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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 15/06/2015 01:08:58 »
For those of you taking regular (flushing niacin) how many milligrams are you taking at a time and how many times per day? 

I usually take a minimum of 500 and a max of 1000 at a time.  I like the flushing so it doesn't bother me. :)

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 15/06/2015 01:07:26 »
Thanks for sharing this info Nathan123. I'm going to try this.

Quote from: nathan123 on 09/01/2015 08:55:52
First of all my apology to the forum for not posting the 15 minute exercise, I have used. The intention behind this is I thought, whether can I able to add any add-ons to that exercise and I tried many and finally today comes to a conclusion that 15 minute of yoga mentioned in earlier version to be posed and I am posting the. The same is below as follows.
a)   For the first five minutes – pls do the body lossening exercises i.e. to legs, shoulders, hands, neck, - search in google you find many………
b)   For next five minutes – Pls do the dynamic warmup exercises.
The above two steps are the preppatroy steps for the yoga posute.
c)   Now pls do the yoga posture Ardha Matsyendrasana (Only Three rounds – Pls not do more than this, as you are not practicing under the trainer). It may take five minutes.  Pls do not this exercise in full stomach. Your stomach should be empty. Otherwise there may be some other problems. Suggested timings is morning and in the evening before food.  Also, person with knee injury, spinal cord problems should not perform this exercise as it would severe the problem.
Compare the POIS at the beginning of this exercise and now. If you find decrease in the POIS symptoms, my POIS is equal to your POIS and God has finally helped us….We won. 
Update on me:
a)   In my last post, I mentioned that presently my POIS attached reduced to 30% as I am practicing on hour yoga exercise daily. Now, I find even slight reduction can say 25% attack and this attack is tolerable and this 15 minutes.
b)   You may know, from last three years, I tried so many experiments and in yoga I tried one. That is to have Sex after that one hour exercise ( I compare taking of Nicain and have sex and accordingly I tried this).  So, out of past 15 days, 6 times I had Sex & big O immediately after the one hour yoga exercise and the results are amazing. After big O, now there is no POIS, it is 0%, further I am experiencing opposite to POIS i.e. relaxation of mind and peace can say, it is POST ORGASMIC HAPPINESS SYNDROME (not a syndrome). Yes, if I do, O after one hour exercise, I am experimenting, full of joy, happiness, its like heaven to me…. But, if I had O not after exercise, then again that 25% POIS symptoms. My yoga thereapist told this 25% would come to 0% in just two months.
Logic behind my solution:
c)   As explained earlier, it was the problem in nervous system. Now because of yoga, my nervous system is strengthening. So, presently, I am having three solutions.
a)   15 minutes exercise to recover from POIS attack if I had O in the night
b)   One hour yoga to reduce the attack from 25% to 0% in next few months
c)   Had O immediately after yoga (i.e. like niacin experiment) to enjoy 0% POIS & especially happiness.
Way forward:
a)   At presently, I shared only the macro level of the solution which I got. If any one of you find reduction is POIS symtoms, and if this theory is apply to all, then I am ready to share full one hour yoga exercise (containing many i.e. loosening exercise, dynamic exercise, pranayama, various types of breathing, yoga posture, relaxation technique). Waiting for your reply.

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 15/06/2015 01:00:17 »
EGGS.   Definitely not a cure for POIS. I eat plenty of eggs regularly and it hasn't made a difference. Glad it's worked for you.


