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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 03/09/2011 14:01:58 »

I don't think that thoughts can trigger an allergy.

Yes and that's the whole point. Even if the thought itself activated some physiological processes resulting in an autoimmune response, it is clear, that this would happened during masturbation without ejaculating as well. But Dr. Waldinger claims, that masturbation without ejaculating does not bring POIS.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 03/09/2011 11:27:28 »

I get POIS from excitement all alone.
Different hypothesis :
- i'm allergic to my pre seminal fluid (that doesn't exclude the possibility of being allergic to my sperm)
- excitement trigger sperm mixing, that could be eliminated later in urine
- this is not an allergy

Well, take a look at this quote: “They didn’t feel ill when they masturbated without ejaculating…, but as soon as the semen came from the testes …they became ill, sometimes within a few minutes.”, which is exactly, what Dr. Waldinger said and what was paraphrased in various articles.

It is counterintuitive for me to think, that an isolated sexual fantasy or getting an arousal would cause allergic reaction rather than physical masturbation (which is induced by sexual desire) without ejaculation itself.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 01/09/2011 15:28:52 »

Hm, I am still asking why a previously known allergic reaction to semen in both men and women has never been connected with symptoms most of us experience, until now.

Does it mean other sufferers with reactions like itching, hives and even anaphylaxis experience different type of allergy than we do?

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 28/08/2011 22:21:46 »

I was refering to your implication that

Yes, that was meant with regard to that psychiatric examples, not POIS. Sorry, I have not replied to your former question yet, I simply lack my communicational abilities to express what I want now.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 28/08/2011 21:41:24 »

Incorrect and you know it!

No, I don't. I know many people with psychological/psychiatric problems, who have been taking various drugs and they are actually doing worse, fighting with side effects, new or worse problems, being emotionally numbed, just surviving. But to be objective, this is most likely a specific problem isolated in the sphere of psychiatry, not a medicine as a whole.

I am hinting at the fact, the psychiatry is the field, under which the typical profile of POIS sufferer's symptoms belongs best to.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 28/08/2011 19:51:34 »

Phrases like "little to no help" are purely opinion, and make unfounded implications of failure.

From the scientific point of view, there is the only solution involving psychopharmaceuticals or ECT, which, in fact, is nothing less than a further dumbing down your already dumbed brain, interpreted as a therapeutical effect.

And don't be misunderstood, I really like a "new direction" of XN and everything positive, its users are experiencing (I am going to order a package of it for myself).

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 28/08/2011 17:53:46 »

Well, no satisfactory explanation has been found, so it is quite obvious for me, it is mystical in the same sense such as schizophrenia or depression - scientists and doctors claim they know a lot, but in fact, they only offer many speculative approaches with little to no effective help to their patients.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 28/08/2011 14:52:53 »

Are you kidding, if I have one "O" on each of two days in a row, I'm practically ready for the hospital.

If there's anyone here that can have several "O"s per day, I don't think it's POIS that they have.

As far as I know, most people have no physical abnormalities capable of explaining such a variety of symptoms and no diagnostic criteria has been constitued to prove this mystical illness. The only certain thing disproving the suspicion is not to have post-orgasmic complications and probably nobody like this has joined the discussion yet.

And I am curious what reaching several orgasms in a row (even if the first one or two brings up problems) looks like in your case or in case of somebody who has experimented this way.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 27/08/2011 22:56:40 »

Has anybody here tried to masturbate several times in a row (i.e. 4 - 10 times in a few hours) and watched its effects or better - tried to masturbate as many times as possible per day and keep continuing in the following days?

Btw. an interesting article to read:
http://www.drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/MASTURBATION.htm

"Holding the mind in unhealthy thought patterns. This is a further problem with frequent masturbation in both men and women.  It is worse in women, in fact.  This problem simply means that stimulating the genital organs tends to cause a certain type of thinking and feeling that is generally harmful for a person.  Once in a while it is fine, but it is not healthful, overall, especially if it is a habit that one does daily or more often.  This applies to sexual relations also, along with pornography.
This is more complex topic that has to do with the type of energy that resides in the lower part of the body, as compared with the type of energies that reside in the upper part of one’s body.
The symptoms of this problem include difficulty concentrating, attention deficit or ADD, ADHD, irritability, superficiality in your thinking, lack of intelligence, lack of follow through ability, impaired school or work performance, and other difficulties in thinking clearly and forcefully."

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 07/07/2011 20:59:30 »

There is a phenomenon called poop-out, which has a lot to do with built-in tolerance. I think I had been doing quite well until I reached this phase, which was a few months after lowering my Venlafaxine dose from 300mg/day to 150mg. Then my psychiatrist started to change antidepressants (Sertraline/Bupropion/Moclobemidum - nothing really brightens up my condition) and I was having persistent constipation and noticing everything goes much worse, especially my memory/enthusiasm.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 07/07/2011 20:39:23 »

Does anyone know if the anti-depressant Prozac has any side effects in long term? Has anyone tried it?

I've written it earlier and added more info on POIS forum - I highly recommend not to take any psychotropic medication unless you are officially diagnosed as having endogenous depression or something similarily severe. I've been taking various Prozac-like antidepressants (SSRI/SNRI) for more than 3,5 years and things have slowly gotten worse, especially the cognitive problems. It has been over 8 months since the last dose and I am still suffering from hellish protracted withdrawal.

