I guess being a member of this site, I am biased, but I don't see that attitudes of science has reached the level of apathy that confusedhermit is concerned about. Of course I have no statistics to back me up
I think science has definitely changed and we live in a society where incredible breakthroughs in thinking by individuals such as Newton, Einstein etc. are not the way science moves forward. I think that because science is so integrated in everything we do and so many more people are working in research, the "breakthroughs" have fizzled down to very specific applications, and therefore the media doesn't really care as much.
I think science is taken for granted rather than shunned.
I'm concerned about William McCormick's attitude to what science is. To me, the wonderful thing about science is that it is completely open minded. The only limitation that a (true) scientific mind should apply to the world is based on what is observed. Science loves proving itself wrong, because you can never really prove a theory correct, you can only fail to disprove it. And if the observations don't match up with current theories, then BAM! Current theories are thrown out the door and new theories are proposed in their place.
I also like the whole concept of peer review which allows an individual's research to be cross-examined by the scientific community to ensure that it is robust enough to stand up.
So anyway William McCormack, ironically perhaps I think you're wrong. I think that science is not about what is right and what is wrong, but about finding the most accurate match to the observations. You need to keep an open mind to the fact that you may be wrong, and with enough evidence, be willing to change your mind.
Now I have something to bite on to. Ha-ha. My bark is worse then my bite.
You said science is open minded. Science is not open minded. Just like 2 + 2 must equal four, every second of every day, of our lives. Science must equal total and complete truth, to the bounds of infinity.
What is happening is that, real science is in the past. Today kids learn theories that are not real science. And yes to absorb those wrong theories you will need a very open mind. I personally watched them box and trash real science. The real space program. The government then bought and paid for theories that seemed a little like science, along with inflated expectations of what these theories would do for us. They backed the theories, with force, money, power, demotions, even threats of poverty.
After a couple generations, it almost seems like those theories must be the truth, because so many people could not be that screwed up. You don't have to believe me, but for me that is the only scientific answer.
The real world works just like Benjamin Franklin described it. He could fly a kite in a lightning storm, if only to prove the Royal science folk that their dare to fly a kite in an electrical storm, was mere childs play, if you understood electricity. Over 250 years later, you have half the world, some of the power companies, and most scientists, claiming that you cannot fly a kite in a lightning storm. There is no big deal to flying a kite in an electrical storm.
You should not be building electronic equipment, if you don't know you can fly a kite in a electrical storm. Many older consumers thought we had the protection of Benjamin Franklin's understanding of electricity, backing our products. Evidently we do not, or they would fix the wrong markings on our products, and get real science safely back in the hands of young experimenters.
As it is you cannot, safely experiment with electricity, unless you relabel the equipment yourself. It is almost unbelievable what has happened. What has been thrown away, will probably bring about Armageddon on earth. We had one more real shot, to turn civilization around while most understood, basic science. Today most have basic science wrong. Every second wasted now, is like slowly, cutting the last frail dried hemp ropes, keeping the earth from falling into a forever darkened abyss.
As far as others supplying me evidence, not a chance, when they start reciting what they remembered and learned from books, not understood, it falls apart in the real world. My circle of friends have already built the superior products, that the new theories promise, but will never deliver. I could pray to God that it was different or not true, but I would be wasting both of our time.
Our technology uncovered a past civilization, and they ended about where we are today. So think happy thoughts if you must. But I know where this is going.