Quote from: Bulbo on 13/03/2015 12:47:46
Hello everyone
I am happy to tell u that there may be a way to cure pois and that it is not irreversible. I was always desperate to escape from pois hell. I think i may have found a solution. I was reading all the posts in NSF forum and i came across a member named Gcrisp, who developed POIS after 50 yrs when he was asked to take statins. Fortunately he was able to recover from pois after stopping statins and also after eating eggs daily  for a few months. Since i hv tried every other solutions and nothing worked, i started to eat eggs daily, i ate 2 eggs daily for a month and then i started to eat 3 eggs daily. I have been eating 3 eggs daily for 2 months 28 days. My pois was a type where i recover from tiredness within 2 days, but the pois hangover never lifts, it is always there. After eating eggs for 1 and half month my pois duration reduced to 3 days, then with each week pois duration reduced by 6 hours. Now my pois lasts for 1 day 13 hrs, i really hope as days go pois duration would get reduced even further.
I felt that i should share this information with u , becuase if i was in your place i would be desperate even for a little help.
It takes atleast a month to feel benefits of eating eggs. I dont know about the quantity of eggs to eat daily, but i feel very good by eating 3 eggs daily.
Please do read Gcrisp post on NSF forum for more details.

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 15/06/2015 00:50:38 »
Nathan 123

After taking the antacid syrup, what is the next step to your "cure"


Quote from: nathan123 on 16/04/2015 19:05:01
Its about four months I not updated to the forum. As explained in earlier post in Jan month I was cured only 75% from POI's and I updated that I was expecting 100% cure in next two months from doing exercise. However it took me me four months for 100% cure from pois and now I am fully 200% Pois free person. There was no response for the technique I shared to the forum. No problem. However I wanto tell guys, spent lakhs of bucks to find out what was the reason for my pois and sharing the forum how I cured from the POIs. In India as I shared around year ago i with my doctor started identifying people with symptoms of POis through local media and found many people whobr not aware of their POI's and taking treatment under different illnesses. Actually we r not having pois
 It is different illness and it is triggering for orgasm. I will tell dimple procedure for the forum and it may cost u only 2$ and may be 2 min of time to check whether my theory is correct. Just by one antacid syrup used for gastritis and pls have one spoon of syrup with water after food in Pois period and see within 1 hour u will find reduction of pois by 25%. I will tell how POI's will reduce in one spoon of antacid syrup once u respond and also I can share in detail what was happened to me and what I done in last six months for compute cure from Pois. This forum helped me in 2011 to understand my POI's and finally I found out my POI's reason. I want other members to be cured asap. Pls respond to my above which cost u only 2$.

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 15/06/2015 00:44:31 »
How did you cure your POIS?


Quote from: 4everfogged on 25/04/2015 13:15:08
Interesting quote on Reddit

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benvil45 1 point 2 hours ago
"Hi, Yes my POIS is cured. It was 100% down to digestive issues. Both SIBO and yeast infection. "
This is what he told me in 2014, maybe things have changed. I personally don't have have any specific thought of what causes POIS, there's probably no set in stone cause for everyone imo.
I just thought I'd comment on something that, from the info I've got from Kurtosis is wrong, maybe things have changed and I'd be very interested in seeing that information.
"Did you know that poor methylation limits your body's ability to remove toxins?"
Fully aware.

http://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/302j7v/discussion_general_pois_discussion_thread_if/

Hope to hear more details

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 15/06/2015 00:32:57 »
I've created a Facebook page for POIS as I'm trying to help find out if there are particular genetic variables that could help explain POIS as well as treat it.  Please join and share.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/mthfrpois/

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 27/02/2015 06:03:31 »
How many of you have low testosterone levels? Ignore the conventional reference ranges, and check your levels against what is considered normal for your age. 
Check out this link. http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/01/16/normal-testosterone-levels/

I'm curious to know if most or all of you have total testosterone level of 400 or lower. 

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 09/01/2015 02:12:17 »
Liberte:

Exact same thing as you..  I've been orgasm free for about 10 days now and I do notice myself feeling better.  But what a sucky way to live.  I do take an anti-depressant, and it helps in general, but not sure if it helps with POIS.  Do you get a tightness in your abdomen after orgasm?


Quote from: Liberte on 06/01/2015 14:23:04
I believe that I suffer from this illness. After orgasm I experience the following symptoms for 1-4 days: foggy head, difficulty concentrating, lack of motivation, extreme fatigue, negative thoughts, irritability, social isolation, tongue tied, depersonalization, low self esteem, feelings of worthlessness, social anxiety, weak muscles, slow thinking, inability to make decisions. I am 32 and I first started experiencing this about 5 years ago. It's possible that I have experienced it for longer but had not made the connection, I am not sure. However definitely when I was younger I did not experience this.

