truce and scientists all banned to write there correcting mistakes as it is now the case. Such developments are very dangerously. Google is right showing everything without judgment. If Google would save the cache of every site forever it would be already something.

18
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 24/04/2013 14:25:35 »
Quote from: CliffordK on 24/04/2013 04:54:36

You could say 1000 years of progress was lost, but not just to "forgetting", but rather to a lack of a forward push.

We now have the capability to "remember" everything that anybody ever writes, from first grade to the end of their life.  But, I'm not entirely certain that I would like everything that I've written to be remembered. 

Certainly many things just get forgotten, in part because nobody thinks to look for them. 

Did I say only by “forgetting”? This would be a mistake. I meant – mostly by wars etc.

You are right if you say: Society…”did not foster innovation”.
I lived in such regime in East-Germany and all inventions I made are lost.
After I showed one in TV I was expelled out of the academy of science and jailed.
See

But what nobody know – not even believe – is the fact that the SSD/Stasi/KGB prevent still today the use of any of my inventions. There is only my linear generator used in Australia, because there are no communists in leading positions…
See:
http://www.wolfhartindustries.com/otherinv.htm
And this is only from one scientist; perhaps more than 100 000 are out there, not seen by anybody.
All these inventions proved to be better than what is on the market, but they will soon all disappear totally, because there is not a single website where you can upload important information for the future. Everything must be reinvented – mostly 100 years or more later.
Of course we must not remember everything written, said or sung. Only who wants can upload something to the website “timecapsule.com” – if it would exist.
Oops – I just invented this name and it exist already, but it is not exactly what I mean.
Perhaps Google will do it. 

19
New Theories / Re: Sleep and dream in a scientific view
« on: 24/04/2013 13:26:49 »
In many things he was right, but in regard of the comparison of our brain with a computer we should give Freud the benefit of a doubt, because there where no computers around in his time.

20
Technology / Re: Why is there not no institution on earth preventing loss of scientific knowledge
« on: 24/04/2013 04:21:30 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/04/2013 19:21:38
OK, first cite some evidence for the 1000 year assertion.
Next, perhaps you should look at the effects of war on scientific discovery.
The cold war gave us space technology.
WWII gave us radar miniaturised electronics, microwaves and a lot of other things too.
It's true that the Stasi destroyed scientific.
You might want to consider how well that worked out for them.


It is certainly my fault if everybody thinks in a direction diametral to that what I meant.
I forgot to say…except everything to kill each other. I know that wars gave as many things, what we can use in peace times. Others get lost. Getting lost means per definition we have no record of it. This are the things I mean, but you want that I show you in black and weiß.
It starts already here writing in English. I had the perfect translation program for Windows 3.5 – not any more, because it wont run in the new windows. It was developed by a physicist in Switzerland and called “witchpen”. Now there is no program coming even close. It depended all on one man! Most people don’t’ even know that there was even a program you could write some words in German, some words in English – just how you know it and the program made it right during writing! And it learned new words automatically without doing anything…You only write what you just know. Now I have to stop at every word O don’t know and look it up…weiß - .
There are 100 000 other cases of loss – just now under our eyes, which we can’t see.
Hundred years later it will be reinvented like the concrete, which the old Romans developed. Then there was no concrete or beton any more on earth. It had to be reinvented. There is no record of the knowledge. We only know it in this case, because the coliseum is still standing in Rom and everybody can touch it. How many other things are lost which are not that visible? Nobody know it. We can only say it is more than everybody can imagine.
Only the few things we do know shed a dim light on mankind’s saving of knowledge.
The old Greek had a good understanding of the elements, the earth and the solar system, but it was hard to put it all in stone.
The church had the monopoly for saving knowledge and their distribution. To make it comfortable for everybody knowledge was simplified - as today in Wikipedia - to a point that the earth was again a disc in the middle of everything.
It took over 1000 years that science could strive again. We lost over 1000 years on science.
And today it is worse. The Stasi destroyed everything not war important.
Of course the communists must go down with this method, (I helped) but what about the scientific findings of all the scientists behind the wall? I know personnel some deserving a Nobel price, but ending up in a madhouse etc. I by myself posted desperately my work from1966, because it was never published and will soon disappear together with me.
Many things, which will be considered very useful in 50 or 100 years, are ignored – on the end destroyed today.
Since nobody is able to decide what is worth to be saved and what not, we have to save safe every scientific finding somewhere and somehow. That’s what I am talking about, all the things which get never published. (How long will this forum be saved?)

Pages: [1] 2
  • SMF 2.0.15 | SMF © 2017, Simple Machines
    Privacy Policy
    SMFAds for Free Forums
  • Naked Science Forum ©

Page created in 0.088 seconds with 65 queries.

  • Podcasts
  • Articles
  • Get Naked
  • About
  • Contact us
  • Advertise
  • Privacy Policy
  • Subscribe to newsletter
  • We love feedback

Follow us

cambridge_logo_footer.png

©The Naked Scientists® 2000–2017 | The Naked Scientists® and Naked Science® are registered trademarks created by Dr Chris Smith. Information presented on this website is the opinion of the individual contributors and does not reflect the general views of the administrators, editors, moderators, sponsors, Cambridge University or the public at large.