No memory (I mean NO memory), indifference & apathy, emotional numbness (inability to feel positive/negative emotions), problems with organizing and planning, impaired abstract thinking - I was only able to think in real time, straightforwardly, you are dulled, with bouts of spontaneous euphoria, everything seems to be useless and uninteresting, you just don't worry about anything, not to mention your deteriorated state of mind etc.

I believe neurochemical imbalances are involved in POIS and taking drugs causing more chemical imbalances is not a good way to follow.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 18/06/2011 19:42:28 »

Quite interesting reading:

http://yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting

http://yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts

http://yourbrainonporn.com/what-are-the-symptoms-of-excessive-porn-use

etc. (try to search the site)

Can you see the similarities in symptoms? This is not about porn, it is more likely about attitude, addiction and rewarding behaviour.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 18/06/2011 18:45:44 »

You've probably seen this, anyway, I'm posting it right now:

http://www.reuniting.info/the_wrong_masturbation_advice

http://www.reuniting.info/cowardly_lion_masturbating_too_much

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 15/05/2011 17:00:41 »

emi_b and others,

thank you for your replies. I will wait until my condition & mood stabilize. If THIS is the cause, I will probably feel much better in a few days or weeks of the absence of masturbation. I am also going to get an MRI scan to exclude more severe probabilities. If everything other is fine, I will consider contacting Prof. dr. Waldinger to get questionnaire and some recommendations how to treat myself (i.e. which type of local doctor visit to get proper tests, treatments like hyposensitization etc.).

emi_b: I've also taken various benzodiazepines, mostly during the worst days of my SSRI withdrawal. I am 100% sure that antidepressants worsened my cognition in a different way than probable POIS (SNRI/SSRI caused quite scary memory impairment and changes in my perception/personality).

Kind Regards

J.

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New Theories / Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

« on: 15/05/2011 11:18:32 »

Hello,

I am so glad, I've found this forum. First, let me introduce myself - I am 25yr old male, living in the Czech Republic, Europe. I've been experiencing these strange, indefinable symptoms since - as far as I know - the age of 12 - 13.

What I am talking about? Well, these appear to be (and definitely are) quite obscure, as if they were implicated by some serious underlying neurological illness:

1.) fluctuating set of symptoms, which is well known under the term of "brain fog" or "cognitive dysfunction" (impaired ability to think clearly, impaired problem solving & visualizing, impaired simple math & logical skills, impaired abstract thinking, speech & written text understanding, difficulty with speech and articulation itself, with remembering and comprehending, with finding the right word, memory, organizing and concentration, general sluggishness etc.)

2.) fatigue or exhaustion, which are manifested most of the time by sleepiness and daytime sleeping, tiredness and pasivity, inability to mobilize my energy (this is not the case of physical fatigue, weak arms and legs and so on)

3.) nervousness, anxiety and depressive mood (something like dysphoric state of mind, lack of a well-being feeling, negativism, worrying, social fear and social awkwardness leading to isolation, low self-esteem, I'm feeling detached etc.) - these are most likely a consequence of the brain fog symptoms and mental fatigue

4.) occasional nerve & muscle pain + numbness throught the whole body (this is really mild and I don't find it much important)

Because all of this, I was forced to find help. In the year 2006 I visited my GP with the fear of having Diabetes - negative. I obtained a recommendation to psychotherapeutic clinic, because of "unresolved problems". Well, I've started visiting a psychotherapeutist (and psychiatrist) back in Semptember '06 and therefore, I had to accept, it is all in my mind, I am mentally ill etc. I've passed through various types theraphies including the group, gestalt and dynamic ones. I was taking various types of antidepressants including SSRI, SNRI and IMAO, which made things much worse (so I coldturkeyed them in November '10 and since then I've still been experiencing some protracted withdrawal symptoms, although I feel way better now).

During that time, the effect of psychotherapeutic intervention + antidepressants was minimal to none. Nearly nothing has changed! I've been living in this despair for so many years, supposing it is normal. Some friends of mine and even parents suspect, I am a hypochondriac! But I know, this is not the truth. There is an objective proof of my fluctuating intellectual abilities, which cannot be explain by simple "bad day" or "being unlucky":

In April '09 I passed a psychometric examination, including Raven's Standard Progressive Matrices (IQ test) with a score between 115-120 (SD15).
In September '09 I passed an official Mensa test, which consists of Raven's Advanced Progressive Matrices (same IQ test, harder difficulty) with a score of 152 (SD15).

Being in constant despair, I've started a reserarch of possible causes - with the help of google. Lupus, MS, Adrenal fatigue, Hypothyroidism, brain lesions, nutritional deficiency, Hypoglycemia, Celiac disease, Lyme, bizzare ones like Chronic fatigue syndome or Fibromyalgia, Leaky gut syndrome and POIS. POIS is the term, I've noticed about a month ago for the first time. I thought it is nonsensual and foolish!

Yesterday, I took a much more serious look at this problematic, which is the reason, I write this message. I've been masturbating since the age of 7 or 8, sometimes excessively, sometimes more naturally, but there were no 4 - 5 days, I wouldn't do that.

The last time I masturbated? Yesterday afternoon.
Average daily number of masturbations (orgasms)? I masturbate 1 - 3 times per day or two.

My only wish is to feel fine, with all my potentials activated. Unfortunately, I am jailed in this misery for most of the time. I've decided to make an attempt - I'll try not to masturbate for several days or weeks to find out, if this is the possible cause.


I would really appriciate some tips or advices from all of you experiencing similar symptoms and states of mind.

Thank you in advance.

J.