It seems that the duration of the effects relates to the intensity of the orgasm and how many orgasms I have, and my overall level of fitness at the time. However, I am always "off" for at least a minimum of 12 hours or so. I find that masturbation without orgasm also results in some but not all of the same effects, mostly I still feel the social anxiety / isolation and depersonalization, but not so much the lack of energy.

I have been struggling for years with a porn addiction and I believed this was the source of my problem. However now I am finding even after long periods without porn, sex with a person whom I like and would like to pursue a relationship, I still get these effects and they are debilitating to my ability to build this relationship.

I am feeling at a loss and like I will never have a partner because of this. I also believe it may eventually cause me major problems in my job.

For me the socialization effects are by far the worst part. Being around others and feeling completely unable to connect with them is a private hell. The only thing that keeps me sane is knowing that it will pass eventually and I will feel normal again.

The longest I went without orgasm was 2 months. It was an amazing time, I built some core friendships and got a promotion during this period. Usually I can only last a week or two so I feel like I am in a perpetual cycle of recovery and relapse.

I am feeling despondent right now and at a loss. What is the point of all this effort put into life, into working to be successful etc., if there is no hope of sharing it with anyone? How could I expect to have a partner who is okay with not having sex, and would I even want that for myself? Can I handle living in a relationship with regular sex and feeling these symptoms a good percentage of the time? It feels unbearable and I don't believe such a relationship could last, let alone all the other effects.

I'm looking for advice on how to proceed. Should I see a doctor? What should I ask them? Should I have my hormone/mineral levels checked? Is there a FAQ for this? Has anyone successfully recovered from this?

Thanks!

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 09/01/2015 02:08:50 »
Is anyone familiar with the drug Revatio (sildenafil)?  It's alot cheaper than Levitra, Cialis, etc...  I'm not sure it's marketed as an ED drug, but it's in the same class.   Thoughts? 

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS) & MTHFR- NEW Facebook Group
« on: 19/11/2014 00:53:58 »
Hope you join this new group. 

I've created a new group for people suffering from POIS and who are familiar with MTHFR.  Hoping to gather data to see if there are particular genetic mutations that may be causing our suffering. You can find it here. It's new.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/mthfrpois/

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 10/09/2014 21:11:40 »
Started Mucuna Pruriens on Monday and have noticed zero benefit.  Very bummed about that.   I probably have one of the genetic mutations that have an affect on dopamine in my brain. No idea what to do, where to go to deal with this.

:(

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 06/09/2014 00:53:25 »
Just got my Prolactin and Progesterone labs back and they both fall within the reference range.   This leads me to believe that Prolactin is not the key variable in POIS.  Granted, I haven't checked my dopamine/other neurotransmitter levels yet.  Was really hoping that Prolactin was the key. :(

MY KEY SYMPTOMS POIS AND SITUATIONS
Morning or daytime orgasms result in remainder of day exhaustion/irritability (sleep during daytime)
Flat affect
Dark Circles
Irritability/Anger
Depression
Occasional swollen abdomen
Pain in back/neck
Social Isolation
Limited to no libido
etc.

I will not have intercourse in the morning nor any other sexual activity due to these symptoms.  All sex related activities are at night, shortly before bed due to negative symptoms. 

POIS symptoms last for at least 4/5 days or are continuous if I do not abstain from orgasm.   

Possible help has come from P5P dose of 150mg (3x 50mg) and at least 100mg of zinc per day.
Waiting on Mucuna Pruriens delivery Monday. Hope that it provides some benefit.

Has anyone been tested for low dopamine and found that boosting dopamine has lessened the POIS symptoms?

Thanks everyone!  Never give up. We can figure this out!!!


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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 02/09/2014 22:45:39 »
Quote from: MrVat7 on 10/12/2013 11:16:48
Gbolduev should be banned for using abusive language in his earlier posts & posting nonsense arguments to increase his number of posts.

I agree.  People are having enough difficulties in their lives to then be harassed in a forum which should be a safe place.  Online bullies are just real life cowards. 

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS) MTHFR and other snp
« on: 02/09/2014 19:09:51 »
For those of you familiar with MTHFR and other genetic mutations, have any of you figured out which mutations might be responsible for POIS?

I have a wide mix of snps that are undoubtedly causing alot of my problems, but haven't really found an expert to help me consolidate the data. 

Any thoughts would be awesome.

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 02/09/2014 19:06:22 »
Quote from: demografx on 16/08/2014 02:03:21
<former Moderator visiting periodically>


Quote from: Defsync on 04/08/2014 05:40:41
Hello peoples.

I have returned with a small bit of useful info.

I have found a new regiment thats really helped me stave off unwanted nocturnal emissions.

I consume one Monster Energy Java drink a day. Thats it. Now how does this work? Not sure why this particular energy drink is so potent, but it seems to noticeably "desensitize" one as well as lower the sexual urge. I used to use dream control and take a muscle relaxer etc etc. For whatever reason though drinkin one of those Monster Java energy drinks a day has made avoiding NE's so much easier. Im not gonna even begin to dissect the reason, I just know that it works fairly well. Also relieves minor aches and pains, this particular brand of energy drink, so might be helpful for those who have O'ed as well? Anyways, fight the good fight. Im out. Peace.

Monster drinks have 400% more caffeine than same size Starbucks.

Many of the people facing POIS in all likelihood also have adrenal fatigue.  I have adrenal fatigue.  When I've had caffeine (like an ice mocha, anything coffee related or chocolate) I get ridiculous levels of fatigue and sweat alot more.  I would highly advise many of you to NOT consume caffeine if you find that it causes problems for you.   For those who get benefit from it, congrats, but I would just proceed with caution.  It likely is a poor short term solution for many.

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 02/09/2014 18:59:41 »
Quote from: desperate man on 01/09/2014 02:06:15
Hi ozmoses and welcome!

You are right on time. I drifted my focus on B6 as well after reading that nearly all amino acids require B6. Common myth is that B6 deficiency equals serotonin deficiency. In reality B6 is needed for both dopamine and serotonin. Remember that when your prolactin shoots up your dopamine will fall. Vice versa. Been part of Pyroluria group, but haven't experimented with high doses of B6 before. All symptoms match. Over a year ago I had a health test done by a dubious practitioner and results came back with deficiency of B6 that was the most significant of all my deficiencies. No other vitamin came up besides B6.  This vitamin is so essential that it's needed for 19 out of 20 amino acids in your body and you will not find the exact same list symptoms of it's deficiency on different websites. Guaranteed. Deficiency will mimic all kinds of things you can imagine. Just one particular amino acid (too low/too high levels) can f*** you up for good then there's the neuotransmitter imbalance and psychological issues. Then there's the physical issues resulting from the chemical imbalance. Meanwhile you're using up more and more B6 because you are in a constant state of stress. It's a viscious cycle. I'm planning to do 10000% RDA of B6 and titrate it down from there. Will let you know how it goes.
Wishing you success with Pyrrole disorder! It's a b**** I know this from a personal point of view.

Significance of B6: https://www.e-tyh.com/cscart/Health_Library_PDFs/BewareofB6-2011_L.pdf

edit: Did I mention the growth hormone deficiency (which does cause hypoglycemia by the way) that will result from melatonin deficiency due to lack of B6?  [;)]
One of the main features of B6 deficiency is "seborrhoeic dermatitis-like eruption" which I've been dealing with for a long time now. Here's a pic of what this is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seborrhoeic_dermatitis#mediaviewer/File:Seborrhoeic_dermatitis_highres.jpg

It's such a relief to know that there's another person suffering with both Pyroluria and POIS. Don't get me wrong! I felt so alone in this sh1t.  [:-'(] PTSD brings on Pyroluria. This happens usually in adolescent times. I know that since my PTSD I stopped remembering my dreams (which is one of the characteristics of this disorder). Hope you get better!

Thanks for the reply.  Did you actually get tested for pyroluria? I did and have begun a zinc, b6, p5p regimen, but also higher doses of Omega 3s amongst a boat load of other supps.  Just literally went in to get my prolactin and progesterone levels tested this morning along with casein and gluten since I seem to have some annoying food allergies/intolerances as well. Fingers crossed on results.

If my prolactin levels are high enough, I'm going to find a doctor who will prescribe CABERGOLINE for me.  Has anyone here tried it and found benefit?  I'll try to go through this forum and find info on that, but dang, there are an enormous number of posts. 

Apparently, SSRIs are one of the biggest causes of high prolactin levels in men.  I was taking celexa for the past 10 years and then finally decided that I had enough.  The withdrawals from getting off that evil med were the worst I've ever experienced in my life.  BIG PHARMA and the FDA should be prosecuted for allowing such damaging medications to be on the market.  Evil frackers. ;)

Anyways,  POIS is real and debilitating in a life altering way.. big way.  I may post on my issues just for the record one of these days. 

If I see any benefits from any protocol that I'm on, I will certainly spread the word.  No one should have to deal with this bulls*$t from something that is so normal and so enjoyable. Sex should not cause depression, extended fatigue, lack of motivation etc.  In our hypersexual society, it's hard to stop once you've started.  BTW, I've never been into porn so that hasn't been an issue. More the soft core stuff or simply lingerie/swimsuit model types.  Gotta leave a little to the imagination IMHO.  ;)  Anyways, signing off for now.  But checking in again soon.  LET'S ALL FIGURE THIS OUT AND ELIMINATE THIS POIS'ON FROM OUR LIVES!!!!!!!  HEEYAH

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 31/08/2014 17:27:25 »
Can anyone recommend a reputable lab where I can order a prolactin, progesterone and other relevant tests online?

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 31/08/2014 07:43:30 »
Here's a short, but useful summary of some natural prolactin inhibitor supplements.  I'm sure that some of you have tried a variety of these.  I'm going to check some of them out.  I do have pyroluria, so my b6/zinc intake needs to increase. 

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/prolactin-inhibitor.html/

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 31/08/2014 07:25:01 »
Quote from: fornicationDENIED2 on 10/06/2014 00:06:39
Quote from: MrVat7 on 01/06/2014 16:38:06
Poisers may have a sudden fall in dopamine after an orgasm...symptoms says.

Everyone gets a sudden decrease in dopamine thanks to the temporal increase in prolactin after ejaculation. When you really think about it, hyperprolactemia could in theory cause similar symptoms to POIS

Talking about prolactin, I managed to reduce it from 11.66 ng/mL to 4.03 ng/mL and I have experienced progress because  of this.I could say I am almost cured, there are still things I must do like updated thyroid bloodwork and see it that was fixed and some  insomnia  I get if I ejaculate at night which I can't explain yet, better than POIS but still...

fornication, that's great that your prolactin levels have dropped. It would be useful for you to share how you managed to do that. Thanks.

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New Theories / Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« on: 31/08/2014 06:46:22 »
I'm a newbie to this forum and was reading the older posts and decided to start reading the most recent ones.  I had read a paper/study that concluded that prolactin increase was the norm post orgasm and it occurred to me that perhaps many of us POISers may simply have a longer period during which prolactin is heightened in our systems. 

I have tried the flushing niacin, aspirin, antihistimine combinations with limited results.  If Mucuna is likely to drop prolactin levels, then it would be a good thing to try.  I wonder if taking it right before sexual activity and after would be of value.  Given any of the concerns you've expressed, perhaps starting with a low dose would be advisable.  Also, would Ashwaganda or Maca potentially have a prolactin inhibiting quality?   

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